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| 14:47.14 | carmony | Monday morning image: http://csiphp.com/blog/2011/07/22/queries-inside-queries/ |
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| 15:21.17 | carmony | I need to stop putting off fixing things over new features for Clipish and DDNA :P |
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| 16:00.39 | mindjuju | ~apb josephscott |
| 16:00.39 | ibot | ACTION summons Dog the Bounty Hunter to find josephscott |
| 16:00.51 | josephscott | mindjuju: ? |
| 16:01.18 | mindjuju | hey, do you have any experience with CDN? origin pull / origin storage? |
| 16:02.26 | josephscott | lots of CDNs out there |
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| 16:02.49 | josephscott | were you looking at something specific? |
| 16:02.58 | mindjuju | i'm finding though, those terms / products are common between several |
| 16:03.07 | mindjuju | origin pull / origin storage |
| 16:03.15 | mindjuju | trying to determine which is better for us |
| 16:03.42 | josephscott | what sort of things are you looking at serving over the CDN? |
| 16:03.57 | mindjuju | images |
| 16:04.08 | josephscott | do they change very often? |
| 16:04.15 | josephscott | or at all? |
| 16:04.21 | mindjuju | 30 ~ 50 images per week change |
| 16:06.20 | josephscott | so you'll need to make sure you know what the policies are for the CDNs you are looking at for updates/flushing cache |
| 16:06.32 | josephscott | or come up with an image naming scheme that works around that |
| 16:08.12 | josephscott | and you may want to start out with something simple, like http://aws.amazon.com/cloudfront/ and see what your real world issues end up being |
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| 16:11.04 | mindjuju | we're looking at L3 CDN but looking at all options |
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| 16:15.36 | carmony | I've had a lot of success w/ Rackspace Cloud's CDN |
| 16:15.43 | carmony | pretty straight forward to use |
| 16:15.50 | josephscott | mindjuju: what prompted the idea of using a CDN? |
| 16:16.07 | carmony | probably your biggest determining factor would be cost :P |
| 16:16.15 | josephscott | or, what are you hoping to benefit from by using it? |
| 16:17.15 | mindjuju | the image server we're using pushed 11TB during our busy season, we're hoping to reduce lag / load improve load times |
| 16:17.37 | josephscott | cool |
| 16:17.38 | mindjuju | i know those nums are prolly peanuts for automattics, but high for us for a month |
| 16:17.53 | josephscott | 11TB is a pretty good amount |
| 16:18.07 | mindjuju | yar, i was pretty excited, geeked out a little |
| 16:18.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:18.11 | josephscott | was that per month? |
| 16:18.47 | josephscott | carmony: I believe rackspace cloud cdn is basically re-selling of Akamai |
| 16:18.58 | josephscott | from the various rumors that I recall |
| 16:19.44 | carmony | it is :P |
| 16:19.44 | mindjuju | yup, per month for a couple months |
| 16:20.00 | mindjuju | then it slows WAY down for the rest of the year |
| 16:22.07 | josephscott | if the bigger priority is increasing performance then CDN will likely be helpful, but likely more expensive that spinning up a server or two to host images |
| 16:22.26 | josephscott | gotta run for a bit, mindjuju I'm curious to hear what you end up going with in the end |
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| 17:07.25 | romanovic | anyone know of a good deli/restaurant in Orem with free wifi? |
| 17:09.17 | mindjuju | good thing i have an emergency can of soup |
| 17:11.19 | mahelious | i know a couple good delis. i know a few places with wifi. sadly i don't know of any convergence between those groups. |
| 17:11.37 | mindjuju | there is a paradise bakery in lehi |
| 17:11.47 | mindjuju | ihop in orem (not good, but wifi) |
| 17:12.00 | mindjuju | i think kneaders has wifi |
| 17:12.15 | mahelious | mmm...kneaders |
| 17:13.34 | romanovic | i went to kneaders last week, no wifi :( |
| 17:14.49 | romanovic | i'm not limiting myself to delis |
| 17:15.04 | romanovic | just anywhere that is fast and has food |
| 17:16.26 | romanovic | i could tether my blackberry... but that zaps the battery pretty quick |
| 17:20.19 | mindjuju | i think i have a zombie process that ISN'T zombiefied |
| 17:20.20 | mindjuju | :( |
| 17:20.33 | mindjuju | here is the details |
| 17:21.06 | mindjuju | i say this: service httpd status and it says httpd is stopped |
| 17:21.27 | mindjuju | i say: top and it says there are 5 httpd processes running |
| 17:21.35 | mindjuju | i think i'm in the bermuda triangle |
| 17:22.22 | mindjuju | the only way to bring things back into harmony is to killall httpd but then mysql didn't seemed pleased |
| 17:22.24 | mindjuju | any ideas? |
| 17:22.58 | mahelious | romanovic: urbanspoon says cafe zupas on center street has free wifi |
| 17:23.09 | mindjuju | that's good to know! |
| 17:23.21 | mindjuju | we're always looking for places for geek lunch |
| 17:23.31 | mindjuju | which technically is this weekend and i need to send out promo for it |
| 17:23.40 | mindjuju | @herlo, you in slc this week? |
| 17:23.56 | romanovic | mahelious: ah, i may check that out, thanks |
| 17:24.07 | josephscott | $google monday |
| 17:24.08 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=monday -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday -- http://thinkexist.com/quotes/with/keyword/monday/ -- http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dh81Ojd3d2rY |
| 17:24.59 | mahelious | dunno if it has wifi, but if i can recommend geek lunch, pizzeria712 would be fantastic |
| 17:25.52 | herlo | mindjuju: nope, memphis |
| 17:26.05 | herlo | mindjuju: but starting next week, I'm home for 3 straight weeks |
| 17:26.20 | mindjuju | @herlo, what thai place in the SLC do you recommend? |
| 17:26.27 | mindjuju | DtD, do you eat thai? |
| 17:26.37 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: no |
| 17:26.42 | herlo | mindjuju: um, thai siam is good |
| 17:26.52 | herlo | about 1400 S State street |
| 17:27.02 | mindjuju | @fungus, do you eat thai? |
| 17:27.24 | mindjuju | DtD, can think alternative for geek lunch this friday for up in layton? |
| 17:37.25 | mindjuju | herlo, do you recommend a pub food resturant in the SLC ? |
| 17:37.43 | mindjuju | DtD recommends roosters for layton, we don't have to theme the same |
| 17:37.49 | mindjuju | but just looking into it |
| 17:40.30 | herlo | mindjuju: macool's or green pig are good |
| 17:40.38 | herlo | s/mac/macc/ |
| 17:41.50 | mindjuju | www.maccools-utah.com fail? |
| 17:41.54 | mindjuju | or is that just me? |
| 17:42.22 | romanovic | mindjuju: server not found |
| 17:42.45 | romanovic | so not just you. Unless you are the one who broke it... |
| 17:43.44 | mindjuju | i wonder if there is such a thing as a "pub" in the UC ? |
| 17:44.45 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: there's also a MacCools in layton |
| 17:44.52 | mindjuju | yup i saw |
| 17:45.00 | mindjuju | you want to change roosters to maccools? |
| 17:45.08 | mindjuju | i haven't built any promo on it, so es cool |
| 17:45.20 | DexterTheDragon | either one works for me |
| 17:45.29 | DexterTheDragon | I know carmony would probably vote maccools |
| 17:45.40 | mindjuju | k, let's doo maccoools then |
| 17:47.10 | josephscott | $8ball would carmony really vote for maccools? |
| 17:47.11 | raifbot | josephscott - It is decidedly so. |
| 17:47.23 | carmony | Mmmmmmm |
| 17:47.25 | carmony | maccoools.... |
| 17:47.40 | carmony | I will go to maccools! |
| 17:49.23 | mindjuju | so have yall had an instance of when service says a process ISN'T running, but top says it is |
| 17:49.32 | mindjuju | and the web page IS coming up so it must be? |
| 17:49.38 | mindjuju | service in question is httpd |
| 17:50.33 | fungus | it's rare, but yes it can happen |
| 17:50.46 | mindjuju | this is 3rd time in 4 days |
| 17:50.53 | mindjuju | my server is the bermuda triangle |
| 17:51.04 | mindjuju | and i know who is doing it too |
| 17:52.25 | josephscott | what says the the process isn't running? |
| 17:53.07 | mindjuju | service httpd status says httpd is stopped |
| 17:53.15 | mindjuju | i think i may have just fixed it though |
| 17:53.19 | mgeary | bah |
| 17:53.26 | josephscott | that may just be checking a pid file |
| 17:53.39 | mindjuju | the monit instructions for restarting server said /etc/init.d/httpd start |
| 17:53.46 | mindjuju | but it should be service httpd start |
| 17:53.52 | mindjuju | could that foob this? |
| 17:53.58 | josephscott | so it isn't really checking if the service is running, it would just be checking if the pid file exists and has a valid pid in it |
| 17:54.25 | mgeary | so our "80,000 mile" tires are apparently worn down "to a 2 out of 10" after about 20k miles. We're going on a road trip to Calgary/Banff on Friday. Can anyone recommend a tire place that won't try to screw over my wife? |
| 17:54.43 | mindjuju | discount tires |
| 17:54.45 | mahelious | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.03 | mindjuju | they fix flat tires for free whether you bought them there or no |
| 17:55.03 | mahelious | or big o. found comparable prices. |
| 17:55.06 | mindjuju | great customer service |
| 17:55.24 | mindjuju | sams club if you're looking for cheap / no service |
| 17:56.34 | josephscott | mgeary: if they were 80k tires shouldn't the be replacing them for you for free, or at the very least a pro-rated cost? |
| 17:57.04 | mindjuju | @josephscott (whispered) maybe she's hard on the gas? |
| 17:57.22 | mgeary | josephscott: well, i need to approach them (Les Schwab) about that. However, i suspect they'll say, "well, yeah, but our records show that you didn't use us for tire rotations, so you don't get any guarantee" |
| 17:57.42 | mgeary | i need to see what paperwork i can scrounge up |
| 17:57.57 | mindjuju | oh wait, i guess that would be the brakes |
| 17:58.11 | josephscott | mgeary: you should at least call them and find out |
| 17:58.12 | mindjuju | so mgeary, does she drive Indy 500 style? |
| 17:58.42 | mgeary | ~beat mindjuju |
| 17:58.42 | ibot | ACTION beats mindjuju with a dripping-wet & less-than-fresh fish |
| 17:58.49 | josephscott | mini-van than can spin the tires? ;-) |
| 17:59.19 | mindjuju | my thoughts exactly |
| 17:59.35 | mindjuju | a brake-rider will also wear tires faster |
| 17:59.49 | mindjuju | or maybe it wears brakes faster |
| 17:59.52 | mindjuju | i don't really know |
| 18:02.50 | fungus | mindjuju, only if the brake-rider locks the brakes up so it skids. |
| 18:03.22 | mindjuju | ah true |
| 18:03.26 | mindjuju | so it's more of a brake thing |
| 18:03.42 | mindjuju | so fungus, since i have you here, have you been to maccools? |
| 18:03.49 | fungus | nope |
| 18:04.46 | mindjuju | can't see if they have veggie stuff there, their site is down |
| 18:05.05 | fungus | everywhere has something, usually. Don't worry about me. |
| 18:05.37 | mindjuju | tasty, but nothing for the vegetarian :( |
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| 19:38.02 | mindjuju | so josephscott, did you put that onjoin? |
| 19:38.14 | josephscott | ? |
| 19:38.29 | mindjuju | every time you join the chan, ibot is posting that URL |
| 19:38.35 | mindjuju | watch, leave and come back |
| 19:39.23 | jsmith | ~onjoin #UPHPU -josephscott |
| 19:39.23 | ibot | ok, jsmith |
| 19:39.27 | josephscott | I didn't do it |
| 19:39.37 | jsmith | It's gone now... or should be (if I got the syntax correct) |
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| 19:40.30 | DexterTheDragon | herlo set it |
| 19:40.36 | mindjuju | oh |
| 19:41.08 | josephscott | ahhh, in regards to my question about why he wants to switch from tmobile to sprint |
| 19:41.26 | josephscott | ~onjoin #uphpu -josephscott |
| 19:41.26 | ibot | ok, josephscott |
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| 19:41.44 | josephscott | better? |
| 19:41.53 | mindjuju | es better |
| 19:44.55 | jsmith | Muy better :-) |
| 19:46.29 | josephscott | $8ball is it better? |
| 19:46.29 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes - definitely. |
| 19:47.10 | mindjuju | hmm, i guess there was something impeding football and now its over? |
| 19:47.12 | josephscott | the $8ball stamp of approval |
| 20:23.14 | ninnypants | mindjuju DexterTheDragon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY1DMYET_-U |
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| 21:30.52 | josephscott | for those that may be using myisam on mysql for full text indexing: |
| 21:30.52 | josephscott | http://blogs.innodb.com/wp/2011/07/overview-and-getting-started-with-innodb-fts/ |
| 21:30.57 | josephscott | and http://blogs.innodb.com/wp/2011/07/difference-between-innodb-fts-and-myisam-fts/ |
| 21:37.09 | mindjuju | ~apb sunsparc |
| 21:37.09 | ibot | ACTION summons Tim to rough up sunsparc |
| 22:04.08 | mindjuju | ~apb mgeary |
| 22:04.08 | ibot | ACTION summons Duane Lee to find mgeary |
| 22:06.05 | herlo | mindjuju: http://snipurl.com/sr46q - thought you might like this tatto I found :) |
| 22:06.28 | herlo | oops, weird |
| 22:06.30 | herlo | hang on |
| 22:12.57 | herlo | mindjuju: okay, here it is, just for you! http://snipurl.com/site/index |
| 22:13.00 | herlo | ergh! |
| 22:13.07 | herlo | http://snipurl.com/ska2v <-- this one! |
| 22:13.10 | mindjuju | curious |
| 22:13.20 | skinner | Even better: http://bit.ly/k0zzWH |
| 22:13.23 | herlo | snipurl is just a shortening site! |
| 22:13.27 | mindjuju | oh that's awesome |
| 22:13.35 | herlo | skinner: nice! |
| 22:13.43 | mindjuju | that's funny herlo! |
| 22:13.50 | herlo | mindjuju: thought you'd like that as a 'no audio' rickroll! :) |
| 22:13.58 | mindjuju | man, i need to find a pub in UC for friday |
| 22:14.06 | herlo | the first one I found was on amazon aws and expired... |
| 22:14.13 | skinner | One for work: http://bit.ly/r3FOqX |
| 22:14.16 | herlo | mindjuju: there are no *pubs* in UC :) |
| 22:14.20 | skinner | maybe bathroom door |
| 22:14.38 | mindjuju | what should we do for a geek lunch in the UC? |
| 22:15.13 | herlo | mindjuju: one man band |
| 22:15.28 | herlo | there's one in PG and one in AF |
| 22:15.47 | herlo | also in Spanish Fork and Payson, too |
| 22:15.53 | herlo | Lehi as well |
| 22:15.55 | mindjuju | i'm thinking wingnuts, but so far from freeway |
| 22:16.10 | herlo | mindjuju: OMB is right off the freeway in Lehi |
| 22:16.37 | herlo | mindjuju: there's a wing place in AF off 5th east iirc |
| 22:17.00 | herlo | mindjuju: http://www.wingshak.com/ |
| 22:17.39 | herlo | pretty good place, too |
| 22:17.50 | mindjuju | maybe we'll do that |
| 22:17.58 | mindjuju | i'm out of time, i want to give as much notice as possible |
| 22:18.09 | mindjuju | even though last geek lunch had like 15 people there in the UC alone |
| 22:18.11 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:18.53 | herlo | well, that's good |
| 22:19.06 | herlo | you could go to JCW's |
| 22:19.20 | herlo | in AF, there's also a wing place behind there, too. Near DI iirc |
| 22:19.27 | PoeticIntensity | JCW's is good. |
| 22:19.28 | herlo | lots of choices |
| 22:19.36 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: yes, I concur |
| 22:19.40 | herlo | :P |
| 22:20.19 | PoeticIntensity | ...and now there's one in Provo! |
| 22:21.14 | herlo | nice |
| 22:21.24 | herlo | Provo is a bit far for me, I'm in MEMPHIS! |
| 22:21.44 | mindjuju | some mighty fine bbq in memphis |
| 22:21.48 | mindjuju | MIGHTY fine |
| 22:22.04 | herlo | yup, we're going to a local joint on Wednesday, called Corky's |
| 22:22.17 | herlo | you don't know? |
| 22:22.26 | herlo | it's your life, why question it ?? |
| 22:22.34 | mindjuju | i don't remember, that was back in 1996 |
| 22:22.40 | mindjuju | err, maybe it was 95 |
| 22:22.41 | herlo | :-D |
| 22:22.46 | herlo | mindjuju: you is OLD! |
| 22:23.05 | herlo | I can say that, 'cause I'm OLDer! |
| 22:23.12 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:27.55 | carmony | herlo: nice, I met some PHP people from memphis |
| 22:28.05 | mindjuju | @herlo, i figure i'm old enough now that i can legitimately point at things with my middle finger and it's ok |
| 22:28.20 | carmony | mindjuju: LOL, I'm gonna use that someday |
| 22:28.31 | unum | mindjuju: have you seen lie to me? |
| 22:28.34 | mindjuju | dude, you ain't old enough ya whippersnapper! |
| 22:28.49 | mindjuju | $8ball is carmony older than 30 ? |
| 22:28.50 | raifbot | mindjuju - It is certain. |
| 22:28.58 | mindjuju | oh, well maybe you are old neough then |
| 22:29.02 | mindjuju | @unum, haven't seen |
| 22:29.52 | carmony | mindjuju: nope |
| 22:29.56 | carmony | mindjuju: in 2 years |
| 22:30.12 | mindjuju | yeah, you're not old enough to point with middle finger ;) |
| 22:30.21 | carmony | mindjuju: I know, that is why I said "someday" :P |
| 22:30.26 | unum | in one episode the main character claims that people will subconsicouly use their middle finger as a sign of disrespect |
| 22:30.55 | mindjuju | i think next birthday, i'm going to start saying ott, like "back in ott five, i got my first laptop" |
| 22:31.01 | mindjuju | how ever you spell that |
| 22:32.45 | carmony | haha |
| 22:32.51 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:32.54 | herlo | lol, nice |
| 22:33.07 | mindjuju | sorry i missed your preso carmony, i was planning on making that and something came up |
| 22:33.13 | mindjuju | i'll be there fo sho at the next one |
| 22:36.15 | mgeary | ~ping mindjuju |
| 22:36.15 | ibot | pong mindjuju |
| 22:36.35 | mgeary | and i must say, i'm very pleasantly surprised |
| 22:36.44 | mindjuju | mgeary, can do geek lunch at wingshak this friday at 1p in AF? |
| 22:36.49 | mindjuju | where did you go for tires? |
| 22:37.22 | mgeary | mindjuju: that's a negative on lunch. I'll be out of town on Friday |
| 22:37.30 | mgeary | so i went to Les Schwab |
| 22:37.33 | mindjuju | oh that's right, calgary |
| 22:37.45 | mgeary | and apparently they do give you a pro-rated credit against your tire warranty |
| 22:37.56 | mindjuju | good deal! |
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| 22:38.50 | josephscott | never hurts to ask, worst that can happen is they tell you no |
| 22:39.03 | mgeary | so i had 35k miles against 80k-mile-rated tires, so i got a ~53% credit. paid $229 out the door for 4 new Toyo Eclispe all-season tires |
| 22:39.10 | mgeary | so i was pretty happy |
| 22:39.19 | iammerrick | Any of you dudes have 5.4 installed yet :) |
| 22:43.10 | iammerrick | Does this group every talk about php? |
| 22:43.10 | iammerrick | haha |
| 22:43.13 | iammerrick | :P |
| 22:43.32 | josephscott | what's PHP? ;-) |
| 22:43.39 | josephscott | $google PHP |
| 22:43.40 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=PHP -- http://www.php.net/ -- http://php.net/downloads.php -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP |
| 22:45.55 | iammerrick | hehe |
| 22:45.56 | iammerrick | just saying |
| 22:46.04 | skinner | iammerrick: sup dude! |
| 22:46.08 | iammerrick | I join in here but it seems php is rarely the topic |
| 22:46.13 | iammerrick | skinner: what up brothe :D |
| 22:46.31 | skinner | iammerrick: Just chillin workin |
| 22:46.43 | iammerrick | skinner: how is the job you liking it? |
| 22:46.48 | skinner | ya |
| 22:46.55 | iammerrick | skinner: thats great man |
| 22:47.05 | skinner | you gonna be at the shack this wednesday? |
| 22:48.19 | iammerrick | skinner: no clue hehe what is wednesday? |
| 22:49.45 | skinner | iammerrick: nothing i know of. Isn't that when you usually eat with Ken? |
| 22:49.50 | skinner | from here |
| 22:53.02 | skinner | iammerrick: Something like a weekly lunch you guys do with him? |
| 22:53.19 | iammerrick | skinner: oh we do something for the javascript groupd |
| 22:53.27 | skinner | ah |
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| 23:01.57 | mindjuju | what happens when a load balancer runs out of servers to route traffic to? Can it default a message saying something? |
| 23:07.51 | herlo | mindjuju: runs out? |
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| 23:45.51 | mindjuju | @herlo, like all the other servers are incapacitated |
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