| 00:01.24 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 00:01.43 | mindjuju | hey, just getting ready to leave |
| 00:01.45 | mindjuju | what up? |
| 00:02.22 | herlo | no biggie |
| 00:02.33 | herlo | mindjuju: if you see 'MIRRORx' what does that mean to you. |
| 00:02.40 | herlo | if say, your 11-yo son told you that |
| 00:03.04 | mindjuju | hmm, off the top of my head, i don't think i've seen that |
| 00:03.14 | herlo | yeah, me neither, thanks |
| 00:03.16 | mindjuju | if he said it, i would think he would be referencing a cartoon |
| 00:03.24 | mindjuju | maybe like a kim possible or something |
| 00:03.25 | herlo | k, cool |
| 00:03.28 | herlo | lol |
| 00:08.12 | influx | ungh |
| 00:12.49 | beandog | me too |
| 00:12.55 | herlo | adios |
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| 04:15.28 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
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| 05:01.36 | raifbot | Chuck Norris counted to infinity - twice. |
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| 14:47.36 | influx | Good morning, y'all. |
| 14:49.11 | romanovic | good duck |
| 14:49.17 | romanovic | i mean morning |
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| 14:51.42 | influx | :) |
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| 15:36.04 | fungus | streamed? where? |
| 15:36.24 | _clint_ | http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/ |
| 15:36.34 | mindjuju | yup, sorry |
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| 15:37.21 | mahelious | so what happens if congress blocks the bill? they extend the deadline again? |
| 15:37.38 | mindjuju | depends on who you ask |
| 15:37.57 | mahelious | s/congress/senate |
| 15:38.07 | mindjuju | some say we just print more money, some say chaos, some say we already defaulted |
| 15:38.29 | fungus | Can't print more money, that's what the debt ceiling is about. |
| 15:38.50 | fungus | Just means US gov't stops paying some bills. |
| 15:39.17 | fungus | Which bills? who knows? |
| 15:41.19 | mahelious | S&P announced they were going to downgrade the US no matter what congress does. |
| 15:42.13 | mahelious | at this point its whether the ship hits the iceberg, or whether its set on fire and then hits the iceberg |
| 15:42.24 | romanovic | haha |
| 15:42.26 | mindjuju | heh |
| 15:42.37 | fungus | hehe |
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| 15:45.23 | romanovic | silver lining - even if the markets keep falling downhill, contributions to my meager index fund will be that much more productive once they recover |
| 15:46.32 | mahelious | if federal bonds pllummet id probably find a few hundred dollars and buy, buy, buy |
| 15:46.44 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:46.54 | mindjuju | me i just feel to buy more food storage and hunker down |
| 15:47.44 | mahelious | don't forget "the means to preserve it"... :) |
| 15:47.50 | romanovic | exactly |
| 15:53.21 | mindjuju | looks like senate vote on bill in 7min |
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| 16:12.21 | influx | nyah |
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| 16:18.40 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 16:18.41 | raifbot | Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants. |
| 16:19.34 | mahelious | is obama addressing the nation yet? |
| 16:19.51 | mindjuju | they just started voting |
| 16:19.55 | mindjuju | they just passed hatch |
| 16:20.05 | mahelious | that bastard |
| 16:20.10 | mindjuju | heh |
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| 16:23.39 | herlo | why is this important? |
| 16:24.13 | influx | ninnypants: http://markmaunder.com/2011/zero-day-vulnerability-in-many-wordpress-themes/ |
| 16:24.30 | influx | I think I remember seeing some reference(s) to timthumb in the eNews template. |
| 16:24.32 | fungus | the debt ceiling shouldn't be important, but the tea party bullies have fixated on it, to use for leverage. |
| 16:24.32 | influx | theme* |
| 16:24.57 | herlo | fungus: meh, that's a topic for #utah if you ask me |
| 16:25.12 | fungus | heh, probably |
| 16:25.15 | ninnypants | influx: yeah it's for sure there that shop has timthumb in all of it's theme's I think |
| 16:25.22 | influx | :< |
| 16:25.39 | ninnypants | influx: I believe they pushed a fix for it |
| 16:25.45 | influx | Cool beans. |
| 16:28.31 | stderr- | fungus: exactly. The fact that they've framed this "deal" as a compromise is pretty ridiculous. |
| 16:28.55 | fungus | no kidding |
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| 16:30.42 | beandog | mo'nin |
| 16:30.46 | fungus | I agree there is a spending/revenue problem, but that should be separated. |
| 16:31.18 | herlo | mostly so I can get work done today :) |
| 16:31.18 | fungus | hehe, ok. I'm done. |
| 16:31.47 | romanovic | hah |
| 16:31.58 | romanovic | stderr-: http://www.theonion.com/articles/democrats-republicans-celebrate-pitiful-excuse-for,21052/ |
| 16:32.04 | romanovic | captures that sentiment pretty well |
| 16:32.08 | stderr- | romanovic: hah. yea, read that yesterday. |
| 16:32.25 | romanovic | just saw it on facebook this morning |
| 17:04.48 | mindjuju | has obama already spoke or is he getting rady to speak? |
| 17:05.04 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/video/abcplus-22309221/abc-news-live-22309266.html |
| 17:05.13 | mindjuju | cspan doesn't seem to be carrying it |
| 17:06.05 | mindjuju | oh hes speaking now |
| 17:09.50 | utahcon | how is our topic not related to the fact it is Wifi Day? 8.02.11 |
| 17:10.13 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> utahcon likes wifi |
| 17:11.10 | utahcon | lol |
| 17:11.12 | utahcon | thanks mindjuju |
| 17:11.23 | mindjuju | i'm here for ya bro |
| 17:12.51 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> UPHPU | Utah PHP Users Group | utahcon says today is wifi day 8.02.11 |
| 17:13.28 | mahelious | heh. thats pretty neat. the first one. |
| 17:13.40 | mahelious | probably only one we'll see in our lifetimes too, eh? |
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| 17:20.44 | mahelious | I really wish more devices would support dual-banding wifi. 2.4GHZ feels so restrictive lately. |
| 17:23.22 | beandog | whut |
| 17:25.17 | mindjuju | sorry beandog, the worldwide announcement that you certifiably rock has been superseded by utahcon and his pro-wifi-day comment |
| 17:25.27 | beandog | wifi day, th at is way cool |
| 17:27.00 | herlo | yay! |
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| 17:46.31 | influx | :D |
| 17:47.34 | mahelious | passed the house, passed the senate |
| 17:47.44 | mahelious | world saved is? |
| 17:48.39 | influx | $8ball world saved is? |
| 17:48.40 | raifbot | influx - My sources say no. |
| 17:55.21 | josephscott | 8ball must be in a bad mood |
| 17:55.53 | romanovic | $8ball is 8ball in a bad mood? |
| 17:55.53 | raifbot | romanovic - Better not tell you now. |
| 17:58.02 | ninnypants | http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/ |
| 18:07.45 | beandog | $8ball is it the end of the world |
| 18:07.45 | raifbot | beandog - Most likely. |
| 18:08.46 | beandog | $8ball is someone going to steal my chocolate milk |
| 18:08.47 | raifbot | beandog - Very doubtful. |
| 18:18.04 | mindjuju | huffpo has some vid of the batmobile tumbler driving down the road - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/01/the-dark-knight-rises-set-photos-batman-bane_n_914700.html?ncid=dynaldushpmg00000057#s319452 |
| 18:18.13 | mindjuju | being filmed i guess? |
| 18:18.30 | mindjuju | those sound pretty mean |
| 18:24.38 | beandog | so mindjuju |
| 18:24.43 | beandog | can I move in your basement so I can go to uvu |
| 18:25.57 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:26.12 | mindjuju | well, Julie is in there now, but i can throw you on the list when she moves out :) |
| 18:26.17 | beandog | sweet |
| 18:26.44 | beandog | I'm always breaking new ground |
| 18:27.12 | mindjuju | it's a cool arrangement |
| 18:27.57 | mindjuju | you get dish network (200 billion channels of QVC or whatever the shopping channels are, about 10 decent chans), plus Villa Home Video Library, plus what ever video streaming accounts you have |
| 18:29.28 | beandog | right on |
| 18:29.43 | beandog | plus access to the Villa Home Kitchen |
| 18:30.18 | mindjuju | fo sho, and outdoor grill |
| 18:30.41 | mindjuju | but the basement studio has it's own kitchen too :) |
| 18:32.04 | beandog | oh yah? |
| 18:32.05 | beandog | right on |
| 18:32.10 | beandog | this is sounding better by the minute |
| 18:32.23 | beandog | where do I put my big screen TV |
| 18:32.46 | mindjuju | funny you say that, the person before Julie that was in there had a HUGE jinormous TV in there |
| 18:32.48 | mindjuju | flat screen |
| 18:32.56 | mindjuju | i want to say 72" inch plasma? |
| 18:33.01 | beandog | holy crack |
| 18:33.02 | beandog | that is big. |
| 18:33.09 | mindjuju | he liked his TV |
| 18:33.26 | mindjuju | and the wall to mount it on is right there by the bed, so he was v happy |
| 18:33.28 | beandog | I'll bet |
| 18:33.53 | romanovic | wow... 32 days of 100+ degrees in the Dallas area? |
| 18:36.14 | josephscott | $weather dallas |
| 18:36.15 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for dallas - Partly Cloudy 105f / 41c Humidity: 22% Wind: N at 4 mph |
| 18:41.36 | TuxToaster | question... |
| 18:41.48 | TuxToaster | I'm sitting here looking at this project in CakePHP |
| 18:42.33 | TuxToaster | and on a search page, the sql trace is showing it's running like 36 queries against the database. I know some of that is the way the page is coded, and some of it is likely the framework modeling |
| 18:42.52 | TuxToaster | but is there any way to optimize that? Am I over-thinking it? |
| 18:46.43 | fungus | First ask, do you need to optimize it? Is it slow? If not, move on to more pressing matters. |
| 18:46.55 | eggyknap | $weather kanosh |
| 18:46.56 | raifbot | 3eggyknap - 0,2current weather for kanosh - Clear 81f / 27c Humidity: 44% Wind: W at 6 mph |
| 18:47.07 | eggyknap | Hey, it found Kanosh... sweet. |
| 18:47.09 | eggyknap | $weather hatton |
| 18:47.10 | raifbot | eggyknap - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for hatton |
| 18:47.20 | eggyknap | Yeah, well, I live in the middle of nowhere -- I can't have it all. |
| 18:47.28 | fungus | $weather hell |
| 18:47.28 | raifbot | fungus - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for hell |
| 18:47.34 | TuxToaster | fungus: point taken, but my concern really isn't if it's slow right now as much as that it could affect performance with a load |
| 18:47.56 | mindjuju | $weather hell, michigan |
| 18:47.57 | raifbot | 3mindjuju - 0,2current weather for hell, michigan - Cloudy 82f / 28c Humidity: 62% Wind: SW at 6 mph |
| 18:48.06 | mindjuju | see fungus, hell is in michigan |
| 18:48.10 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 18:48.13 | fungus | $google premature optimization |
| 18:48.13 | raifbot | fungus searching http://www.google.com/search?q=premature+optimization -- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki%3FPrematureOptimization -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_optimization -- http://www.flounder.com/optimization.htm |
| 18:48.29 | TuxToaster | had a feeling you were going to say that. |
| 18:48.30 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 18:48.34 | fungus | :) |
| 18:48.35 | eggyknap | TuxToaster: most ORMs and frameworks and the like that try to protect you from writing your own SQL will sometimes issue hundreds of queries to retrieve one record, where a couple well-written queries would do it. You'll want to learn how to fix that problem in whatever framework you use, if you expect to have really any load ever. |
| 18:49.06 | eggyknap | To avoid premature optimization, make those fixes only where testing tells you they're important. |
| 18:50.30 | fungus | mindjuju, somehow I can't fathom how anywhere in MI could be hot enough to be considered hell. :) |
| 18:50.47 | TuxToaster | eggyknap: premature optimization + CakePHP = BatterPHP :P |
| 18:50.53 | eggyknap | heh |
| 18:51.12 | TuxToaster | fungus: it was probably named by a Canadian. |
| 18:51.40 | TuxToaster | that's about the only way you could consider it warm there. :-) |
| 18:52.14 | fungus | ~blame Canada |
| 18:52.15 | ibot | ACTION blames Canada (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 18:52.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:11.32 | mindjuju | hmm, google buys dealmap for local deals - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Google-strikes-deal-to-apf-1356370224.html?x=0 |
| 19:22.16 | mahelious | http://www.uproxx.com/webculture/2011/07/meme-watch-chemistry-cats-word-is-his-bond/#page/12 |
| 19:22.59 | mindjuju | that's funny |
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| 19:42.55 | SunSparc | Anyone know of a good audio/video capture emulator for Windows? |
| 19:43.16 | herlo | emulator? |
| 19:43.27 | herlo | you mean, you don't want to *actually* capture the video? |
| 19:52.33 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:53.03 | SunSparc | We are using Adobe Flash Media Encoder to send a "live" stream to an FMS server. |
| 19:53.19 | SunSparc | We want to stream from a pre-recorded file. |
| 19:53.37 | SunSparc | The FME only takes Video Capture Devices as input. |
| 19:54.05 | SunSparc | So we need a driver that makes Windows think it is a Video Capture device. |
| 19:54.53 | SunSparc | We found some shareware stuff and some works, but it is clunky. |
| 19:55.21 | SunSparc | I am looking for a high quality solution. |
| 19:55.41 | mindjuju | sunsparc, i had to do something V similar to this, but didn't have a whole lot of time to come up with an answer, so i cheated |
| 19:55.59 | mindjuju | i passed the cleaned up file back to the camera, and played it back to flash encoder |
| 19:56.37 | mindjuju | i had same prob with finding an app that could play the "live" stream through the streaming server |
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| 19:57.31 | mindjuju | alternatively, i think wowza will do this |
| 19:58.34 | mindjuju | hope that helps |
| 20:01.42 | SunSparc | mindjuju: I will look at wowza, thanks |
| 20:02.03 | mindjuju | i know mgeary is a fan of wowza, and that's sayin' a lot :) |
| 20:02.13 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 20:18.49 | mindjuju | i guess ill need to find out what dota2 is - http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/valve-announces-dota-2-for-08-01-2011/ |
| 20:24.49 | stderr- | mindjuju: defense of the ancients |
| 20:25.03 | mindjuju | any good? |
| 20:26.07 | stderr- | if you're into RTSes |
| 20:27.17 | stderr- | I've been obsessed with Shadow Era lately |
| 20:27.19 | stderr- | digital ccg |
| 20:28.38 | mindjuju | we never got to play halo3 :( |
| 20:28.51 | mindjuju | prolly a good thing, i've only played about 10 min at macnewbold 's |
| 20:41.37 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 20:41.41 | macnewbold | halo3 |
| 20:41.48 | macnewbold | its been so long |
| 20:41.53 | mindjuju | yar |
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| 21:12.07 | romanovic | wow, extreme crackdown on illegal parking in Lithuania - http://www.wendmag.com/blog/2011/08/02/in-lithuania-cars-parked-in-bike-lanes-could-lead-to-crushing-results/ |
| 21:14.12 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/shuttle_station/features/sts-135_launch_fused_imagery.html |
| 21:16.47 | beandog | romanovic: boy that's gonna be an awkward conversation later on |
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| 21:18.57 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Yeah, I saw that video a while back. Pretty freaking awesome! |
| 21:19.19 | DexterTheDragon | well they had the one before, this one's for the STS-135 launch |
| 21:20.41 | SunSparc | romanovic: Ummm... wow. |
| 21:24.52 | mindjuju | romanovic, vilnius is where Marko Ramius is from |
| 21:26.04 | romanovic | sounds like a wonderful place to live |
| 21:27.32 | SunSparc | mindjuju: The Vilnius Schoolmaster. |
| 21:27.37 | SunSparc | Love that movie. |
| 21:27.42 | mindjuju | ^5 |
| 21:27.49 | mindjuju | sunsparc++ |
| 21:28.01 | SunSparc | ~mindjuju++ |
| 21:28.02 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:43.39 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: OH, that was a different launch, cool, thanks |