| 00:18.37 | beandog | man |
| 00:18.41 | beandog | there is never a dull moment at my job |
| 00:19.50 | josePHPagoda | what happened? |
| 00:20.24 | beandog | I'm legally prohibited from telling you |
| 00:20.36 | beandog | :) |
| 00:20.37 | beandog | heh, no |
| 00:20.57 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 00:20.57 | beandog | boss asked me to go find access logs for a client from 4 years ago, and I'm like ... whut |
| 00:21.35 | josePHPagoda | :-/ |
| 00:21.52 | beandog | okay I'm going home |
| 00:21.55 | beandog | chaucito |
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| 16:07.55 | josephnexus | oh yeah herlo? |
| 16:07.59 | josephnexus | i have optimus prime! |
| 16:08.01 | josephnexus | :-D |
| 16:08.17 | herlo | josephnexus: you've had that since you were 12 |
| 16:08.33 | herlo | seems like a very rare and dangerous disease to me |
| 16:08.45 | josephnexus | :'( |
| 16:08.50 | herlo | lol |
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| 16:24.52 | mindjuju | fungus, break away from skyrim long enough to join us? |
| 16:24.58 | mindjuju | are you playing at work/? |
| 16:25.04 | fungus | I wish |
| 16:25.19 | fungus | Was up last night till 4am |
| 16:25.26 | mindjuju | that good? |
| 16:25.32 | fungus | oh yes |
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| 16:30.49 | carmony | fungus: Oh man |
| 16:30.52 | carmony | its soooo good |
| 16:30.58 | carmony | I just finished the Dark Brotherhood stuff |
| 16:31.10 | fungus | really? can't wait to do that stuff. |
| 16:31.16 | fungus | I just got my copy last night. |
| 16:31.22 | carmony | PC? |
| 16:31.28 | fungus | ps3 |
| 16:31.31 | carmony | ah |
| 16:31.36 | carmony | still fun :) |
| 16:31.44 | fungus | yes, way fun |
| 16:31.48 | mindjuju | so is it online MMO or single person? |
| 16:31.52 | carmony | single person |
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| 16:35.45 | carmony | fungun: what kind of Char are you playing? |
| 16:36.35 | eggyknap | $weather 84637 |
| 16:36.35 | raifbot | 3eggyknap - 0,2current weather for 84637 - Clear 41f / 5c Humidity: 76% Wind: S at 12 mph |
| 16:37.14 | josephnexus | $weather 83440 |
| 16:37.15 | raifbot | 3josephnexus - 0,2current weather for 83440 - Clear 25f / -4c Humidity: 85% Wind: S at 7 mph |
| 16:37.24 | josephnexus | $weather 111111 |
| 16:37.24 | raifbot | josephnexus - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for 111111 |
| 16:37.31 | josephnexus | ah |
| 16:37.40 | josephnexus | kinda chilly here |
| 16:37.41 | fungus | so far a rouge type. always been a fan of the sneak attacks from previous games. |
| 16:38.13 | carmony | fungus: by the time I was done with my dark brotherhood stuff, my sneak was at 70 |
| 16:38.22 | herlo | fungus: you are coloring on women's face? |
| 16:38.26 | fungus | wow, nice. |
| 16:38.47 | fungus | Did you finish the main quest line first? |
| 16:39.13 | carmony | no, cause I wanted my guy to have better stuff before trying it |
| 16:39.29 | fungus | lol, you are right. |
| 16:39.46 | fungus | my u finger is faster than my g finger |
| 16:40.10 | fungus | carmony, i'm too enthralled in the main quest so far to break off it to do other stuff |
| 16:40.53 | herlo | fungus: you should work on that :) |
| 16:41.27 | josephnexus | that's how sneaky he is |
| 16:41.37 | josephnexus | he's so sneaky, people THINK he's coloring on a woman's face |
| 16:41.41 | josephnexus | it's how he gets around unseen |
| 16:41.44 | josephnexus | :-P |
| 16:42.27 | fungus | lol, fail again |
| 16:42.45 | josephnexus | http://chromercise.com/ |
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| 16:42.59 | josephnexus | fungus, follow that routine, and your fingers will be ready |
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| 16:44.02 | carmony_ | fungus: with my equiptment, perks, ect, if I backstab someone with a dagger I get 30x damage :P |
| 16:44.22 | fungus | yeah, i saw that perk. can't wait. that'd be awesome. |
| 16:44.44 | fungus | too bad sneaking up on dragons is near impossible. |
| 16:45.05 | mindjuju | that's max von sydow voice i think |
| 16:46.30 | fungus | mindjuju, yup, you nailed it. |
| 16:46.33 | fungus | http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Max_von_Sydow |
| 16:46.49 | mindjuju | he's brewmeister smith on Strange Brew |
| 16:47.24 | carmony_ | fungus: have you done much of the main story? |
| 16:47.58 | fungus | Not sure how far I am, but about 7-8 hours into it |
| 16:48.15 | fungus | That's going slowly to take in all the awesomeness. |
| 16:48.26 | carmony_ | fought a dragon yet? |
| 16:48.32 | mindjuju | so is skyrim like GTA in that you get to go around and bust things up and do a mission if you want? |
| 16:48.34 | fungus | mindjuju, he'll always be the master exorcist to me |
| 16:48.36 | mindjuju | or is it linear? |
| 16:48.44 | carmony_ | very very open ended |
| 16:48.56 | fungus | carmony_, 3! |
| 16:49.01 | fungus | I rule |
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| 16:51.14 | carmony_ | fungus: talk to the greybeards yet? |
| 16:51.44 | fungus | Yeah, just finished their tasks |
| 16:52.11 | carmony_ | that is one long hike to get up thre |
| 16:52.12 | carmony_ | there |
| 16:52.27 | fungus | I bought a horse, and rode it. not so bad. ;) |
| 16:53.13 | carmony_ | that... is the smarter aproah |
| 16:53.25 | carmony_ | approach |
| 16:55.09 | fungus | well, i did blow by all the shrine things, so I kinda missed out on a little. |
| 17:00.47 | carmony_ | I do feel this game is harder than oblivion |
| 17:03.17 | fungus | The dragon fights for sure are more involved, but it's not that much harder, IMO |
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| 17:03.39 | carmony_ | I keep running into ice wolfs and ice trolls that kick my but |
| 17:03.41 | carmony_ | butt* |
| 17:03.47 | carmony_ | a lot more often than Oblivion |
| 17:04.16 | fungus | really, haven't found them yet. I keep running into packs of pit wolves |
| 17:04.47 | carmony_ | yeah, though this was when I was out wandering around for fun :P |
| 17:05.06 | fungus | In Oblivion i could kill quite a few guards in a city while naked. In Skyrim i wouldn't dare try |
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| 17:12.45 | mindjuju | i wish skyrim had a shareware version so i could see if it was worth buying |
| 17:13.13 | josephnexus | hi mindjuju |
| 17:13.26 | mindjuju | sup josephscott |
| 17:13.30 | mindjuju | oops, josephnexus |
| 17:13.33 | josephscott | haha |
| 17:13.37 | mindjuju | darn autocomplete |
| 17:13.42 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 17:13.54 | josePHPagoda | i realized, once again, I forgot my new nick again |
| 17:13.56 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 17:13.58 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 17:15.49 | carmony_ | mindjuju: well, if you want, I can lend you my steam account to try :P |
| 17:16.53 | mindjuju | hey, talking about steam carmony_ , did you get th eamil about steam acct being hacked? |
| 17:17.00 | mindjuju | i didn't but read about it everywhere |
| 17:17.15 | carmony_ | I don't think I did either |
| 17:17.19 | carmony_ | but I saw it on their "news |
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| 17:18.11 | mindjuju | oh man, i totally miscalculated something and now i'm in deep |
| 17:18.31 | mindjuju | i was kinda joking when i suggested i go see the new twilight show, but Tiff took me up on it |
| 17:18.49 | mindjuju | seeing teen boys run around without their shirts, scary |
| 17:19.14 | carmony_ | mindjuju: may the force be with you |
| 17:19.25 | utahcon | I convinced my wife to take my mom, so I get to stay home with sleeping kids and my xbox :D |
| 17:19.40 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 17:19.59 | Monnok | my wife doesnt like the series, she hasnt even seen the second one |
| 17:20.18 | josePHPagoda | my wife hates it |
| 17:20.22 | josePHPagoda | so i'm happy |
| 17:20.24 | josePHPagoda | :-D |
| 17:20.27 | josePHPagoda | she's not seen any of them |
| 17:20.28 | mahelious | my friends thought it might be funny to watch one of those movies with the rifftrax. not even mike nelson can make those movies watchable |
| 17:20.29 | josePHPagoda | or read the books |
| 17:21.11 | carmony_ | The youtube mixes are the best way to see the twilight riffs :P |
| 17:22.00 | carmony_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0iOd2piOzg |
| 17:25.51 | mindjuju | oh man carmony, this is scaring me |
| 17:25.57 | mindjuju | is the movie really like this? |
| 17:26.09 | mindjuju | i heard acting was bad, but wow |
| 17:26.13 | carmony_ | have you not seen any of them? |
| 17:26.20 | mindjuju | i've been lucky thus far |
| 17:27.07 | mindjuju | i don't make my wife watch chop socky, or tarintino, she hasn't made me watch this |
| 17:27.46 | mindjuju | until now |
| 17:28.21 | mahelious | the story is recycled teenage angst. the writing is awful, the acting is sub-par and the lead actress reminds me of the ugly girl who hid in the back of the library during pep rallies. |
| 17:28.24 | fungus | Jumping into to twilight at the 4th movie (book) will be really odd, and you probably will hate it even more. |
| 17:29.03 | mindjuju | though i did make her watch mystic warriors of zu mountain |
| 17:29.06 | mahelious | seriously, whats with kristen stewart? shes one of the fugliest people ive seen. how is she leading multi-million dollar movies? |
| 17:29.43 | fungus | because a lot of people have a different opinion. :) |
| 17:29.44 | mindjuju | that's funny, i keep hearing how she does the red carpet faux pas |
| 17:29.57 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 17:30.09 | josePHPagoda | the fact that this conversation is happening in uphpu is what scares me |
| 17:30.09 | mindjuju | carmony, i made it 4:12 into your vid |
| 17:30.12 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 17:30.23 | mindjuju | i think that's enough, even with rifftrax |
| 17:31.42 | mahelious | josePHPagoda: nothing wrong with expanding your horizons, or reporting back if you find out those horizons are pretty crappy |
| 17:33.37 | mindjuju | he's not taking about smoking dope there utahcon |
| 17:33.44 | mindjuju | or at least i don't think he is ;) |
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| 17:34.07 | josePHPagoda | some horizons should never be explored |
| 17:34.13 | utahcon | neither was I |
| 17:34.13 | josePHPagoda | remember, what has been seen, cannot be unseen |
| 17:34.27 | mindjuju | i know, i was just teasin utahcon |
| 17:34.31 | mindjuju | how is the mohawk? |
| 17:34.35 | utahcon | gone |
| 17:34.46 | mindjuju | really? what kind of do you sporting now? |
| 17:34.57 | utahcon | normal "business cut" |
| 17:35.02 | utahcon | but I have a wicked good beard going |
| 17:35.57 | mindjuju | i should grow a beard |
| 17:36.02 | mindjuju | it gets scratchy though |
| 17:36.06 | utahcon | yes they do |
| 17:36.09 | utahcon | but it passes |
| 17:36.29 | mindjuju | so i need to get sick between now and friday, but not thursday night (UPHPU) |
| 17:36.34 | mindjuju | so that id on't have to see the movie |
| 17:36.57 | mindjuju | or at least trigger nagios to go off just befoe the movie |
| 17:37.09 | utahcon | mindjuju: you need a twilio account |
| 17:42.09 | utahcon | create a script that pings you with emergencies on demand :D |
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| 17:48.13 | josePHPagoda | lol |
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| 18:13.31 | brasto | ~lart stupid parents |
| 18:13.31 | ibot | blames stupid parents for all the evil in the world |
| 18:13.40 | mindjuju | ? |
| 18:13.41 | mgeary | ...? |
| 18:13.50 | mindjuju | ^5 mgeary |
| 18:14.09 | mgeary | heh |
| 18:14.13 | mgeary | ^5 |
| 18:14.23 | brasto | lol, just heard about some parents my wife is trying to help... she works for DCFS. With that, you can tell the quality of some of the parents she has to work with. |
| 18:15.01 | brasto | Parents about to lose a kid don't come to a meeting that will decide if they are going to get to keep their child. Parents who choose drugs over children, etc. |
| 18:15.27 | beandog | I'm sure they didn't start out wanting to choose drugs over children. |
| 18:16.08 | beandog | It's not so simple as "gee, I could have a new car, or kids!" |
| 18:16.13 | beandog | man, drugs mess you up. |
| 18:16.19 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 18:16.21 | beandog | addictions are uncontrollable. You just gotta give in. |
| 18:16.37 | beandog | Kids are long term happiness. Drugs are instant gratification. |
| 18:16.44 | josePHPagoda | they are controllable beandog, but it's not easy at all... |
| 18:17.15 | mahelious | Kids may be long term happiness. Drugs are instant gratification. |
| 18:17.27 | beandog | lol, nice clarification mahelious |
| 18:18.45 | brasto | beandog: yes, that's very true. |
| 18:19.29 | beandog | I'll stop selling drugs to them. That'll make everything better. :) |
| 18:19.42 | brasto | lol, right |
| 18:20.07 | mindjuju | I was in the first, i've got to opt out of this one |
| 18:20.12 | beandog | there was a flamewar? |
| 18:20.22 | mindjuju | i just found out i have to build a test env and only have a couple days to do so |
| 18:20.23 | mgeary | ;) |
| 18:20.27 | mindjuju | rofl |
| 18:20.30 | beandog | I dont have cats |
| 18:20.35 | mgeary | beandog: that's how fast i am |
| 18:20.39 | beandog | mindjuju: a test environment? Like a new server? |
| 18:20.52 | mindjuju | new server for devs to test their stuff on |
| 18:21.02 | beandog | what's so hard about that |
| 18:21.27 | mindjuju | there is nothing hard about it, i just need to make sure it lands on time |
| 18:21.58 | beandog | oh, k |
| 18:22.13 | beandog | Ive started writing deployment scripts to speed things up |
| 18:23.26 | macnewbold | brasto: i know what you mean. we have adopted a couple of girls who were born to parents like that. |
| 18:23.27 | beandog | what about this flamewar? I haven't seen anything |
| 18:23.28 | mindjuju | oh beandog, how did that thing go this past weekend? |
| 18:23.38 | macnewbold | ~flame beandog |
| 18:23.38 | ibot | beandog, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 18:23.47 | macnewbold | ~flamewar |
| 18:23.47 | ibot | it has been said that flamewar is that thing between vi and emacs.... Perl vs Python |
| 18:24.38 | beandog | mindjuju: the youth conference? |
| 18:24.39 | mgeary | beandog: it really was about cats and my dislike of them wandering on my lawn |
| 18:24.51 | mindjuju | @beandog, yup - youth conf |
| 18:25.09 | beandog | mgeary: it was awesome, among the most positive experiences of my lie |
| 18:25.10 | beandog | *life |
| 18:25.21 | beandog | mgeary: oh. put out some cardboard boxes for cat traps |
| 18:25.48 | beandog | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/funny-pictures-cat-traps-are-working.jpg |
| 18:26.09 | mindjuju | that's funny |
| 18:26.18 | beandog | mindjuju: it's on my list to blog about that sometime soon |
| 18:26.34 | brasto | macnewbold: Chrystal and I may also adopt children someday who were born to parents like that, but probably not as long as she's still working for DCFS since it would be a conflict of interest. |
| 18:27.03 | beandog | brasto: whys that? Do you get them free with DCFS or something? |
| 18:27.49 | beandog | brasto: that's gotta be a rough job. I'm avoiding social work for that reason. |
| 18:27.52 | mindjuju | because it would be harder to be impartial to the birth parents and allow the children to return to them? |
| 18:28.09 | beandog | It would be way too emotionally draining. Not to mention I'd want to beat people with a lead pipe. |
| 18:28.26 | beandog | Heck, I want to beat people with a lead pipe right now. |
| 18:28.32 | beandog | ~lead mindjuju |
| 18:28.38 | beandog | ~pipe influx |
| 18:28.38 | ibot | ACTION puts influx in his pipe and lights influx up |
| 18:28.45 | beandog | close enough |
| 18:28.48 | brasto | Oh no, beandog, it's because Chrystal has a role in deciding if children get to stay with their parents. She's on the side of trying to get them with their parents if she can, but let's say she pulls them from the parents, then we get some kids from another set of parents... even though it was from another set, it can look bad. So for our own reasons we will probably wait for her to be working somewhere else. |
| 18:29.14 | beandog | brasto: yah, that's what Ive heard, is that here in Utah, there is a strong emphasis on trying to keep the family together instead of pulling them apart. I respect that. |
| 18:29.30 | beandog | brasto: obviously there are cases where that's not an option, and that's sad though. :( I couldn't do that kind of work. |
| 18:31.08 | brasto | Yea, it's really hard for her sometimes. So she talks to me about it, keeping confidentiality of course so that I don't know the names ever, and that helps, but she's been doing it for seven years, so after I get my marriage and family therapy degree in another year, I'm hoping to help her get out of that and into something better. |
| 18:31.41 | brasto | Well, speaking of which, I'm headed out her way, so I'll be back later. We can pick up on the conversation later though. |
| 18:33.04 | beandog | brasto: kk lates |
| 18:33.19 | beandog | brasto: and it's okay, you can tell us it's mindjuju's family. |
| 18:33.31 | beandog | I saw him beat his son with a crack pipe |
| 18:37.31 | mindjuju | beandog you so crazy |
| 18:37.39 | beandog | actually i'm just bored |
| 18:37.55 | beandog | work is bringing in lunch for us today |
| 18:38.04 | mindjuju | domnos? |
| 18:38.10 | beandog | they made us pick our menu items at like 10 a.m., so I haven't been able to think about anything except food since then |
| 18:38.13 | mindjuju | there is an i ni there somewhere |
| 18:38.13 | beandog | tasty thai |
| 18:38.34 | mindjuju | yum |
| 18:38.53 | beandog | I ordered a burger |
| 18:39.10 | mindjuju | thai burger? |
| 18:39.18 | mindjuju | does it have like a peanut sauce ? |
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| 18:39.34 | beandog | yahp |
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| 18:39.50 | beandog | mindjuju: no actually I got some chicken shish-ka-bob or however you spell it |
| 18:41.13 | beandog | man I keep finding hair everywhere. I think it's time to get a haircut |
| 18:45.16 | Monnok | or stop stealing the salon's wifi |
| 18:47.24 | josePHPagoda | beandog: be thankful you have hair to cut |
| 18:47.27 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 18:48.52 | mindjuju | ~poo macnewbold |
| 18:48.52 | ibot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at macnewbold |
| 18:49.45 | macnewbold | ~lart mindjuju |
| 18:49.45 | ibot | beats mindjuju senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 18:50.09 | beandog | heh |
| 18:50.15 | beandog | I knew better than to respond |
| 18:53.42 | mindjuju | ~give beandog his Thai burger with pot stickers |
| 18:53.42 | ibot | ACTION gives his Thai burger with pot stickers to beandog |
| 19:00.44 | mahelious | mmm...soup |
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| 19:34.43 | mindjuju | i wonder if switching to geiko could really save me 15% or more on car insurance |
| 19:40.21 | josePHPagoda | maybe |
| 19:49.25 | mahelious | i switched from allstate a couple years back. went from $1600 to $900 annually |
| 19:50.00 | mahelious | course every company baits you at a low introductory premium, and then adds $50 semi-annually. |
| 19:50.11 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 19:50.14 | optikal | I'm switching away from Geico. They suck horribly at handling claims. Keep in mind that shopping for cheapest car insurance means cheapest benefits, and in some cases, not sufficient enough to properly cover an accident. |
| 19:50.23 | mahelious | so ill probably be switching back to allstate in 3 years or so |
| 19:50.59 | mahelious | optikal: you are right, you have to be careful to get a policy thats sufficient for your needs. |
| 19:51.41 | mahelious | but the honest truth is everyone is terrible at handling claims. state farm, farmers, allstate, progressive, metlife, geico and the rest |
| 19:52.17 | mahelious | no matter who youre with, they arent going to cover the minor stuff and the major stuff will require a lawyer. |
| 19:54.59 | optikal | I know none of them are going to be amazing, but Geico has been in the gutter. I just dealt with trying to get some mechanic work that failed due to a claim I put through in December. Getting ahold of my insurance adjuster, or any of his 3 bosses, is a nightmare. I went almost 2 weeks without hearing a word, and when I did, their verdict was to side with the shoddy mechanic with heinous reasons. |
| 19:56.17 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 19:56.24 | optikal | I'll now be pursuing it legally after resolving the matter myself. For the amount of money I've given them I can almost guarantee I'd have been treated better at a higher class company who doesn't strive on being the cheapest |
| 19:57.23 | mahelious | that sucks. |
| 19:57.31 | optikal | EVEN if they were to give me the finger, at least do it with a smile and in a reasonable amount of time. |
| 19:58.06 | optikal | Anyways, that's my $0.02 on Geico. I'm still pretty butthurt about it obviously, and I wouldn't recommend anyone go to them no matter how much you save. |
| 19:59.25 | optikal | There's a whole slew of other complaints I have from that original claim, but it's mostly related to the mechanic again. Having said that, a lot slipped past the insurance adjuster and it was a pain getting them to reassess and cover it under the same claim. |
| 20:01.31 | josePHPagoda | :-/ |
| 20:01.43 | josePHPagoda | ~geico-- |
| 20:02.39 | mindjuju | i think i'm going to go to the DMV tomorrow morn |
| 20:02.46 | mindjuju | like at 7a (they open at 8) |
| 20:03.34 | mahelious | im going to the dmv as soon as a get a letter from wells fargo. get to remove them from my title. :) |
| 20:04.15 | mindjuju | someone stole my year sticker from off my license plate :( |
| 20:04.21 | mindjuju | i think it's a few bucks to reploace though |
| 20:05.01 | mahelious | they stole your registration sticker? wtf? |
| 20:05.08 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 20:05.22 | josePHPagoda | that's odd |
| 20:05.40 | mindjuju | my neighbor (mechanic) told me next time to slice it up once i put it on there, so that if they try to peel it off, they only get a little bit |
| 20:05.44 | mindjuju | but its no benefit to them |
| 20:06.13 | mahelious | 10 : 1 the idiot gets pulled over for an open container, the cops run his plates and go "huh, this car isnt actually registered" |
| 20:06.32 | mindjuju | true that |
| 20:06.56 | josePHPagoda | that's a good idea |
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| 20:09.26 | mahelious | sometimes i think mandatory military service is just good policy. i lived in switzerland for two years and got to see a little bit of that. its hardly a perfect society, but it is hard to argue with their unemployment and crime stats. |
| 20:21.04 | mgeary | and their chocolate and scenery |
| 20:21.16 | itimber | and banks |
| 20:21.18 | itimber | hehe |
| 20:21.20 | mgeary | well |
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| 20:36.02 | mindjuju | hey fungus, is there bad mojo in powering a SATA drive using something else than the computer it is plugged into? |
| 20:36.17 | mindjuju | i'm thinking no |
| 20:36.34 | mindjuju | i guess not cause eSATA is doing that same thing |
| 20:36.41 | fungus | temporary or hackish purposes, not a problem. Though not production IMHO |
| 20:37.05 | mindjuju | it's for a production server, that needs to be cloned, so it will only be that way for a couple hours |
| 20:37.17 | fungus | Yeah, no big deal |
| 20:37.26 | jsmith | mindjuju: You worry too much |
| 20:38.41 | fungus | The only real problem is when the drive shuts off when the computer is still trying to write to it. Bad things can happen then. |
| 20:41.45 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju: you should be ok |
| 20:41.51 | josePHPagoda | so long as you remember where it's power comes from |
| 20:43.34 | fungus | don't plug it into an outlet controlled by a light switch. :) |
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| 21:13.43 | mindjuju | so fungus et al., here is what i'm trying to do (jsmith, i should stop worrying, huh?) |
| 21:14.03 | mindjuju | I've got a production server that needs to be cloned where the clone is made into a dev env |
| 21:14.25 | mindjuju | now, the server is a Dell PE 1950, has 2 hdd and they are in RAID 1 |
| 21:14.42 | jsmith | mindjuju: Following you so far... |
| 21:14.44 | mindjuju | i should be able to pull one of the drives out, put it into an identical server |
| 21:15.01 | mindjuju | and give both servers new drives, both of them rebuild the RAID set and i'm a happy camper |
| 21:15.20 | mindjuju | provided they aren't both on the network at the same time |
| 21:15.26 | mindjuju | because of IP conflict, etc |
| 21:15.49 | mindjuju | i've never used a RAID in this way before, but i think its right, isn't it? |
| 21:16.37 | mindjuju | seems like the RAID controller offers some kind of scan the hdd for the raidset data, not sure |
| 21:16.43 | josePHPagoda | seems like that would work |
| 21:16.44 | fungus | mindjuju, yes it can work with very careful RAID setup on the destination server |
| 21:17.06 | fungus | Are the raid controllers the same? |
| 21:17.31 | mindjuju | yes |
| 21:17.48 | fungus | is it a PERC? |
| 21:18.37 | mindjuju | i'm going to be honest here, i'm not sure |
| 21:18.50 | mindjuju | i'm looking at that card, and i know these servers don't have cards |
| 21:19.02 | mindjuju | thought it could be onboard |
| 21:19.08 | fungus | did the raid card come with the server? |
| 21:19.30 | mindjuju | i'm going to go check on the spare |
| 21:19.32 | fungus | anyway, it's likely a Dell PERC of somesort |
| 21:19.41 | mindjuju | does that make it easier or harder? |
| 21:19.59 | fungus | It means you need to configure the RAID on the destination server |
| 21:20.59 | fungus | You'll create a new mirror volume, with only 1 drive initially, carefully making sure you unselect initializing (wipe) the drive. |
| 21:21.09 | mindjuju | k |
| 21:21.32 | fungus | Then, only after you have confirmed it works, add the second drive to make it re-mirror |
| 21:21.54 | mindjuju | k |
| 21:22.32 | fungus | Have you considered some form of virtualization? |
| 21:23.23 | mindjuju | i was starting that way, but the boss wants to go this way, can you virtualize on a live production server? |
| 21:23.35 | mindjuju | without taking it down? |
| 21:24.23 | fungus | no. build a new machine with virtualization, and create a production Virtual machine on it. |
| 21:27.19 | fungus | Your cloning method can work for now. But I suggest investigating virtualization for additional future flexibility, productivity. |
| 21:36.11 | mindjuju | HERLO! |
| 21:36.16 | mindjuju | ~apb herlo |
| 21:36.16 | ibot | ACTION calls Leland to find herlo |
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| 21:38.35 | Heartsbane | mindjuju: I think he is enjoying his b-day |
| 21:38.44 | mindjuju | i know, i was going to say that! |
| 21:38.55 | Heartsbane | oh ok |
| 21:39.01 | mindjuju | i forgot it was today |
| 21:39.45 | herlo | mindjuju: pong |
| 21:42.28 | mindjuju | happy bday bro! |
| 21:42.34 | mindjuju | herlo^^ |
| 21:42.51 | herlo | mindjuju: thanks man! |
| 21:42.52 | mindjuju | i read this news article about a virus on FB, go to take a gander and there it is, clint bday |
| 21:42.56 | herlo | yours is coming up soon isn't it? |
| 21:43.07 | mindjuju | nope, you're older than me by like 6 mnths |
| 21:43.07 | herlo | like February or something? |
| 21:43.11 | mindjuju | june |
| 21:43.27 | mindjuju | did you get good stuff for your bday? |
| 21:43.28 | herlo | oh, you are a youngn :) |
| 21:43.34 | herlo | mindjuju: yeah, got a new suitcase :) |
| 21:43.39 | herlo | and a nice breakfast with the fam |
| 21:43.43 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:44.00 | herlo | stupid airlines think I have to have a smaller bag |
| 21:44.09 | herlo | but it's really nice |
| 21:44.18 | herlo | and I learned a new way to pack today as well |
| 21:44.21 | herlo | very intriguing |
| 21:44.34 | mindjuju | i prefer jansport for airline travel, though i haven't traveld since before the turn of the century |
| 21:45.00 | Heartsbane | 0.0 |
| 21:45.08 | mindjuju | They have one that fits in the upper compartment, that counts as a carry on, and is HUGE |
| 21:45.14 | herlo | oh, this one is much nicer than jansport |
| 21:46.35 | herlo | it's briggs and riley |
| 21:47.08 | mindjuju | very cool! |
| 21:47.15 | mindjuju | (me checks them out at amazon.com) |
| 21:47.19 | herlo | http://sn.i |
| 21:47.21 | herlo | oops |
| 21:47.25 | herlo | http://sn.im/2ono2n |
| 21:47.30 | herlo | that's close to the one I got |
| 21:47.39 | herlo | it didn't cost that much |
| 21:47.54 | herlo | they have a lifetime warranty |
| 21:48.50 | herlo | this one has a bit more flared legs and though you can't see it a mesh section on the top that can hold books, papers, coats, etc |
| 21:49.14 | mindjuju | that's cool! with as much travel you do, this will come in handy :) |
| 21:49.49 | herlo | indeed |
| 21:50.02 | herlo | I'm excited to try out the new packing method this coming week too |
| 22:00.17 | beandog | herlo: happy birthday! |
| 22:00.36 | herlo | beandog: thanks man! |
| 22:00.41 | beandog | herlo: whatd you get |
| 22:01.11 | herlo | a suitcase and breakfast so far |
| 22:01.26 | herlo | oh, and I got $5 from my folks :) |
| 22:01.52 | Heartsbane | lol |
| 22:02.23 | herlo | Heartsbane: does it sound familiar? |
| 22:03.10 | Heartsbane | yes |
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