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| 14:33.26 | josephscott | $rlart |
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| 15:09.29 | mindjuju | i'm using rsync to copy files across on a regular basis, but i think rsync is snarfing all the server resources and causing problems, i was looking at bwlimit, but research is showing that that works on a per file level and will have little effect on small files (which mine are) |
| 15:09.49 | mindjuju | what i'm looking for is to throttle rsync resource consumption on the server it is connecting to |
| 15:10.52 | mindjuju | or from a server side, is there a way to throttle a process to a certain cpu / memory utilization? |
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| 15:23.29 | mindjuju | howdy fungus |
| 15:23.40 | mindjuju | how do you like nice/renice |
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| 15:24.04 | fungus | It's great if you need it. |
| 15:24.17 | fungus | It's rare that I have found a real need for it. |
| 15:24.43 | mindjuju | if i understand it right, if i have a process that starts up that can have a problem snarfing all the system resources, i can set the nice level high to give it a lower priority |
| 15:25.06 | josephscott | carmony: thanks for the etag retweet :-) |
| 15:25.07 | mindjuju | and if the sys resources are there, fine, else, it gets a managed amount |
| 15:25.09 | fungus | Yup, that's what it's for |
| 15:25.22 | mindjuju | k, i think i'm going to try that out |
| 15:25.25 | fungus | But nice only manages CPU resources |
| 15:25.34 | carmony | good morning |
| 15:25.47 | fungus | If you have issues w/ IO contention look into ionice |
| 15:26.04 | mindjuju | i had an out of memory issue last night |
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| 15:26.16 | fungus | There is no nice for memory |
| 15:27.34 | fungus | If you need a lot of memory temporarily and speed is not important, you can just add more swap. |
| 15:28.08 | fungus | But everything will slow down during the usage of swap |
| 15:28.37 | fungus | no |
| 15:28.40 | mindjuju | darn |
| 15:29.04 | fungus | If you need to keep up performance and use a lot more memory, add more real RAM |
| 15:29.07 | mindjuju | that could be cool, a process that snarfs tons of memory, you don't care if it runs slower, push it to use swap...' |
| 15:30.54 | josephscott | for cases like that the process should just write to disk |
| 15:31.01 | josephscott | basically create its own swap file |
| 15:31.27 | fungus | True, if you can control the process itself, it's code anyway, you should code it better |
| 15:32.19 | mindjuju | josephscott, did you get pm from this morning? |
| 15:32.25 | mindjuju | you left about the same time i sent it |
| 15:32.46 | josephscott | mindjuju: no |
| 15:33.24 | mindjuju | resent |
| 15:33.48 | josephscott | yeah, I was at an auto shop this morning for a bit, now back at home |
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| 16:22.03 | josephscott | I wonder if this was mindjuju's doing https://github.com/fpletz/kernelroll |
| 16:29.42 | mindjuju | that's cool! |
| 16:32.15 | mahelious | that would be a sick april fools prank |
| 16:32.59 | mahelious | wonder if its mac portable |
| 16:36.31 | mindjuju | A-FREAKIN-MAZING - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Google-buys-restaurant-review-apf-3023395378.html?x=0 |
| 16:36.37 | mindjuju | google buys Zagat |
| 16:37.17 | mindjuju | i wonder how that's going to affect the groupon / living social market |
| 16:38.33 | mahelious | maybe groupon can make a bid on michelin. lmao |
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| 16:39.40 | mindjuju | In her blog post announcing the deal, Google executive Marissa Mayer said Zagat will become a âcornerstoneâ of Googleâs local services, which include listings and maps for restaurants and other small businesses. |
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| 16:52.40 | fungus | Why is the Zagat purchase a big deal? Doesn't seem big to me. |
| 16:56.55 | macnewbold | it feels to me like a direction Google has been moving is toward having more reliable local content |
| 16:56.57 | carmony | josephscott: will wordcamp has internet access for WordCamp speakers? |
| 16:57.11 | josephscott | carmony: that is the plan |
| 16:57.23 | josephscott | though it is a good idea to have a back up plan, just in case :-) |
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| 16:57.37 | beandog | fungus: mindjuju just likes stirring up a storm |
| 16:57.43 | mindjuju | @fungus, zagat pretty famous restaurant review service |
| 16:58.12 | macnewbold | creating place pages to let people update their own business address, post other relevant data, etc, has helped that considerably, and having Zagat will give them a paid workforce that reviews and rates places and is out on the street getting accurate data |
| 16:58.13 | fungus | Yeah, so. It's not a surprising purchase |
| 16:58.49 | JacobEdmondKerr | Hey guys. I have apache setup to send email through our gmail account smtp.gmail.com. I have this setup on both my development machine and live. On the development machine email is instant on the live server it takes several minutes or more. Do you know what could be slowing down the sending of email form my live server? |
| 16:58.52 | fungus | It seems to me a natural step to make their search results better |
| 16:59.18 | JacobEdmondKerr | this is all done through the mail function and SendMail.exe |
| 17:00.44 | fungus | JacobEdmondKerr, your app uses the mail() function, and PHP is left at using 'sendmail', right? |
| 17:01.20 | fungus | That means your local MTA (Sendmail, Postfix, Qmail, Exim, etc) is responsible for delivering the message. |
| 17:01.28 | JacobEdmondKerr | Yeah I have both servers configured to use send mail. This is all setup in the PHP.ini file and sendmail config |
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| 17:01.48 | fungus | What do your mail logs show? |
| 17:01.50 | mindjuju | fungus, wasn't saying it was a bad thing,i think its a good thing and a masterstroke on thier part |
| 17:01.54 | JacobEdmondKerr | but they are both on windows machine. |
| 17:02.00 | JacobEdmondKerr | Hummm.. |
| 17:02.08 | fungus | ah, windows... umm |
| 17:02.54 | fungus | on Windows, I would likely suggest you change your php.ini file to use SMTP to send the email. |
| 17:02.56 | JacobEdmondKerr | the live one has IIS but the dev is just apache maybe that's why it's taking forever LOL. |
| 17:04.42 | JacobEdmondKerr | Arg. When I first set it up on the live server it was instant now it's not. |
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| 17:21.42 | macnewbold | does deving on apache when live uses IIS usually work out well? |
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| 17:21.53 | macnewbold | i'd think it wouldn't |
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| 17:29.21 | mindjuju | who here uses nagios |
| 17:29.46 | mindjuju | poor fungus, i always bug you was looking for somebody else so you don't feel abused |
| 17:30.00 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:30.08 | fungus | hehe |
| 17:30.18 | mindjuju | so, here is my qq |
| 17:30.45 | mindjuju | i'm trying to define a service in nagios, i want nagios to now monitor https |
| 17:30.53 | mindjuju | i have this up |
| 17:30.54 | mindjuju | http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_http |
| 17:31.01 | mindjuju | i see that to do this, i want -s |
| 17:31.33 | mindjuju | is this how i do that? |
| 17:31.34 | mindjuju | http://pastebin.com/AjpW5tg6 |
| 17:31.42 | fungus | capital S |
| 17:32.17 | fungus | oh that's wrong |
| 17:32.26 | fungus | You have to define a check command first |
| 17:35.10 | fungus | http://pastebin.com/vurCHqaD |
| 17:35.13 | fungus | something like that |
| 17:39.12 | mindjuju | interesting |
| 17:39.40 | fungus | You can't pass arguments to your check command via the service definition like that. |
| 17:40.12 | mindjuju | so if i'm just using defaults, i don't need to declare, but if i'm using arguments then i do? |
| 17:41.30 | fungus | http://pastebin.com/21TwfJz8 |
| 17:41.50 | fungus | Here is an example of how you can pass arguments to the check command via the service definition |
| 17:42.11 | fungus | This example checks the expiration of the SSL cert |
| 17:42.59 | fungus | mindjuju, no, the check command in a service definition must always match a check command |
| 17:52.24 | ninnypants | josephscott: ping |
| 17:52.29 | josephscott | ninnypants: |
| 17:52.32 | josephscott | ninnypants: hi |
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| 17:52.42 | ninnypants | hey got a second for a wp question |
| 17:52.48 | josephscott | sure, what's up? |
| 17:54.12 | ninnypants | so I'm trying to modify the order of products in wp-ecommerce, and I know there's a filter that will let me modify the query vars before the query is built but when I add a filter to query_vars it passes this in http://pastebin.com/8S9j0Awv |
| 17:54.39 | ninnypants | do I have the wrong filter? I was thinking it was the right one |
| 17:54.44 | josephscott | wow, that is a lot of stuff |
| 17:54.59 | josephscott | have you tried lowering the priority of the filter? |
| 17:55.25 | josephscott | I'm not familiar with internals of wp-ecommerce |
| 17:55.37 | josephscott | there should be some folks at WCSLC who are though :-) |
| 17:56.10 | ninnypants | those poor people |
| 17:56.11 | ninnypants | ;) |
| 17:56.26 | ninnypants | haven't tried lowering the priority but I will |
| 18:03.25 | ninnypants | josephscott: didn't work but I don't think I have the right filter since it should be called more than once if it was actually modifying each posts query |
| 18:04.06 | ninnypants | don't have time for it now though... Thanks for your help |
| 18:04.08 | josephscott | yeah, I don't know off hand |
| 18:14.02 | carmony | okay, what the heck, keynote doesn't have a "Save As..." option? |
| 18:14.20 | beandog | ~pirate carmony |
| 18:14.20 | ibot | ACTION illegally downloads carmony and shares carmony with all his friends |
| 18:19.01 | josephscott | mine does |
| 18:19.03 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: it's the new OSX motto: "you're too stupid to work a file system" |
| 18:19.18 | carmony | its odd, mine is from the App Store |
| 18:19.23 | carmony | it has "Save a Version" |
| 18:19.35 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: lol |
| 18:20.59 | josephscott | carmony: I think the new version auto saves everything |
| 18:22.22 | carmony | yeah, but I wanted to save it as a new file |
| 18:22.26 | carmony | anyway, lame :P |
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| 20:09.27 | mindjuju | ~frenchtaunt macnewbold |
| 20:09.27 | ibot | ACTION summons the french taunter! macnewbold, I burst my pimples at you... |
| 20:09.30 | mindjuju | pow! |
| 20:09.34 | macnewbold | ~poke mindjuju's eye |
| 20:09.34 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind mindjuju's eye, pokes mindjuju's eye repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:09.41 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 20:09.46 | mindjuju | ~frenchassault macnewbold |
| 20:09.46 | ibot | ACTION summons the french taunter! macnewbold is an English bedwetting type! macnewbold, I burst my pimples at you... You tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a! |
| 20:09.56 | macnewbold | ~dtdhit mindjuju |
| 20:09.56 | ibot | ACTION stikes at mindjuju with the vulgar dragon technique knocks out mindjuju and injures fungus! |
| 20:10.03 | mindjuju | ~bdhit macnewbold |
| 20:10.03 | ibot | ACTION leaps to Sunrise Claw of the Cruel Snake on macnewbold |
| 20:10.11 | macnewbold | ~mjhit mindjuju |
| 20:10.20 | mindjuju | yeah i don't have one, but you do |
| 20:10.24 | macnewbold | ~roulette mindjuju |
| 20:10.24 | ibot | ACTION watches mindjuju pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 20:10.25 | mindjuju | ~macattack macnewbold |
| 20:10.25 | ibot | ACTION mixes nitrate, cellulose and acide to make nitor manite and lobs it at macnewbold... Boom ! |
| 20:10.50 | macnewbold | ~backtowork macnewbold |
| 20:29.50 | beandog | I didn't have a default gateway setup in freenas |
| 20:29.51 | beandog | that fixed it |
| 20:29.57 | beandog | the world is at peace once again |
| 20:30.04 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart beandog |
| 20:30.04 | ibot | beats beandog over the head with a microkernel |
| 20:30.41 | beandog | aka, my boss can get to what she wants |
| 20:30.44 | beandog | whut |
| 20:45.00 | mindjuju | chicken butt |
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| 21:07.01 | ninnypants | SunSparc: what's ant? |
| 21:07.19 | ninnypants | I recognize the name |
| 21:07.25 | SunSparc | ant = another neat tool |
| 21:07.29 | beandog | http://ant.apache.org/ |
| 21:07.41 | SunSparc | ant = a java tool for automating builds |
| 21:08.09 | SunSparc | ~ant beandog |
| 21:08.10 | ibot | ACTION points at beandog from all of three feet and says in her best German accent "From way up here you all look like little ants!" |
| 21:08.17 | beandog | whut |
| 21:08.19 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: our condolences |
| 21:08.29 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:08.38 | beandog | I think I need to go to lunch now. |
| 21:08.42 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Actually, it is quite interesting. |
| 21:09.04 | SunSparc | beandog: Yep, it is almost dinner time, that makes it a good time for lunch. |
| 21:09.40 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: While ant is a Java tool, you can use if for building projects of all sorts of code families. |
| 21:09.53 | DexterTheDragon | yeah I know |
| 21:10.05 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:10.05 | DexterTheDragon | I like make |
| 21:10.09 | SunSparc | Ah, yes |
| 21:10.32 | SunSparc | Well, that is more in tune with the Linux flavor. |
| 21:10.56 | SunSparc | Though according to the book I am reading, ant is so much easier to use. |
| 21:11.37 | DexterTheDragon | only if you've been tricked that xml makes sense |
| 21:12.03 | SunSparc | I have used make many times to build sources, but I have never make my own make script. |
| 21:12.24 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: lol, yeah, well, xml can be good and bad, I admit that. |
| 21:19.10 | xtrementl | agreed.. though spaces/tabs don't jack your configs as bad. but i'll be with dexter on this i like make better |
| 21:19.26 | xtrementl | make seems to be testy about its spacing |
| 21:20.22 | DexterTheDragon | you just have to use tabs in makefiles |
| 21:20.49 | xtrementl | yeah it was probably my vim the one time replacing tabs :) |
| 21:33.07 | SunSparc | It is probably like any tool, whatever you are more familiar with is usually "better". :) |
| 21:33.46 | mindjuju | i preferred pkzip over arj for quite a while |
| 21:34.14 | SunSparc | Good old pkzip... |
| 21:34.28 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:34.41 | mindjuju | and i used xmodem for a long time before jumping to zmodem |
| 21:34.54 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:34.57 | beandog | oh man |
| 21:35.00 | beandog | those were the days |
| 21:35.06 | SunSparc | how fast is your modem now? |
| 21:35.31 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 21:35.43 | mindjuju | my friend and i started out with 1200 |
| 21:35.55 | SunSparc | I remember getting the 3Com 56k and being in heaven! |
| 21:35.57 | beandog | heck, I remember when CD-ROM drives came out |
| 21:35.59 | mindjuju | don't ask josephscott, i think he was around for 300 and has us all beat |
| 21:36.17 | mindjuju | @beandog, remember when cd roms needed the caddy? |
| 21:36.18 | beandog | and it was so exciting ... 640 megs on one disc! |
| 21:36.22 | beandog | my harddrive had 40 megs |
| 21:36.41 | beandog | SoundBlaster |
| 21:36.42 | beandog | oh man |
| 21:36.43 | beandog | good times. |
| 21:36.48 | SunSparc | heh |
| 21:36.54 | beandog | EGA :D |
| 21:37.02 | mindjuju | i remember dreaming about gravis ultrasound and being envious |
| 21:37.24 | beandog | now I wanna play some Bard's Tale |
| 21:37.27 | beandog | that game was freaking *hard* |
| 21:37.41 | beandog | Here's an eight level dungeon. With traps. That blind you and transport you. |
| 21:37.42 | beandog | Have fun. |
| 21:37.46 | mindjuju | kings quest 4 was hard |
| 21:37.50 | mindjuju | i don't think we finshed that one |
| 21:38.19 | beandog | kids these days wouldnt have patience for our games |
| 21:38.24 | beandog | no save points |
| 21:38.41 | mindjuju | i think kq 4 had saved games |
| 21:38.46 | mindjuju | i remember police quest did |
| 21:38.58 | beandog | bard's tale, you'd have to walk ALL the way back to the inn to save it |
| 21:39.05 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 21:39.15 | beandog | with random fights the whole way |
| 21:39.17 | beandog | good times. |
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| 22:22.56 | carmony | giving a talk on CSS in 45 mins is tough |
| 22:22.57 | carmony | :P |
| 22:23.24 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:23.35 | mgeary | but not for 45 minutes ;) |
| 22:23.37 | SunSparc | carmony: who is the audience? |
| 22:26.46 | carmony | SunSparc: wordcamp people |
| 22:26.58 | carmony | so a mix of non-technical and technical people |
| 22:27.16 | SunSparc | Cool! Good luck carmony! |
| 22:32.37 | mindjuju | i'd go to listen, but i've got a prayer to say |
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| 22:34.55 | beandog | mgeary: unspoken pressure? |
| 22:34.56 | beandog | pfft. |
| 22:35.56 | beandog | mgeary: although, if you wanna get out of giving a talk again, get up there and start throwing out conspiracy theories |
| 22:36.01 | mindjuju | there are a lot of potential topics there, which are you indifferent or are you indifferent to them all? |
| 22:36.04 | SunSparc | mgeary: it was a government conspiracy anyway |
| 22:37.35 | mindjuju | ninnypants, don't you work for sharkrobot ? |
| 22:58.18 | SunSparc | laterz! |
| 23:03.24 | ninnypants1 | mindjuju: |
| 23:03.28 | ninnypants1 | oops |
| 23:03.52 | ninnypants1 | mindjuju: kinda but not really I'm good friends with the owner so I help him out from time to tim |
| 23:03.58 | ninnypants1 | *time |
| 23:04.02 | mindjuju | ah gotcha |
| 23:04.09 | mindjuju | he just posted a position with uvu |
| 23:04.13 | mindjuju | was just wondering |
| 23:04.29 | ninnypants1 | oh for screen printers? |
| 23:04.48 | mindjuju | for a php guy to build a tshirt site |
| 23:05.12 | mindjuju | oh, it's an intern spot |
| 23:05.23 | ninnypants1 | hmm I wonder what that one is |
| 23:05.26 | carmony | man, I could give like a 3 hour tutorial on CSS.... |
| 23:05.35 | mindjuju | i can forward to you if you want |
| 23:05.42 | ninnypants1 | I'm working on 3 or so sites for him to pay off my car right now |
| 23:05.49 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:06.03 | ninnypants1 | maybe he's completely reworking the actual sharkrobot.com site |
| 23:06.29 | ninnypants1 | maybe I'll apply ;p |
| 23:06.44 | mindjuju | do you want me to forward to you? |
| 23:08.17 | ninnypants1 | sure might as well look |
| 23:08.25 | mindjuju | PM me your email addy |
| 23:10.27 | beandog | ~spam ninnypants |
| 23:10.27 | ibot | ACTION subscribes ninnypants to every possible mailing list he can find on the 'net AND arranges for ninnypants to get at least 50 snail mail spams a day |
| 23:17.30 | mindjuju | this is awesomely amazing! http://eth-0.nl/lackrack.pdf |
| 23:17.36 | mindjuju | ^^fungus! |
| 23:18.03 | mindjuju | using an ikea end table as a server rack |
| 23:18.19 | fungus | Yeah, really cool idea. |
| 23:18.28 | fungus | I have one of those tables too |
| 23:18.41 | mindjuju | that's tooo cool |
| 23:19.30 | fungus | http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack |
| 23:19.34 | fungus | better details |
| 23:20.39 | beandog | lol |
| 23:20.40 | beandog | thats awesome. |
| 23:21.02 | mindjuju | i'm wondering if you add anchors to the back legs, if you could install the rails |
| 23:21.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:21.20 | fungus | Of course you coult |
| 23:21.24 | fungus | could* |
| 23:21.44 | fungus | Might be a little short for some rails sets, but most rails are fairly flexible |
| 23:22.00 | mindjuju | i can't get over how clever that is |
| 23:24.57 | beandog | the only problem is, I don't want a rackmount in my living room |
| 23:25.40 | ninnypants1 | could be handy to mount anything |
| 23:26.00 | ninnypants1 | I have one of those tables in my office and can see how it'd be handy |
| 23:26.06 | fungus | it doesn't have to be in your lv room. It's just a rack you can put anywhere |
| 23:26.33 | beandog | fungus: nope. |
| 23:26.44 | beandog | :) |
| 23:26.48 | fungus | hehe |
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| 23:46.33 | mgeary | apparently all of San Diego is currently without power |
| 23:48.29 | mindjuju | curious |
| 23:57.49 | beandog | whut |
| 23:57.50 | beandog | that sucks |