| 00:00.29 | Bikerdan | Word doc huh. Nice |
| 00:00.44 | Bikerdan | Was it all URL encoded too? |
| 00:02.04 | Utah_Dave | Nope. Just pasted right into Word. Luckily it's actually got whitespace and is human readable. |
| 00:02.30 | Utah_Dave | Could be worse. |
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| 00:13.18 | herlo | Utah_Dave: just send it back to them and tell them you couldn't read it because it is in some unknown format to Libre Office Writer :) |
| 00:13.39 | herlo | tell them that's the new standard in your department |
| 00:13.42 | herlo | :) |
| 00:13.52 | Utah_Dave | Unfortuately (or fortunately) Libre Office Writer opened it up no problem. |
| 00:14.02 | eggyknap | $weather 84637 |
| 00:14.02 | raifbot | 3eggyknap - 0,2current weather for 84637 - Clear 40f / 4c Humidity: 60% Wind: N at 0 mph |
| 00:14.15 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 00:14.38 | herlo | Utah_Dave: you can lie, can't you? :P |
| 00:14.55 | herlo | $weather 60603 |
| 00:14.56 | raifbot | 3herlo - 0,2current weather for 60603 - Overcast 44f / 7c Humidity: 73% Wind: S at 4 mph |
| 00:15.07 | herlo | ooh, warmer here in Chicago :) |
| 00:15.26 | Utah_Dave | ha ha |
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| 04:45.26 | nickdc | Anyone have a good database solution for realtime data? Datapoints are sent by hundreds/thousands of users every second and also datapoints are averaged every second for realtime graph views. |
| 04:52.01 | nickdc | yea data will be kept around in case anyone wants to see the graph at any point in time |
| 04:52.11 | nickdc | logistical nightmare :( |
| 04:53.18 | eggyknap | So I'd use something like Esper or Storm for the realtime average stuff (and anything else shown in realtime) and store everything in PostgreSLQ. |
| 04:53.28 | eggyknap | er, "PostgreSQL" |
| 04:58.18 | nickdc | interesting. I'll look into Storm and what it can do for us. I was planning on using MongoDB for scalability purposes, havn't used postgresql. Always used MySQL what advantages does it have? |
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| 15:55.42 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 15:55.42 | raifbot | whacks drf23 with the cluebat. |
| 15:55.50 | dezertol | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150341663482792&set=a.191866542791.157042.20800882791&type=1&theater |
| 15:55.53 | dezertol | hehe |
| 15:59.40 | TuxToaster | heh |
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| 16:28.01 | dezertol | http://www.futureme.org/ Interesting Idea.. |
| 16:28.14 | dezertol | what would you tell yourself you know |
| 16:29.01 | mahelious | dear futureme: please send stock tips. love, past me |
| 16:29.50 | dezertol | lol |
| 16:30.49 | dezertol | if you where to send your 1 year future self an email.. it's interesting to think what you'd send.. |
| 16:31.01 | dezertol | like.. you better not still be working at xyz.. |
| 16:31.08 | dezertol | or.. are you married yet |
| 16:31.10 | dezertol | lol |
| 16:31.35 | dezertol | just an interesting thought.. |
| 16:31.46 | Monnok | Well, i know pastme has proven to be a douchebag, I'd like to send a reply |
| 16:32.41 | dezertol | even something as simple as your thoughts about a project your deep into or something |
| 16:32.47 | dezertol | could be interesting.. |
| 16:33.07 | dezertol | the problems you may or may not be struggling with.. and being able to see them from the other side |
| 16:33.36 | dezertol | just and interesting thought... is all |
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| 16:39.37 | mahelious | futureme: I set the send date to 2021. If you get this, I lost the bet. |
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| 16:48.25 | macnewbold | hi all |
| 16:48.34 | macnewbold | did everyone get the meeting announcement on the uphpu list the other day? |
| 16:48.47 | macnewbold | there was some question about whether the mail list is working, and I am not sure |
| 16:49.35 | josephscott | macnewbold: I don't think it came through |
| 16:50.45 | josephscott | last one I see is dated Nov 19th |
| 16:50.52 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Utah PHP Users | uphpu.org | Meeting tomorrow: Justin Carmony on Blazing Data with Redis, 7pm @ C7 Bluffdale | Submit a talk proposal: http://www.phparch.com/2011/12/php-tek-call-for-papers-is-now-open/ |
| 16:51.16 | mahelious | ~carmony++ |
| 16:51.43 | mahelious | sadly ill be missing out, i already promised to go to a roller derby game. |
| 16:51.47 | macnewbold | d |
| 16:52.04 | mahelious | might make the after party though. same place as usual? |
| 16:52.06 | macnewbold | yikes! I'll check with our server admin about the mail list |
| 16:52.09 | macnewbold | mahelious: yep! |
| 16:52.13 | macnewbold | about 9ish usually |
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| 17:05.10 | josephscott | this could be bad http://m.rollingstone.com/entry/view/id/20260/pn/all/p/0/?KSID=19b21c32c51e0253c50271dc58c57b32 |
| 17:14.03 | mgeary | josephscott: agreed. however, it's not like present and past administrations haven't *already* detained citizens without due process |
| 17:14.50 | josephscott | yep, and attempt to make that legal by codifying it would be even worse |
| 17:23.00 | macnewbold1 | non-mobile link: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/indefinite-detention-of-american-citizens-coming-soon-to-battlefield-u-s-a-20111209?stop_mobi=yes |
| 17:24.24 | josephscott | haha, for those that like to have the ads with the article ;-) |
| 17:28.01 | stderr- | *like to support the content producer they're getting content from |
| 17:28.07 | stderr- | (doesn't include adblock users) |
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| 17:50.48 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 17:50.48 | raifbot | Chuck Norris made a Happy Meal cry. |
| 17:55.26 | wps | sorry about the list being down |
| 18:06.55 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 18:06.55 | raifbot | One day a kid in school was asked a math question. He simply said "Chuck Norris" and the teacher said he was wrong. The teacher was never seen again. |
| 18:14.14 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:14.46 | TuxToaster | $8ball was the teacher wrong? |
| 18:14.47 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Ask again later. |
| 18:15.01 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 18:15.01 | raifbot | Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding. |
| 18:15.20 | Monnok | oh thats a new one for me |
| 18:16.10 | wps | looks like mailman and postfix didn't start up (or at least up correctly) |
| 18:17.36 | wps | here it comes!!! |
| 18:18.33 | TuxToaster | at least it can catch up |
| 18:19.50 | wps | sorry… bad metaphor |
| 18:20.00 | wps | is pretty crazy watching the mail log though |
| 18:20.39 | TuxToaster | was there seriously no mail through the end of November? |
| 18:20.48 | wps | no mail since the server was moved |
| 18:20.54 | wps | been at least two weeks |
| 18:21.03 | wps | surprised no one noticed until now :) |
| 18:21.24 | wps | 2.5 weeks of mail |
| 18:21.29 | TuxToaster | well we were discussing it the other day |
| 18:21.34 | wps | and considering that email post to the list has to go out to 400 people, that's a lot of mail |
| 18:21.39 | TuxToaster | but I thought there had been mail and it was just not archived |
| 18:22.09 | TuxToaster | but at least according to the archives now, there was no mail sent to the list from the move on Nov. 14th until Dec. 2nd |
| 18:22.54 | josephscott | I did notice, but couldn't find anyone who could fix it |
| 18:24.05 | TuxToaster | $lart mailman |
| 18:24.06 | raifbot | decapitates mailman conan the destroyer style. |
| 18:24.21 | TuxToaster | $lart postfix |
| 18:24.22 | raifbot | beats postfix severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken. |
| 18:24.25 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:24.39 | TuxToaster | was hoping for a kill-stlye lart, but that'll work |
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| 19:43.47 | dezertol | millionaire job creators are like unicorns they're impossible to find and don't exist |
| 19:43.55 | dezertol | -- harry reid |
| 19:48.15 | ninnypants | dezertol: you talking about the NPR article? |
| 19:49.13 | dezertol | just heard the audio |
| 19:49.17 | dezertol | lol what a tool |
| 19:50.02 | mgeary | do you really want to go there? |
| 19:50.29 | dezertol | lol that he's a tool or that he likens millionaire job creators to unicorns |
| 19:51.09 | mgeary | either way. I'm not necessarily a fanboi of Harry Reid, but i've got a lot more faith in him than i do Orrin Hatch |
| 19:51.34 | dezertol | I don't live in Utah.. so.. I don't know anything about Orrin Hatch |
| 19:51.38 | mgeary | but where's the evidence that further coddling of the super wealthy is someday going to create job growth? The super-wealthy have never had it so good |
| 19:51.44 | mgeary | never |
| 19:52.12 | mgeary | how is making things better for them going to suddenly produce amazing job growth, if that hasn't happened over the last 10 years? |
| 19:52.44 | dezertol | it's a moot argument |
| 19:52.58 | dezertol | if everyone had the same no one would have anything |
| 19:53.12 | mgeary | who's arguing for that? |
| 19:53.14 | dezertol | all classes have to exist for any of them to exist |
| 19:53.17 | mgeary | nice strawman there |
| 19:54.11 | dezertol | there is no doubt in my mind that most of the gov is currupted to one degree or another |
| 19:54.23 | dezertol | and.. the golden rule.. (them with the gold makes the rules) |
| 19:54.28 | ninnypants | I have to agree with mgeary I don't think many people are wanting everyone to be equal they just want a level playing field |
| 19:54.34 | dezertol | had really screwed up a lot of things |
| 19:54.53 | Nafai | how does the existence of classes even relate to the rich being viable or non-viable in the economy and job creation? |
| 19:54.55 | dezertol | how is the playing field not level |
| 19:55.09 | mahelious | level playing field? like a flat percentage tax perhaps? |
| 19:55.19 | mgeary | psh |
| 19:55.24 | dezertol | I'd be in favor of a flat tax |
| 19:55.28 | Nafai | dezertol: Do you really want us to start? |
| 19:55.45 | mgeary | a flat tax imposes a huge penalty on lower income households |
| 19:55.53 | dezertol | it's a flat tax |
| 19:55.54 | Nafai | I honestly will probably die because of the way our system is screwed up |
| 19:56.08 | dezertol | it would be the same for everyone.. I thought that's the point of a flat tax |
| 19:56.43 | mahelious | mgeary: im not sure I follow you. how does a flat tax penalize lower income households? |
| 19:56.46 | dezertol | not the only reason but it was one of the reasons I moved out of utah |
| 19:56.58 | mgeary | no. the real point of a flat tax is to delude the diminishing middle class that it's "fair" |
| 19:57.18 | dezertol | my state tax in az is like .4% or something really dumb |
| 19:57.20 | mgeary | mahelious: because lower income people spend a much much larger percentage of their income on surviving |
| 19:57.32 | ninnypants | dezertol: but money isn't truely the same for everyone think of someone who only makes 30,000 a year losing 15% of his income would be much harder for him than someone who makes 100,000 a year |
| 19:57.59 | dezertol | ya but that assumes that they're not capable of making more then 30k |
| 19:58.11 | dezertol | or that the guy making 100 is stuck at 100 |
| 19:58.16 | dezertol | money isn't a pie |
| 19:58.25 | dezertol | you can make as much as you want |
| 19:58.34 | dezertol | it's not "divied out" |
| 19:58.57 | ninnypants | I understand that but that doesn't change that losing 15% of that families 30,000 colud cause them to lose their house |
| 19:59.03 | TuxToaster | dezertol: correction. Money is a pie if you bake one and sell it. :P |
| 19:59.10 | TuxToaster | just sayin |
| 19:59.15 | dezertol | lol right |
| 19:59.58 | dezertol | I'm to much of an entrepreneur to just roll over and take a 30k a year salary and stay there my whole life |
| 20:00.09 | mgeary | look at the times we've had greatest economic/job growth, and look at how the wealthy were taxed. without a growing middle class, our economy is doomed to stagnate |
| 20:00.11 | mahelious | minimum wage is ... what, ~$8? $8 x 40hrs/wk * 48 working weeks in a year (assuming a very little time off for illness and personal needs) |
| 20:00.20 | dezertol | I've not made 30k or less sence I was like 18 |
| 20:00.49 | dezertol | minimum wage in san fran is just over 10 |
| 20:00.53 | mahelious | $15,360. so say everyone gets a $15,000 deduction, and then flat tax anything above that |
| 20:01.58 | dezertol | that wouldn't be a bad thing |
| 20:01.59 | dezertol | per say |
| 20:02.12 | ninnypants | dezertol: yes but what about someone like a teacher they go to school for years then make that much or not much more |
| 20:02.16 | mahelious | ive lived off of $12k before. it wasnt the easiest time ever, but i had a roof over my head and food on my plate. even if you taxed $15,000 at 15% that person would still be making a living |
| 20:02.30 | dezertol | the problem with the current system.. is people that a boat load of money just move it to where it can't be taxed |
| 20:02.56 | dezertol | just like water... flowing the path of least ristance .. money flows to where it will make the most other money |
| 20:03.39 | mgeary | experience shows that is not the case |
| 20:03.51 | mgeary | just like this myth that taxes are preventing companies from hiring |
| 20:03.52 | mahelious | dezertol: if that were true, the whole "millionaires create jobs" would actually hold water. which it does not |
| 20:03.53 | dezertol | I've heard of millionares buying hundreds of archers of land and plant 1 orange tree |
| 20:04.01 | dezertol | and writting off all the land as an organic farm |
| 20:04.03 | dezertol | lol |
| 20:04.32 | mahelious | money is like gravity, the greater the mass, the greater its ability to attract mass |
| 20:04.33 | dezertol | everyone I've worked for is in the millionar bracket or damn close |
| 20:04.53 | mgeary | i own a company, we have 9 people in the office, and i can tell you that how much taxes we pay doesn't even enter the equation when we're figuring out when/if we are going to create a new position |
| 20:05.40 | TuxToaster | mgeary: luckily that seems to be a common view |
| 20:05.48 | TuxToaster | though there are some that do |
| 20:05.49 | macnewbold | fwiw, there are 52 working weeks in a year, 50 if you take two weeks off in holiday/vacation/sick - as a ballpark, 2000 hours works well |
| 20:05.57 | dezertol | how much in tax do "you" pay or.. how much do "they" pay for each one tho |
| 20:06.04 | mgeary | TuxToaster: from what i can tell, no one can find those "that do" |
| 20:06.49 | dezertol | I'm more of a ... vote with your feet kind of guy |
| 20:06.49 | TuxToaster | mgeary: (not arguing your point btw) there are some that do, I just don't think they're a majority by any stretch. |
| 20:07.02 | TuxToaster | I used to work for one of them. |
| 20:07.12 | dezertol | I would like to see almost everything handed back to the states.. |
| 20:07.14 | macnewbold | the thing right now that messes a lot of stuff up is the people with the most money hire the best accountants, and find the most loopholes to decrease the tax they pay. |
| 20:07.17 | TuxToaster | but I'd argue that most don't factor that in |
| 20:07.32 | dezertol | then you get like 50 different choices |
| 20:07.33 | dezertol | lol |
| 20:07.55 | dezertol | there are a lot of ways to shelter money |
| 20:08.00 | macnewbold | tons |
| 20:08.07 | dezertol | tax free minicipal bonds for one.. are easy to get |
| 20:08.10 | TuxToaster | dezertol: that makes it really difficult to have operations in more than one state though |
| 20:08.34 | dezertol | some things ya.. but others.. it would help |
| 20:08.35 | TuxToaster | like, if you have call centers in SLC and LA, it's two different worlds on the HR side of things |
| 20:08.45 | dezertol | interstate commerse has allways been an issue |
| 20:09.05 | TuxToaster | because CA has all kinds of laws for how accrual is handled that UT doesn't, etc. |
| 20:09.07 | dezertol | ya but you likly have HR folks at both locations |
| 20:09.35 | TuxToaster | possibly, but you still have to shard your practices and invest more time and resources into ensuring that they are all met |
| 20:09.40 | dezertol | and I didn't say all.. things.. just as many as possible |
| 20:10.01 | dezertol | interstate commerse .. FBI .. CIA that kind of stuff would stay |
| 20:10.03 | TuxToaster | at least if things were more uniform, you wouldn't have to worry so much. Plus as an employee, it would be nice to know that you won't loose something by switching states |
| 20:10.26 | dezertol | well you would for state tax as it is anyway |
| 20:10.49 | dezertol | there are a lot of states that do not have a state tax |
| 20:10.57 | TuxToaster | like if I lived in CA, and were guaranteed that I could get unused vacation time paid out at the end of the year, I'd like to be able to move to another state with the same company and keep that benefit |
| 20:11.03 | dezertol | and some that it's so expensive.. it's hard to live there |
| 20:11.41 | dezertol | woudn't that be up to the company you "choose" to work for |
| 20:12.56 | dezertol | mgeary if you had to "sell" your company today... would it be worth 1 mil or more? |
| 20:14.17 | TuxToaster | dezertol: well, depends. And yes, alot of it could come down to choice, but a lot of it comes to having 50 different sets of laws to deal with. |
| 20:14.39 | dezertol | that already exists tho |
| 20:14.52 | dezertol | I mean.. even seat belt and car seat laws change from state to state |
| 20:14.56 | dezertol | so do gun laws.. |
| 20:15.05 | dezertol | in AZ you don't need a permit to carry a consiled weapon |
| 20:15.18 | dezertol | or in Alaska.. and a few others.. |
| 20:15.42 | dezertol | so.. your expected to know the differences in the laws regardless |
| 20:16.27 | mgeary | dezertol: there are so many ways to valuate a company, i'd have no idea |
| 20:17.10 | dezertol | well hyphothetically ... let's say it was .. or at least was close.. and your hiring people.. |
| 20:17.21 | dezertol | that makes you one of the millionaries |
| 20:17.51 | dezertol | it might not be your "take home" but MOST millionaries don't have a take home above 100k |
| 20:18.14 | mgeary | no, it wouldn't make me a millionaire |
| 20:18.16 | dezertol | well the way people value a compnay is.. |
| 20:18.24 | mgeary | my taxable income is what the government cares about |
| 20:18.29 | mgeary | not my net worth |
| 20:18.36 | dezertol | the value of a company in my opinion is "how much it could make" |
| 20:18.48 | dezertol | right.. |
| 20:18.48 | TuxToaster | dezertol: right, which it should be. |
| 20:18.51 | dezertol | "taxable income" |
| 20:19.05 | dezertol | most millionares ... there "taxable income" is less then or around 100k |
| 20:19.05 | mgeary | ...which is another reason why the super-wealthy are doing so well |
| 20:19.16 | dezertol | the rest is in invenstments.. |
| 20:19.21 | dezertol | and they don't liquidate it |
| 20:19.25 | dezertol | so it's not taxable.... |
| 20:19.27 | mgeary | most of their income is capital gains, not income |
| 20:19.39 | dezertol | correct.. |
| 20:19.55 | mgeary | and maybe i'm a freak, but i don't mind paying taxes |
| 20:20.08 | jsmith | mgeary: That makes two of us. |
| 20:20.13 | mgeary | i'd be happy if we all paid more. I'm on our school's community council, and i see how little they're given |
| 20:20.21 | dezertol | I wouldn't mind if I knew they wernt just totally wasted makeing politiicans rich |
| 20:20.23 | jsmith | I don't mind paying my fair share. |
| 20:20.44 | jsmith | I do mind paying more than a fair share, or when someone abuses my share. |
| 20:20.47 | mgeary | now, i do think we could stand to spend an awful lot less on defense |
| 20:20.55 | mgeary | sure |
| 20:20.58 | Nafai | "defense" |
| 20:21.27 | dezertol | I think all of the departments waste a LOT of money |
| 20:21.38 | dezertol | and defense is no excpetion... |
| 20:22.01 | mahelious | id feel far happier about paying taxes if fiscal spending was 100% transparent |
| 20:22.30 | dezertol | with todays technology.. and the web and what not.. |
| 20:22.40 | dezertol | I don't see any reason why it can't be.. more transparent |
| 20:23.05 | dezertol | except that they have to hide so people don't wize up to the number of scams.. |
| 20:23.26 | josePHPagoda | the most wasteful dept is the dept of redundancy dept |
| 20:23.46 | dezertol | like Utah ows me money => https://www.mine.utah.gov/index.asp |
| 20:24.11 | dezertol | I have two entries.. and have to prove I lived there to find out how much.. |
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| 20:32.04 | ninnypants | http://www.utah.gov/transparency/application.html?govLevel=STATE&entityId=1&transType=1&fiscalYear=2012&advanced=0&transdate_start=&transdate_end=&webuploaddate_start=&webuploaddate_end=&daterange_from=&daterange_to=&entity_trans_id=&entity_trans_ref_id=&contract_name=&contract_number=&vpc= |
| 20:32.36 | dezertol | yeiks |
| 20:33.13 | dezertol | I find it funny that the "state treasurer" has the biggest chunk |
| 20:33.38 | dezertol | wow like half all by themselfs |
| 20:36.34 | ninnypants | It would be awesome if they had an api that you could get raw information and run queries on it yourself |
| 20:36.52 | dezertol | that would just be depressing.. |
| 20:37.25 | dezertol | it would be cool.. but I think we'd find out things we don't want to know |
| 20:37.39 | dezertol | cuz then we'd feel obligated to fix it |
| 20:37.45 | ninnypants | that would be the point though wouldn't it |
| 20:38.34 | ninnypants | allow people to see exactly what's happening so that can make informed decisions and potentially change the things they have issues with |
| 20:38.46 | dezertol | ya |
| 20:38.52 | dezertol | it would be a "good" thing... |
| 20:39.09 | dezertol | unless people started to disapear of they dug to deep |
| 20:39.10 | dezertol | lol |
| 20:40.01 | mahelious | wouldnt it be nice if we, say, had seen the spending budget around the I-15 bidding BEFORE it had actaully been implemented. |
| 20:40.38 | dezertol | lol or found out that they took to many short cuts and had to re do some of the overpasses |
| 20:40.41 | mahelious | maybe someone could have piped up and said "hey, I dont think the governors office ought to be paying this company that much hush money..." |
| 20:41.04 | ninnypants | heh |
| 20:41.11 | dezertol | 100,000 for a shovel.. 10,000K to a toilet seat |
| 20:41.15 | dezertol | lol |
| 20:41.27 | ninnypants | then the company sued them even after getting hush money |
| 20:44.36 | mahelious | wow. i havent seen that many job postings in a single day...well ever. |
| 20:44.43 | mahelious | was that clearing out the queue? |
| 20:45.17 | ninnypants | yeah I think it was |
| 20:52.03 | influx | Oi. Do any of you have a Planet Fitness membership? |
| 20:54.36 | influx | So... |
| 20:54.59 | ninnypants | influx: I think one of my friends does and he seems to like the place |
| 20:55.05 | influx | [UPHPU-jobs] AJRNezvcgRi at UZREmEzHOAyf |
| 20:55.10 | ninnypants | I'm not 100% sure it's planet fitness though |
| 20:56.04 | influx | ninnypants: Right on. I came to like it too. I just called to try and pre-pay for a year, but they don't have that option unless I present some coupon that only members recevied. |
| 20:56.08 | influx | received. |
| 20:56.23 | influx | I haven't been a member for yars. |
| 20:56.25 | influx | years. |
| 20:56.40 | ninnypants | ahh so you're looking for the cupon? |
| 20:57.48 | influx | Da. |
| 20:59.01 | macnewbold | Monnok: is anyone at CG still doing Planet Fitness? influx is looking for a someone who is a member. |
| 20:59.15 | Monnok | Matt and Luke go |
| 20:59.28 | Monnok | ive been one in the past |
| 21:03.24 | Monnok | i never got one of those coupons |
| 21:05.15 | influx | No worries. I'll go the monthly route. :D Thanks doods. |
| 21:23.36 | carmony_ | macnewbold: hey |
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| 21:54.00 | ninnypants | josephscott: ping |
| 21:56.28 | josephscott | ninnypants: hi |
| 21:56.30 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju_: ping! |
| 21:56.50 | ninnypants | hey how much have you worked with sticky posts in wp? |
| 21:57.32 | josephscott | a little bit, is it not working? |
| 21:58.44 | ninnypants | I'm trying to get sticky posts working no a page that isn't home this gets the sticky posts to show up http://pastebin.com/W6GqLxN3 |
| 21:59.05 | ninnypants | only problem is it's ignoring the tax_query for some reason |
| 21:59.24 | ninnypants | so sticky posts from other categories are showing up |
| 22:01.12 | josephscott | you are doing per category sticky posts? |
| 22:01.39 | josephscott | will query_posts() work for that? |
| 22:02.32 | ninnypants | not per category this is on a page that only displays a certain category not on home or in any of the archive/blog pages |
| 22:03.22 | josephscott | sounds like it is effectively the same thing |
| 22:03.41 | josephscott | you have a page that only shows a posts of a specific category, and you want sticky posts for that category at the top |
| 22:03.52 | josephscott | or do you want sticky posts of any category at the top? |
| 22:04.04 | josephscott | I think I'd still look at query_posts |
| 22:04.17 | josephscott | something like: query_posts(array('post__in'=>get_option('sticky_posts'))); |
| 22:04.27 | josephscott | with a category filter, if that is what you are looking to do |
| 22:05.01 | ninnypants | sticky posts for just that category |
| 22:05.57 | ninnypants | josephscott: that's what I was starting to figure I'd have to do I was hoping not to have two queries |
| 22:23.28 | carmony | slides, slides, slides...... must... finish... slides.... |
| 22:23.52 | TuxToaster | $lart slides |
| 22:23.52 | raifbot | plops slides into a giant vat of herring. |
| 22:25.00 | josephscott | $8ball does carmony really need to finish his slides? |
| 22:25.01 | raifbot | josephscott - It is certain. |
| 22:25.05 | josephscott | hmm, ok then |
| 22:25.10 | carmony | lol |
| 22:25.50 | carmony | especially if I submit them to speak at tek :P |
| 22:30.25 | TuxToaster | $8ball the question is... *will* carmony finish his slides? |
| 22:30.26 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Most likely. |
| 22:30.41 | TuxToaster | apparently raifbot has faith in you |
| 22:32.04 | carmony | faith poorly placed bud :P |
| 22:49.15 | josephscott | $8ball will twitter be back up again soon? |
| 22:49.16 | raifbot | josephscott - My sources say no. |
| 22:49.25 | josephscott | the fail whale seems to agree |
| 22:52.41 | TuxToaster | $8ball should they put the fail whale out of its misery? |
| 22:52.41 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 22:52.55 | TuxToaster | $8ball should they put the fail whale out of its misery? |
| 22:52.55 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Most likely. |
| 22:53.09 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:53.59 | josephscott | ~lolstats |
| 22:53.59 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3213. Top 3: carmony -- 444 (13.8%), TuxToaster -- 424 (13.2%), SunSparc -- 407 (12.7%) |
| 22:55.09 | TuxToaster | hmm, apparently I messed up my IRC theme |
| 22:55.30 | TuxToaster | http://cl.ly/0f1E2f0M452O3j1c3G08 |
| 22:56.56 | josephscott | linkinus? |
| 22:58.22 | TuxToaster | LimeChat |
| 22:59.08 | TuxToaster | the themes are pure CSS based, which is kinda nice |
| 22:59.40 | TuxToaster | I want to like Textual more for features and such, but I've stuck with LimeChat for a while |
| 23:00.40 | josephscott | yeah, the ones people talk about at work most are limechat and linkinus |
| 23:00.48 | josephscott | colloquy just isn't what it used to be :-) |
| 23:01.07 | TuxToaster | Colloquy just feels too dumbed down to me |
| 23:01.31 | TuxToaster | I started using LimeChat because it was closest to a client I used on Linux for a long time |
| 23:03.46 | carmony | I switched to LimeChat jsut cause it works |
| 23:03.48 | carmony | no crashes |
| 23:04.07 | carmony | no "disconnecting" without telling me |
| 23:09.03 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
| 23:09.12 | TuxToaster | yay, fixed the theme |
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| 23:15.30 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:15.31 | raifbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets josePHPagoda feel it. |
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| 23:20.42 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 23:22.18 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 23:22.18 | raifbot | Chuck Norris and Superman once fought each other on a bet. The loser had to start wearing his underwear on the outside of his pants. |
| 23:25.07 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 23:26.44 | macnewbold | ~lolstats |
| 23:26.44 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3215. Top 3: carmony -- 444 (13.8%), TuxToaster -- 425 (13.2%), SunSparc -- 407 (12.7%) |
| 23:27.15 | josePHPagoda | i'm not near the top even |
| 23:27.17 | josePHPagoda | so I'm safe |
| 23:27.19 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 23:27.19 | macnewbold | not even close |
| 23:27.22 | macnewbold | ~lolstats josePHPagoda |
| 23:27.22 | ibot | josePHPagoda has said lol 27 times (0.8 %), ranked 16/101 (percentile: 15.8 %) |
| 23:27.31 | josephscott | hmm, that shows up funny in this limechat theme |
| 23:27.32 | macnewbold | ~lolstats macnewbold |
| 23:27.32 | ibot | macnewbold has said lol 0 times (0.0 %) |
| 23:27.41 | macnewbold | i should lol at that, but won't |
| 23:27.43 | josephscott | and this is just crazy with embedding turned on http://www.chowmow.com/images/dance_animated_gif.gif |
| 23:27.54 | josePHPagoda | that's no fair |
| 23:27.57 | josePHPagoda | it should have counted that |
| 23:28.04 | josePHPagoda | ~lolstats macnewbold |
| 23:28.04 | ibot | macnewbold has said lol 0 times (0.0 %) |
| 23:28.12 | macnewbold | mwahahaha |
| 23:28.17 | josePHPagoda | so I just have to escape my lols? |
| 23:28.24 | macnewbold | 'parently |
| 23:28.28 | josePHPagoda | :P |
| 23:28.32 | josePHPagoda | \lol |
| 23:28.41 | josePHPagoda | ~lolstats josephpagoda |
| 23:28.41 | ibot | josephpagoda has said lol 0 times (0.0 %) |
| 23:28.49 | macnewbold | now everyone's going to be trying lol injection attacks |
| 23:29.04 | josePHPagoda | something like that |
| 23:29.10 | macnewbold | and i think it must be case sensitive on the tstats |
| 23:29.24 | josePHPagoda | ~lolstats josePHPagoda |
| 23:29.24 | ibot | josePHPagoda has said lol 27 times (0.8 %), ranked 16/101 (percentile: 15.8 %) |
| 23:30.05 | josePHPagoda | so escaping the lol seems to work |
| 23:30.25 | josePHPagoda | i wonder if there is a character code for lol |
| 23:30.28 | josePHPagoda | like |
| 23:30.30 | josePHPagoda | \t |
| 23:30.33 | josePHPagoda | for tab and such |
| 23:30.37 | josePHPagoda | \l |
| 23:30.39 | josePHPagoda | for lol |
| 23:30.41 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 23:30.41 | macnewbold | :-o |
| 23:30.58 | Monnok | afaik, it needs to be "lol" and nothing else |
| 23:31.10 | macnewbold | too bad \r is taken, or it could be rotflol or rotflmbo |
| 23:31.11 | Monnok | dont think it has anything to do with escaping |
| 23:31.19 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 23:31.24 | macnewbold | ~lolstats josePHPagoda |
| 23:31.24 | ibot | josePHPagoda has said lol 28 times (0.9 %), ranked 16/101 (percentile: 15.8 %) |
| 23:31.25 | josePHPagoda | i know Monnok, i'm just being humorous |
| 23:31.29 | josePHPagoda | or trying to be |
| 23:31.33 | macnewbold | hehe, lol |
| 23:31.41 | josePHPagoda | macnewbold: you cheat |
| 23:31.42 | macnewbold | ~lol Monnok |
| 23:31.43 | ibot | ACTION Laughs out Loud at Monnok |
| 23:31.44 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 23:31.46 | Monnok | oic |
| 23:31.56 | macnewbold | there's the escape - it isn't \ it is ~ |
| 23:32.23 | josePHPagoda | so i just realized the grinch isn't the villian |
| 23:32.27 | josePHPagoda | it's his dog |
| 23:32.29 | josePHPagoda | (referring to the original cartoon thing) |
| 23:33.12 | TuxToaster | thank you josephscott for doing that animation above. lol. |
| 23:33.21 | TuxToaster | yeah, the embedding *usually* is really nice |
| 23:33.32 | TuxToaster | but caution must be taken if mindjuju_ is around. |
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| 23:36.54 | mindjuju_ | i can see that i've wasted my life by doing computery stuff when I could have been doing the well of death - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZK4_uSgN6k |
| 23:36.57 | josephscott | TuxToaster: what did you need to do to make lolstats display correctly? |
| 23:37.11 | mindjuju_ | 100% no rick/rebecca |
| 23:37.35 | mindjuju_ | keep watching until the white cars join in |
| 23:45.02 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju_: how're you doing? |
| 23:46.23 | josePHPagoda | that's intense |
| 23:46.47 | TuxToaster | josephscott: apparently the theme I based off of had set body .text span { display: block; } |
| 23:47.38 | TuxToaster | any text that has an "effect" (colors, bold, etc) as well as channel names I think are wrapped in spans. So I added .text span span { display: inline; } |
| 23:47.41 | josephscott | this one too |
| 23:48.10 | josephscott | ~lolstats |
| 23:48.10 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3216. Top 3: carmony -- 444 (13.8%), TuxToaster -- 425 (13.2%), SunSparc -- 407 (12.7%) |
| 23:48.13 | TuxToaster | if you modify the theme file you can use Cmd+* to refresh |
| 23:49.08 | TuxToaster | or more correctly it'd be Cmd+Shift+8 I guess. |
| 23:50.07 | josephscott | ~lolstats |
| 23:50.07 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3216. Top 3: carmony -- 444 (13.8%), TuxToaster -- 425 (13.2%), SunSparc -- 407 (12.7%) |
| 23:50.23 | josephscott | hmm, turning off display block for that rule makes things worse |
| 23:50.28 | macnewbold | its funny that carmony is our best loller |
| 23:50.45 | TuxToaster | yeah you don't want to turn it off, you want to add an inline rule for span span |
| 23:50.51 | TuxToaster | what theme is it? |
| 23:52.03 | josephscott | TuxToaster: http://hanblog.info/blog/post/2011/08/A-Limechat-theme |
| 23:52.13 | josephscott | body.normal .text span span { |
| 23:52.13 | josephscott | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.13 | josephscott | } |
| 23:52.17 | josephscott | much better |
| 23:52.26 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:52.26 | raifbot | burns Heartsbane to a crisp with a laser. |
| 23:53.13 | TuxToaster | yeah that's the base one that the one I used was based off :-) |
| 23:53.37 | TuxToaster | fwiw, https://github.com/jschoolcraft/Limechat-Themes has a bunch |
| 23:53.45 | TuxToaster | and I forked and added mine |
| 23:54.16 | josephscott | I saw that, but lack of screenshots makes it hard to tell what I'm getting |
| 23:54.33 | TuxToaster | though I'm already going to have to update it. Just found out when you sent me that link that it's hard to read when the highlight is on |
| 23:55.04 | TuxToaster | eh, true, but I just installed the repo and then went down the list in LimeChat seeing how they looked with my setup |
| 23:55.06 | Heartsbane | raifbot: why do you hate me |
| 23:55.10 | Heartsbane | why? |
| 23:55.17 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 23:55.17 | raifbot | whips out his power stapler and staples fridgesm's foot to the floor. |
| 23:55.35 | Heartsbane | raifbot: you fickle little boty |
| 23:55.45 | Heartsbane | s/boty/bot/ |
| 23:59.06 | carmony | macnewbold: lol |
| 23:59.17 | carmony | macnewbold: you going to make a post about the meeting on uphpu.org? |
