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| 00:45.02 | fridgesm | macnewbold: C7 is NOT doing pizza this time, just some "finger food" |
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| 03:48.42 | ninnypants | influx: ping |
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| 05:12.27 | thinbegin | yo... |
| 05:13.03 | thinbegin | anyone remember how to grab the # of occurrences in a "group by" clause in mysql? |
| 05:13.14 | thinbegin | is it just "count" |
| 05:13.16 | thinbegin | ? |
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| 05:25.42 | thinbegin | yarp. remembered it on my own... thx anyway :) |
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| 14:18.01 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting tonight! Thursday 6/16 7pm@C7 Data Center - Steve Meyers on MySQL forks/flavors | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
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| 14:39.16 | cedwards | can someone remind me the/a better alternative to mysql_real_escape_string? |
| 14:39.36 | cedwards | I know I used something else in the past, I just can't remember what. |
| 14:41.45 | ninnypants | cedwards: I was thinking mysql_real_escape_string was the better one to use |
| 14:43.37 | cedwards | ninnypants: is it mysql_escape_string that is crap, and mysql_real_escape_string the "real" best one? :) |
| 14:43.53 | ninnypants | yeah I believe so |
| 14:44.22 | ninnypants | mysql_reas_escape_string is the one I use |
| 14:48.15 | macnewbold | cedwards: i 2nd what ninnypants said. there are some weaker flavors of string escaping, but if you're using mysql, mysql_real_escape_string is the right one to use I think. Might differ slightly if you're using mysqli or PDO though. |
| 14:48.57 | ninnypants | yeah mysqli has a good string escape function and pdo does prepared statements |
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| 15:03.34 | carmony | nothing quite like waking up to having a critical system down, lol |
| 15:05.23 | ninnypants | carmony: gets the blood flowing? |
| 15:06.07 | carmony | yeah |
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| 15:32.26 | macnewbold | carmony: were you just waking up at 9am to a critical system down, or had you been up for hours dealing with it already? hopefully it's happy again now. |
| 15:32.35 | carmony | I fixed it :P |
| 15:32.39 | macnewbold | been there done that with the pager thing waking you up though |
| 15:32.41 | macnewbold | not too fun |
| 15:32.42 | carmony | I woke up to an hour about it |
| 15:33.14 | skinner | is there a fee to join the party tonight? |
| 15:33.21 | macnewbold | skinner: absolutely not |
| 15:33.32 | macnewbold | though it is pay your own way at applebees if you order food/drink generally |
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| 15:33.47 | macnewbold | but they've never thrown a fit about someone coming who doesn't spend any money |
| 15:33.50 | skinner | applebees afterwards? |
| 15:34.01 | macnewbold | our table generally is plenty profitable for them |
| 15:34.05 | skinner | sweeet |
| 15:34.08 | carmony | wooooooooooooooooooooooow |
| 15:34.16 | carmony | talk about a killer commit... |
| 15:34.16 | carmony | https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6#diff-1 |
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| 15:34.23 | macnewbold | yeah, meeting at 7 @ c7, then we applebees from about 9-11ish generally |
| 15:35.16 | carmony | it is a doozy |
| 15:35.52 | herlo | carmony: MrMEEE? haha |
| 15:35.57 | mgeary | jeeze |
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| 15:36.03 | mgeary | talk about significant white space |
| 15:36.09 | carmony | seriously |
| 15:36.10 | carmony | lol |
| 15:36.21 | skinner | it's not like anyone really uses /usr.... |
| 15:36.23 | skinner | amirite? |
| 15:36.24 | herlo | lol |
| 15:36.25 | skinner | j/k |
| 15:36.27 | skinner | :) |
| 15:36.41 | herlo | skinner: no worries, you can run it on your box, noproblem |
| 15:37.50 | carmony | I think my favorite is the picture comment on the bottom |
| 15:38.02 | macnewbold | yeah, that's pretty classy |
| 15:38.27 | herlo | lol |
| 15:38.30 | macnewbold | the snippits seem to show they're pretty into rm -rf for some reason |
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| 15:56.04 | mgeary | jeeze. I totally think that Anthony Weiner resigning is the wrong thing for him to do |
| 16:02.07 | carmony | anyone know a good, easy graphing tool for displaying data over time? |
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| 16:05.32 | mgeary | carmony: you mean like a canvas-based graphing library? |
| 16:05.55 | mgeary | there are a couple of decent ones out there. jsmith linked to one that looked very interesting a week or two ago |
| 16:06.17 | carmony | carmony canvas or image |
| 16:06.20 | mgeary | i used one recently that was simple to use and gave good results, but it was only free for noncommercial use |
| 16:06.20 | carmony | er |
| 16:06.22 | carmony | mgeary |
| 16:06.23 | carmony | lol |
| 16:06.44 | mgeary | i used RGraph (rgraph.net) |
| 16:06.51 | mgeary | can't recall what jsmith recommended |
| 16:08.26 | mgeary | ~flog jsmith |
| 16:08.26 | ibot | ACTION whips jsmith with a cat-5 o' nine tails |
| 16:09.34 | jsmith | Was it pchart.net? |
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| 16:14.11 | mgeary | no |
| 16:14.13 | mgeary | it was client-side |
| 16:15.19 | romanovic_bb | 2mgeary: ping |
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| 17:24.05 | josephscott | haha, saw an email with the subject mentioning 'confidential', turned out to be an auto-reply, verifying that they got the email that was sent to them |
| 17:26.26 | ninnypants | you can never be to carful when recieving email |
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| 17:50.09 | itimber | is kevin carter on here? |
| 17:50.26 | itimber | I can't think of his handle |
| 17:50.40 | mindjuju | itimber, that name is DexterTheDragon |
| 17:50.40 | herlo | itimber: DexterTheDragon |
| 17:50.46 | itimber | right on |
| 17:50.54 | fridgesm | but of course! |
| 17:51.11 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit itimber |
| 17:51.11 | ibot | ACTION stikes at itimber with the vulgar dragon technique knocks out itimber and injures influx! |
| 17:51.27 | itimber | DexterTheDragon: did you hear the latest podcast from DJ Insomniac? He does a shout out to you!! |
| 17:51.28 | mindjuju | that's ok, i used to call DtD Chris for a long time |
| 17:51.33 | josephscott | $8ball is DexterTheDragon really Kevin Carter? |
| 17:51.33 | raifbot | josephscott - Outlook good. |
| 17:51.40 | itimber | haha |
| 17:52.00 | DexterTheDragon | itimber: I haven't heard it yet. I've been talking to him about the new Summer cd |
| 17:52.03 | mindjuju | chris, kevin, they both sound like K |
| 17:52.15 | itimber | no doubt |
| 17:52.17 | itimber | same here |
| 17:52.42 | DexterTheDragon | itimber: episode 44? |
| 17:53.01 | fridgesm | where do I find ibot commands? |
| 17:53.18 | itimber | but I'm apparently not as cool as the famous DtD! Episode 44, 28:29 |
| 17:53.27 | itimber | yes |
| 17:53.39 | itimber | it's a good mix |
| 17:54.16 | josephscott | $google infobot |
| 17:54.16 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=infobot -- http://www.infobot.org/ -- http://www.infobot.org/guide-0.43.x.html -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobot |
| 18:10.47 | skinner | http://www.demotivatingposters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Government-Motivational-Poster.jpg |
| 18:10.55 | skinner | http://www.demotivatingposters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/kPHmZ.jpg |
| 18:11.05 | skinner | safe for work ^ :) |
| 18:11.44 | skinner | http://www.demotivatingposters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/FIREFOXCRASHED.jpg |
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| 18:24.43 | josephscott | carmony: more php internals "discussion" - http://www.freeklijten.nl/home/2011/06/10/Currently-on-PHPs-internals... |
| 18:25.20 | carmony | page not found |
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| 18:25.50 | DexterTheDragon | who puts ... in a url |
| 18:25.52 | josephscott | he must have changed it, try http://www.freeklijten.nl/home/2011/06/10/Currently-on-PHPs-internals... |
| 18:26.19 | josephscott | a-z0-9\- |
| 18:26.29 | josephscott | clean URL character set :-) |
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| 18:39.55 | josephscott | carmony: the curse of a single space out of place :-( |
| 18:42.26 | macnewbold | haha |
| 18:44.38 | carmony | lol |
| 18:44.46 | carmony | seriously |
| 18:46.26 | mgeary | okay folks, give me your thoughts on this one |
| 18:46.44 | mgeary | there is a url: http://staff.lib.msu.edu/sowards/balkan/lect15.htm, comes up just fine when you hit it directly |
| 18:47.27 | mgeary | however, when it's framed, it doesn't show. I thought i'd see all the tricks, but as best i can figure, the server is somehow detecting that it's being framed and aborting transmission. See it here: http://www.treelinegroup.com/dev/mg/iframe.htm |
| 18:48.15 | jsmith | mgeary: Is it looking at the referrer, perchance? |
| 18:48.36 | mgeary | jsmith: that's what i thought too, but wouldn't that also prevent anyone from linking to that file? |
| 18:49.08 | jsmith | Maybe they're keeping a blacklist of iframes? |
| 18:50.28 | mgeary | yeah, if i inspect the request headers for a simple <a href> versus the iframe, they are identical |
| 18:50.44 | mgeary | jsmith: "blacklist of iframes"?? |
| 18:51.23 | mgeary | does that even make sense? |
| 19:01.58 | carmony | mgeary: ok, looks like it is passing back a x-frame-origins: SameOrigin in the header |
| 19:02.08 | carmony | which I think this explains what that means: http://www.webmasterworld.com/webmaster/4022867.htm |
| 19:02.46 | carmony | but basically I believe the staff.lib.msu.edu web server is instructing the browser to not allow it's contents to be embedded in a frame not originating from the same domain |
| 19:04.17 | carmony | mgeary if that makes sense |
| 19:12.01 | mgeary | carmony: hmm. thank you. i was not aware of this header |
| 19:12.24 | carmony | mgeary: neither was I, it was the first time I've seen it, so I was curious what it was :P |
| 19:12.44 | carmony | you could get around it by having a PHP script pull the contents and echo it out |
| 19:12.57 | mgeary | with the heavy use of frame-jumping javascript, i'm surprised this header doesn't get more use |
| 19:13.26 | mgeary | carmony: yeah, but if they don't wish it to be framed, we'll respect that |
| 19:13.49 | carmony | yeah.... *scrapes their entire website* |
| 19:13.50 | carmony | lol, jk LO |
| 19:13.52 | carmony | :P |
| 19:13.56 | mgeary | :) |
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| 19:46.16 | carmony | probably the best trailer I've seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUUcOmgYEhY&feature=youtu.be |
| 19:48.38 | josephscott | ~muppets++ |
| 19:56.54 | mgeary | heh. so i get an RFP out of the blue the other day from a Utah-based company |
| 19:58.02 | mgeary | all our new work is by referral, so i was curious about that, but <shrug>. However, the RFP scopes out a decent-sized web app, but also indicates that they only have $ (as opposed to $$ or $$$) to spend on it |
| 19:59.00 | mgeary | so i write and thank them for their interest, give them a from-the-hip quote of $$, and say, "so i'm assuming we won't submit a proposal, because i don't think you're prepared to (triple) your anticipated budget". |
| 19:59.33 | josephscott | sounds fair |
| 19:59.45 | mgeary | they wrote back and basically said, "we're not in your business, so we don't really know how valid our estimate is, just give us your proposal, maybe we can consider it" |
| 20:00.32 | mgeary | ...which on the surface seems like a reasonable response, but writing a proposal is something very much resembling real work, and i really dislike undertaking that if i don't think it's got much chance of going anywhere... sigh |
| 20:00.49 | unum | that's a pain |
| 20:01.53 | josephscott | don't suppose they'll pay for just writing up a response |
| 20:02.04 | mgeary | seriously doubt it |
| 20:02.11 | mgeary | this is Utah, after all |
| 20:03.53 | mgeary | but seriously, who writes a 13-page RFP for a < $10k project? It probably cost them $2k just to write this RFP |
| 20:06.12 | mgeary | of course, the reality is, it's *not* a <$10k app, so the RFP is probably justified, it's just got unrealistic expectations |
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| 20:09.46 | josephscott | beandog: ping |
| 20:18.52 | carmony | and I just realized I haven't thought of my php-bob presentation for tonight |
| 20:18.53 | carmony | :P |
| 20:24.01 | carmony | and, I probably should go eat some food |
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| 20:30.49 | carmony | Mmmm is right |
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| 21:18.36 | carmony | lol, I picture of the commute to uphpu from the perspective of Google Earth :P http://screencast.com/t/4qM4cNi9 |
| 21:20.01 | ninnypants | hmm I should've had my wife schedule her ultrasound around uphpu ;) |
| 21:21.38 | carmony | lol |
| 21:21.45 | carmony | Joanna, my wife, might be coming down tonight with me |
| 21:22.19 | ninnypants | what's she presenting on? |
| 21:22.32 | carmony | lol, she isn't presenting :P |
| 21:22.50 | carmony | thought she could present on "How to do your own accounting and not kill yourself while doing it" |
| 21:23.03 | ninnypants | that would be nice |
| 21:23.36 | ninnypants | maybe at one I'll be at though :) |
| 21:23.44 | carmony | lol, yeah |
| 21:31.15 | unum | I forgot that was tonight |
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| 22:10.57 | andromedia | Hmm. |
| 22:17.58 | mindjuju | C is for Cookie that's good enough for me |
| 22:25.58 | carmony | mindjuju: I forgot to ask my bro to pickup Popeyes before he left base for the day |
| 22:26.55 | carmony | but I promise I'll pick it up sometime :P |
| 22:27.58 | herlo | carmony: fail! |
| 22:28.05 | carmony | I know!!! |
| 22:28.12 | carmony | herlo you coming tonight? |
| 22:28.26 | herlo | carmony: march your booty right over there and get some popeyes for my friend mindjuju !!! |
| 22:28.49 | carmony | herlo the problem is getting on and off base right now, since its a mad house |
| 22:28.52 | herlo | carmony: In Seattle, so um, no.... |
| 22:28.57 | herlo | carmony: lame excuse! |
| 22:29.05 | carmony | lol |
| 22:29.27 | herlo | carmony: not my reason, your excuse is lame! :) |
| 22:32.07 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: you still recording meetings? |
| 22:35.01 | Monnok | carmony: utahcon is giving me a lift to uphpu, barring any family emergencies |
| 22:35.56 | carmony | Monnok: ok, what about on the way back, need a lift? |
| 22:37.01 | Monnok | possibly. Trains arent likely to still be running when we get out of applebees |
| 22:47.25 | herlo | Monnok: plus from Applebees, it's a bit of a walk to 10000 south |
| 22:47.28 | herlo | :) |
| 22:48.33 | josephscott | for the git crowd, any good way to replicate svn external feature in git? |
| 22:50.13 | herlo | josephscott: git submodule |
| 22:51.33 | josephscott | cool, I'll check that out |
| 22:52.30 | herlo | yw |
| 22:53.14 | herlo | josephscott: I'm just guessing you are talking about external repos... |
| 22:53.36 | herlo | that are linked to the repo internally |
| 22:53.56 | josephscott | yep, svn external has been super handy, been looking for how to do the same thing in git |
| 22:54.02 | herlo | yep, that's it |
| 22:56.25 | josephscott | based on http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-submodule.html submodule looks promising |
| 22:56.55 | beandog | josephscott: you pang |
| 22:57.28 | josephscott | beandog: when you presented at UPHPU about dvd/blueray ripping, we talked about the 99 track issue with handbrake on some newer DVDs |
| 22:57.36 | beandog | yah |
| 22:57.44 | josephscott | turns out there is a pretty easy way to deal with that, on os x |
| 22:57.59 | beandog | oh yah? |
| 22:58.06 | josephscott | you fire up the DVD player in os x, run through the menus and get the actual movie |
| 22:58.27 | josephscott | there is menu option in the dvd software that tells you which title it is currently on |
| 22:58.39 | josephscott | so you use that to figure out which of the 99 titles is the correct one to rip |
| 22:58.55 | josephscott | I image other dvd software players might provide the same info |
| 22:59.05 | beandog | yah I do that with my bluray player sometimes |
| 22:59.25 | beandog | josephscott: thats cool |
| 22:59.36 | josephscott | herlo: is there a way with submodule to indicate a rev or tag for the external repo? |
| 22:59.54 | josephscott | beandog: thought that might come in handy, I've had to use that a few times today while ripping DVDs |
| 23:00.31 | beandog | ~pirate josephscott |
| 23:00.31 | ibot | ACTION illegally downloads josephscott and shares josephscott with all his friends |
| 23:00.43 | beandog | it's annoying that you have to do that |
| 23:01.04 | josephscott | yeah, well, right now I'm just tired of having to buy replacement DVDs after the kids destroy them |
| 23:01.46 | redroy1 | josephscott: amen |
| 23:02.31 | josephscott | sadly toy story 3 still wouldn't rip, even after cleaning the dvd :-( |
| 23:03.41 | herlo | josephscott: yes |
| 23:04.09 | herlo | josephscott: off hand, I don't recall how though. But I know it is supposed to allow you to specify a specific revision or tag |
| 23:05.06 | beandog | josephscott: it's on roku |
| 23:05.08 | beandog | er |
| 23:05.08 | beandog | netflix |
| 23:05.27 | josephscott | don't have netflix, maybe later in the year |
| 23:05.30 | beandog | netflix streaming |
| 23:06.28 | beandog | after something like 14 hours of sleep |
| 23:06.43 | josephscott | hmm, might be able to make it to uphpu tonight after all, we'll see, last minute call |
| 23:06.56 | carmony | josephscott & beandog: coming uphpu? |
| 23:07.04 | beandog | carmony: not me, I just got to work |
| 23:07.23 | beandog | well, back to work |
| 23:07.24 | beandog | whatever |
| 23:07.36 | josephscott | carmony: maybe, game time decision |
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