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00:29.27mindjujusrry
00:41.24beandogoh, man
00:41.28beandogque dia loco
00:41.53mindjujuaqui el mismo
00:43.48carmonyyo tambien
00:45.24carmonyya puedo ponder los acentos ahora, un ejemplo: si sé como usar los acentos! :P
00:45.31carmonyI like the new way you can use accents on the mac
00:45.59beandogcarmony: had to throw in "on the mac"
00:46.05beandog~rdf carmony
00:46.10carmonylol
00:46.10beandog;)
00:47.41beandogoy.
00:47.46beandogday is done, I don't feel like leaving.
00:48.09beandogI need to find a spider bot
00:49.47beandoghttp://www.pavuk.org/man.html
00:49.50beandogthat's a lot of options.
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05:19.39supernothere~8ball to be, or not to be?
05:19.40ibotNegative.
05:19.48supernothereFigured as much.
05:43.29supernothere~8ball should I bite the bullet?
05:43.29ibotI'm sure of it.
05:44.56supernothereThat probably sounds pretty morose.
06:12.26macnewbold~chuck-fact
06:12.40macnewbold$chuck-fact
06:12.41raifbotChuck Norris does simply walk into Mordor
11:38.27carmonyaaaaaaaarg I could murder OS X Lion
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12:35.39carmonyman, I'm gonna need some fungus help today :P
12:38.19jsmithcarmony: What'cha fighting today?
12:38.32carmonyjsmith: os x lion changed their resolve orders
12:38.37carmonyfor dns look ups
12:38.38carmonyso now
12:38.40jsmithEeeew....
12:38.44carmonyit'll check your DNS servers
12:38.46carmonybefore /etc/hosts
12:38.47carmonyi.e.
12:38.55jsmithThat's ugly...
12:39.03carmonyall my @(#$&@(#$&# dev domains for 127.0.0.1
12:39.06carmonynow take 5 seconds to resolve
12:39.08carmonyEACH TIME
12:42.21carmonyjsmith: I'm seriously ready to murder whoever decided that bonehead decision at apple
12:44.22eggyknap.oO("But no one uses /etc/hosts anymore!!1")
12:44.25eggyknapj/k :)
12:45.07jsmithcarmony: Is there something like /etc/nsswitch.conf to switch the order back?
12:45.23carmonynope
12:45.26carmonythey removed it
12:46.29jsmithcarmony: What if you try putting one domain name per IP address?
12:46.35jsmithcarmony: So instead of:
12:46.44jsmith127.0.0.1 one.domain.tld two.domain.tld
12:46.50jsmithyou have a separate line for each one?
12:46.53carmonyalready tried it
12:46.57jsmith:-/
12:47.24carmonyhttp://paste2.org/p/1545323
12:48.47carmonybrb, need to reboot
12:50.38carmonyactually, nvm
12:50.46carmonygot bind working w/o the reboot
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13:55.43influxGood morning.
13:56.22herlowow, And Yet It Moves (AYIM) is a pretty fun game!
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14:55.41ninnypantsmorning all
14:56.49Utah_Davemorning!
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15:07.34influxmorning, ninnypants
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15:10.41ninnypantsmornin
15:15.38influxSo, uh, Monster is available in cans that hold 32 oz of fluid.
15:15.54influx:S
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15:19.32josephscottcarmony: can you change the host/dns order in /etc/resolv.conf ?
15:19.41mahelious320 mg of caffeine...
15:21.08maheliousinflux: is it called "trucker size"?
15:24.04influxHaha. Close. "BFC"
15:24.53influxAnd the store I bought it from is catercorner from a truck stop.
15:27.00DexterTheDragoncarmony: is your /etc/hosts file symlinked?
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15:34.30josephscottcarmony: if you figure it out you need to write a post on how to switch them
15:34.49josephscotthosts should always be checked first, before DNS
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15:39.05Utah_DaveHappy System Admin Appreciation Day!
15:43.40influx~cookie mindjuju
15:43.58influxHuh.
15:44.32jsmith~cookie
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15:45.29tierraUtah_Dave: that's not until Friday
15:45.47Utah_Davewhat? dangit.
15:46.01tierraalways the last friday of July
15:47.10josephscottyep, the 29th
15:49.19Utah_DaveI'll have to update my wife's google calendar entry!
15:50.58fungusjosephscott, carmony, the order of host resolving is controlled in /etc/nsswitch.conf
15:51.28fungusshould be something like "hosts:  files dns"  or similar
15:51.43josephscottlion supports name switch service now?  that's cool
15:51.48jsmithfungus: Even on Lion?
15:51.52fungusoh, on a mac?  NVM
15:53.04josephscott:-)
15:54.26xtrementlso why would they switch the ordering of lookup?
15:54.32xtrementlif this is indeed the case
15:54.43jsmithSecurity against malware?
15:54.51jsmith(Security through stupidity?)
15:54.55xtrementllol
15:56.20fungusDid they really switch the order, or is there another service it's looking at.  I know previous versions consulted the local directory services before /etc/hosts
15:59.03josephscottwe'll have to wait for carmony to prove his case :-)
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16:35.44Utah_DaveFinally got all the approvals and funding to go to the Asterisk Advanced course. I've been trying to get work to send me for 4 or 5 years!
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16:49.01_clint_Utah_Dave: I just started working with FreeSwitch. Do you recommend using asterisk?
16:51.13mindjuju1~seen beandog
16:51.19ibotbeandog <~sdibb@gentoo/developer/beandog> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 16h 1m 29s ago, saying: 'that's a lot of options.'.
16:51.35PoeticIntensityI was at a company that switched to asterisk, and they loved it.
16:51.45PoeticIntensityWasn't the easiest conversion, but well worth it in the end.
16:52.47mgearyi'd have been interested in that...
16:52.55mgeary...if our fiber hadn't been screwed
16:52.58jsmithPoeticIntensity: Whee!
16:53.10PoeticIntensityhehe.... you were right there, too jsmith
16:53.19PoeticIntensityhelped out on numerous occasions...
16:53.26jsmithWell, you know... I help where I can :-)
16:54.03PoeticIntensityI love it when company executives try to wrap their heads around "helping each other out for free"...  Most of em' worry that an invoice is gonna come bite em'.
16:54.22PoeticIntensityI just wish I could help more.
16:55.38influx[Trust]
16:55.54jsmithTrust, but verify :-p
16:56.05influxYes yes. :)
16:56.33PoeticIntensitygetting familiar with your sources is also a good thing.
16:57.05jsmithYeah, that helps with the "trust" part
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17:11.48Utah_Dave_clint_: Asterisk is pretty awesome and has a pretty good community.
17:12.07Utah_DaveI've looked at Freeswitch a little, but haven't done anything with it.
17:12.29Utah_DaveSome people really like it.
17:13.17jsmithmgeary: Sure, just rub it in :-p
17:13.44Utah_Davejsmith really loves Microsoft Lync.
17:14.38jsmithUtah_Dave: Ah, man. You caught me red-handed.  I also love teddy bears, long walks on the beach, and... WAIT! WHAT?!?! ARE YOU CRAZY?!?
17:14.57Utah_Dave:) he he
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18:21.12unumstill no baby
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19:02.47carmonyokay, its a good thing it was Taco Wednesday... because it has been one crappy day otherwise
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19:06.07maheliouslync is skype for microsoft?
19:07.42mindjuju1pb and honey is V tasty
19:07.42macnewboldmahelious: skype works on microsoft OS's already
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19:09.31jsmithmindjuju1: Yeah, but it's easy to get bored of it
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19:18.11whyisjakeHave a #wordpress question
19:18.23whyisjakeIs there a way to see if a post is tagged with a category or tag?
19:18.24whyisjaketaxonomy_exists?
19:18.57whyisjakeWant a conditional to see if something has been tagged with my custom taxonomy.
19:19.04whyisjakeIf not, don't display anything.
19:20.34macnewboldwhyisjake: i know you can do it, you might be able to use get_terms() or something
19:20.52josephscottwhyisjake: http://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Tags/in_category ?
19:21.30josephscottor the has_tag() function
19:21.52josephscottlots of conditional options listed at http://codex.wordpress.org/Conditional_Tags
19:23.34whyisjakejosephscott: has_tag and in_category are close, but I don't want an array of every tag, I just want something that says, did you include a taxonomy?
19:24.07whyisjakeI thought this was close, but it doesn't work:
19:24.07whyisjakehttp://pastebin.com/VmFcc0u4
19:25.15josephscottdoes taxonomy_exists() not do what you want there?
19:26.27whyisjakeWell, on a post that doesn't have a taxonomy, I still get the hr/h4/p. It is thinking, yeah, the taxonomy exists, sure, we don't have any items on this post...
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