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| 01:45.57 | mgeary | hi folks |
| 01:46.01 | mgeary | anyone still around? |
| 01:47.01 | herlo | hi mgeary |
| 01:47.15 | mgeary | how's it going, herlo |
| 01:47.22 | herlo | mgeary: good, you? |
| 01:47.27 | mgeary | yeah, not bad |
| 01:47.36 | herlo | w00t! |
| 01:47.45 | mgeary | heh |
| 01:47.56 | mgeary | herlo: do you have wifi in your home? |
| 01:48.01 | herlo | yes |
| 01:48.07 | mgeary | 802.11g, i assume? |
| 01:48.13 | herlo | and n |
| 01:48.15 | mgeary | or perhaps n? |
| 01:48.49 | mgeary | so, tell me this, if you have to transfer a 1gb file from machine to machine inside your wifi network, what transfer speed(s) do you typically expect/get? |
| 01:49.13 | mgeary | in megabits, not bytes |
| 01:49.24 | mgeary | or do you even obsess over such things? |
| 01:49.26 | herlo | um, around a few hundred k |
| 01:49.40 | mgeary | really?? |
| 01:49.41 | herlo | well, if I'm tranfering a lot of data, I usually hook up to the wired network |
| 01:50.52 | mgeary | well, maybe i shouldn't complain then. i'm getting a sustained 22.4 megabits per sec, and i'm grouchy because i think it should be closer to 50 mbps |
| 01:51.16 | mgeary | it's not easy for me to hook up to the wired, so i rarely do that, even when i have a lot to transfer |
| 01:51.44 | herlo | overhead on n |
| 01:52.07 | herlo | mgeary: honestly, it could be 2-3mbps actually |
| 01:52.24 | herlo | I do a lot of downloading over wifi from the intertubes |
| 01:52.33 | herlo | and that's usually where I see bandwidth speeds |
| 01:52.41 | herlo | my internal network handles it just fine |
| 01:52.42 | mgeary | well, sure, but in those cases there are a lot more constraining factors |
| 01:52.59 | herlo | yeah, but it does mean that my wifi is faster than a few hundred k |
| 01:53.05 | herlo | that's all I was saying |
| 01:53.16 | mgeary | yeah |
| 01:53.35 | mgeary | it just seems crazy if the n overhead is basically 50%+ |
| 01:53.45 | mgeary | what's the point of calling it 50mbps if that's the case |
| 01:53.50 | herlo | well, there's more than just n |
| 01:53.52 | mgeary | i know, i know, marketing hype |
| 01:53.56 | herlo | do you do the transfer in the clear? |
| 01:54.03 | mgeary | oh, and i mean "g", |
| 01:54.05 | mgeary | i'm only using g |
| 01:54.08 | herlo | okay |
| 01:54.17 | mgeary | it's going over rsync/ssh |
| 01:54.27 | herlo | ssh kills some performance. I don't know how much, though |
| 01:54.49 | herlo | encryption layer/packet headers and such |
| 01:54.58 | herlo | then, there's tcp and ip packet headers |
| 01:55.14 | mgeary | sure, but again, a total of 50% overhead...? |
| 01:55.29 | herlo | oh, I don't know |
| 01:55.43 | herlo | probably some loss in the radio waves |
| 01:55.48 | herlo | retransmissions |
| 01:55.55 | herlo | but yeah, 50% seems high |
| 01:56.05 | mgeary | i wonder if you can use rsync over rcp |
| 01:56.13 | herlo | though, if I was getting 25mpbs, I'd be pretty happy |
| 01:56.40 | herlo | consistently, anyway |
| 01:57.23 | mgeary | meh. i've got a bunch of mp4s to upload to my server |
| 01:57.55 | herlo | rsync and screen :) |
| 01:58.40 | mgeary | ? |
| 01:58.47 | mgeary | how would screen help |
| 01:58.48 | mgeary | ? |
| 01:59.07 | herlo | mgeary: just make it so you can't see it while it's transferring |
| 01:59.16 | mgeary | heh |
| 01:59.22 | herlo | and you can do other things on the lappy while it transfers |
| 01:59.36 | mgeary | well, i still can, of course |
| 02:00.19 | mgeary | i just feel like complaining |
| 02:01.54 | herlo | I know :) |
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| 14:01.44 | mindjuju | yup, i saw |
| 14:01.49 | mindjuju | @carmony |
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| 14:06.44 | mindjuju | oh man |
| 14:07.06 | mindjuju | justin biber fans are called beliebers ? that's funny |
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| 14:45.00 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Geek Lunch for Orem - 5 Guys @1pm |
| 14:46.53 | herlo | lol |
| 14:47.11 | mindjuju | i thought you were still in philly? |
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| 15:32.56 | unum | only in oremn? |
| 15:32.57 | unum | :( |
| 15:33.54 | mindjuju | hey, check backlog, i was beggin for an SLC location |
| 15:33.56 | mindjuju | or one for layton |
| 15:34.13 | mindjuju | utahcon, if you want to do something up there, i'm more than willing to pimp it for you this morn |
| 15:34.53 | unum | I meant to mention midvale five guys |
| 15:34.56 | unum | I guess I got distracted |
| 15:35.16 | unum | looks like hire's big h is the place to be in salt lake today |
| 15:35.25 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 15:35.45 | utahcon | I are busy boy |
| 15:36.12 | unum | but I would prefer five guys ;) |
| 15:36.16 | mindjuju | unum, i don't mind sending out an update to say SLC UTOS geek lunch at big h |
| 15:36.19 | mindjuju | or wherever |
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| 15:36.34 | unum | sorry the big h thing was an obscure reference |
| 15:36.39 | unum | mitt romney's going there today |
| 15:36.42 | mindjuju | oh |
| 15:36.57 | mindjuju | unum, i'm also making a mental note to keep you in the loop for geek lunch planning for SLC |
| 15:36.57 | unum | is anyone else in here in the salt lake area? |
| 15:36.58 | herlo | unum: as in hires big h downtown? |
| 15:37.08 | unum | herlo: ya |
| 15:37.13 | herlo | interesting |
| 15:37.13 | unum | with mark shurtleff |
| 15:37.29 | utahcon | unum: I am downtown. 3rd and State |
| 15:37.39 | unum | I thought he might pay a visit to us today, but seeing as how the owner left town I doubt that's the plan |
| 15:37.43 | utahcon | Mitt + Mark? oh geez |
| 15:37.50 | mindjuju | if it's not an all meat place, i bet fungus would go |
| 15:37.51 | unum | utahcon: my wife used to work there |
| 15:38.08 | mindjuju | there was a soup and sammich place near downtown that we went to once |
| 15:38.10 | mindjuju | goodeats |
| 15:38.15 | unum | her office looked right out over the inter section until they moved her to the other side and she had a view of the theater roof |
| 15:38.37 | utahcon | unum: lol, I am on the other side of the street, behind Beans and Brews |
| 15:38.54 | utahcon | I have a great view of an alley and the adjoining parking structure. |
| 15:38.56 | mindjuju | course, if it was just me, i'd do john kolaches |
| 15:39.05 | utahcon | Lots of great #downTownCrazy action though |
| 15:39.08 | mindjuju | i hear it's awesome |
| 15:39.16 | utahcon | mindjuju: that places is awesome |
| 15:39.31 | unum | I could do hires though I guess fungus wouldn't join us then |
| 15:39.32 | mindjuju | ah dag, don't tell me that or i'm going to drive all the way down there and buy a dozen |
| 15:39.41 | unum | mitt won't be there until after 3 |
| 15:39.43 | mindjuju | i haven't had good kolaches since Houston |
| 15:39.44 | unum | so we should be ok for lunch |
| 15:40.04 | mindjuju | are you kidding, presedential hopeful, they'll be cordoning off stuff and security, etc |
| 15:40.25 | utahcon | mindjuju: my only experience with kolaches is johhny's, and I thought they were good. |
| 15:40.37 | utahcon | Very conveniently placed too. about two blocks from trax |
| 15:40.39 | unum | I was wondering how early they would start with all that, he's declare and he's the front runner, so there may be some serious security |
| 15:41.05 | mindjuju | i'm going to need to get up there utahcon |
| 15:41.17 | mindjuju | so do you guys have a place for SLC geek lunch? |
| 15:41.24 | mindjuju | there is always boca de beppo |
| 15:41.37 | mindjuju | last time i went there, it wasn't as great as it used to be, but its good |
| 15:41.46 | utahcon | boca is pricey |
| 15:41.47 | unum | ya not my favorite |
| 15:42.10 | unum | I still like five guys, but midvale may be too far for the others |
| 15:42.11 | utahcon | moochies would be fun, but crowded |
| 15:42.29 | mindjuju | hey herlo, where was that sammich place we got them sammiches from that one time after UTOS conf |
| 15:42.31 | utahcon | go where evs. I shan't be there :( |
| 15:42.39 | mindjuju | it was johnny delish sammichs or something |
| 15:42.51 | mindjuju | it had johnny in the name, ir emember that |
| 15:42.55 | herlo | mindjuju: um, philadelphian? |
| 15:42.59 | herlo | or Jimmy Johns |
| 15:43.10 | mindjuju | oh that's it, jimmy johns |
| 15:43.13 | mindjuju | close to boca |
| 15:43.14 | herlo | there's one downtown and they've got those all over town... |
| 15:43.19 | herlo | yeah... |
| 15:43.21 | utahcon | philadelphian is the bomb, but in Sandy :( |
| 15:43.21 | unum | well it sounds like just me right now..... |
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| 15:44.16 | utahcon | DP is good, and conveniently located for me :D |
| 15:44.22 | utahcon | I would stop in, but couldn't host |
| 15:44.34 | mindjuju | DP is good, oh yeah, and like 10 feet from CG |
| 15:47.24 | utahcon | lol |
| 15:47.25 | utahcon | yeah |
| 15:47.29 | utahcon | "conveniently located" |
| 15:47.45 | mindjuju | too bad that BC chicken place went out of bidness |
| 15:47.52 | mindjuju | that was some MIGHTY fine eats |
| 15:48.17 | herlo | mindjuju: now that location is a barbacoa iirc |
| 15:48.27 | herlo | or was that on 4th south |
| 15:48.29 | mindjuju | rly? |
| 15:48.39 | herlo | barbacoa is at 3rd and state |
| 15:48.40 | mindjuju | that could be good, i'll have to check out |
| 15:48.50 | mindjuju | i want to get back to himalayan kitchen |
| 15:48.53 | herlo | we've been there a few times... |
| 15:48.53 | mindjuju | LOVE that place |
| 15:49.39 | unum | I thought it was 3rd and main |
| 15:50.03 | unum | there's also one at 7200 s and 20 e |
| 15:50.04 | herlo | unum: yeah, main, sorry |
| 15:50.06 | unum | there's also one at 72 s and 20 e |
| 15:50.33 | herlo | now that I think about it, BC chicken had to be at 4th and state |
| 15:50.53 | herlo | although, that's like right next to XM |
| 15:51.15 | mindjuju | yup, that's exactly where BC chicken is |
| 15:51.23 | mindjuju | like 100 ft from xmission colo |
| 15:51.32 | herlo | okay, so barbacoa isn't there |
| 15:51.50 | herlo | it's on the next block over and down |
| 15:51.53 | mindjuju | and in between bc chicken and xmission was himilayan kitchen, though now it's moved around the corner where the convenience store was |
| 15:52.06 | herlo | ya |
| 15:52.14 | mindjuju | but that was like a year ago that i was down there |
| 15:52.42 | herlo | Bombay House, India House and the one on Center in Provo are all better indian food |
| 15:53.40 | mindjuju | i'll admit, i never had Saag Paneer or Chicken tikka masala in tibet, but himilayan kitchen had chicken curry w/rice that was spot on to what i ate whist there |
| 15:53.45 | mindjuju | that's some mighty fine eating |
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| 16:54.25 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 16:54.25 | ibot | takes jnbek to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 16:54.29 | SunSparc | ~friday |
| 16:54.29 | ibot | i heard friday is Friy-dayy, Friy-dayy, gettin' down on Friy-dayy |
| 16:55.18 | redroy | oh no |
| 16:55.21 | redroy | jbot too |
| 16:57.57 | SunSparc | Apparently |
| 16:58.06 | SunSparc | ~blame mindjuju |
| 16:58.06 | ibot | ACTION blames mindjuju (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 17:02.52 | beandog | monin |
| 17:15.19 | SunSparc | ~morning beandog |
| 17:15.19 | ibot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping beandog in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 17:15.34 | beandog | heyo |
| 17:15.35 | beandog | Hows it going |
| 17:15.52 | SunSparc | Too beautiful a day to be stuck in an office. |
| 17:16.01 | beandog | who says you're stuck? |
| 17:16.13 | SunSparc | Too true. I QUIT!!! |
| 17:16.17 | beandog | http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/calc5.html |
| 17:16.29 | beandog | Can someone else try that, and see if they can get their monthly bill to go above zero |
| 17:17.34 | mgeary | beandog: there's a JS parse error on that page |
| 17:17.39 | mgeary | so all JS calculations will fail |
| 17:17.44 | beandog | maybe I should use IE |
| 17:17.55 | mgeary | line 51 |
| 17:18.00 | mgeary | it's using curly quotes |
| 17:18.56 | beandog | bah |
| 17:18.59 | beandog | lame. |
| 17:19.21 | mgeary | you could fix it in a local copy and use Charles to serve up that file instead of the hosted one. Then it would all work ;) |
| 17:19.22 | beandog | mgeary: fix it! |
| 17:19.26 | mgeary | beandog: ^^ |
| 17:19.39 | beandog | mgeary: all I heard was "I know how to fix it, and I'll get right on that for you." |
| 17:19.47 | beandog | heh |
| 17:19.55 | mgeary | it'd only work on my machine :) |
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| 17:30.36 | beandog | mgeary: you can start a consulting service |
| 17:31.31 | beandog | mgeary: looks like youve got some serious competition. better buck up. |
| 17:32.17 | mgeary | not really. we offer free Otter Pops⢠to our clients. That's hard to beat |
| 17:32.48 | beandog | Simple. |
| 17:32.53 | beandog | Offer Otter Pops to non-clients, too. |
| 17:33.51 | mgeary | i'm sure your motives here are purely altruistic |
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| 20:29.16 | mindjuju | thx mgeary! |
| 20:29.42 | mgeary | mindjuju: you're welcome |
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| 20:35.48 | mindjuju | sad to say, grandpa from the princess bride died today - http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/06/24/columbo-star-peter-falk-dead-at-83/ |
| 20:37.46 | influx | He's probably on a case right now. |
| 20:38.50 | mindjuju | good ole columbo |
| 20:40.38 | herlo | oh, well at least he lived until our wedding day |
| 20:40.47 | herlo | Anybody want a peanut? |
| 20:49.14 | influx | haha |
| 20:57.58 | beandog | There is a serious lack of cookies in this office. |
| 20:58.02 | beandog | *quit rage* |
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| 21:20.39 | mindjuju | did beandog leave to get cookies? |
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| 21:22.56 | mindjuju | ~give beandog a frosty |
| 21:22.56 | ibot | ACTION gives a frosty to beandog |
| 21:23.14 | skinner | ~skinner bucket o' cookies |
| 21:23.14 | ibot | ACTION buries bucket o' cookies in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 21:23.27 | mindjuju | you know, i've always liked duplex cookies with glass o milk |
| 21:23.30 | skinner | beandog: I'd give you a cookie, but they're wet now |
| 21:25.35 | beandog | whut |
| 21:25.51 | skinner | sorry |
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| 21:41.35 | skinner | I think I hear the weekend coming |
| 21:41.38 | skinner | You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say... |
| 21:41.49 | skinner | ~skinner the weekend |
| 21:41.49 | ibot | ACTION buries the weekend in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 21:42.07 | skinner | nice...hopefully that will cool things down a bit |
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