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01:50.28TuxToaster$rlart
01:50.28raifbotpours gasoline all over optikal, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze.
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03:43.49ninnypants$chuck-fact
03:43.49raifbotChuck Norris can watch DVD's on a VCR
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14:54.14ninnypants$lart lion
14:54.15raifbotputs on some milking gloves.  "All right, now, lion, this won't hurt a bit....".
14:54.49mgearyninnypants: ?
14:55.00ninnypantsosx lion
14:55.08mgearywell, right
14:55.12mgearywhy the lart?
14:55.47ninnypantsIt remeved spaces and hobbled expose my two favorite and most used features
14:55.59mgearyaha
14:56.05mgearyi don't use either of those
14:56.23ninnypantsmessed up scrolling too but that was fixable
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14:58.05ninnypantsthe new update for itunes on windows have messed up productivity as well
14:58.20ninnypantssince my media keys nolonger work with it. not sure why...
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15:01.00*** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting tonight! 7pm@C7: carmony on Profiling PHP | Looking for presenter Aug 18 and September, contact macnewbold | Utah PHP Users Group  |  uphpu.org
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15:07.07maheliousGood news everyone!
15:07.08mahelioushttp://raleigh.craigslist.org/etc/2504303318.html
15:10.15beandogsomeone find Uncle Rico
15:15.21carmonylol
15:15.27carmony~lolstats
15:15.27ibottotal count of lol on #uphpu: 2724.  Top 3: carmony -- 398 (14.6%), SunSparc -- 387 (14.2%), TuxToaster -- 305 (11.2%)
15:15.38carmonyNooooooooo
15:16.30Utah_Davecarmony: you're #1!!
15:21.32funguslol
15:29.44DexterTheDragonbeandog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTAn6E_flE
15:30.16beandogow.
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15:39.41influxKHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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15:42.17josephscottcarmony: yeah, sorry about not planning for today, and I'm a maybe for tonight.  we'll try again next month
15:42.37carmonyjosephscott: no problem, just realized it last night at like 11 pm :P
15:42.43carmonywas like "Oh, whoops"
15:44.40influxIs anyone from SLC going there and back? Can I catch a ride?
15:46.38influxIs anyone in here driving from SLC to the meeting and back? May I ride along?
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15:52.11beandogwhats PDT
15:52.47influxPacific Dayligh Savings Time, I imagine.
15:52.51influxDaylight*
15:59.41DexterTheDragonthe answer to that is to stop using dst
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16:18.02mindjujuSo where should we go to geek lunch next friday?
16:18.37mindjujuwhat about thai ?
16:22.34Utah_Davemindjuju: that sounds delicious
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16:29.44ninnypantshttp://500px.com/photo/1257970 space station passing in front of the sun
16:30.36beandogwhats that big yellow thing
16:30.48beandoggetting in the way
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16:34.07beandogninnypants: http://omegadelta.net/images/FarSide01.jpg
16:36.49Utah_DaveMy wife just forwarded this link to me:  http://byurejects.com/
16:37.32beandogUtah_Dave: lol, win
16:39.24beandoghttp://stanfordrejects.com
16:48.50mgearywell, this is what i settled on for my "Sign this NDA so we can talk" request
16:49.10mgeary"I'm afraid we don't typically sign NDAs this early in a relationship. Our lawyer would have to review it, and that incurs fees that we cannot justify if there's not a more certain chance that it will lead to actual new business. I'm happy to have a discussion with you, and if you'd like to have some references from some of our existing customers to assure you of our integrity, I can certainly provide some. "
16:53.45beandogmgeary: thats awesome
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16:56.43beandogmgeary: did you have some client that wanted to talk to you or something
16:59.44beandogand they didn't wanna reveal their super seekrit busines awesome sauce
17:00.01beandogand you were like, dude
17:00.04beandogand they were like, dude!
17:00.34mgearybeandog: not even that. Was contacted out of the blue (90+% of our work comes from referral), and the guy gave me a link to a not-super-impressive web app, and then sent me an NDA so we could 'talk freely'
17:01.18mgearygiven that it's a Utah-based business, i'm guessing it's another one of those, "well, my budget is around $1.5k" deals
17:01.35beandogmgeary: you should have been all covert like, "Meet me behind the 7-11, and wear a black sweater."
17:02.00mgearyheh
17:03.42beandogmgeary: maybe the thing to ask first is, "whats your budget"
17:03.43beandogheh
17:04.02mgearyhah. Utah clients *never* tell you what their budget is
17:04.52mgearyeveryone seems to think you're out to cheat them out of everything you possibly can
17:06.12mgearyand yet at the same time expects you to work for 3rd-world rates because you're a fellow Mormon
17:08.18beandogheh
17:10.11beandogthat's just funny
17:10.12beandog:)
17:10.15beandogbut true
17:10.55bhosieheh so what happens when you're *not a fellow mormon? a whole other issue altogether? :)
17:17.23mgearydoubt it
17:17.33mgearymaybe it's not a Mormon thing, maybe it's just a Utah thing
17:17.54beandogThere must be cheap clients everywhere
17:17.57beandogThere seems to be a lot in Utah
17:20.42beandogmgeary has to go and make it hard for them
17:20.52beandogwhy do you hate America, mgeary?
17:21.07mgearybecause of it's Freedom
17:21.14mgearyoops
17:21.17mgearybecause of its Freedom
17:21.27skinneryou'd think it'd be the other way around
17:21.52skinner"Oh your a fellow mormon...well I can trust you so I'll pay you a little more since I figure you'll do good work and won't cheat me"
17:22.02skinnerheh
17:22.10skinner</day dream>
17:24.31carmonylol, I feel your pain mgeary :P
17:24.56carmonythough, part of the problem is there seems to be an abundance of terrible web dev shops in Utah that do more harm than good
17:25.02josephscottthere are cheap folks every where
17:25.19mgearymeh. i'm used to it, and have had good fortune in finding great clients all over
17:25.24mgearyincluding in Utah
17:25.39skinnercarmony: * cough * HIT * cough *
17:25.46josephscottthough the concentration of them might be higher in Utah, I think it is related to the mass of get rich quick/pryamid scheme/seo companies
17:35.24macnewboldits an interesting problem
17:35.51macnewboldoften i'll do a quick ballpark estimate, just to make sure their budget has the right number of zeroes on it
17:36.03skinnerI think it would be funny if there was a get rich quick via optimizing your seo pyramid
17:36.12macnewboldthere's got to be a quick out when we're worlds apart on budget
17:38.01mgearymacnewbold: that's what i do as well
17:42.03beandogmacnewbold: just tell them, "Gee, I hope my comcast router can handle this extra traffic at home ..."
17:42.05beandogthat'll get rid of em
17:42.07beandog:)
17:42.30beandog"Your site might be slow in the evenings.  That's when I usually stream Netflix"
17:42.42skinnerlol
17:43.20skinneralso casually mention that once you exceed 200gb of bandwidth in one month, you get shut off....as if it's not a big deal
17:43.35beandogheh
17:43.47beandogThat would be awesome.
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17:47.00beandogfungus: holy crack, that is a long ars.tech article .......
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17:47.39fungushehe, yeah it is.  But it's very well written, detailed, and thoughtful
17:52.31beandogman he put a lot of time into this.
17:55.22beandoghis writeup on HFS+ is most impressive.
17:56.34mgearyfungus: did i miss a link?
17:56.58beandogmgeary: I got it on twitter
17:57.05beandoghttp://bit.ly/oERWwF
17:57.10beandog^^ ars mac os x lion review
17:59.53mgearythanks
18:10.38herloUtah_Dave: you owe me a pizza place!
18:18.00carmonyfungus: what do you think of lion?
18:18.13mgearyit's better than nicad
18:18.23mgearyi kill myself
18:24.02maheliousthe industry says desktops are dead in the wake of smart phones and tablets, and apple decides to reinvigorate the mac.  can't wait to see where folly falls.
18:26.39mgearyi'd really kill myself if i had to work all day on just a smart phone and a tablet
18:28.16beandogmgeary: no kidding.
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19:11.56funguscarmony, at first glance it's not really all that different.  But as you dig in, and understand the new concepts and features they are pretty cool.
19:14.11fungusA lot of features might require unlearning bad habits you may have learned previously (some in the last few decades), but it's still a good thing.
19:15.02carmonyyeah, I haven't been wow'd by it yet, but I'm trying to give some of hte new features a chance
19:15.19fungusHave you read through the Ars article?
19:15.34fungusThere's a ton of stuff buried in there that are really cool.
19:15.47carmonyits 20 pages!
19:15.59fungushehe, yup
19:17.01fungusExamples of somewhat hidden stuff.  Full disk encryption, Versions, Finder tweaks, Recovery, Mobile Timemachine, etc.
19:18.03fungusSanboxing, Webkit2, Automatic Termination, ...
19:18.34fungusTerminal improvements.  
19:21.33influxWhat kind of Terminal improvements?
19:22.16fungus256-color, background transparency
19:24.50fungusIMHO, this kind of upgrade for $30 is incredible, you won't be seeing Microsoft do this.
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19:31.19carmonyfungus: versions?
19:31.42fungusDocument versions.  
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19:31.53funguslike automatic VCS
19:32.22mgearyit's like integrated Time Machine, no?
19:32.31funguskind of
19:32.48fungusIts a new API available to apps to optionally use
19:32.54mgearyaha
19:32.56mgearyright
19:33.02mgearyfungus: so have you upgraded yet?
19:33.10fungusone machine, yeah
19:33.15mgearyi believe it ships with python 2.7, no?
19:33.17fungusnot my main gaming machine yet
19:33.39mgearyi'll have to make sure that doesn't have any ramifications on any of my existing django projects. I wouldn't think it's likely
19:34.04carmonyhow can I make lion lock?
19:34.09fungusnot sure about the python.  I didn't bring my Lion machine w/ me to work.
19:34.19mgearyi assume all my 64-bit self-compiled stuff from Snow Leopard should work just fine on Lion
19:34.23mgearyi'll have to test it on my laptop
19:34.28mgearycarmony: lock what?
19:34.41carmonylike, lock my computer
19:34.50carmonyI thought it was under the apple logo on the main bar
19:37.52influxw7
19:37.54fungusCtrl+Shift+Eject
19:38.25fungusor add the Keychain status in your menu bar
19:39.03carmonyhrm, it doesn't prompt for my password
19:39.05carmonywhen I come back
19:39.14fungusBecause you have locking turned off
19:39.23fungusSystem Prefs -> Security
19:40.50fungusI think i'm gonna upgrade this old mac mini to Lion.  
19:46.13influxSiiimbaaa...
19:47.37carmonylol
20:01.36skinnermac os x 10.7 (Lion)
20:02.09skinnerafter bugs are found and a crazy list of vulnerabilities......a new version is released.......mac os x 10.8 (Scar)
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20:07.52mastergunnsa good friend of mine and his company are looking for a PHP dev to help them with a problem site they moved to a server running PHP 5.3. They think moving from PHP 4 to PHp 5.3 is the problem, but not 100%. Most importantly, they have money and will pay for someone to help them figure it out and fix it. let me know if you are interested and I'll PM the phone number.
20:08.42xtrementlouch php 4
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20:17.03skinnerWhy is PHP freddy krugers language of choice?
20:18.05skinneraddslashes( )
20:19.48ninnypantsskinner: does he then use stripslashes() to heal his victims and kill them again?
20:19.53skinnerlol
20:20.13skinnerWhat did your mom say when you said "I'm too tired"?
20:20.25skinnersleep(60*60*24)
20:21.12skinnerWhat did the script say to the server?
20:21.27skinnerPass me a bottle of water im parsed.
20:22.04skinnerLinux Apache MySQL PHP = LAMP
20:22.22skinnerWindows IIS MsSQL PHP = WIMP?
20:22.52skinnerI picked up a Magic 8-Ball the other day and it said 'Outlook not so good.'
20:22.57skinnerI said 'Sure, but Microsoft still ships it.'
20:31.52maheliousskinner puns.  he must be destroyed.
20:33.05carmonylol
20:33.25carmonyhttp://www.phparch.com/magazine/2011-2/july/ -- they published my article
20:33.48mgearycongrats, carmony
20:34.19maheliouscarmony++
20:35.13macnewboldNice, carmony! Congrats!!!
20:35.17macnewbold~carmony++
20:35.21macnewbold~karma carmony
20:35.21ibotcarmony has karma of 15
20:35.41macnewbold<PROTECTED>
20:35.46maheliousooh
20:35.50mahelious~carmony++
20:35.58macnewbold~karma msie
20:35.58ibotmsie has neutral karma
20:36.02macnewbold~karma ie
20:36.02ibotie has karma of -666
20:36.04mahelious~msie--
20:36.08maheliousforever!
20:36.11fungus~carmony++
20:36.34romanovicheh
20:37.46carmonylol
20:38.01fungushehe, more lol from carmony.
20:38.03fungus~lolstats
20:38.03ibottotal count of lol on #uphpu: 2730.  Top 3: carmony -- 401 (14.7%), SunSparc -- 387 (14.2%), TuxToaster -- 305 (11.2%)
20:38.32carmonydarn it
20:38.36carmonyI need to stop that
20:38.41carmony_lol_
20:38.47macnewbold~lolstats
20:38.47ibottotal count of lol on #uphpu: 2730.  Top 3: carmony -- 401 (14.7%), SunSparc -- 387 (14.2%), TuxToaster -- 305 (11.2%)
20:38.52macnewbolddoh, didn't count it.
20:39.02fungus~lolstats carmony
20:39.02ibotcarmony has said lol 401 times (14.7 %), ranked 1/91 (percentile: 1.1 %)
20:39.09macnewbold~lolstats macnewbold
20:39.09ibotmacnewbold has said lol 0 times (0.0 %)
20:39.10macnewboldhehe
20:39.26carmonyI'm laughing out loud 1.1% of the time
20:39.43macnewboldwow, that's kind of like a signal-to-noise ratio
20:39.54fungusno, you are ranked in the top 1.1% of people that lol
20:40.19beandogcarmony: congrats
20:40.21beandog~lolstats beandog
20:40.21ibotbeandog has said lol 280 times (10.3 %), ranked 5/91 (percentile: 5.5 %)
20:40.34skinner~lolstats skinner
20:40.34ibotskinner has said lol 32 times (1.2 %), ranked 13/91 (percentile: 14.3 %)
20:40.36beandogmomma always said I'd never be #1
20:40.57fungus~lolstats fungus
20:40.57ibotfungus has said lol 159 times (5.8 %), ranked 7/91 (percentile: 7.7 %)
20:41.07mgeary~lolstats mgeary
20:41.07ibotmgeary has said lol 1 times (0.0 %), ranked 57/91 (percentile: 62.6 %)
20:41.09skinner~karma skinner
20:41.09ibotskinner has karma of 1
20:41.11fungushaha, beandog beat me
20:41.12skinnerhaha
20:41.14beandog~sadface mgeary
20:41.15mgearythat's right folks. ONE time
20:41.24beandog~lolstats mgeary
20:41.24ibotmgeary has said lol 1 times (0.0 %), ranked 57/91 (percentile: 62.6 %)
20:41.27macnewboldwow, i feel bad i missed it
20:41.36beandogmgeary: was it epic?
20:41.47mgearyyou guys made me do it as a test
20:41.54skinnermahelious: You coming to the php meeting tonight?
20:41.59skinnerI'll be there
20:42.05beandogwoo
20:42.09beandogI get to meet skinner
20:42.22beandogyou can buy me an oreo shot
20:42.24maheliousno.  my wife finishes teaching summer school today, so we're going out to celebrate
20:42.27skinnerlol
20:42.37beandogwhat.  Im serious.
20:42.37skinnermahelious: oh cool
20:42.46beandogmahelious: are you going together?
20:42.47maheliousdo need to get to one of those eventually
20:44.20mahelioushttp://url.stootvalk.nl/ejqe2
20:45.14beandoganybody have a spare spotify account
20:45.21beandogthat theyve been waiting to give out to someone super special
20:45.26beandogbut they'll give up that dream and give me one instead
20:46.11maheliousonly thing i dont like about the place is they serve hominy (they call it posole) with everything
20:46.47skinnerhominy....meh
20:47.07beandogwith grits?
20:47.31maheliousnope.  just hominy.
20:54.01carmonyfungus: any good system diagonistic tools I'm forgetting? vmstat, vnstat, htop, top, iotop strace
20:54.33beandogcarmony: whoami
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20:57.26macnewboldand id
20:57.27fungusiostat
20:57.33macnewboldnetstat
20:57.35macnewboldroute
20:57.43fungussar
20:57.44macnewboldlsof
20:57.48macnewboldsed
20:57.51macnewboldpatch
20:58.00fungusgrep
20:58.07beandogfungus: sar?
20:58.41fungussystem activity collector.  keeps a history of system stats
20:59.02beandogwhut
20:59.20beandognever heard of this
20:59.35funguskind of like an old-school munin
21:00.05fungusno pertty graphs one host only kind of thing
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21:00.11fungusbut still kinda useful
21:00.16carmonyfungus: iostat?
21:00.33funguslike vmstat for disk IO
21:00.44skinnerrm -rf /*
21:00.45carmonyis it on ubuntu?
21:00.47carmonylol skinner
21:00.49fungusYes
21:01.02beandog~lolstats carmony
21:01.02ibotcarmony has said lol 401 times (14.7 %), ranked 1/91 (percentile: 1.1 %)
21:01.23carmonyfungus: aptitude couldn't find iostat
21:01.27beandogfungus: Ive seen that one
21:01.36fungusapt-get install sysstat
21:02.08fungusit includes: sar, iostat, mpstat, pidstat, etc
21:02.47beandogfungus: thx for the tip
21:03.12carmonyoh coooool
21:03.28skinnerdon't forget stty
21:06.12beandogand cowsay
21:06.29beandogcarmony: I'm a big fan of htop, personally
21:06.31beandoghtop > top
21:07.08fungusor, anti-system diagnostic: nethack
21:07.26fungus(read: time waster)
21:08.53fungusoh, can't forget the network set:  Wireshark, tcpdump, tshark, tcpflow, iptraf
21:09.46fungusdig, whois, curl
21:09.57beandogsomeone stop fungus !
21:10.00fungushehe
21:10.36fungusooh, shiny
21:10.47beandogquick!  guild war!
21:12.10beandogOkay, sar lost me on the 2nd sentence in the man page.
21:12.11beandog:t
21:12.26herlobeandog: system activity reporting, you now know what it is
21:12.28herlo:)
21:13.08herlobeandog: just run 'sar'
21:13.25fungusif you've just installed it, it'll be pretty bare
21:13.27beandogCannot open /var/log/sa/sa21: No such file or directory
21:13.35fungusyeah, gotta wait until tomorrow
21:13.36herlofungus: treu that
21:14.44beandoghuh?
21:15.00fungusit collects data periodically via a cron job
21:15.02Utah_Davebeandog: just checked my spotify account, sorry no invites for me yet.  :(
21:15.12fungusAnd sar will report on this data.
21:15.19beandogUtah_Dave: ah well
21:15.30DexterTheDragonif your on ubuntu you have to enable it in /etc/default/sysstat too
21:15.37beandogfungus: no cron by default here
21:15.57fungusbeandog, sample of output for memory usage.  http://fpaste.org/ABQL/
21:16.03herloUtah_Dave: ping
21:16.05beandogoh there we go
21:16.08beandoginit script.
21:16.25beandogfungus: ooh I like
21:16.36herloUtah_Dave: ping
21:17.26fungusbeandog, but munin/cacti/etc can do pretty much the same thing, but collect it all together and show pretty graphs.
21:17.44beandogfungus: yah, munin has issues, and I'm not really liking cacti that much
21:17.47herlofungus: munin does have alerting...
21:18.31fungusright, so sar is quite old-school
21:19.01herlobeandog: munin only has issues in that you have to use it on a Gentoo box :(
21:19.14Utah_Daveherlo: pong
21:19.29herloUtah_Dave: pizza place?
21:19.30Utah_Davesorry, haven't had a moment to call my guy in Chitown
21:19.35herlopunk!
21:19.40herlo:-D
21:19.43Utah_DaveI know! I'm a jerk
21:19.46herlocall him NOW!!
21:19.47herlohehe
21:19.57Utah_DaveIt's just been crazy
21:20.03herloUtah_Dave: I want pizza, but I think I'm just going ot go to Giordanos
21:21.23*** part/#uphpu bhosie (~bhosie@192.84.171.170)
21:21.24beandogokay, now its running as a cron job
21:23.04Utah_DaveGiordanos is one that we went to
21:23.12skinnerfungus: it'd be interesting to see that data viewed using highcharts.....    http://highcharts.com/
21:23.16Utah_Daveherlo: Pizzeria Uno - 29 E Ohio St, Chicago, Illinois 60611
21:23.20Utah_DaveI think this is the other one.
21:23.59herloUtah_Dave: oh, I've been to both
21:24.03herloI prefer Giordanos :)
21:24.18herloUno is a national chain, Giordanos is local iirc
21:24.28fungusskinner, those are pretty graphs.
21:24.48fungusMunin and Cacti come close, but aren't near as pretty as that.
21:26.17herloUtah_Dave: thanks though!
21:26.20skinnerya, just discovered them yesterday
21:26.28skinnergoing to use them for a project I'm workin on
21:28.57carmonyI have a lot of slides...
21:29.23beandogfungus: if Im reading this right, your'e using 99% of your memory?
21:29.27beandoghttp://fpaste.org/ABQL/
21:29.44fungusyes, you are
21:30.08skinnercarmony: You have a lot of slides? http://bit.ly/orn1pP
21:30.18carmonylol
21:30.21fungusAlso notice the kbcached column.  That means over 5GB of memory is for caching
21:30.23carmonysuch a newb skinner ;)
21:30.45skinnerlol
21:31.01skinnerIt's a loop you know
21:31.24skinnerMöbius strip
21:31.43skinnerafter you achieve the greatest level, it's only then your back at the beginning
21:31.56beandogfungus: huh?
21:31.57beandog:T
21:31.58skinnera newb
21:32.10beandogIve never understood the memory stuff
21:32.17beandogcarmony: do a presentation on that :D
21:32.18beandogtop stats
21:32.37fungusTotal memory = Application memory + Cached memory + buffers
21:32.54fungus+ free memory
21:33.03beandogwhat is cached memory?
21:33.14fungusUsually file system caches.
21:33.32beandoghuh, ok
21:33.33fungusthats why reading the same file twice is faster the second time
21:33.52beandogIve never really noticed that
21:34.21fungusEspecially filesystem metadata
21:34.38fungusTry du out.  Then do it again and time it.
21:35.13beandogoh, right
21:35.19beandogokay, sar is already looking cool.
21:35.36beandogeasier for me to parse
21:35.41beandoger, read
21:36.06fungusI like both.  graphs can be easier to identify patterns
21:36.44fungusI only use sar on machines that I need to get a history with real numbers.  
21:36.58beandoglike what
21:39.04skinnercarmony: You going to the meeting tonight? I hear we might learn something. Thought it'd be cool if I saw you there...
21:39.18carmonyskinner: rofl, I hope I'm going, since I'm presenting ;)
21:39.53skinnerI hope so to, since your presenting
21:40.16skinnerJust don't look at me while your up there or you might laugh and shoot milk out your nose
21:40.27skinnerassuming you're drinking milk while up there
21:40.30skinnercause milk is awesome
21:40.37skinnermilk++
21:40.43skinner~karma milk
21:40.43ibotmilk has neutral karma
21:44.33beandogokay, I like sar :D
21:44.35beandog~fungus++
21:44.46beandog~milk++
21:45.02beandog~karma milk
21:45.02ibotmilk has karma of 1
21:45.23beandogfungus: so sar by default reads yesterday's data?
21:45.27beandogit looks like
21:46.23fungusno, it reads today's by default
21:46.28beandogoh
21:53.49skinnerWhilst coding, if headphones are used, what headphones do you use? I'll start: http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Siberia-Full-Size-Headset-White/dp/B000V9AU6Y
21:54.25skinnerCurrently listening to Standpipe Valve by Zircon
21:56.05carmonyOkay! Slides done, whew
21:56.27beandoghttp://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-EX56LP-BLK-Style-Headphones/dp/B001RB24NM/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1311285362&sr=8-12
21:56.36beandogI think this is it.
21:57.34influxSony MDR V150: http://p.gzhls.at/6840.jpg
22:03.35SunSparcI am took picky when I go shopping for headphones that I usually find one that is $500 that I like and realize I cannot afford it and then give up.
22:04.20skinnerHeh, world of the day: Bowdlerization
22:04.24skinner*word of the day
22:04.41skinneraka Expurgation
22:04.56skinnerExpurgation is a form of censorship which involves purging anything deemed noxious or offensive
22:09.29josephscottcarmony: check out the second paragraph at http://barry.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/hyperdb-lag-detection/
22:10.05carmonywow
22:10.06carmony550
22:15.24josephscotta few tables :-)
22:30.10romanovicmgeary: that's a great birthday dinner!
22:30.24SunSparc~congrats mgeary
22:32.26beandogmgeary: try not to lol
22:32.37mgearyoh, don't worry
22:32.57mgearyi lol in real life, but nothing online ever actually makes me lol, so i refuse to "lol"
22:33.05SunSparcmgeary: have some garlic sirloin for me
22:33.10beandogyou just quadrupled your stats
22:33.17beandog~lolstats mgeary
22:33.17ibotmgeary has said lol 1 times (0.0 %), ranked 57/91 (percentile: 62.6 %)
22:33.20beandogor not.
22:33.21mgearybeandog: nope. it only counts when you just LOL
22:33.27beandogmgeary: oh.
22:33.29beandogwell then
22:33.32mgearythat's how you tricked me into getting my one hit
22:33.38beandogheh
22:33.39mgearyproving that
22:33.49beandogI tricked you?
22:33.50beandogme?
22:33.52mgearycollective you
22:34.00beandogoh I was gonna say
22:34.04mgearyand it wasn't so much a trick as a "see, watch this"
22:34.14beandogmgeary: do you feel used
22:34.21mgearyconstantly
22:35.04SunSparc~console mgeary
22:35.04ibotACTION gives mgeary the consolation moose
22:35.18beandogmgeary: don't feel bad, you have an 11-year old
22:35.20skinnerWait, we have a consolation moose?
22:35.27skinnerCan I ride it?
22:35.44SunSparc~moose skinner
22:35.59SunSparc~ride skinner
22:36.03SunSparc:)
22:36.47skinner~ridemoose skinner
22:37.30beandog~pony skinner
22:37.51skinner~skinner consolation moose
22:37.51ibotACTION buries consolation moose in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH!
22:37.56beandogskinner: http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/no-you-cant-have-a-pony.jpg
22:38.04skinnerrofl
22:38.20SunSparcrofl
22:38.25SunSparcgood one beandog
22:40.10skinnerConsolation Moose: http://bit.ly/1aP2zG
22:40.50SunSparcLOL
22:41.51SunSparcSpeaking of ponies and unicorns, did you guys see this?  http://www.ponycorns.com/game.html
22:42.54beandoglol that moose is creepy
22:43.00SunSparcSeriously
22:43.10beandogoh man this looks cool
22:44.22beandogwhat.  in.  the. heck.
22:45.19beandoghow do I get the ponycorn in the jar
22:45.24beandogstupid game.
22:45.40SunSparclol
22:45.59SunSparcYou have to be smarter than the 5 year old the dad that made it.  :)
22:46.22beandogI got one
22:46.25skinnerme too
22:46.33skinnerI got the pink ponycorn
22:46.35beandogI got two
22:46.36beandog:D
22:47.14SunSparcNow she just needs to make it a MMORPG
22:47.23beandogstupid butterfly
22:47.42beandogthree ponycorns!
22:50.03beandogfour ponycorns!
22:50.53beandogfive!
22:50.55beandogI solved it :D
22:51.39beandog~SunSparc++
22:55.27DexterTheDragonmindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyMfpJh3h4A
22:56.39beandogI bet he's good in a slapping fight
22:58.01beandogoh wow, theres a store.
22:58.12beandoghttp://untoldentertainment.com/store/products/I-Am-An-Evil-Lemon-T%252dShirts.html
22:58.17beandogmust. own.
23:02.45SunSparcWoot!  Thanks beandog!
23:04.34SunSparcWow, I wish I could create transparent fractals out of thin out like that!
23:05.10SunSparcthin air even
23:09.26beandogI just found an app called Emo Cube
23:17.21*** part/#uphpu mgeary (~mgeary@50.8.70.19)
23:22.15beandogDo we have to do anything funky to get in at C7
23:22.18beandogfor the mtg tonight
23:22.36beandogDo I need clean underwear or anything
23:24.23SunSparcYou always need clean underwear.  And some extra in the glovebox, just in case.
23:24.37josephscottrequires a photo ID
23:24.54fungusbeandog, nope, C7 is a clothing optional place.
23:25.58beandogjosephscott: what if I dont look anything like my photo
23:26.37josephscottthen you better hope you brought that extra set of clean underwear in the glovebox
23:26.38beandogIll just rush the guard.
23:26.43beandoglol
23:27.03skinnerthey'll take a photo id or xtra pair of underwear
23:27.21beandoglol
23:27.23beandognice.
23:28.34skinnermake sure it isn't clean
23:28.39skinnerthat's how they identify you without the id
23:28.40skinner....
23:28.41skinnerO.o
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23:30.59beandoglol
23:31.08beandog"We've been expecting you..."

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