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| 01:27.55 | skinner | Shhh! Teaching us, carmony is.... |
| 01:29.42 | macnewbold | ~seen josephscott |
| 01:29.45 | ibot | josephscott <~josephsco@104.2.233.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 2h 3m 8s ago, saying: 'then you better hope you brought that extra set of clean underwear in the glovebox'. |
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| 01:36.34 | beandog | yay I haz internet |
| 01:37.06 | beandog | hack the planet! |
| 01:39.12 | beandog | carmony: spriteme.com for making sprites |
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| 01:44.03 | beandog | I haz a smart |
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| 01:48.17 | beandog | I can only use one per day |
| 01:48.57 | skinner | oic |
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| 02:08.20 | herlo | beandog: ask him to pronounce 'skein' :) |
| 02:16.13 | skinner | Somebody should wake up carmony....he's missing the whole presentation... |
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| 02:19.28 | beandog | skinner: lol |
| 02:19.39 | beandog | someone tell him there's cookies |
| 02:32.40 | utahcon | ~seen fungus |
| 02:32.42 | ibot | fungus <~olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 3h 7m 48s ago, saying: 'beandog, nope, C7 is a clothing optional place.'. |
| 02:32.49 | utahcon | 3 hours! |
| 02:32.51 | utahcon | geez |
| 02:36.17 | beandog | hurry up! my battery is draining |
| 02:38.32 | beandog | carmony: awesome job, man |
| 02:38.34 | beandog | *golf clap* |
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| 05:16.43 | mgeary | anyone around to help me brainstorm something? |
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| 15:10.33 | josephscott | bummed I wasn't able to make it last night, how did it go? |
| 15:10.55 | macnewbold | it was really good |
| 15:11.06 | macnewbold | carmony gave an awesome talk on how to figure out what your php apps are doing |
| 15:11.29 | macnewbold | (along with all the related stuff, i.e. network, underlying hardware, db, and remote web services) |
| 15:19.01 | mahelious | so what is XHProf and XHGui? |
| 15:22.08 | _clint_ | I believe carmony said XHGui is a fork of XHProf. But it allows you to profile a percentage of your traffic to get an idea of how you are performing overall. They also put it in a nice GUI display so it is easy to read and see what is going on. http://blog.preinheimer.com/uploads/2010-06-14_1115.png |
| 15:24.38 | herlo | hi _clint_ |
| 15:24.57 | _clint_ | Oh sorry, I must have come in the middle of your conversation |
| 15:25.07 | _clint_ | I thought he was posing the question to the group |
| 15:25.16 | herlo | _clint_: nope, I am just saying hello |
| 15:25.24 | _clint_ | Hello :-) |
| 15:25.27 | herlo | I don't know if there was another conversation |
| 15:25.45 | herlo | _clint_: I'm guessing you attended UPHPU last night? I heard it was pretty good. |
| 15:26.05 | _clint_ | It was great. Carmony is a great presenter |
| 15:26.08 | herlo | maybe next month... |
| 15:26.20 | _clint_ | Chicago? I guess you used to live in Utah? |
| 15:26.20 | herlo | yes, he sure is! |
| 15:26.27 | herlo | _clint_: I still live in Utah |
| 15:26.31 | herlo | about 2 weeks a month |
| 15:26.35 | josephscott | haha |
| 15:26.42 | herlo | but I travel for a living |
| 15:26.57 | _clint_ | herlo: That sounds fun |
| 15:27.02 | herlo | sometimes |
| 15:27.32 | herlo | lately, it's been a bit rougher than normal. I'm looking forward to being home a good portion of August and September. |
| 15:27.32 | _clint_ | herlo: I am assuming you are involved in some sort of web industry. What causes you to travel? |
| 15:27.32 | mgeary | news about Lion: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/enterprise-apps/2011/07/22/mac-os-x-lion-causes-problems-for-adobe-users-40093497/ |
| 15:27.55 | josephscott | mgeary: adobe and apple not getting along isn't news ;-) |
| 15:28.12 | herlo | _clint_: I teach Red Hat classes and consult for them as well. I also do a little consulting from time to time for other companies in Utah as well. |
| 15:28.14 | mgeary | no, but the fact that Flash or Photoshop may not work once you upgrade is |
| 15:28.27 | herlo | mgeary: meh |
| 15:28.36 | herlo | you don't need Flash with HTML5! |
| 15:28.37 | herlo | :P |
| 15:28.49 | herlo | and who needs Photoshop when you have gimp. |
| 15:28.53 | herlo | er, THE GIMP |
| 15:28.55 | mgeary | heh |
| 15:28.57 | mahelious | thats funny, since all the shop geeks i know cant quit singing apples praises |
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| 15:29.03 | _clint_ | mgeary: Thanks for the heads up. I need my photoshop. I won't be upgrading any time soon |
| 15:29.26 | mgeary | okay, so i need some brainstorming help on a potential need of a client |
| 15:29.30 | herlo | photoshop is damned expensive. |
| 15:29.56 | _clint_ | herlo: very true. |
| 15:29.58 | mahelious | i feel the pain though, i was sad when i upped XP to W7 and found out flashpaper2 died |
| 15:31.02 | mgeary | they want to be able to let partner vendors list products on their website and track sales. Basically it's the opposite end of an affiliate sales system. My client wants to do affiliate sales for any number of unrelated vendors. Initial research indicates that none of these vendors have affiliate systems already in place |
| 15:31.40 | mgeary | but the vendors are willing to put tracking code on the "thank you" page of a given order, which would track a sale |
| 15:32.42 | influx | http://i.imgur.com/OX6Oe.jpg |
| 15:32.44 | mgeary | i've implemented affiliate sale tracking before, but it was always from the perspective of a vendor who had any number of affiliates pushing their products, not the other way around |
| 15:33.19 | _clint_ | mgeary: So your client has an online store, and they want to be able to put vendor's products on their store? |
| 15:33.36 | mgeary | well, they won't own the checkout process |
| 15:34.05 | _clint_ | Oh okay, so it is a "store" with affiliate links that redirects to the vendor's store |
| 15:34.08 | mgeary | so clicking on a listed product would presumably set a cookie, and redirect to the vendor of that product |
| 15:34.12 | mgeary | right |
| 15:34.40 | mahelious | not even the internet can kill the middle man, eh? |
| 15:34.52 | mgeary | then the vendors would presumably need to embed code that would use the cookie to inform some internal or 3rd -party system that the sale has been completed |
| 15:35.05 | mgeary | (internal to my client, not to the vendor0 |
| 15:35.10 | mgeary | *vendor) |
| 15:35.45 | influx | mgeary: So this issue only applies to people who are *upgrading*, yes? |
| 15:35.56 | mgeary | influx: as opposed to what? |
| 15:36.27 | influx | As opposed to re-formatting the HD and installing fresh. |
| 15:36.40 | _clint_ | mgeary: none of these vendors have an affiliate program setup? |
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| 15:38.42 | _clint_ | mgeary: Because if that is the case, I seriously doubt they will just trust your clients tracking system without verifying it themselves. |
| 15:39.38 | _clint_ | mgeary: meaning the vendors |
| 15:42.38 | mgeary | well, no, that's the point |
| 15:42.48 | mgeary | the vendors will own the sale |
| 15:43.21 | mgeary | they would need to add tracking code on the sale completion page that would notify a system that a sale had been completed |
| 15:44.59 | _clint_ | mgeary: Potentially, you could put a malicious tracking pixel that took credit for every sale, correct? |
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| 15:45.51 | _clint_ | mgeary: Which is why people host their own affiliate tracking software, or use a network |
| 15:47.11 | mgeary | well, right. I would prefer to use some existing 3rd-party system to handle this |
| 15:47.58 | mgeary | i've found a few, but they all tend to assume that you, the user, are the product vendor |
| 15:48.06 | mgeary | which makes sense |
| 15:48.10 | _clint_ | yeah, to prevent fraud |
| 15:48.56 | mgeary | influx: oh |
| 15:49.19 | influx | :) |
| 15:49.22 | mgeary | no idea, but the impression i get is that everyone might want to wait for updates from Adobe before upgrading to Lion |
| 15:50.21 | influx | Aye. |
| 15:56.28 | josephscott | $8ball should everyone wait for Adobe? |
| 15:56.29 | raifbot | josephscott - Don't count on it. |
| 15:56.38 | beandog | monin |
| 15:57.02 | mgeary | another scenario to consider would be one where we facilitate/assist vendors who don't already have a tracking system in place to get started with one |
| 15:57.12 | mgeary | but that seems like you'd fight a lot of battles |
| 15:58.51 | _clint_ | mgeary: True, but I think that might be your only option. You could manage it all for them, and give them logins for reporting. |
| 15:59.00 | mgeary | shudder |
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| 16:00.16 | _clint_ | mgeary: :-) |
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| 16:04.39 | tierra | mgeary: I'm not sure my idea is completely possible to setup the way you want, but HasOffers is an affiliate system with an API to manage just about anything in there including setting up affiliate accounts, offers, and approving affiliates for certain offers, so you might be able to work the system backwards and hand out iframe / image tracking codes for the offers to affiliates, and use the tracking links yourself that way |
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| 16:06.20 | mgeary | maybe so |
| 16:07.18 | tierra | it's not cheap though for an account with access to the API |
| 16:07.37 | mgeary | yeah |
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| 16:08.08 | fungus | carmony, your strace slide shows some fun curses like interface. How'd you do that? |
| 16:09.36 | carmony | fungus: htop |
| 16:09.44 | carmony | in htop, select a process and hit "s" |
| 16:09.50 | carmony | and it'll start strace |
| 16:09.58 | carmony | attach the process for you |
| 16:10.03 | fungus | oh cool. |
| 16:10.15 | herlo | lol, the non-admin taught the super-admin :) |
| 16:10.38 | herlo | fungus: if you haven't played with htop, I highly recommend it. I show it all the time in my training classes. |
| 16:10.43 | fungus | of course, there's always room to learn. |
| 16:10.55 | herlo | fungus: I know, that's what is great about it |
| 16:10.58 | fungus | I never really bothered with htop. |
| 16:11.01 | herlo | s/it/IT/ |
| 16:11.38 | herlo | fungus: yeah, it has also the ability to increase or decrease (as root) the nice value of any process. Can't do that with top |
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| 16:11.56 | herlo | you can also mark several processes and act on all of them at once |
| 16:12.28 | herlo | if that's not enough, you can scroll past the bottom and invert the sort so you can see what you really want to see. |
| 16:12.32 | fungus | interesting, I must have disregarded it mainly because it's not installed by default. |
| 16:12.59 | herlo | fungus: yeah, I like top and it still has a few things that htop doesn't, like the uptime and stats at the top |
| 16:13.36 | herlo | when I do, though, top is *history*! |
| 16:13.53 | fungus | hehe. |
| 16:15.40 | beandog | herlo: huh? htop shows uptime |
| 16:15.45 | beandog | or did you mean for each process |
| 16:16.21 | herlo | beandog: yup, I meant the system stats, like si, so, etc |
| 16:16.32 | fungus | eww, htop looks like crap on 8+CPU machines. |
| 16:16.48 | herlo | fungus: oh, 8 cpus is kind of rough |
| 16:16.59 | herlo | I have 4 and it's not bad |
| 16:17.19 | beandog | herlo: did you play around with setup (F2) |
| 16:19.31 | herlo | yep, dooing that now |
| 16:19.41 | herlo | fungus: yeah, you can delete the cpus from there, or spread them out |
| 16:19.53 | herlo | you can just have *single* average |
| 16:20.03 | herlo | or you could put four on the left and four on the right :) |
| 16:20.09 | fungus | Yeah, I see that now. But i'm now stuck on hitting F10. :) |
| 16:20.18 | fungus | gnome-terminal hijacks that |
| 16:21.32 | herlo | lol |
| 16:21.40 | herlo | yeah, I guess we'll have to figure that out |
| 16:21.54 | herlo | fungus: 'q' works |
| 16:22.04 | fungus | cool, thanks |
| 16:22.30 | fungus | nice, the changes persist across invocations |
| 16:22.44 | herlo | yes, I'm guessing there's a .rc file |
| 16:22.54 | fungus | .htoprc |
| 16:22.57 | herlo | :) |
| 16:23.00 | herlo | there you go |
| 16:23.37 | fungus | ooh, turn off margin around header in display options. |
| 16:23.46 | fungus | This is fun |
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| 16:24.22 | cycokilr | nerds |
| 16:24.34 | herlo | thanks |
| 16:24.34 | fungus | thank you |
| 16:24.34 | cycokilr | haha |
| 16:24.51 | herlo | fungus: I considered turning off the margin, guess I will now |
| 16:25.30 | fungus | Ok, thanks carmony, herlo, beandog. This is really cool. |
| 16:25.37 | beandog | :) |
| 16:25.47 | herlo | :) |
| 16:26.37 | herlo | fungus: you know, we could do a whole presentation on 'new tools' at a LUG meeting. I think there's a bunch out there to show. |
| 16:26.48 | herlo | 10-15 minutes per tool, show some cool configs and such |
| 16:28.12 | fungus | no kidding. I bet there's a lot more 'new tools' that I have no clue about. |
| 16:29.10 | beandog | herlo: that'd be cool |
| 16:29.20 | beandog | fungus: unfoo is one of my favorites |
| 16:29.22 | beandog | that nobody else uses |
| 16:29.22 | herlo | htop is many in a list of tools that most people don't know about, I'm sure |
| 16:29.35 | herlo | beandog: I don't have that installed |
| 16:29.47 | beandog | http://obsoleet.org/code/unfoo/ |
| 16:29.52 | fungus | $google unfoo |
| 16:29.53 | raifbot | fungus searching http://www.google.com/search?q=unfoo -- http://obsoleet.org/code/unfoo/ -- http://ftp.heanet.ie/disk1/gentoo-portage/app-misc/unfoo/ -- http://blog.uggy.org/post/2006/01/27/70-unfoo-script-de-decompression-multi-formats |
| 16:30.08 | herlo | nothing :( |
| 16:30.25 | beandog | comes in really handy |
| 16:30.41 | herlo | hmm, maybe I should package that today |
| 16:30.51 | beandog | herlo: I would love you if you did. |
| 16:31.00 | herlo | beandog: you know that pydf is in fedora now, right? |
| 16:31.46 | herlo | beandog: $ yum list pydf |
| 16:31.46 | herlo | Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit |
| 16:31.46 | herlo | Available Packages |
| 16:31.47 | herlo | pydf.noarch 9-3.fc15 updates |
| 16:31.52 | herlo | ugh, meant do do this |
| 16:31.54 | herlo | http://fpaste.org/uu20/ |
| 16:33.01 | beandog | herlo: thats awesome |
| 16:33.02 | beandog | pydf++ |
| 16:33.16 | fungus | "after hours on the evening of the 2ndth" |
| 16:33.22 | fungus | lol |
| 16:33.45 | fungus | "or prior to business opening on the morning of the 3rdth" |
| 16:33.56 | herlo | fungus: what's that from? |
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| 16:34.16 | fungus | A maintenance announcement from CableOne |
| 16:34.29 | herlo | lol |
| 16:34.30 | herlo | nice |
| 16:34.34 | fungus | really sad. |
| 16:34.47 | herlo | yes |
| 16:34.58 | herlo | but funny, nonetheless |
| 16:35.12 | beandog | http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6921 |
| 16:35.15 | beandog | cool. kinda. |
| 16:36.43 | mahelious | meh. i'll take anydvd+handbrake over their drm. |
| 16:36.58 | beandog | yah good point |
| 16:39.23 | beandog | ~seen skinner |
| 16:39.27 | ibot | skinner <~DSkinner@192.41.96.70> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 14h 23m 14s ago, saying: 'Somebody should wake up carmony....he's missing the whole presentation...'. |
| 16:40.20 | xtrementl | amen to that |
| 16:41.00 | mahelious | blonde_devil has an interesting point though. having a website to download desktop, ipad, ipod, android, etc. versions of the film from after registering a BD purchase would be pretty slick |
| 16:45.48 | josephscott | oh r2d2 how could you http://devour.com/video/star-wars-smoking-psa/ |
| 16:47.38 | beandog | lol |
| 16:47.39 | beandog | oh wow |
| 16:47.49 | mahelious | oh my |
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| 16:50.52 | beandog | http://devour.com/video/fabio-is-the-new-old-spice-guy/ |
| 16:53.59 | mahelious | ive been using that fiji stuff for a month. now im so ashamed |
| 16:54.23 | jsmith | mahelious: I prefer the Matterhorn smell :-p |
| 16:55.23 | herlo | beandog: http://sexysexypenguins.com/2011/07/22/packaging-update-pydf-now-in-fedora/ |
| 16:55.35 | beandog | ~herlo++ |
| 16:55.58 | herlo | beandog: I've got a few other packaging updates to do, I'm sure I'll get them up soon-ish |
| 16:56.04 | beandog | :) |
| 16:56.21 | mahelious | jsmith: the real matterhorn smells like marijuana and cold, slow death |
| 16:56.27 | mahelious | talk about false advertising |
| 16:56.41 | jsmith | mahelious: Good to know... |
| 16:57.42 | skinner | mahelious: So true! |
| 16:58.09 | skinner | Don't forget the cold wet mildew smell |
| 16:58.32 | beandog | wow, new spiderman looks amazing |
| 16:58.45 | beandog | mahelious: lol, thx for that |
| 16:58.52 | beandog | yay skinner wb |
| 17:02.57 | mahelious | hm, never heard of the wild rose before. going to have to check it out. |
| 17:05.35 | herlo | beandog: I'm concerned a bit about unfoo and foo |
| 17:05.41 | beandog | oh |
| 17:06.36 | herlo | well, unfoo seems okay, but it was last touched in 2009 |
| 17:06.54 | herlo | foo, on the other hand, appears to have disappeared |
| 17:07.00 | beandog | Ive never used food |
| 17:07.03 | beandog | foo |
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| 17:07.40 | herlo | yeah, so I might email the maintainer and see what's up with that... |
| 17:07.44 | Jacob_Kerr | Good morning Utah! |
| 17:07.58 | jsmith | Morning, still? |
| 17:08.10 | beandog | technically |
| 17:08.35 | jsmith | beandog: It's always morning somewhere on the Internet! |
| 17:08.39 | beandog | buenos dias! |
| 17:08.40 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: unfoo was updated in march of this year https://github.com/DexterTheDragon/dotfiles/blob/master/bin/unfoo |
| 17:08.44 | beandog | the sun never sets on the Internet! |
| 17:09.04 | jsmith | beandog: Buenos dias -- ¿y como estamos este dia? |
| 17:09.15 | beandog | jsmith: todo bien. y vos |
| 17:09.32 | beandog | estoy mirando videos estupidos |
| 17:09.46 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: hmm |
| 17:09.52 | herlo | do you maintain unfoo? |
| 17:10.20 | DexterTheDragon | no, I just made some changes to it |
| 17:10.23 | herlo | because from what I see, http://obsoleet.org/code/unfoo/ is the canonical reference |
| 17:10.32 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: did you send your patches 'upstream'? |
| 17:10.51 | DexterTheDragon | nope |
| 17:11.11 | jsmith | beandog: Con mucho trabajo, y menos tiempo para charlar en español |
| 17:11.18 | DexterTheDragon | if I was able to clone from his repo I would probably do something with it |
| 17:11.54 | herlo | why couldn't you clone from his repo? |
| 17:12.05 | herlo | http://git.obsoleet.org/ |
| 17:12.13 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: ^^ |
| 17:12.30 | beandog | jsmith: de veras |
| 17:12.34 | DexterTheDragon | yeah, I've tried but it's never worked |
| 17:13.01 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: interesting, I guess I should try |
| 17:14.44 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: did it just hang ?? |
| 17:14.58 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 17:15.29 | herlo | same here. I guess I'll email the guy |
| 17:17.23 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: obsoleet.org[0: 198.145.64.137]: errno=Connection timed out |
| 17:17.24 | DexterTheDragon | fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out) |
| 17:18.05 | fungus | werks fer me |
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| 17:18.34 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: you got it to clone? |
| 17:18.57 | fungus | oh, not clone, misunderstood |
| 17:19.07 | Jacob_Kerr | Yes until 12 it's morning. |
| 17:19.29 | Jacob_Kerr | But I have been up for awhile just got back from second interview :) |
| 17:19.38 | herlo | fungus: hehe |
| 17:25.41 | fungus | fatal: https://obsoleet.org/unfoo.git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? |
| 17:26.24 | beandog | Jacob_Kerr: yah did it go off well |
| 17:26.44 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah I'm pretty sure I got the job :) |
| 17:27.03 | beandog | woots |
| 17:27.42 | Jacob_Kerr | Yes!!. |
| 17:27.42 | beandog | http://devour.com/video/fabio-is-the-new-old-spice-guy/ |
| 17:28.38 | Jacob_Kerr | LOL |
| 17:34.18 | skinner | To understand the next video, one must have seen this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AJmKkU5POA |
| 17:35.00 | skinner | Then you can understand this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjaZNYSt7o0 |
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| 17:44.48 | Jacob_Kerr | LOL love that music video! |
| 17:45.40 | carmony | skinner: wow |
| 17:45.41 | skinner | Shooting russian unicorns.... |
| 17:45.48 | skinner | I wanna shave that mustache then have gelato |
| 17:46.09 | beandog | man |
| 17:46.27 | Jacob_Kerr | yeah it's full of awsomeness. |
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| 17:48.33 | skinner | I drink fire water |
| 17:49.09 | skinner | I don't need the keys to your van, what I need is a rare, vermillion, ukranian unicorn.... |
| 17:50.18 | skinner | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5DvQgIKe2M&feature=watch_response |
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| 18:26.28 | Jacob_Edmond_Ker | heh. |
| 18:26.35 | Jacob_Edmond_Ker | Thanx for the name change :) |
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| 18:31.21 | Jacob_Kerr | .. |
| 18:31.41 | beandog | hmm |
| 18:31.46 | beandog | anyone have an opinion on appletv vs roku ? |
| 18:32.10 | DexterTheDragon | roku > appletv |
| 18:34.00 | mgeary | i don't have an opinion of roku, but i've been very happy with my AppleTV |
| 18:37.23 | SunSparc | ~AppleTV++ |
| 18:39.05 | carmony | SunSparc: do you have a 2nd gen one |
| 18:39.25 | SunSparc | carmony: I have both. |
| 18:39.32 | carmony | I've heard you can hack around roku pretty well if you know what you're doing |
| 18:39.42 | carmony | AppleTV works great with all Apple devices :P |
| 18:40.20 | mgeary | mine is 2nd gen |
| 18:40.23 | influx | No more magic quotes, eh? |
| 18:40.25 | SunSparc | AppleTV can stand alone, depending on what you are doing on it. You can also hack it pretty well. |
| 18:40.37 | mgeary | never tried hacking anything on mine |
| 18:41.57 | mgeary | dang. another tragedy in Norway |
| 18:42.03 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: beandog: guess what, graham answered my email and said he'll have the git repo fixed one way or another. |
| 18:42.19 | beandog | herlo: rawk |
| 18:42.22 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: awsome |
| 18:42.25 | herlo | :) |
| 18:42.32 | herlo | oh, so little work to get you guys to do more :) |
| 18:42.36 | beandog | I'm looking to get either a Roku or an AppleTV for my sister |
| 18:42.42 | beandog | She's already got a Mac desktop |
| 18:42.47 | beandog | and she rents movies on itunes |
| 18:42.53 | beandog | so maybe appletv would work better, for her |
| 18:43.15 | mgeary | yeah |
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| 18:48.13 | carmony | ok, what do I want for lunch? hrm |
| 18:51.02 | beandog | carmony: work through lunch and leave at 2 |
| 18:51.07 | beandog | that's what I'm doing |
| 18:51.08 | beandog | woots |
| 18:53.20 | beandog | mgeary: have a long weekend |
| 18:53.25 | beandog | you have monday off? |
| 18:53.30 | mgeary | nope |
| 18:53.42 | mgeary | but we're having a company+families lagoon day on Tuesday |
| 18:53.43 | beandog | whut |
| 18:53.44 | mgeary | so that'll be fun |
| 18:53.46 | beandog | oh right on |
| 18:53.52 | beandog | can I come? :D |
| 18:53.58 | mgeary | we didn't want to have it on Monday for fear of the crowds |
| 18:54.02 | beandog | oh crap |
| 18:54.08 | beandog | 2nd annual uphpu lagoon trip |
| 18:54.43 | mgeary | this Tuesday? ;) |
| 18:55.10 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: you gonna come? |
| 18:55.50 | DexterTheDragon | whut whut? |
| 18:55.57 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: Lagoon on Monday |
| 18:56.02 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: like last year, Pioneer Day trip |
| 18:56.13 | DexterTheDragon | I wonder if I have monday off |
| 18:56.20 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: go find out |
| 18:57.08 | carmony | hrm.... I dunno if I'd like lagoon on a holiday |
| 18:57.21 | beandog | https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.412969097238.185299.522827238&type=1 |
| 18:57.25 | beandog | carmony: it's not busy at all |
| 18:57.51 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: you still rockin the beard? |
| 18:58.01 | DexterTheDragon | not as much |
| 18:58.51 | carmony | cause in those pictures, looks like you're ready to start a new language :P |
| 18:59.00 | DexterTheDragon | rofl |
| 19:16.33 | beandog | hey fungus or macnewbold or Utah_Dave |
| 19:16.38 | beandog | can you update topic plz :D |
| 19:16.43 | beandog | 2nd annual uphpu lagoon trip :D |
| 19:16.44 | beandog | wootsie |
| 19:23.26 | macnewbold | k, what day? |
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| 19:24.45 | macnewbold | 2nd Annual UPHPU Lagoon Day - ask beandog for details | Presenter opportunities available for Aug 18 and September, contact macnewbold | Utah PHP Users Group  |  http://uphpu.org/ |
| 19:25.05 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> 2nd Annual UPHPU Lagoon Day - ask beandog for details | Presenter opportunities available for Aug 18 and September, contact macnewbold | Utah PHP Users Group  |  uphpu.org |
| 19:25.06 | beandog | macnewbold: Monday |
| 19:25.18 | beandog | Monday @ 3 p.m. were meeting :) |
| 19:25.20 | beandog | I sent an email |
| 19:25.41 | macnewbold | a nice |
| 19:25.46 | macnewbold | i'm behind on email methinks |
| 19:26.24 | Utah_Dave | sup, beandog |
| 19:26.36 | beandog | Utah_Dave: heyo, mac got it |
| 19:26.36 | beandog | :D |
| 19:26.48 | Utah_Dave | ah, OK. |
| 19:28.27 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> 2nd Annual UPHPU Lagoon Day - Monday July 25, 3pm rendezvous - ask beandog for details | Presenter opportunities available for Aug 18 and September, contact macnewbold | Utah PHP Users Group  |  uphpu.or |
| 19:29.11 | beandog | woots |
| 19:29.12 | beandog | thankee |
| 19:46.56 | josephscott | herlo: why were you planning to switch from tmobile to sprint? |
| 20:53.44 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.04 | skinner | Was somebody looking for a spotify account the other day? |
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| 21:23.53 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myu49LXgkcQ |
| 21:36.24 | tierra | wow... NetBeans recognizes what you're doing with "compact('ext', 'url');" in code, and if you hover over the strings passed into compact() while debugging, it will actually give you a tooltip with the value of the variable with the name given in the string just as if it was a variable |
| 21:36.35 | tierra | kind of a nice surprise |
| 21:51.05 | skinner | musiks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xavkwD-8T5s |
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| 22:21.22 | mgeary | josephscott: hey |
| 22:21.28 | josephscott | hi |
| 22:21.43 | mgeary | can i axe you a question about WP subdomain mapping? |
| 22:22.35 | mgeary | i've got a friend who wants their www.domain.com to resolve over to their blog, hosted at WP. However, here: http://en.support.wordpress.com/domain-mapping/map-subdomain/, they say they strip the "www" from all urls |
| 22:22.58 | mgeary | i'm about to modify the CNAME DNS, but i really can't point the www CNAME to WP? |
| 22:23.26 | mgeary | if i have to, i can set it up so there is a shell site living under www that does a redirect to blog.domain.com or something, but that's not very elegant |
| 22:23.30 | mahelious | cname is essentially a redirection, right? if I get A, send to B? |
| 22:23.47 | mahelious | so couldnt the cname have a www in A, but omit the www in B |
| 22:24.08 | mgeary | a CNAME doesn't imply a redirection |
| 22:25.07 | josephscott | you are correct about WordPress.com and www, it removes it |
| 22:25.27 | josephscott | so you end up with http://techcrunch.com/ on WPCOM instead of www.techcrunch.com |
| 22:25.36 | mgeary | well, that's acceptable |
| 22:26.03 | mgeary | so i'm still changing the CNAME for www, it's just removed on entry? |
| 22:26.49 | josephscott | so something like http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ ? |
| 22:26.53 | mgeary | i was under the impression you *had* to have some arbitrary other cname (like blog.domain.com) in order for it to work |
| 22:27.15 | mgeary | no, just domain.com |
| 22:27.50 | mgeary | but i can't point the primary A record over, obviously, it's got to be a CNAME |
| 22:28.14 | josephscott | oh, no you don't have to |
| 22:28.26 | josephscott | domain.com is fine |
| 22:29.09 | mgeary | okay, but i'm still modifying the CNAME for the www, it's just going to get rewritten upon landing to domain.com, right? |
| 22:31.18 | josephscott | did you read through http://en.support.wordpress.com/domain-mapping/map-existing-domain/ ? |
| 22:31.41 | mgeary | ah, no i was only given the link about the subdomain |
| 22:32.34 | mgeary | hrm. does WP *have* to have the nameservers? |
| 22:32.43 | mgeary | there's a custom MX record setting on the domain |
| 22:33.45 | mgeary | looks like maybe there's an admin panel where we can re-create that. I've never hosted anything at WP.com. Alright, we'll do this |
| 22:33.56 | josephscott | there are custom DNS options for WPCOM, but at this point I believe the standard we have is to do the DNS |
| 22:34.15 | mgeary | http://en.support.wordpress.com/domain-mapping/custom-dns/ |
| 22:34.27 | josephscott | mgeary: definitely drop a note to WPCOM support http://en.support.wordpress.com/contact/ |
| 22:34.52 | josephscott | they can make sure that the process you are looking at goes as smoothly as possible |
| 22:35.39 | josephscott | the issue with WPCOM doing the DNS is that we have multiple data centers, load balancers, etc. If some of those change then we can easily update it for everyone |
| 22:36.41 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:37.27 | josephscott | sometimes an entire data center will go offline, but we can keep all the sites going with little to no impact on uptime |
| 22:55.31 | josephscott | $8ball is it really Friday? |
| 22:55.31 | raifbot | josephscott - It is decidedly so. |
| 22:56.10 | influx | $8ball Do I get to eat some food today? |
| 22:56.10 | raifbot | influx - Outlook not so good. |
| 22:57.21 | skinner | raifbot: then why does Microsoft keep selling it? |
| 22:59.13 | skinner | $8ball Where is the party? |
| 22:59.13 | raifbot | skinner - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 22:59.32 | skinner | $8ball When is Christmas? |
| 22:59.32 | raifbot | skinner - Don't count on it. |
| 22:59.36 | skinner | ... |
| 22:59.41 | romanovic | ouch |
| 22:59.50 | romanovic | thanks skinner, now you've ruined Christmas for everyone |
| 23:00.02 | skinner | $8ball Why are you so mean raifbot? |
| 23:00.02 | raifbot | skinner - My reply is no. |
| 23:00.05 | skinner | lol |
| 23:01.56 | skinner | $8ball LOL |
| 23:01.56 | raifbot | skinner - Yes. |
| 23:02.22 | skinner | raifbot: No |
| 23:02.34 | skinner | ~say raifbot: No |
| 23:02.34 | ibot | raifbot: No |
| 23:04.28 | macnewbold | ~friday |
| 23:04.28 | ibot | it has been said that friday is !!!!!!!! FRIDAY !!!!!!! |
| 23:04.36 | macnewbold | $friday |
| 23:04.39 | macnewbold | $chuck-fact |
| 23:04.39 | raifbot | Chuck Norris knows where Carmen Sandiego is. |
| 23:06.45 | ninnypants1 | $chuck-fact |
| 23:06.45 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can touch MC Hammer. |
| 23:08.28 | skinner | And now for something completely different: |
| 23:08.30 | skinner | http://riotstyle.com/images/mccain-obama-taco.jpg |
| 23:08.34 | skinner | http://brianlaesch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/political-pictures-john-mccain-taco-tuesday.jpg |
| 23:36.20 | SunSparc | Mmmmm... tacos... |
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