| 00:00.01 | fungus | Gentoo users need to build a reference machine to build the kernels on, and distribute it via their own scripts. |
| 00:00.54 | stderr- | mindjuju: many warts, depends on what packages you have installed, whether you're going the route of dist-upgrade or do-release-upgrade. I've had numerous dist-upgrades go awry in the past, but I've had many smooth dist-upgrades as well. |
| 00:01.15 | fungus | I know, Gentoo can work. We have one of those ricer types that manages his own set of about 10 Gentoo machines. |
| 00:01.37 | fungus | But the amount of work he had to do in order to get it all in line was huge. |
| 00:01.38 | mindjuju | good to know stderr-, is aptitude any better? |
| 00:01.54 | fungus | mindjuju, no, pretty much the same thing |
| 00:02.09 | stderr- | no, it's just a front end to apt/dpkg like apt-get. |
| 00:02.27 | mindjuju | oh, here i thought aptitude had a secret sauce that made it better |
| 00:02.53 | stderr- | yea, its search system ;-) |
| 00:03.32 | stderr- | and the unholy power of ncurses, of course. |
| 00:03.36 | fungus | aptitude has it's console UI, and combines apt-cache and apt-get magic into a single program, that's all |
| 00:04.15 | stderr- | well, there's more to it then that. Aptitude actually circumvents apt-cache in several ways when searching and such. |
| 00:09.04 | stderr- | man what is going on with my screenrc, ugh |
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| 16:13.03 | mahelious | feel like im coming down with something. that seasonal illness. yup, definitely a case of "workaholicitis". think i should just go home for the next couple of days and get some rest... |
| 16:13.20 | mindjuju | sounds good to me! |
| 16:14.11 | mahelious | mindjuju: youre not looking so healthy yourself. you must have it too. :) |
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| 16:15.13 | mindjuju | we've actually got a site wide fire drill in about 6 minutes, so i got to walk the entire building making sure it can be heard everywhere |
| 16:15.15 | mindjuju | :( |
| 16:15.21 | mindjuju | luckily i bought ear plugs this morning |
| 16:15.33 | jsmith | mindjuju: Lovely! |
| 16:15.46 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju: so you won't be able to hear it anywhere! |
| 16:16.08 | mindjuju | this is fire alarm, not security, it's LOUD |
| 16:16.37 | mindjuju | makes security alarms sound like a whisper, in many cases |
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| 16:49.01 | Utah_Dave | Just did a search on using jQuery to edit text in place with ajax and the 3rd result is on josephscott.org |
| 16:49.18 | Utah_Dave | Google's results sure are dropping in quality!! |
| 16:49.21 | josephscott | haha |
| 16:50.10 | josePHPagoda | lol |
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| 17:00.12 | josephscott | I'm trying to figure out why you'd need a two pack for hedge trimmers http://www.woot.com/ |
| 17:00.15 | josephscott | one for each hand? |
| 17:00.48 | josePHPagoda | that'd be glorious! |
| 17:00.49 | ninnypants | josephscott: sounds about right |
| 17:01.00 | ninnypants | or maybe you have two kids that you need to put to work |
| 17:01.29 | fungus | warrior gardening |
| 17:01.37 | Utah_Dave | hey josephscott, I see that in your jeip svn repo you have jquery 1.2.6 included. My app is currently using jquery 1.3.2. Do you think it will still work? I guess I should just try it. |
| 17:01.49 | josephscott | should still work |
| 17:02.00 | Utah_Dave | ok, thanks. |
| 17:02.13 | josephscott | that code has been around for awhile, the original version used prototype.js :-) |
| 17:02.23 | jsmith | Ah, the good ol' days... |
| 17:06.55 | stderr- | "warrior gardening" ? that's how I play Skyrim |
| 17:10.16 | fungus | lol, i was originally imagining a dual-wielding gardener, vanquishing weeds by the hundreds and trimming hedges by the hoards |
| 17:10.45 | Monnok | isnt that how alchemists do it? |
| 17:11.27 | Monnok | but yes, i had the same image in my head fungus |
| 17:13.32 | fungus | in Skyrim, i prefer the fireballs from a darkened corner. |
| 17:14.05 | josePHPagoda | can you put a pot on a dragon's head and not have it see you anymore? |
| 17:14.23 | fungus | No, dragons are a different matter. :( |
| 17:14.36 | skinner | What is everyones preferred video card brand between ATI and NVIDIA? |
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| 17:15.36 | josePHPagoda | i like nvidia |
| 17:15.39 | fungus | Nvidia, better linux support |
| 17:15.45 | josePHPagoda | ati is getting better |
| 17:15.49 | josePHPagoda | and is catching up |
| 17:15.53 | josePHPagoda | nvidia i've had better luck w/ though |
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| 17:17.42 | herlo | intel is da best! |
| 17:18.00 | skinner | @josePHPagoda That's been my experience too |
| 17:18.15 | josePHPagoda | intel is good for some stuff |
| 17:18.19 | josePHPagoda | gaming isn't one of them |
| 17:18.21 | josePHPagoda | :-p |
| 17:20.35 | mindjuju | this is funny https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/384032_223130101090243_212147665521820_530569_1055070608_n.jpg |
| 17:25.40 | Monnok | i wish i could just do that at my workplace |
| 17:26.07 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 17:26.09 | mindjuju | fire drill went great btw |
| 17:26.14 | josePHPagoda | awesome |
| 17:26.37 | mindjuju | here is somethign to smile about, America's Funniest Home Video :: Astronauts on the moon - http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/11/astronauts-falling-on-the-moon/ |
| 17:26.59 | Monnok | we have a contractor here that makes me want to burn babies and pull the wings off of fairies |
| 17:27.13 | mindjuju | that's awesome Monnok |
| 17:28.11 | skinner | Rhinos are just fat unicorns. If we'd give them the time and attention they deserve, as well as a diet: They'd reveal their majestic ways. |
| 17:28.40 | Bikerdan | @mindjuju: Looks like some of them might be breakdancing... |
| 17:29.26 | josePHPagoda | so what frameworks do you guys use? |
| 17:29.35 | josePHPagoda | and do they support memcached out of the box? |
| 17:29.37 | mindjuju | i know huh? |
| 17:29.39 | SunSparc | CakePHP |
| 17:29.56 | josePHPagoda | (we're updating our guides now that we've added memcache support) |
| 17:29.57 | herlo | josePHPagoda: Django |
| 17:30.05 | herlo | josePHPagoda: web.py |
| 17:30.14 | herlo | josePHPagoda: TurboGears 2 |
| 17:30.32 | josePHPagoda | we'll have python support soon herlo |
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| 17:30.59 | josePHPagoda | and then your heckling abilities will be diminished |
| 17:31.02 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 17:31.06 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:31.11 | herlo | lol |
| 17:31.14 | herlo | I doubt that |
| 17:31.17 | josePHPagoda | actually, python support is down a ways |
| 17:31.31 | josePHPagoda | we've got a lot to do to perfect our php implementation |
| 17:31.47 | SunSparc | mindjuju: My son had fun minecrafting with you last night. Thanks. |
| 17:31.54 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:31.57 | skinner | I might be doing this wrong, but when you sniff glue, how do you keep it from totally gumming up your nostrils? |
| 17:31.58 | mindjuju | way good times |
| 17:32.03 | SunSparc | Indeed |
| 17:32.06 | josePHPagoda | though, thanks to josephscott we have ETAG support proper now |
| 17:32.07 | herlo | SunSparc: mindjuju and I were just talking about that |
| 17:32.13 | herlo | I need to get going on setting it up |
| 17:32.21 | josePHPagoda | my son has been having fun playing on "victor's server" |
| 17:32.26 | SunSparc | herlo: Oh yeah? |
| 17:32.30 | josePHPagoda | he saw someone flying overhead and thought it was cool |
| 17:32.46 | SunSparc | Such a great game |
| 17:32.48 | herlo | SunSparc: I'll need to do some testing, so when christmas comes, the kid can play with me |
| 17:33.02 | SunSparc | Definitely! |
| 17:33.06 | herlo | and then, when he goes back to SoCal, we can get online and play when his homework is done |
| 17:33.07 | mindjuju | was just wondering if sean would be coming on for turkey day |
| 17:33.17 | herlo | mindjuju: Shaun, and no |
| 17:33.23 | mindjuju | dag! |
| 17:33.27 | herlo | he'll be here for the week before and after christmas |
| 17:33.29 | mindjuju | i'm alway afraid of misspelling his name |
| 17:33.33 | herlo | lol |
| 17:33.47 | herlo | mindjuju: I'll just keep correcting you until you get it right :) |
| 17:33.59 | mindjuju | if it makes you feel any better I called DexterTheDragon Chris for months before i remembered correctly Kevin |
| 17:34.17 | herlo | lol |
| 17:34.36 | herlo | mindjuju: not offended, nothing to worry about. We'll just get you on the right track at some point soon :) |
| 17:34.38 | mindjuju | he was a good sport about it, though i think towards the end he grew tired of it |
| 17:35.37 | mindjuju | well thats kind of you, it bugs me something awful when people misspell Corban's name as Corbin (in latin the raven) |
| 17:35.37 | herlo | hehe |
| 17:35.43 | mindjuju | why would i call my son raven? |
| 17:35.53 | mindjuju | an ill omened bird?? |
| 17:36.10 | herlo | lol |
| 17:36.15 | herlo | I probably have done that |
| 17:36.16 | jsmith | Well, you know the difference between a crow and a raven, right? |
| 17:36.33 | mindjuju | i guess i don't |
| 17:36.47 | jsmith | You know what pinion feathers are, right? |
| 17:37.06 | mindjuju | me neither |
| 17:37.27 | jsmith | They're the long feathers at the tips of the wings |
| 17:38.06 | mindjuju | wow , ravens 4x heavier than crow, much bigger |
| 17:38.16 | josePHPagoda | do they have the intelligence though? |
| 17:38.17 | herlo | yeah, knew that |
| 17:38.31 | herlo | I'm still trying to figure out why it matters |
| 17:38.36 | josePHPagoda | crows are earily smart... |
| 17:38.40 | jsmith | A raven has four pinion feathers, while a crow has five |
| 17:38.57 | josePHPagoda | err |
| 17:39.00 | josePHPagoda | eerily |
| 17:39.01 | jsmith | Sooo... the difference between a crow and a raven is a matter of a pinion. |
| 17:39.04 | herlo | and this is easy to see from 100ft away? |
| 17:39.05 | jsmith | </joke> |
| 17:39.10 | josePHPagoda | jsmith... wow |
| 17:39.12 | mindjuju | oh man |
| 17:39.14 | josePHPagoda | that was... unique |
| 17:39.14 | skinner | lol |
| 17:39.16 | herlo | and jsmith |
| 17:39.25 | jsmith | You guys are easy marks |
| 17:39.33 | herlo | LOL @ mindjuju |
| 17:39.40 | jsmith | I totally had you, too :-) |
| 17:40.04 | skinner | lol @ the raven |
| 17:40.07 | herlo | jsmith: it's just like snipes |
| 17:40.27 | herlo | which I recently sent my son hunting for. Good times |
| 17:41.35 | jsmith | herlo: If you really want to have fun, you should build a "bear call" |
| 17:42.48 | skinner | I hate it when I get calls from bears. They usually want me to donate something to their cause, money, food, a spare child..... |
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| 17:43.55 | herlo | jsmith: oh, boy! |
| 17:44.18 | SunSparc | jsmith: lol |
| 17:44.22 | herlo | now *that* could be dangerous! |
| 17:45.29 | Bikerdan | It's gettin a little rowdy in here.... |
| 17:45.40 | herlo | Bikerdan: and what of it? |
| 17:45.41 | herlo | huh! |
| 17:45.44 | herlo | huh! |
| 17:45.45 | herlo | ?? |
| 17:45.47 | Bikerdan | limh |
| 17:46.05 | herlo | hehe, you are welcome |
| 17:47.59 | skinner | ~skinner |
| 17:47.59 | ibot | skinner is the mod which completely ruined Haste's perfectly good and efficient OSkin. |
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| 17:57.07 | beandog | monin |
| 17:57.19 | beandog | anybody have any experience with Media Temple |
| 17:58.03 | herlo | beandog: at one point we evaluated using it for skdy |
| 17:58.04 | Bikerdan | I had lunch with their systems guys at OSCON once... |
| 17:58.10 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 17:58.19 | beandog | Bikerdan: did he spit in your food? |
| 17:58.28 | Bikerdan | Not that I'm aware of. |
| 17:58.30 | Bikerdan | :( |
| 17:58.41 | Bikerdan | I did look away for a couple of seconds. |
| 17:58.57 | beandog | herlo: whatd you end up going with |
| 18:00.04 | herlo | beandog: stackable |
| 18:00.11 | beandog | okay |
| 18:00.27 | herlo | beandog: I wasn't a big part of that decision, but I trust the guy who did make that decision |
| 18:00.53 | herlo | and stackable is pretty solid, uses virtuozzo. They also have full VPS solutions, too. |
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| 18:01.33 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: Hey, I got jeip working in my app. Thanks a lot for the plugin! |
| 18:02.10 | Utah_Dave | It seems to work fine with jquery 1.3.2 |
| 18:02.47 | Utah_Dave | I also was able to just use the json_encode function that's in php >5.2.0, so i didn't need the json.php |
| 18:12.19 | beandog | herlo: I'm trying to find VPS services that offer Gentoo as a host OS |
| 18:12.23 | beandog | There's not too many of them. :T |
| 18:12.33 | beandog | Rackable does, but this client doesn't really wanna use them. |
| 18:13.20 | fungus | beandog, lionode |
| 18:13.25 | fungus | linode* |
| 18:13.33 | beandog | yah, that's one option |
| 18:13.37 | beandog | I'm just looking for some diversity |
| 18:13.40 | josephscott | Utah_Dave: glad to hear it |
| 18:13.57 | fungus | beandog, EC2 |
| 18:14.16 | beandog | Amazon doesn't exactly have the greatest history of reliability |
| 18:14.35 | beandog | that and I find the EC2 interface is confusing |
| 18:15.11 | fungus | rackspace |
| 18:15.27 | beandog | yah we were talking about them. client doesn't wanna use em |
| 18:15.45 | josephscott | my EC2 instance has never gone down (surprisingly), and I just use the aws web console, since I only have one instance |
| 18:16.22 | fungus | https://www.google.com/search?q=gentoo+vps |
| 18:22.33 | herlo | beandog: have you looked at prgrmr.com? |
| 18:33.14 | fungus | herlo, domain squatter? |
| 18:35.15 | fungus | oh, prgmr.com |
| 18:36.08 | beandog | meh |
| 18:36.13 | beandog | I can see me locking myself out in 5 minutes |
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| 18:38.06 | mindjuju | ~lock beandog out |
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| 18:59.23 | Monnok | $rlart |
| 18:59.23 | raifbot | wielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot. |
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| 19:12.18 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: Hey, I just submitted a patch to jeip to add a cancel_on_blur option. It defaults to false. |
| 19:12.55 | josephscott | everyone loves one more option :-) |
| 19:13.36 | Utah_Dave | :) I'm just trying to do my part to add bloat to the free software world! |
| 19:14.10 | Utah_Dave | I figured actually contributing a patch would be better than complaining in the comments. :) |
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| 20:27.11 | mindjuju | ~apb beandog |
| 20:27.11 | ibot | ACTION hires Tim to find beandog |
| 20:27.19 | mindjuju | linode is up, at least freemont, ca is |
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| 20:35.16 | herlo | mindjuju: mine went down for a moment |
| 20:35.22 | herlo | but it's back up now. I'm in TX |
| 20:36.40 | mindjuju | so herlo, how hard is it to update to a specific linux kernel version? |
| 20:37.13 | herlo | yum update |
| 20:37.17 | mindjuju | i'm looking to run 2.6.28-rc1 |
| 20:37.23 | herlo | is it in the repo? |
| 20:37.29 | mindjuju | i don't know |
| 20:37.40 | herlo | if not, you'll need ot build your own rpm or deploy your own kernel separately |
| 20:37.44 | mindjuju | i just know it's code name is erotic pickled herring |
| 20:37.46 | mindjuju | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_kernel_names |
| 20:37.49 | herlo | mindjuju: if you are trying to do this on centos5, good luck |
| 20:37.53 | mindjuju | that sounds too cool to pass up |
| 20:44.34 | romanovic | mindjuju: how long was linode down for? |
| 20:44.58 | mindjuju | don't know, beandog reported linode down, though it didn't affect my server in cali |
| 20:45.08 | carmony | ooooh man.... The Oatmeal.... |
| 20:45.14 | carmony | Thanksgiving... |
| 20:45.16 | carmony | is epic |
| 20:47.41 | josePHPagoda | ??? |
| 20:49.43 | carmony | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/thanksgiving |
| 20:50.06 | mahelious | The Oatmeal...is epic |
| 20:50.11 | mahelious | there, fixed that for ya |
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| 20:59.42 | mahelious | do you eat your potatos with gravy? or your gravy with potatos? |
| 20:59.51 | Bikerdan | Potatoes? |
| 21:00.04 | Bikerdan | What's that? |
| 21:01.02 | Bikerdan | Aluva suddin potatoes looks like a really weird word. |
| 21:01.08 | mindjuju | i likes garic parmesan mash |
| 21:01.10 | mindjuju | no gravy |
| 21:01.40 | Bikerdan | $lart @mindjuju |
| 21:01.40 | raifbot | whips @mindjuju with a wet and grimy noodle just because. |
| 21:02.25 | josephscott | $8ball is gravy worth it? |
| 21:02.25 | raifbot | josephscott - Very doubtful. |
| 21:02.27 | Bikerdan | How dare you... "no gravy".... |
| 21:02.40 | mahelious | my potatos are a lot more possessive than yours apparently. very neurotic... :D |
| 21:02.53 | Bikerdan | $8ball are you full of it? |
| 21:02.53 | raifbot | Bikerdan - Yes - definitely. |
| 21:03.04 | Bikerdan | limh |
| 21:03.06 | mindjuju | i could see no gravy on normal mash, but why gussy up the mash with garlic and parm if you're going to drown in gravy? |
| 21:03.16 | Bikerdan | I agree |
| 21:03.22 | Bikerdan | At least have it on the side.... |
| 21:03.29 | Bikerdan | limh |
| 21:03.44 | mindjuju | unless of course, you're going for a mountain made of gravy ala close encounters of the third kind |
| 21:03.58 | josephscott | $8ball will I gain 10 pounds this week? |
| 21:03.58 | raifbot | josephscott - Ask again later. |
| 21:04.23 | josephscott | $8ball should I ask after Thursday? |
| 21:04.23 | raifbot | josephscott - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 21:04.36 | mindjuju | http://www.theofantastique.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/close-encounters-of-the-third-kind.jpg |
| 21:04.43 | Bikerdan | $8ball are you beating around the bush |
| 21:04.44 | raifbot | Bikerdan - Yes - definitely. |
| 21:04.45 | mindjuju | then you need the gravy as a color |
| 21:04.58 | josephscott | $8ball does this mean something? |
| 21:04.58 | raifbot | josephscott - Better not tell you now. |
| 21:05.07 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 21:05.33 | Bikerdan | $8ball are you avoiding answering josephscott? |
| 21:05.33 | raifbot | Bikerdan - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 21:05.39 | Bikerdan | Wow... |
| 21:05.41 | Bikerdan | Vague |
| 21:05.54 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:06.08 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: because gravy is the primary reason to eat mashers |
| 21:06.23 | josephscott | $8ball should I demand an answer? |
| 21:06.23 | raifbot | josephscott - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 21:06.32 | josephscott | $lart $8ball |
| 21:06.33 | raifbot | plops $8ball into a giant vat of herring. |
| 21:06.40 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 21:06.43 | mindjuju | DtD, i agree normal mash needs gravy, but not garlic +parm mash |
| 21:06.46 | Bikerdan | erotic herring? |
| 21:06.57 | mindjuju | yeah, that's the linux kernel code name |
| 21:06.59 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 21:07.03 | mindjuju | but just that version of the kernel |
| 21:09.10 | mindjuju | man, i'm totally right here right now - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5DYQHFaVc |
| 21:09.21 | ninnypants | SunSparc: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/NPP/news/viirs-firstlight.html |
| 21:10.50 | Bikerdan | I've got a bad motivator too. |
| 21:11.03 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:12.30 | Bikerdan | ninnypants: Can't wait till they get that in the iPhone. |
| 21:15.56 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: on the iPhone? |
| 21:16.24 | Bikerdan | Yeah... They have GPS, compass, camera,... next viirs |
| 21:16.56 | ninnypants | aah I thought maybe there was an app out like google earth or something |
| 21:17.04 | Bikerdan | Right now it's only 500+ lbs |
| 21:17.24 | ninnypants | I'm sure viirs will be in my next android or maybe in my kindle fire |
| 21:17.26 | Bikerdan | I realized that after I posted... easily misunderstood |
| 21:18.13 | ninnypants | would be cool to have a live stream from the viirs that was publicly available |
| 21:18.26 | Bikerdan | Yeah |
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| 21:21.27 | mindjuju | so beandog, which linode went down? |
| 21:21.42 | beandog | I dunno |
| 21:21.43 | beandog | it came back up a minute later |
| 21:21.47 | mindjuju | oh |
| 21:22.21 | beandog | but their site was down |
| 21:22.26 | mindjuju | oh |
| 21:22.33 | beandog | and a clien'ts |
| 21:22.34 | beandog | client's |
| 21:22.39 | beandog | but another client's was fine |
| 21:22.44 | beandog | different data centers |
| 21:26.22 | ninnypants | anyone else here use stackable? |
| 21:35.05 | macnewbold | i have used it |
| 21:36.05 | herlo | me! |
| 21:36.22 | herlo | my experience will likely be close to macnewbold's :) |
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| 21:54.38 | ninnypants | herlo: macnewbold I was just wondering if anyone else was getting a bunch of Gateway errors |
| 21:56.03 | herlo | ninnypants: now? |
| 21:56.34 | ninnypants | yeah I've been getting them on and off for the last couple days |
| 21:57.25 | macnewbold | weird |
| 21:57.30 | macnewbold | i'd ask support about it |
| 21:57.38 | macnewbold | that shouldn't happen often |
| 21:57.41 | macnewbold | especially not on and off |
| 21:57.57 | ninnypants | yeah that's what I was thinking |
| 21:58.29 | ninnypants | planned to talk to support but haven't had time yet and where it's just a test site it's not a big deal |
| 22:05.46 | SunSparc_ | My AWS ec2 instances are working flawlessly. As is my Rackspace cloud server. |
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| 22:41.49 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 22:41.49 | raifbot | Although it is not common knowledge, there are actually three sides to the Force: the light side, the dark side, and Chuck Norris. |
| 22:49.29 | Monnok | $rlart |
| 22:49.30 | raifbot | whacks jsmith upside the head. |
| 22:49.52 | jsmith | Thanks Monnok -- I needed that |
| 22:54.33 | ninnypants | I wish the kindle would just support epub |
| 22:56.03 | jsmith | ninnypants: No stinkin' kidding... |
| 22:56.21 | jsmith | ninnypants: It would be one thing if .mobi was technically superior, but it's not even close |
| 22:56.26 | jsmith | (especially with epub3) |
| 22:57.32 | ninnypants | yeah I've been hearing really good things about the new version of epub |
| 23:00.53 | jsmith | I wish I had more time to play with it |
| 23:01.04 | jsmith | I've only really ever done significant work with epub 2 |
| 23:03.20 | ninnypants | jsmith: I've never done anything in epub but there seems to be a lot of programming books in that format like all the A Book Apart books are in that format and I'd rather not have to convert files before I can read them |
| 23:03.44 | jsmith | Aye... so true. |
| 23:07.15 | ninnypants | but the kindle is amazing for reading so I guess I'll put up with it for now... |
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| 23:16.37 | SunSparc_ | I just wish Kindle books were not so outrageously priced. |
| 23:17.34 | ninnypants | SunSparc_: very true but I find that I am able to concentrate better when I'm reading on my kindle so it's worth it |
| 23:17.59 | ninnypants | I also have a prime account so I can check out a bunch of books for free as well |
| 23:18.07 | SunSparc_ | ninnypants: better than if you are reading a physical book? |
| 23:19.16 | ninnypants | SunSparc_: yeah when reading a normal book I find myself glancing at the opposite page from time to time which breaks my concentration |
| 23:19.43 | SunSparc_ | Interesting |
| 23:20.38 | SunSparc_ | I think the technical term for that is, "the squirrel effect". |
| 23:20.38 | ninnypants | yeah I read a book on spead reading and it actually helped a little but it wasn't really advice that would work on a screen so it wasn't amazingly helpful |
| 23:22.11 | SunSparc_ | I took a speed reading course. Pretty amazing stuff. But it was more work than I was willing to put into it at the time so I never increased my speed much. |
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| 23:26.46 | ninnypants | yeah I got up to 326wpm but it relied on hand movements and things quite a bit so it doesn't really work for me |
| 23:27.08 | ninnypants | there's one called eyeQ that my friend was using I think I'll see how it went for him |
| 23:35.01 | macnewbold | what's the point of reading fast if you don't enjoy it? |
| 23:36.23 | ninnypants | macnewbold: I would enjoy reading at 900wpm |
| 23:36.48 | ninnypants | the speed reading helps you with comprehension as well |
| 23:37.51 | ninnypants | I don't have a ton of time to read and a very large book list so I would enjoy being able to get more reading in when I can |
| 23:58.00 | mgeary | gah SHOOT |
| 23:58.38 | mgeary | mail server is apparently still/again compromised |
| 23:58.46 | mgeary | fungus: you around and willing to chat? |
| 23:59.14 | fungus | sure |
| 23:59.32 | mgeary | so, my biggest problem is finding out what the problem is. I have this: |
| 23:59.35 | mgeary | http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=209.90.125.205 |
| 23:59.51 | mgeary | CBL seems to think it's a php-based vulnerability that's being exploited |
