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| 00:29.58 | influx | NOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 00:30.01 | influx | :( |
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| 04:08.17 | Utah_Dave | hey josephscott, are you around? |
| 04:08.25 | josephscott | Utah_Dave: yep, what's up? |
| 04:08.41 | Utah_Dave | I have a WP question. |
| 04:08.59 | Utah_Dave | so my sister-in-law finally decided to start selling some stuff she makes |
| 04:09.00 | josephscott | fire away |
| 04:09.54 | Utah_Dave | She went and signed up at wordpress.com and bought a custom domain during the signup process. She did that all by herself. so far so good |
| 04:10.13 | Utah_Dave | So now she'd like to do a little paypal integration. |
| 04:10.24 | Utah_Dave | What would be the best way to go about that? |
| 04:11.28 | Utah_Dave | I know you can create html snippets in paypal.com to add a single item to buy, but she'd kind of like to have a simple shopping cart. |
| 04:13.14 | Utah_Dave | Is wordpress.com the right place for her to be? |
| 04:17.09 | Utah_Dave | Also, with the domain she bought through wordpress.com can she control the dns? Like if I want to set up an email server for her or something. |
| 04:26.16 | josephscott | sorry for the delay |
| 04:26.39 | josephscott | wordpress.com is probably not the place for that, I don't think that we allow for that kind of integration |
| 04:27.06 | Utah_Dave | that's kind of what I was thinking. |
| 04:27.23 | macnewbold | i don't think you can sell stuff from wp.com, but you can grab the latest from wp.org and host it yourself and set that up relatively easily |
| 04:27.56 | josephscott | there are some docs on domains - http://en.support.wordpress.com/domain-mapping/domain-management/ is one |
| 04:30.22 | Utah_Dave | OK, thanks. I'll look at that. |
| 04:31.51 | josephscott | if you run into problems, I know some people who can help :-) |
| 04:32.35 | Utah_Dave | thanks! |
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| 14:58.05 | beandog | monin |
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| 15:06.10 | herlo | mindjuju: pong |
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| 15:59.48 | beandog | Okay here's a new one for me |
| 16:00.04 | beandog | What do you put in a VirtualHost in Apache if they are hitting the IP address |
| 16:00.13 | beandog | ServerAlias didn't work |
| 16:00.24 | beandog | and by hitting the ip address I mean http://1.2.3.4 |
| 16:04.15 | TuxToaster | ServerName? |
| 16:05.57 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: if they goto the ip they should get the first vhost defined |
| 16:06.21 | beandog | yah that's what it looks like its doing |
| 16:06.26 | TuxToaster | well, the first vhost defined with that IP in the tag |
| 16:07.08 | TuxToaster | if you have multiple IPs and you want a specific host for that IP, youd' have to do <VirtualHost 1.2.3.4:80> |
| 16:07.12 | TuxToaster | I think |
| 16:12.32 | beandog | Well they all have that VirtualHost code anyway, they have to since I have multiple IPs |
| 16:12.40 | beandog | then I just do ServerName |
| 16:12.46 | beandog | anyway, it doesn't really matter, but I was curious. |
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| 16:20.34 | TuxToaster | I've always found virtualhosting in Apache to be finicky in how it works. Seemed like I was always playing with various combinations of <VirtualHost> directives and NameVIrtualHost entries to get it to work the way I needed it to. |
| 16:23.24 | beandog | TuxToaster: agreed |
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| 16:45.41 | josephscott | snow, of course, welcome to winter |
| 16:45.44 | josephscott | $weather 84092 |
| 16:45.45 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for 84092 - Overcast 36f / 2c Humidity: 93% Wind: W at 8 mph |
| 16:46.03 | josephscott | google gives some rough weather itesm |
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| 16:53.12 | unum | josephscott: is that you work or home zip code |
| 16:53.15 | TuxToaster | http://imgur.com/EuN1N |
| 16:53.33 | josephscott | unum: both :-) |
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| 17:10.53 | mindjuju | i may not have agreed with some of his business ideas, but the man did some awesome things |
| 17:34.46 | josephscott | It is safe to say that if you're involved in technology today, a part of life has been shaped by Steve Jobs. No matter what you think of his company or products |
| 17:38.49 | TuxToaster | +1 |
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| 18:12.34 | SunSparc | Best practice for blog post comments: Is it best to store the commentors name in the comment, or look it up every time the comment is loaded, in case the name has changed? |
| 18:13.47 | influx | The former, I imagine. |
| 18:13.54 | influx | Less to look up. |
| 18:15.42 | optikal | If you combine everything into one SQL query then you're not really adding any more load to look the name up each time. |
| 18:16.05 | optikal | I'd just store the user ID with the comment, then lookup the visible name based on the ID in the same query that grabs the comment |
| 18:16.57 | SunSparc | influx: That is what I was thinking. |
| 18:17.03 | optikal | I also don't like forums/blogs that do the former and reflect the information at the time of the post, rather than what's presently accurate (name, post count, etc) |
| 18:17.22 | SunSparc | optikal: Yes, that is how I am doing it currently. user_id in comment |
| 18:18.13 | SunSparc | optikal: Yes, that is a consideration also. The reason I would consider taking a snapshot of the name is because, what if that user deletes their account, or something else. |
| 18:18.36 | SunSparc | Then that brings up the question of whether comments stay, or leave with the user. |
| 18:18.48 | optikal | Comment should always stay, or you're losing content |
| 18:18.55 | SunSparc | Or perhaps a deleted user is never actually deleted, just disabled. |
| 18:19.02 | SunSparc | optikal: exactly |
| 18:19.05 | optikal | I'd suggest leaving comment and when user_id doesn't exist, display [User deleted] |
| 18:19.08 | optikal | or whatnot |
| 18:19.16 | SunSparc | Hmmm... |
| 18:19.29 | optikal | Yeah, you could flag the user and leave it too... more a personal preference there |
| 18:19.51 | optikal | If people are often going to lookup users, I'd go with the deleting the user to avoid a run around/unneeded click just to find out they don't exist |
| 18:20.10 | SunSparc | Yeah |
| 18:20.10 | optikal | But if you want the comment attached to the person forever, then you may want to go the other route |
| 18:20.25 | SunSparc | Ok, good things to think about. Thanks guys. |
| 18:20.32 | SunSparc | ~influx++ |
| 18:20.37 | SunSparc | ~optikal++ |
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| 18:43.55 | Utah_Dave | When using bitwise operators is ^ the opposite of &? |
| 18:48.14 | mindjuju | let's see, bitwise, the only person i remember talking about bitmasks etc is stderr-_ |
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| 19:19.50 | jtsnow | Utah_Dave: I suppose you could say it's the opposite. $a ^ $b should be the same as ~($a & $b) |
| 19:20.25 | Utah_Dave | ok, that's what I'm hoping. |
| 19:23.49 | jtsnow | Utah_Dave: actually, that's wrong. $a ^ $b is the same as $a & ~$b |
| 19:24.33 | Utah_Dave | so the bits set in $a are not set in $b |
| 19:24.35 | jtsnow | or not... best way is to draw a truth table |
| 19:28.11 | jtsnow | $a ^ $b == ($a & ~$b) | (~$a & $b) |
| 19:28.17 | jtsnow | there |
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| 20:55.30 | josePHPagoda | hi all! |
| 20:58.31 | mindjuju | anybody know any good deployment plan software? |
| 20:58.51 | josePHPagoda | deployment plan.... |
| 20:59.02 | mindjuju | ~give josePHPagoda a comfy chair and some sunglasses |
| 20:59.02 | ibot | ACTION gives a comfy chair and some sunglasses to josePHPagoda |
| 21:00.53 | josePHPagoda | what do you mean by... deployment plan |
| 21:01.33 | mindjuju | template used to write out the steps you're going to take to deploy out software/hardware |
| 21:01.58 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:02.15 | josePHPagoda | i usually manage it like any other project |
| 21:02.23 | josePHPagoda | so whatever your favorite project management software is |
| 21:03.12 | mindjuju | so i manage my projects in redmine, but what if on rollout, you've got 50 ~ 100 steps of points that need to be hit to make the deployment successful |
| 21:03.58 | josePHPagoda | no replacement for paper.... |
| 21:04.01 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:04.03 | josePHPagoda | checklists rock |
| 21:04.05 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:04.23 | josePHPagoda | i don't know, i'd need to know more about what you are trying to do and what conditions you anticipate running into |
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| 21:25.20 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I always do my deployment plans in a document, then actually print it out and check off items as we go. |
| 21:26.05 | Utah_Dave | Sometimes items in that checklist get added to any deployment scripts that we might be using, too. |
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| 21:39.05 | mindjuju | that's scary josephscott |
| 21:39.15 | josephscott | ? |
| 21:39.20 | mindjuju | the picture of snow |
| 21:39.34 | beandog | mindjuju: I have one |
| 21:39.36 | josephscott | oh, yeah, didn't expect that |
| 21:39.36 | beandog | wanna see it? |
| 21:39.53 | mindjuju | @utah_dave, maybe i'm making this more difficult than needed |
| 21:40.01 | beandog | It might not fit to your specs, but hey |
| 21:40.15 | mindjuju | but i was hoping to have something that had fallback options |
| 21:40.19 | mindjuju | beandog, i'd love to see it |
| 21:40.25 | beandog | mindjuju: k, gimme your email |
| 21:40.53 | mindjuju | PMd |
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| 22:11.56 | mindjuju | so i just want to make sure i'm understanding something |
| 22:12.34 | mindjuju | ifup eth0:1 is enabling the alias, ifdown eth0:1 is disable, does network services need restart? |
| 22:28.00 | herlo | um, no |
| 22:28.22 | herlo | but if you want to actually bring the whole device eth0 down, you would likely restart the network |
| 22:28.31 | herlo | along with any other network devices |
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| 22:57.09 | fridgesm | Hey, does anyone here have something more Linux-oriented that they could present on to PLUG? |
| 22:57.13 | herlo | I'm getting hungry! |
| 22:57.30 | herlo | fridgesm: I'd love to present, but I can't this month |
| 22:57.50 | fridgesm | I tried to get GoOSe Linux, but they're not available for PLUG's timeslot |
| 22:57.59 | herlo | fridgesm: yeah, I'm one of those |
| 22:58.09 | fridgesm | oh right :) |
| 22:58.25 | herlo | :) the two of us who live in Utah that could talk about it are on the road tha tweek |
| 22:58.36 | herlo | s/a t/at / |
| 22:59.04 | herlo | fridgesm: if it were the third week.... |
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| 23:19.24 | influx | aroo |
| 23:58.05 | herlo | ? |