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| 00:57.11 | macnewbold | ~dance |
| 00:57.12 | ibot | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
| 00:57.26 | macnewbold | ibot: is that the "time for the meeting" dance? |
| 00:57.32 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 00:57.32 | ibot | pries DexterTheDragon's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to DexterTheDragon |
| 00:57.46 | mindjuju | is there lots of people at uphpu? |
| 00:57.56 | macnewbold | not yet |
| 00:57.59 | macnewbold | where are you? |
| 00:58.12 | macnewbold | no presenter yet either |
| 00:58.19 | mindjuju | working through DLL HELL, but i'm nearly done |
| 00:58.22 | macnewbold | doh |
| 00:58.29 | mindjuju | ha! that's happened before |
| 00:58.36 | macnewbold | serves you right for working with those lousy windoze boxes |
| 00:58.38 | mindjuju | 7p, no presenter, ... stress.. |
| 00:58.41 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 00:58.55 | mindjuju | but i've never had anybody dog me on the final day |
| 00:59.06 | mindjuju | we did have that ryan stewart guy dog like a week before |
| 00:59.09 | mindjuju | punk |
| 00:59.11 | macnewbold | yeah, normally i'd have something up my sleeve for an emergency, but i would be really playing it by ear if i had to take it tonight |
| 00:59.37 | mindjuju | d00d, you got a crazy brain in that head of yours, you could talk about practically anything as an expert |
| 00:59.53 | macnewbold | there was something i was thinking about presenting, i think it was some intermediate-to-advanced OOP stuff |
| 00:59.56 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 01:00.02 | macnewbold | you're funny mindjuju |
| 01:00.28 | macnewbold | stuff I've worked with before I usually know pretty well, but there is a whole lot of stuff that i've never worked with closely |
| 01:00.52 | mindjuju | hey, don't forget to announce wordcamp |
| 01:00.53 | macnewbold | there was something at work the other day though where OOP and inheritance came up |
| 01:00.56 | mindjuju | it's... |
| 01:01.22 | mindjuju | sept 10th |
| 01:01.25 | mindjuju | at uni of utah |
| 01:01.44 | mindjuju | more info here |
| 01:01.44 | mindjuju | http://2011.slc.wordcamp.org/ |
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| 01:09.53 | mindjuju | howdy josephscott, did you go to uphpu meet? |
| 01:10.04 | josephscott | mindjuju: I'm there now |
| 01:10.19 | mindjuju | ah cool, was going to say, i told macnewbold to talk about wordpress |
| 01:10.27 | mindjuju | gave him the generals, but since you're there... |
| 01:10.29 | josephscott | haha |
| 01:21.49 | josephscott | mindjuju: meetings are even closer for you now :-) |
| 01:23.55 | mindjuju | i know, i feel like prodigal son |
| 01:24.04 | mindjuju | would have gone today if i didn't have this prob that i just finished |
| 01:26.13 | herlo | you guys are missing out on a great presentation! |
| 01:27.42 | macnewbold | mindjuju: it wouldn't be too late to meet us at applebee's, wink nudge |
| 01:43.26 | josephscott | $random-numbers |
| 01:43.30 | josephscott | $random-number |
| 01:43.30 | raifbot | josephscott your number is : 174,922,858 |
| 01:46.41 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 01:46.41 | raifbot | Chuck Norris got set on fire. The fire had to stop, drop, and roll. |
| 01:48.25 | herlo | nice one! |
| 01:49.28 | macnewbold | i had never heard of the phpcpd (copy paste detector) but i think i'm in love |
| 01:49.31 | herlo | mindjuju should come to applebees! |
| 01:49.47 | herlo | :) |
| 01:50.00 | macnewbold | don't tell my wife i'm in love with a copy paste detector too |
| 01:50.02 | herlo | macnewbold: are you a polygamist ?? |
| 01:50.17 | herlo | :P |
| 01:50.18 | macnewbold | no, i'm a polyfiliist |
| 01:50.23 | herlo | ooh |
| 01:50.52 | macnewbold | not sure if that's the right word, but polyfilia i think is/should be a word |
| 01:51.44 | herlo | hehe, okay |
| 02:04.50 | josephscott | $weather bluffdale, UT |
| 02:04.51 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for bluffdale, UT - Mostly Cloudy 90f / 32c Humidity: 21% Wind: NW at 8 mph |
| 02:59.25 | influx | How's the meeting? |
| 03:03.27 | herlo | done! |
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| 16:12.44 | mgeary | anyone have a good source for ATA (internal) drives? I think Costco only sells external drives... |
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| 16:14.56 | herlo | newegg |
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| 16:18.33 | ninnypants | yeah probably newegg or tiger direct |
| 16:18.56 | mahelious | i didnt even know UltraATA drives were still in production |
| 16:20.22 | mahelious | so a 250GB UATA drive is $65 on newegg, a comparable SATA is $45. |
| 16:21.11 | mahelious | that $20 could buy you PCI sata card |
| 16:22.49 | mgeary | yeah, sorry, i'm pretty sure it's SATA |
| 16:23.03 | mahelious | too bad we dont have a frys around here... |
| 16:23.24 | josephscott | seriously, I moved here from Sacramento, which had 2 of them! |
| 16:23.47 | mgeary | seems like mindjuju had a link to a 3TB drive for some great price a while back |
| 16:24.07 | mgeary | here's a WD 3TB drive for $150, that's decent |
| 16:24.12 | mahelious | if you must have a drive in hand today, you can always kowtow to best buy. otherwise id recommend newegg as well. |
| 16:24.23 | mgeary | nah, i can order |
| 16:24.33 | mgeary | 2Tb for $80, that seems better |
| 16:24.56 | mgeary | anyone have any concerns with seagate? |
| 16:26.23 | mgeary | http://www.buy.com/prod/seagate-barracuda-st2000dl003-2-tb-internal-hard-drive-sata-600-5900/q/sellerid/3872292/loc/101/218219991.html <-- seems to be the best value |
| 16:32.26 | mahelious | i have a seagate in my box at home. never had issues with it |
| 16:33.49 | mahelious | no experience with the reduced-speed drives though. unless its powering a personal file server it seems kinda weak. |
| 16:34.08 | mgeary | yeah, it's just a home backup/media server (going into my Drobo) |
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| 16:39.49 | romanovic | mgeary: is this your office drobo? or do you have more than one? |
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| 16:44.56 | mgeary | i have one at home |
| 16:45.07 | mgeary | and a drive in it has an orange "i'm going bad" light on it |
| 16:45.10 | mindjuju | mgeary has all the cool stuff |
| 16:45.34 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:46.07 | mindjuju | $8ball does mgeary have the leather jacket with aviator sunglasses? |
| 16:46.07 | raifbot | mindjuju - It is certain. |
| 16:46.11 | romanovic | mgeary: out of curiousity, what is the brand/age of the bad drive? |
| 16:46.13 | TuxToaster | I've had drives show the "I'm going bad" light for years. |
| 16:46.45 | mindjuju | does mgeary drive a saab or audi |
| 16:46.57 | mindjuju | $8ball does mgeary drive a saab or audi |
| 16:46.57 | raifbot | mindjuju - Outlook good. |
| 16:47.14 | mindjuju | actually now that i think of it, i'd see him more likely driving a bmw |
| 16:47.49 | TuxToaster | anyone good with CakePHP? |
| 16:50.13 | TuxToaster | $8ball did everyone die? |
| 16:50.13 | raifbot | TuxToaster - As I see it, yes. |
| 16:50.45 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 16:51.43 | skinner | TuxToaster: What questions about cakePHP you have? |
| 16:52.23 | TuxToaster | hopefully a simple one. :-) I am wanting to display some information about the logged in user on every page. |
| 16:52.41 | skinner | kk |
| 16:52.51 | TuxToaster | right now, most of that information seems to be tied to a UsersController, which is only available on pages using /users/xxx/yyy |
| 16:53.18 | skinner | Can you store the information in the Session? |
| 16:53.23 | TuxToaster | so, if I were doing this in normal PHP, I'd just instansiate the object in an include so it's always available... but in Cake, what's the best way to do it? |
| 16:53.23 | skinner | CakePHP has a great session helper |
| 16:53.30 | skinner | http://book.cakephp.org/view/1465/Session |
| 16:53.42 | mgeary | sorry, back now |
| 16:53.55 | mgeary | romanovic: the bad drive came with the Drobo, which i got about 2 years ago, i think |
| 16:54.33 | TuxToaster | Ideally I would love to... but I guess my question is what exactly can I store there? Can I effectively just store the model in the session so I have access to the data? |
| 16:54.39 | mgeary | mindjuju: i drive this: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/04/2010_Mazdaspeed3_Top.jpg |
| 16:54.59 | mgeary | can't afford the bmw just yet |
| 16:55.08 | mgeary | but you're right. Someday.... |
| 16:55.08 | TuxToaster | still wrapping my head around how cake does stuff. heh. |
| 16:55.36 | skinner | TuxToaster: Sure. I've done that before. You retrieve the users data with the model, then store that in some key in the session |
| 16:56.00 | romanovic | TuxToaster: you can populate the user info on any other page with an ajax call, returning plain html |
| 16:56.15 | mindjuju | mgeary, that's a pretty nice car! |
| 16:56.29 | TuxToaster | kk. Sounds easy enough. I was experimenting with doing $this->requestAction too, but don't love the idea of pulling the info from the DB every time |
| 16:56.41 | mindjuju | like 32 in the winter |
| 16:56.54 | mgeary | mindjuju: it's a lot of fun |
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| 17:14.57 | macnewbold | mindjuju: why does the mileage differ so much in winter? |
| 17:15.58 | macnewbold | TuxToaster: in Cake, you can add stuff to your app_controller.php that all your other controllers extend, so that you can make it available everywhere. |
| 17:16.39 | macnewbold | and yes, you can shove pretty much anything into the session |
| 17:16.55 | macnewbold | i usually use arrays in it |
| 17:17.03 | macnewbold | but i think you can put objects in the session if you want |
| 17:18.06 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: thanks. I was tempted to add it to the app_controller, and I still might, just trying to avoid having to move a bunch of existing code to make it work |
| 17:18.21 | macnewbold | yeah, i understand |
| 17:18.49 | macnewbold | all you'd need to do I think is add your user model to the app controller, then when they log in, stick it in the session |
| 17:18.58 | macnewbold | then everywhere in your app you could pull from it |
| 17:20.00 | macnewbold | TuxToaster: DexterTheDragon is a cakephp guru and taught me most of what I know about it. it's been a while since I've used cakephp heavily though - i got dragged into Magento instead for quite a while. |
| 17:21.03 | mindjuju | @macnewbold, i suspect its the ethanol |
| 17:21.12 | mindjuju | possibly some of the fuel to air ratio? |
| 17:21.19 | mindjuju | i'm not a car guy, just guessing |
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| 17:21.54 | mindjuju | i suspect though that maybe beandog or poeticintensity might could say |
| 17:23.00 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: yeah, it works pretty well.. though I can't help but twitch when I see the queries it generates. I'm used to having explicit control over that stuff. :-) |
| 17:23.25 | macnewbold | yeah, the caching can help a lot |
| 17:23.52 | macnewbold | there are ways to make it do queries more intelligently, like the Containable behaviour, if i remember the name right |
| 17:24.01 | macnewbold | recursive by default make it be really crazy |
| 17:24.19 | macnewbold | I like turning on debug 2 so i can keep an eye on the db queries its running |
| 17:24.30 | macnewbold | i like the debug bar component too |
| 17:26.42 | TuxToaster | I might have to look into that. I am missing the debug toolbar I wrote at my last job |
| 17:26.54 | macnewbold | btw, everyone: Anyone know a solid Drupal guy/team who would be interested in a referral? I've got a lead on a project. from what i'm told, it's "a 1-2 person, 2-3 week gig for <$10K" |
| 17:27.20 | mindjuju | hmm, drupal |
| 17:27.33 | mindjuju | if memory serves, there is actually a utah drupal group |
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| 17:28.37 | mindjuju | so macnewbold, here it is |
| 17:28.37 | mindjuju | http://groups.drupal.org/utah |
| 17:29.20 | mindjuju | it looks like its a combined utah denver group? |
| 17:29.43 | TuxToaster | heh, that's a bit of a trip for a meetup |
| 17:29.50 | mindjuju | no doubt |
| 17:29.58 | mindjuju | they prolly skype it, ro something |
| 17:32.33 | mindjuju | ~seen _psychic_ |
| 17:32.47 | ibot | _psychic_ <~johnander@64.0.193.15> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 38d 57m 47s ago, saying: 'utahcon: okay cool I think I know Mark'. |
| 17:47.27 | jtsnow | macnewbold: I'm active in the Drupal community here |
| 17:47.39 | jtsnow | (and no, we're not combined with the Denver group :)) |
| 17:52.59 | mindjuju | thx for clarification jtsnow, something on that page said utah / denver and i thought it meant combined group, srry! |
| 17:54.32 | dharmatech | we're active too. :P |
| 17:56.50 | mindjuju | so, scroll up and look at macnewbold post about a possible gig worth some decent $$ |
| 17:58.02 | jtsnow | macnewbold: you can pm me the details and I'll see what I can do |
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| 17:59.31 | macnewbold | thanks, jtsnow |
| 17:59.43 | macnewbold | i don't have any of the details, but we're getting together some referrals to give to him |
| 18:00.31 | macnewbold | if you want to pm me contact info, I can pass it along |
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| 18:29.02 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 18:29.03 | raifbot | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking stderr-'s head off. |
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| 18:29.56 | TuxToaster | raifbot: there are better ways to redirect stderr. Just sayin'. |
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| 18:41.08 | PoeticIntensity | haro |
| 18:41.17 | mindjuju | sup pi |
| 18:41.32 | mindjuju | how is ole blendtek these days? |
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| 18:48.56 | PoeticIntensity | Growin' like a weed. |
| 18:49.01 | PoeticIntensity | programmin' like a mad-man. |
| 18:55.09 | mindjuju | way cool |
| 18:55.58 | PoeticIntensity | yar... |
| 18:56.02 | PoeticIntensity | Where you workin' now, mindjuju ? |
| 18:56.11 | PoeticIntensity | same place in Draper? |
| 18:56.21 | mindjuju | nah, i left those guys about a year ago |
| 18:56.25 | mindjuju | i'm in pleasant grove now |
| 18:56.33 | mindjuju | live in orem, the commute is wonderful! |
| 18:56.44 | PoeticIntensity | ah, right on! |
| 18:57.00 | PoeticIntensity | What you programmin' in? |
| 18:57.07 | PoeticIntensity | or are you on sys admin now? |
| 18:57.18 | mindjuju | sys admin now |
| 18:57.23 | mindjuju | rule with an iron fist |
| 18:57.47 | TuxToaster | he follows the BOFH stories like a bible |
| 18:58.22 | PoeticIntensity | rock oN! |
| 19:04.19 | beandog | ~friday |
| 19:04.19 | ibot | from memory, friday is !!!!!!!! FRIDAY !!!!!!! |
| 19:16.47 | mindjuju | stderr-: did you see there is a prequel to The Thing? http://www.slashfilm.com/the-thing-trailer-poster/ |
| 19:17.58 | TuxToaster | stderr- might not reply, raifbot beheaded him earlier. :P |
| 19:25.35 | mindjuju | sounds like they tried to be true to john carpenter, that's cool |
| 19:25.50 | mindjuju | he's made some great movies, escape from new york, big trouble, the thing, etc |
| 19:27.52 | stderr- | yea, don't know to feel about that. It's going to be hard to even match Carpenter's claustrophobia and paranoia themes he developed so well in The Thing |
| 19:28.15 | stderr- | on a completely unrelated note, does anyone have a favorite golf shop in/nearl SLC proper? |
| 19:29.00 | mindjuju | herlo, you mentioned there was a way to get info from yum on what was installed on a server so that it could be duplicated elsewhere, can you give more info? |
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| 19:39.25 | beandog | mindjuju: yum list installed |
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| 19:51.16 | carmony | how was uphpu last night |
| 19:57.44 | mahil | sorry stderr-, i only know the ut county clubs |
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| 21:11.36 | skinner | ~give everyone bacon |
| 21:11.36 | ibot | ACTION gives bacon to everyone |
| 21:11.57 | herlo | yay, bacon! |
| 21:13.39 | mindjuju | sad news everybody - http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/113356/burger-king-drops-king-mascot-forbes |
| 21:14.58 | herlo | lol |
| 21:15.06 | ninnypants | heh just saw that |
| 21:15.17 | herlo | that is sad |
| 21:16.24 | mindjuju | here is one of the finest - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA27Wuewgz4 |
| 21:17.04 | mindjuju | and another - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXF6a2ZXgp0 |
| 21:17.28 | herlo | on phone |
| 21:18.01 | mindjuju | how mcdonalds ever beat them,i don't know, i hain't ate there in years, except for the breakfast biscuit i had like 3 weeks ago |
| 21:18.06 | mindjuju | but the big mac is a big yuck |
| 21:19.00 | herlo | i crave a quater pounder from time to time |
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| 22:39.59 | beandog | mindjuju: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Generation-Before-Lonely/dp/B004SAW1SW/ref=sr_shvl_album_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1313793440&sr=301-3 |
| 22:41.14 | mindjuju | curious! |
| 22:41.58 | mindjuju | beandog - have you seen this? http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Eyes-Back-Brent-Spiner/dp/B00000DPEY |
| 22:42.45 | beandog | intresting. |
| 22:43.36 | mindjuju | i love how people really think it could sell brand new for $260 |
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| 22:44.31 | mindjuju | now this is cool - http://www.amazon.com/Worlds-Invasion-Theatre-Works-Collection/dp/1580812449/ref=pd_sim_m_2 |
| 22:45.03 | mindjuju | oh wait , it's got wil wheaton |
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| 22:53.35 | romanovic | haha |
| 22:54.12 | romanovic | is wil wheaton your arch nemesis, mindjuju? |
| 22:54.31 | beandog | wesley is awesome |
| 22:54.34 | synico | he's stderr-'s favorite |
| 22:55.04 | beandog | why does gmail get stuck on loading in chrome |
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