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| 00:51.56 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: hows Rocket |
| 00:52.12 | DexterTheDragon | a little mopey |
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| 15:38.21 | influx | https://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/mysql-closer-to-closed |
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| 16:05.19 | josephscott | if you are looking for something to be upset about :-) http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-10-11/1A-state-lawmakers-pump-pensions/50522036/1 |
| 16:09.41 | mindjuju | the world is a nutty place, somebody stop the rotation, i want to get off |
| 16:10.10 | mindjuju | i can't believe that 2 of the fullerton cops get charged with homeless guy death, and the other four either milling around or holding the guy don't |
| 16:10.28 | mindjuju | that they were within earshot shoudl have been grounds enough for charges |
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| 16:24.42 | mindjuju | i know who influx is voting for, for president - http://www.collegehumor.com/picture/6613403/cthulhu-for-president |
| 16:25.05 | macnewbold | it would be an upgrade, no? |
| 16:25.21 | mindjuju | at least he'd be honest about what he'd do whilst in office |
| 16:29.29 | macnewbold | people underestimate the value of that |
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| 18:06.23 | mindjuju | so has anybody figured out where that lump of junk is going to fall? |
| 18:07.00 | mindjuju | jsmith |
| 18:07.14 | mindjuju | The space agency now says the U.S. is back as a possible âlanding siteâ for the satellite. As it gets closer to impact, NASA now says the 6.5-ton behemoth will fall to earth sometime Friday or Saturday ET. |
| 18:07.25 | jsmith | mindjuju: I haven't followed it today... |
| 18:07.34 | mindjuju | i know its not Fox News, but its prolly newsworthy still |
| 18:07.38 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 18:07.57 | mindjuju | {as if the other news outlets were any better :( |
| 18:08.14 | jsmith | Fox had the tracker applet |
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| 18:39.08 | mindjuju | go get 'em Neil! http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-09-neil-armstrong-space.html |
| 18:40.58 | unum | I have mixed feelings about manned space flight |
| 18:41.30 | unum | of course as with most political discussions it comes back to at point should we take the money out of the economony and does that really matter |
| 18:41.47 | unum | actually I do think it matters.... |
| 18:41.58 | mindjuju | return of investment on space program i think was x5 |
| 18:41.59 | unum | I'm just not sure the best place to pull it out of |
| 18:42.06 | unum | WAS |
| 18:42.25 | unum | and that depends on who's numbers you believe |
| 18:42.36 | unum | with economics it's always about who's number you believe |
| 18:42.41 | mindjuju | you've read different? |
| 18:43.47 | mindjuju | i don't mind a general skepticism, but i don't think i've ever read to the contrary on the roi of space, if you've seen it, i'd love to read it |
| 18:49.03 | unum | it's true I can't find anyone disputing that, but then why is this even an issue? |
| 18:49.27 | unum | all I can find are NASA studies supporting it...... |
| 18:50.17 | mindjuju | i think its becoming an issue because as a whole, we've become short-sighted |
| 18:50.22 | unum | I think we should contact senator Mike Lee and DEMAND that he support elimating all government involvement in space flight so that the free market will make it happen ;) |
| 18:51.17 | mindjuju | here is an interesting forum where space is discussed, so pro statements, some con - http://www.freakonomics.com/2008/01/11/is-space-exploration-worth-the-cost-a-freakonomics-quorum/ |
| 18:51.25 | unum | it's part of the republican "starve the beast strategy" |
| 18:51.32 | unum | mindjuju: both nasa employees |
| 18:51.34 | unum | I saw that one |
| 18:51.51 | unum | I mean all four of them |
| 18:52.24 | mindjuju | did you see keith cowing talking about carl sagan's quote? |
| 18:52.32 | mindjuju | âyou donât need to go to Mars to cure cancer.â |
| 18:52.42 | mindjuju | â If you learn how to do that as a side benefit, well, thatâs great, but there are probably more cost effective ways to get all of these spinoffs without leaving Earth. |
| 18:53.21 | mindjuju | to which he counterpoints ... |
| 18:53.22 | mindjuju | If we Americans do not think so, then why is it that nations such as China and India â nations with far greater social welfare issues to address with their limited budgets â are speeding up their space exploration programs? |
| 18:53.42 | mindjuju | and concludes ... As such, my response is another question: for the U.S. in the twenty-first century, is not sending humans into space worth the cost? |
| 18:53.49 | unum | because they don't care about their people? |
| 18:53.58 | unum | China runs their people over with tanks |
| 18:54.03 | unum | not exactly a model government |
| 18:54.26 | mindjuju | so you believe China is doing it because of ... |
| 18:54.31 | unum | now I'm convinced the other way...... |
| 18:54.33 | mindjuju | nothing else to spend money on? |
| 18:55.47 | unum | I believe china is doing it for national pride |
| 18:56.01 | unum | one of the main reasons we went to the moon |
| 18:57.04 | unum | really I'd be happy if everyone in the US had good oppurtunities for education, had enough to eat, had health care, and we went to mars |
| 18:57.30 | unum | but personally I don't have enough money to make that happen |
| 18:57.32 | mindjuju | so unum, i'm just curious here, what was the last programming language you learned? |
| 18:57.52 | mindjuju | and how long ago was it? |
| 18:58.02 | unum | java in may |
| 18:58.12 | mindjuju | fair enough, why did you do that? |
| 18:58.29 | unum | in order to write android apps for my employer |
| 18:59.03 | mindjuju | sure, makes sense to me. i do the same. why shouldn't our nation fall in your footsteps of expanding what's possible? |
| 18:59.28 | mindjuju | if you didn't pick up java, then you'd offer less to your employer, continue that path, and you'll find yourself out of a job |
| 18:59.42 | mindjuju | right? |
| 18:59.56 | unum | actually I just quite my job in order to take a job where I could specialize |
| 19:00.10 | unum | because I felt my current employer is setting me up to fail by expecting too much |
| 19:00.14 | unum | that's a true story |
| 19:00.26 | mindjuju | even the process of specializing, gaining additional knowledge in a field, is self improvement |
| 19:01.02 | unum | true |
| 19:01.07 | mindjuju | i'm not really here to argue with you or try to convince you i'm right and your wrong, i'm wondering if we can get to a compromise that those things you mentioned are important and that this is important too |
| 19:01.08 | unum | but you need to know what you can handle |
| 19:01.32 | mindjuju | we should allocate some to both needs and compromise neither |
| 19:01.36 | unum | really I agree with you and like the idea of space exploration |
| 19:01.48 | unum | I guess it's really that I don't think that's most important fight right onw |
| 19:02.05 | unum | but ya it would be nice to allocate resources to both |
| 19:02.42 | unum | but then we come back to where do we get those resource |
| 19:02.43 | unum | s |
| 19:03.05 | mindjuju | i prolly drive mgeary batty with all the education stuff i ask him, but its hard for me to seperate advanced sciences/math from education, and if we want to have a hope for the future, we've got to raise the bar for education |
| 19:04.24 | mindjuju | unum, i think we've got to do some prioritizing and some compromising on those issues of allocating resources. i don't agree with all the social services we offer, but i agree that i've got to compromise about it |
| 19:04.50 | unum | I'd really like to see the lugs be more involved in lobbying on behalf of education |
| 19:05.08 | unum | which social services would you eliminate? |
| 19:05.59 | unum | SSI?medicaid?unemployment?housing subsidies?heat subsidies?food stamps?wic? |
| 19:06.10 | unum | there's about 15 federal programs |
| 19:06.20 | unum | you can also include job corps |
| 19:06.28 | unum | pell grants |
| 19:06.30 | unum | student loans |
| 19:06.34 | mindjuju | fire, school, police, utopia |
| 19:06.37 | mindjuju | i get it |
| 19:07.20 | mindjuju | which to remove? i guess i wasn't clear. i'm not ready to decide, i'm ready to get together and compromise |
| 19:08.50 | mindjuju | i ask people without kids to pay school tax so my son can go cheaper, i've got to be willing to pay some stuff for his/her benefit to |
| 19:08.56 | mindjuju | even if it has no direct application to me |
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| 19:10.52 | unum | I know several people with a severe disability who are on 13 different federal programs on of them called me a few weeks ago and talk me about the "debt crisis" her solution was to kick all of the "illegal immigrants" off of the same programs she uses |
| 19:11.12 | unum | I'm not saying the programs can't be better and that there isn't fraud |
| 19:11.31 | unum | but ya it would be nice if we could discuss it rationally |
| 19:11.45 | unum | rather then everyone deciding their spending is needed and everything else is pork |
| 19:12.18 | unum | most of my family is small government republicans. Out of 7 people guess who is not on a health care plan paid for by the federal government |
| 19:12.31 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:12.34 | unum | drives me crazy |
| 19:12.40 | mindjuju | touche, i've got one of those in my family too |
| 19:13.42 | unum | Senator Lee identified himself as a free market republican while chewing out Eric Schmidt for how google handled search results |
| 19:13.54 | mindjuju | yeah, i saw a couple days ago |
| 19:14.07 | mindjuju | he also took money from microsoft PAC |
| 19:14.20 | mindjuju | frustrating, not alleging that he can be bought for $5k |
| 19:14.28 | mindjuju | but its not good to have that |
| 19:14.56 | mindjuju | like hatch taking $$ from RIAA and then doing dmca, though i don't honeswtly remember which came first, the money or the dmca |
| 19:14.58 | unum | Eric Schmidt is a huge supporter of the President |
| 19:15.06 | unum | which is probably more the reason he chewed him out |
| 19:15.26 | unum | what really gets me is that the president signed that patent law which was opposed by google |
| 19:15.38 | unum | he's not even listening to the people who gave him money..... |
| 19:16.40 | unum | but anyways |
| 19:17.15 | unum | I was going to go before the state education comittee and talk about actually setting a curriculmn that met the state's education department technology goals |
| 19:17.27 | unum | but I think I dropped the ball and that failed |
| 19:17.58 | unum | i tried to talk to the head of the state's technology curiculmn but he didn't return my email |
| 19:18.01 | unum | I tried to be nice.... |
| 19:19.01 | unum | oooh they've update the site.... |
| 19:19.42 | mindjuju | what is url? |
| 19:20.26 | unum | http://www.uen.org/core/ |
| 19:21.21 | mindjuju | hmm, i haven't seen this before |
| 19:21.42 | unum | actually I don't think that's the page I wanted |
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| 19:24.08 | unum | I once found a page that said the thing that a high school graduate should know about computers |
| 19:24.21 | unum | it was on the state education office site not uen |
| 19:24.40 | unum | and I thought that the list was good, but was curious how it was being taught |
| 19:24.49 | mindjuju | this is actually pretty good for me unum, been looking for expected understanding of a grade level so that i could better supplement what was being taught |
| 19:25.11 | mindjuju | that would be good to see too |
| 19:25.37 | unum | I don't think everyone needs to be a computer programmer but there are few jobs were you won't be using a computer |
| 19:25.58 | unum | and I think a point and click education is doing a disservice to our economny |
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| 20:25.36 | ninnypants | cool idea http://courtside.me/ |
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| 20:27.52 | mindjuju | i put in my zip and it's showing me a soccer game in kansas :( |
| 20:31.55 | mindjuju | anybody looking for a 32 GB microSDHC for only $30 look here - http://1saleaday.com/ |
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| 21:28.24 | ninnypants | mindjuju: it's probably the closest game |
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| 21:44.28 | dharmatech | anyone headed to api hackday tomorrow? |
| 21:45.24 | ninnypants | yeah I signed up for it but I don't think I'll go |
| 21:47.15 | dharmatech | I'm on the fence. Nothing else really going on but also not entirely motivated to trek to south jordan. |
| 21:50.05 | ninnypants | it sounded really cool and there are a lot of prizes but I think I'm going to take the dogs hiking instead |
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| 22:10.54 | mindjuju | so does this look like the kind of company that would flood wordpress comment spam? |
| 22:11.29 | mindjuju | trying to decide if i should just block their IP stack and move on or email them to let them know they likely have computers with viruses? |
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| 22:18.00 | josephscott | $rlart |
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| 22:33.20 | mindjuju | i can't believe it's 4:30p on friday |
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| 22:35.10 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I can't believe I'm still working at 4:30 on friday |
| 22:41.14 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 22:41.18 | macnewbold | or dislikes |
| 22:41.19 | TuxToaster | doh. |
| 22:41.24 | TuxToaster | ~rlart |
| 22:41.24 | ibot | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to ninnypants, and goes postal |
| 22:41.46 | TuxToaster | at least ibot is an equal opportunity larter :P |
| 22:41.51 | macnewbold | ~summon raifbot |
| 22:41.51 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing raifbot's coordinates |
| 22:41.58 | TuxToaster | lmao |
| 22:44.50 | beandog | whut |
| 22:45.07 | beandog | anybody here play LittleBigPlanet |
| 22:45.39 | TuxToaster | I don't, but my kid has a few times |
| 22:47.33 | beandog | that game is really fun with multiplayer |
| 22:54.18 | ninnypants | yeah I really liked the multiplayer |
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| 23:07.40 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:07.40 | raifbot | cats /dev/urandom into ninnypants's ear. |
| 23:07.43 | beandog | yarr |
| 23:07.54 | beandog | heh, thats awesome. |
| 23:11.44 | mindjuju | i'm trying to decide what i want for dinner, panda express or homemade fajitas (that i have to cook) |
| 23:12.03 | beandog | oh crap that reminds me, I turned on the oven |
| 23:12.12 | mindjuju | what serious? |
| 23:12.18 | mindjuju | i hope your at home |
| 23:12.36 | mindjuju | if not, you can live in my food storage room |
| 23:13.01 | *** join/#uphpu PoeticIntensity (~jason@76.8.222.23) |
| 23:13.01 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v PoeticIntensity] by ChanServ |
| 23:14.11 | mindjuju | oops, satch, not stach |
| 23:14.15 | PoeticIntensity | ahhh satch... |
| 23:14.20 | PoeticIntensity | dude... I love War. |
| 23:14.23 | PoeticIntensity | such a great tune. |
| 23:14.30 | mindjuju | i cant find that car video you did with beandog |
| 23:14.34 | beandog | mindjuju: don't make offers you can't keep (or will regret) |
| 23:14.42 | beandog | I would totally take you up on that |
| 23:14.52 | mindjuju | flour bags could be comfy |
| 23:15.13 | mindjuju | d00d, if your house went down in a blaze of glory, i would totally let you stay |
| 23:15.19 | PoeticIntensity | hmmm.... |
| 23:15.21 | beandog | not a blaze of glory |
| 23:15.22 | PoeticIntensity | I wonder where that went? |
| 23:15.24 | beandog | just a blaze. |
| 23:15.42 | mindjuju | pi, it ws here http://video.google.com/ |
| 23:15.47 | mindjuju | but i cant remember what to look up |
| 23:15.54 | beandog | I have pictures somewhere of when my car got stuck in the salt flats |
| 23:16.07 | beandog | with my wheels a foot and a half in the ground |
| 23:16.37 | mindjuju | wait, there is a pi channel on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/user/PoeticIntensity |
| 23:16.41 | mindjuju | when did that happen? |
| 23:17.15 | beandog | uh |
| 23:17.16 | beandog | last year? |
| 23:17.21 | PoeticIntensity | oh..... yeah.. uhh... sometime ago. |
| 23:17.24 | PoeticIntensity | no idea what's up there. |
| 23:17.25 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 23:18.02 | mindjuju | you apparently have on homage to steve balmer |
| 23:18.38 | beandog | that seems fitting for PoeticIntensity |
| 23:18.48 | mindjuju | ~poeticintensity |
| 23:18.48 | ibot | [poeticintensity] the proud owner of a Black 2007 Mustang GT. not Poetic, although he can be Intense, or sporting a mohawk, or rumored to be a sound engineer, or the fastest drivin geek in utah |
| 23:19.09 | mindjuju | i think thems all true |
| 23:19.45 | beandog | once. |
| 23:19.53 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 23:20.08 | beandog | hmm sounds like another body fell upstairs |
| 23:20.38 | beandog | mindjuju: yah |
| 23:20.40 | beandog | mindjuju: I got lucky |
| 23:20.42 | beandog | beat PoeticIntensity once |
| 23:21.06 | PoeticIntensity | hah. |
| 23:21.08 | mindjuju | i passed up a viper in a sedan, it was funny cause i was trying to get somewhere fast and i looked over and the driver and eye locked eyes for a moment, both incredulous that i just passed him, about .2 seconds later he flew passed me |
| 23:21.30 | mindjuju | but i can say i passed him first |
| 23:21.35 | beandog | awesome |
| 23:21.48 | beandog | ibot: mindjuju is also can beat a viper in a sedan |
| 23:21.48 | ibot | beandog: okay |
| 23:21.53 | beandog | ~mindjuju |
| 23:21.53 | ibot | mindjuju is probably sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms, or likes ponicals, or listens to celine dijon. DJ Nerd Magic, or can't tell toast from a pop-tart, or can beat a viper in a sedan |
| 23:22.07 | mindjuju | tha'ts true about my left eye, btw |
| 23:22.20 | beandog | they're all true |
| 23:22.50 | mindjuju | i unequivocally deny the celine dijon comment |
| 23:22.51 | beandog | did you notice that PoeticIntensity didn't deny it? |
| 23:22.56 | beandog | mindjuju: I remember it |
| 23:23.07 | mindjuju | ah dag! |
| 23:23.39 | beandog | hit the trail, bucky |
| 23:26.49 | beandog | ~summon fungus |
| 23:26.50 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing fungus's coordinates |
| 23:27.01 | fungus | Nope, I don't have LBP |
| 23:27.12 | beandog | fungus: what games did you get after the psn outage? |
| 23:27.34 | mindjuju | he got care bears and hello kitty adventure island |
| 23:27.39 | beandog | lol |
| 23:27.43 | fungus | infamous |
| 23:27.55 | beandog | fungus: was that it? you get two |
| 23:28.28 | fungus | I only got one because it borked when i tried to get the second one. |
| 23:28.35 | beandog | doh la la |
| 23:28.38 | mindjuju | ah dag |
| 23:28.38 | fungus | But I didn't want any others, so I didn't care. |
| 23:32.10 | beandog | fungus: next movie night we'll play some :D |
| 23:32.34 | mindjuju | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 23:33.00 | beandog | heh |
| 23:33.07 | mindjuju | have you seen that vid where they play darth vader Nooo! oto a whole bunch of movies? |
| 23:33.09 | mindjuju | way funny |
| 23:33.10 | beandog | mindjuju: did you read about the extra changes made |
| 23:33.25 | mindjuju | yeah, just the darth vader Noooo! |
| 23:33.33 | beandog | nope, theres lots more |
| 23:33.40 | beandog | apparently puppet yoda has been replaced with cgi yoda |
| 23:33.54 | beandog | well, maybe not LOTS more |
| 23:33.55 | beandog | but mor |
| 23:33.55 | beandog | more |
| 23:33.56 | beandog | moar |
| 23:34.00 | beandog | moor |
| 23:34.07 | beandog | I'm making tuna |
| 23:34.19 | mindjuju | tuna sammichs or tuna surprise? |
| 23:39.34 | beandog | casserole |
| 23:39.56 | beandog | mindjuju: come over for dinner |
| 23:40.09 | beandog | I have jello pudding |
| 23:40.22 | mindjuju | i'm actually going to be up there tomorrow for a FiL luncheon |
| 23:40.28 | beandog | whats FiL |
| 23:40.33 | mindjuju | father in law |
| 23:40.44 | PoeticIntensity | beandog... Not sure I remember you ever beating me..... |
| 23:40.54 | mindjuju | ah dag |
| 23:40.54 | PoeticIntensity | perhaps you can enlighten me? |
| 23:41.13 | beandog | PoeticIntensity: oh man |
| 23:41.19 | beandog | I remember one time |
| 23:41.24 | beandog | when we were on that strip behind your house |
| 23:41.35 | beandog | that long road next to the mountains |
| 23:41.41 | beandog | this was a long time ago |
| 23:41.46 | beandog | before you got your upgrades |
| 23:42.07 | PoeticIntensity | and Scott was in my car, wasn't he... |
| 23:42.12 | beandog | no |
| 23:42.17 | beandog | it was just you and me |
| 23:42.29 | beandog | ah well, it doesn't matter |
| 23:45.02 | PoeticIntensity | I remember Scott and me being in my car, and you in yours, and I think you may have beat me then.. |
| 23:45.20 | PoeticIntensity | I don't know... All I know is we had some good times racin' on that street in Spanish Fork... |