| 00:09.27 | herlo | fridgesm: I don't think they're going to do it every month |
| 00:09.43 | fridgesm | thanks |
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| 00:27.12 | beandog | how does iptables work with virtual ethernet devices? |
| 00:27.45 | beandog | I have venet0 which is 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:27.53 | beandog | and then venet0:0 which is static ip |
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| 01:53.52 | herlo | beandog: it's the same as regular devices |
| 02:03.13 | beandog | herlo: okay, Im a bit afraid the : might throw it off. |
| 02:05.49 | herlo | beandog: nah, it works just fine |
| 02:05.54 | beandog | ok |
| 02:06.06 | herlo | beandog: I've done eth0:0 several hundred times |
| 02:06.13 | herlo | so venet0:0 should be no different |
| 02:06.21 | beandog | yah? okay thanks man |
| 02:06.28 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart beandog |
| 02:06.28 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks beandog over |
| 02:06.42 | herlo | iptables -I INPUT 4 -i venet0:0 -s ip.ad.re.ss -j ACCEPT |
| 02:06.53 | herlo | something like that |
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| 02:17.16 | beandog | okay Ill try that out, thx |
| 02:17.32 | beandog | I'm working on mysql optimization right now |
| 02:17.35 | beandog | I'm trying to get this thing to use more juice. |
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| 04:27.49 | beandog | herlo: you still around |
| 04:30.52 | herlo | beandog: yep |
| 04:31.07 | beandog | herlo: I dont suppose I could borrow an iptables ruleset, just to put my mind more at ease. |
| 04:32.01 | beandog | if its not a bother. |
| 04:32.06 | herlo | um... |
| 04:32.10 | herlo | I do them out of my head |
| 04:32.15 | beandog | oh okay |
| 04:32.42 | herlo | beandog: what are you looking to do, exactly? |
| 04:32.55 | beandog | herlo: guarantee not locking myself out. |
| 04:33.14 | beandog | I can setup iptables easy enough, but I've got a past history of locking myself out. :T |
| 04:33.20 | beandog | and this VPS doesn't have a remote shell |
| 04:33.30 | beandog | so Id have to open a support ticket for them to get in |
| 04:33.57 | herlo | beandog: oh |
| 04:34.01 | herlo | I canhelp you with that |
| 04:34.06 | beandog | :t |
| 04:34.07 | herlo | beandog: here's what you do |
| 04:34.14 | beandog | herlo: I know I could just set a job to kill iptables |
| 04:34.18 | beandog | but even when I do flush, I lock myself out |
| 04:34.22 | beandog | centos, btw, if that matters. |
| 04:34.33 | herlo | beandog: well, that's what I was going to suggest |
| 04:34.41 | herlo | but you gotta remember flushing isn't what you want |
| 04:34.55 | herlo | what you wanna do is set a job in at |
| 04:35.14 | herlo | for say '10 minutes from now' |
| 04:35.22 | herlo | that does this |
| 04:35.27 | herlo | service iptables restart |
| 04:35.35 | herlo | and then do all of your rules interactively |
| 04:35.53 | herlo | if you do one that locks you out, it'll reset to a good set of rules in just a few minutes |
| 04:36.38 | herlo | beandog: if you just have it do 'iptables -F' you leave the policy intact, which could (and likely does) DROP on all packets |
| 04:38.20 | beandog | isn't that a flush? |
| 04:38.25 | herlo | no |
| 04:38.35 | beandog | oh |
| 04:38.39 | herlo | service iptables restart *does* *not* *flush* |
| 04:38.41 | beandog | well thats what I thought was a flush, that's what I would run |
| 04:38.44 | beandog | no, iptables -F |
| 04:38.51 | herlo | beandog: yes, but read what I said about it |
| 04:39.33 | beandog | Okay |
| 04:39.38 | beandog | I'm still a bit confused, sorry |
| 04:39.40 | herlo | the policy is your problem. |
| 04:39.41 | beandog | First off |
| 04:39.51 | beandog | Restarting iptables doesn't save your current rule set? |
| 04:39.53 | beandog | It does in Gentoo |
| 04:39.56 | herlo | no, it doesn't |
| 04:40.01 | herlo | service iptables save does that |
| 04:40.05 | beandog | (well, by default it does) |
| 04:40.13 | herlo | beandog: that's silly that gentoo does that imo |
| 04:40.22 | beandog | herlo: I agree with you. |
| 04:40.27 | herlo | unless it makes a backup, I guess, but even than it's challenging |
| 04:40.40 | herlo | gah, I can't type tonight |
| 04:40.54 | herlo | beandog: so, what is confusing you? |
| 04:41.08 | beandog | Okay, so |
| 04:41.13 | beandog | lemme re-read. |
| 04:41.37 | beandog | So just setup a job to restart iptables every few minutes |
| 04:41.45 | beandog | Does that load from the saved iptables rule set |
| 04:41.48 | herlo | yep |
| 04:41.51 | beandog | and not the one currently running? |
| 04:41.56 | herlo | right |
| 04:42.10 | herlo | but instead of have it reload every few minutes |
| 04:42.17 | beandog | you know what, I just remembered I have a CentOS vm image I could try this one ... |
| 04:42.23 | herlo | cool |
| 04:42.24 | herlo | there you go |
| 04:42.37 | herlo | experiment away |
| 04:42.45 | beandog | Ok |
| 04:42.51 | herlo | I'm about to hit the hay anyway. such a long day of teaching |
| 04:42.53 | beandog | herlo: should I disable iptables from starting on boot |
| 04:42.55 | beandog | worst case scenario |
| 04:42.58 | herlo | nah |
| 04:43.03 | herlo | you want iptables enabled |
| 04:43.18 | herlo | don't let those mean people in your box! |
| 04:43.27 | beandog | can I just set it in a cron job |
| 04:43.30 | beandog | 0/10 * * * * |
| 04:43.35 | beandog | or */10 |
| 04:43.36 | beandog | whatever it is. |
| 04:43.37 | herlo | to restart? |
| 04:43.40 | beandog | yah |
| 04:43.41 | beandog | for now |
| 04:43.44 | herlo | well, you can |
| 04:44.02 | herlo | but just keep in mind when it does, it will reset any rules you haven't saved to that point |
| 04:44.09 | herlo | I might suggest something like this |
| 04:44.20 | herlo | */15 * * * * service iptables restart |
| 04:44.43 | herlo | */13 * * * * echo 'you should save your rules' | wall |
| 04:45.02 | herlo | just to remind you to save rules before it resets (assuming you wish to do so) |
| 04:45.16 | herlo | beandog: but an 'at' job is simple, too |
| 04:45.21 | herlo | just type |
| 04:45.27 | herlo | at +10min |
| 04:45.31 | herlo | > service iptables restart |
| 04:45.33 | herlo | and you are done |
| 04:45.40 | herlo | to list at jobs |
| 04:45.42 | herlo | atq |
| 04:45.46 | beandog | hmm |
| 04:45.47 | herlo | and to remove a job |
| 04:45.51 | herlo | atrm <jobid> |
| 04:45.51 | beandog | Ive never used at |
| 04:45.57 | herlo | it's lots of fun |
| 04:46.01 | beandog | okay, thanks |
| 04:46.01 | herlo | :P |
| 04:46.03 | beandog | sorry to keep you up |
| 04:46.05 | herlo | no worries.. |
| 04:46.09 | herlo | I'm just here coding |
| 04:46.15 | herlo | but about ready to sleep |
| 04:46.36 | beandog | Oh one last question |
| 04:46.50 | beandog | Remember I was asking about vmnet0:0 or whatever before |
| 04:47.17 | beandog | Couldnt I just make a simple iptables config that doesnt even need to know the ethernet devices? |
| 04:48.10 | beandog | oh, wait, meh |
| 04:48.11 | beandog | scratch that. |
| 04:48.42 | herlo | sure |
| 04:48.44 | herlo | you could |
| 04:49.01 | herlo | but I think it depends on what you want |
| 04:49.20 | herlo | beandog: good luck. Ping me tomorrow if you have further questions |
| 04:49.37 | beandog | herlo: alright, thanks again man, much appreciated |
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| 15:27.59 | herlo | hi mindjuju |
| 15:28.09 | mindjuju | hey herlo |
| 15:28.11 | mindjuju | what up? |
| 15:28.19 | mindjuju | and what's this about the "roof" |
| 15:28.27 | herlo | oh |
| 15:28.28 | mindjuju | is it / was it leaking? |
| 15:28.40 | herlo | well, those rainstorms we had a few weeks back |
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| 15:29.13 | herlo | we had it leak through into our bedroom |
| 15:29.34 | mindjuju | that sucks! |
| 15:29.38 | herlo | about 3 inches in the bottom of a kitchen size garbage can |
| 15:29.50 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 15:31.23 | herlo | they supposedly fixed it |
| 15:34.26 | beandog | anyone use varnish cache thingie? |
| 15:36.16 | mindjuju | sorry, not even sure what that is |
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| 15:37.02 | josephscott | we've used varnish at Automattic |
| 15:37.55 | josephscott | and still do in specific cases, like Gravatar |
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| 15:51.41 | beandog | josephscott: yah? I'm looking at that right now |
| 15:51.46 | beandog | seems a bit easier to setup than squid |
| 15:52.11 | mindjuju | so anybody know of a telecommute PT job for sysadmin or graphic designer or seo or ... |
| 15:52.18 | josephscott | for varnish, as I recall, the biggest issue was keeping your cache within the size of available RAM |
| 15:52.43 | josephscott | unlike squid, it doesn't cache to the fs (last I checked, which has been awhile) |
| 15:53.28 | josephscott | this nokia pr is a funny read - http://press.nokia.com/2011/06/14/nokia-enters-into-patent-license-agreement-with-apple/ |
| 15:53.56 | josephscott | I guess if nokia can't keep up by making better devices, may as well sue some folks to keep the money coming in |
| 15:56.24 | mindjuju | course, my understanding is that the Nokia + MS phone is going to dominate the market here in 4yrs |
| 15:56.45 | mindjuju | they are sure of it, or so say the phone market analysts |
| 15:57.41 | josephscott | yep, phone market analysts have a history of 100% accuracy for predictions going out 4 years or more ;-) |
| 15:58.01 | herlo | mindjuju: right now, I'm in Seattle teaching a class. I don't know what the result is about the rain. |
| 15:58.26 | mindjuju | @josephscott just google it and you'll see about 20 diff articles from about a year ago saying the same thing - why here is one now! http://news.ziphone.org/nokias-windows-phone-dominate-smartphone-market-2015-idc.html |
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| 15:59.39 | josephscott | sadly, most analysts are a joke, and do little-to-no actual analysts |
| 15:59.53 | mindjuju | oh sure, i'm saying i actually believed them |
| 16:00.02 | mindjuju | i do hope you saw the comment dripping with sarcasm |
| 16:00.08 | mindjuju | dripping i say! |
| 16:00.33 | mindjuju | http://mobile.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Windows-Phone-Nokia-Dominance-Projections-May-be-Overblown-136190/ |
| 16:00.58 | mindjuju | obviously a bit of winders marketing |
| 16:01.28 | josephscott | :-) |
| 16:02.32 | mindjuju | in other news, i hear dell schanze got arrested again, this time in oregon |
| 16:03.15 | influx | For doing what? |
| 16:03.32 | mindjuju | for being dell? i'm not sure, i saw it in passing |
| 16:03.40 | mindjuju | but i think it had some thing to do with a BASE jump |
| 16:03.43 | mindjuju | or something like that |
| 16:03.49 | influx | Aye. |
| 16:03.59 | mindjuju | http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_3d4e6c84-9688-11e0-9899-001cc4c002e0.html |
| 16:04.05 | mindjuju | @influx^^ |
| 16:05.49 | influx | Thank you, sir. |
| 16:06.30 | influx | Looks like how I imagine a cult leader might look. |
| 16:06.40 | influx | In that mug shot anyway. |
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| 16:11.09 | synic | anyone work at welikesmall? |
| 16:11.52 | fridgesm | Who's in charge of posting events on the website? |
| 16:12.22 | mindjuju | i can post things to the site, what up? |
| 16:13.43 | fridgesm | I'm giving the presentation on Thursday, but it's not posted yet |
| 16:13.47 | fridgesm | Mac said he was going to |
| 16:14.10 | mindjuju | Can you PM me the details and I'll get it posted and send out a promo email |
| 16:14.37 | mindjuju | so what i'll need is your name, title of the preso, description, and a website if you have one |
| 16:16.16 | josephscott | don't think I'll be at the meeting this week unfortunately |
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| 16:33.51 | mindjuju | ~apb eggyknap |
| 16:33.51 | ibot | ACTION calls Leland to stake out eggyknap |
| 16:40.41 | mindjuju | hey eggyknap, i'm hearing that PostgreSQL is le sux and that mysql rocks, what you think? |
| 16:42.18 | beandog | oh my gosh |
| 16:42.21 | beandog | you've got it backwards. |
| 16:42.40 | beandog | postgres = the most advanced oss database |
| 16:43.11 | mindjuju | no way, d00d, come to this thursday's uphpu and see why |
| 16:43.45 | jtsnow | percona? MariaDB? |
| 16:43.55 | fridgesm | To be fair, this thursday's meeting will have no postgres bashing |
| 16:44.00 | mindjuju | heh |
| 16:44.10 | jtsnow | drizzle? |
| 16:44.17 | fridgesm | unless someone else brings it up :) |
| 16:44.22 | jtsnow | will those be discussed? |
| 16:44.24 | fridgesm | jtsnow: yes, all those |
| 16:44.51 | jtsnow | sweet... not sure if I can make it though :( |
| 16:45.42 | mindjuju | you should go |
| 16:45.57 | mindjuju | kathy ireland might be there |
| 16:47.08 | mindjuju | and gates mcfadden but definitely not that janeway person |
| 16:48.51 | beandog | lol |
| 16:49.11 | beandog | mindjuju: when is LOTR tonight |
| 16:49.16 | mindjuju | 7p |
| 16:49.26 | josephscott | my future mysql installs will likely be percona, with xtradb |
| 16:49.29 | mindjuju | we're going to be there at 6:30p |
| 16:49.42 | mindjuju | the real question is, do i need to wear elf ears to the movies? |
| 16:51.12 | fridgesm | josephscott: a good choice |
| 16:56.08 | mindjuju | why can't i think of thebigdog 's real name? |
| 16:56.17 | mindjuju | oh, i remember now |
| 16:56.17 | mindjuju | nm |
| 17:33.01 | josephscott | fridgesm: if you were to create a new forum site today, would you still start from scratch, or use one of the current forum software products out there? |
| 17:33.52 | fridgesm | I don't really like the products out there, but it depends on what kind of forum you're trying to accomplish |
| 17:34.08 | fridgesm | Plus, I enjoy writing things from scratch :) |
| 17:35.49 | josephscott | fair enough. I'm wondering in part because of the new direction that bbPress is going (as a WP plugin instead of separate software) |
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| 18:11.21 | beandog | dropbear || openssh ? |
| 18:11.39 | beandog | don't run one, run two! |
| 18:12.36 | influx | w 6 |
| 18:19.34 | mindjuju | k, there is some massively weird mojo going on, on this sata drive |
| 18:19.35 | mindjuju | trying to format it to ext4, and it's giving me all kinds of weirdness |
| 18:19.35 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.10 | beandog | ext4 is evil |
| 18:21.59 | mindjuju | so beandog, are there special rules when setting up a 2TB drive? |
| 18:22.12 | beandog | mindjuju: you need support for it in your kernel |
| 18:22.12 | beandog | LTB |
| 18:22.24 | beandog | wait thats not it. |
| 18:22.38 | beandog | Please hold. |
| 18:22.45 | mindjuju | k, thx |
| 18:23.54 | beandog | meh I cant find it. |
| 18:24.11 | beandog | If youre not running a custom kernel, youre probably okay anyway |
| 18:24.24 | mindjuju | i can't even format the thing, sadly |
| 18:24.32 | mindjuju | it says it did it, but it's not |
| 18:29.49 | beandog | what os are you on |
| 18:32.00 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: what's wrong with ext4? |
| 18:32.11 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: nothing |
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| 18:40.24 | beandog | how do you add a custom init script to startup on centos |
| 18:40.27 | beandog | Yarr. |
| 18:45.41 | fridgesm | do you want to know how to enable one, or how to create one? |
| 18:55.31 | beandog | fridgesm: enable one |
| 18:55.49 | beandog | I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue |
| 18:55.53 | fridgesm | chkconfig <name> on |
| 18:55.54 | fridgesm | I think |
| 18:56.07 | fridgesm | you might need to add first if it isn't added |
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| 18:56.59 | beandog | that's it? |
| 18:57.03 | beandog | which init level does it add it to |
| 19:01.32 | herlo | beandog: it adds it to whichever leves are defined by the # chkconfig 2345 56 45 line in /etc/rc.d/init.d/<service> file |
| 19:01.53 | herlo | beandog: you can also just do |
| 19:01.57 | herlo | chkconfig --level 345 on |
| 19:02.37 | herlo | and chkconfig --list {<service>} shows what runlevels will start the service (or all services) |
| 19:05.11 | fridgesm | I haven't actually done a chkconfig for a long time, I use puppet for configuring them |
| 19:09.38 | beandog | okay thx mon |
| 19:20.46 | beandog | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46647 |
| 19:22.19 | beandog | wow, the RFC is detailed |
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| 19:37.48 | beandog | http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2011/04/wild-animal-simple-dog-goes-for-joy.html |
| 19:37.50 | beandog | must. read. |
| 19:37.52 | beandog | joy. |
| 19:45.42 | beandog | http://imgur.com/5nGCp |
| 19:46.35 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 19:46.35 | raifbot | blasts whyisjake to oblivion with a kamehameha wave. |
| 19:48.19 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: I love hyperboleandahalf |
| 19:48.27 | beandog | :D |
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| 20:06.05 | josephscott | lol - http://devour.com/video/why-the-mavericks-are-great/ |
| 20:21.32 | mindjuju | poeticintensity - where did you get that meal from? |
| 20:56.15 | whyisjake | raifbot: How dare you... |
| 21:14.32 | whyisjake | josephscott: Thinking about WordPress VIP |
| 21:14.36 | whyisjake | Pros and cons? |
| 21:14.55 | josephscott | for what? |
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| 21:16.05 | josephscott | I can hook you up with the right folks if that is something that you want to seriously consider |
| 21:16.34 | whyisjake | Yeah, we are thinking about Make, Craft, O'Reilly Radar, and O'Reilly Broadcast |
| 21:17.03 | whyisjake | Before I got here, there were some emails with Raananananannn |
| 21:17.23 | whyisjake | (sp?) ;) |
| 21:17.34 | whyisjake | I think we are getting a meeting together. |
| 21:17.42 | josephscott | yep, Raanan is definitely a good contact for that |
| 21:18.03 | josephscott | so what exactly is your position at Make/O'Reilly? |
| 21:18.11 | whyisjake | I am a web producer |
| 21:18.18 | whyisjake | Basically the only dev person at Make |
| 21:18.53 | whyisjake | We get a lot of support from O'Reilly |
| 21:19.50 | whyisjake | Make is a WordPress site, the other are Moveable Type |
| 21:20.10 | josephscott | I assume the MT sites are looking to move to WP then? |
| 21:20.11 | whyisjake | They want all of the MT sites to be WordPress soon |
| 21:20.14 | whyisjake | Bingo |
| 21:20.20 | josephscott | woot! |
| 21:20.45 | whyisjake | Yeah, me and another girl here are the only WordPress peeps |
| 21:21.06 | whyisjake | We are basically a big perl shop here. |
| 21:21.22 | josephscott | makes sense, O'Reilly has a long history with Perl |
| 21:21.32 | josephscott | they used to employ the creator of Perl, back in the day |
| 21:21.56 | whyisjake | Yeah |
| 21:22.38 | whyisjake | So, between the two of us, we are going to be busy. |
| 21:23.52 | josephscott | well, anything specific you wanted to know? Raanan knows VIP services better than just about anyone, so he'll be able to answer most questions |
| 21:26.04 | whyisjake | Yeah, I figure as much. |
| 21:26.35 | whyisjake | We are getting tired of <redacted> who we do hosting with right now |
| 21:26.41 | josephscott | hehe |
| 21:26.53 | whyisjake | Figure the business goals line up pretty well with VIP |
| 21:29.47 | josephscott | yep, for many folks (bigger sites) doing something like WPCOM VIP is a pretty good arrangement |
| 21:33.30 | carmony | Man, I need a nap... |
| 21:34.27 | carmony | mindjuju: so, should I swing by and pick up some popeyes for thursday? |
| 21:41.35 | beandog | herlo: thx mon |
| 21:41.41 | beandog | I managed to setup a firewall and NOT lock myself out |
| 21:41.57 | beandog | ~herlo++ |
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| 21:47.15 | itimber | nicely done beandog |
| 21:47.18 | itimber | :) |
| 21:55.10 | mindjuju | carmony, that would be awesome |
| 21:55.11 | mindjuju | ! |
| 21:56.45 | carmony | mindjuju: alright, I'll see if I can get it done :) |
| 21:57.11 | mindjuju | well, i was thinking about going up to the airforce museum one of these weekends |
| 21:57.17 | mindjuju | and from there, shimmy over to popeyes |
| 22:06.02 | beandog | I'm writing custom init scripts. |
| 22:06.07 | beandog | Does this bother anyone else as well? |
| 22:06.18 | fridgesm | no, I've done a few |
| 22:06.40 | fungus | beandog, for what? your own custom daemon? |
| 22:06.49 | beandog | fungus: pure-ftpd, right now |
| 22:06.57 | fungus | does it not come with one? |
| 22:07.00 | fridgesm | doesn't it come with one? |
| 22:07.04 | fungus | lol |
| 22:07.40 | fridgesm | fungus: What are you, Data? Are you incapable of using contractions? :P |
| 22:08.03 | fungus | lol, no. it just didn't come out that way. |
| 22:08.23 | skinner | That's what she said |
| 22:08.41 | beandog | derp |
| 22:08.43 | beandog | look at that. |
| 22:08.47 | beandog | in contrib/ |
| 22:10.17 | fungus | http://fpaste.org/GLUd/ |
| 22:10.38 | fungus | yeah or that one |
| 22:11.26 | fungus | beandog, in general, don't write an init script. it's probably already written, unless it's your own software, in which case you copy another one like it and change the details. |
| 22:12.19 | fungus | on Ubuntu: /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 22:13.21 | mindjuju | oh that kind of init script coooo-oool! |
| 22:20.40 | josephscott | $8ball is it really only Tuesday? |
| 22:20.40 | raifbot | josephscott - My sources say no. |
| 22:21.22 | mindjuju | true that, in China, it's Wednesday |
| 22:21.35 | mindjuju | 5a wednesday, i think |
| 22:21.57 | mindjuju | oh man! 6a |
| 22:22.08 | mindjuju | well, 6:21 |
| 22:26.47 | influx | with > 0 seconds. |
| 22:36.59 | beandog | fungus: okay |
| 22:43.37 | influx | $chuck-fact |
| 22:43.37 | raifbot | There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live. |
| 22:44.30 | beandog | lol |
| 22:45.34 | herlo | beandog: glad it worked... |
| 22:57.48 | fridgesm | I've been looking at raifbot commands |
| 22:59.58 | josephscott | $help |
| 22:59.58 | raifbot | josephscott help is at http://raifbot.wordpress.com/ |
| 23:00.14 | fridgesm | that's where I'm at |
| 23:00.41 | fridgesm | interesting |
| 23:00.49 | fridgesm | does $eval taunt you? |
| 23:01.05 | fridgesm | $eval rmdir("/etc") |
| 23:01.06 | raifbot | fridgesm - eval( 'rmdir("/etc")' ) |
| 23:01.21 | fridgesm | oh, that's boring |
| 23:01.27 | fridgesm | it should taunt you for thinking it would work |
| 23:02.33 | fungus | ~say $taunt fridgesm |
| 23:02.33 | ibot | $taunt fridgesm |
| 23:03.19 | fridgesm | so what is ibot? |
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| 23:06.52 | josephscott | I'm open to raifbot improvement suggestions |
| 23:07.15 | mgeary | hey folks |
| 23:07.50 | mgeary | anyone here ever constructed a SOAP request by hand? I've got the XML string to post, but i'm not sure how the rest of the post should be constructed, including what the name of the variable containing the xml string should be |
| 23:08.19 | jsmith | mgeary: No, that's just asking for trouble |
| 23:08.34 | mgeary | jsmith: why do you think? |
| 23:08.44 | jsmith | mgeary: Why not use a SOAP library to do the heavy lifting? |
| 23:09.07 | mgeary | jsmith: it's not really an option. this is going into a Flash banner ad, and any proper SOAP library would add an unacceptable amount of kbs |
| 23:09.08 | jsmith | SOAP messages are very chatty... it's not something easy like JSON |
| 23:09.29 | mgeary | well, i've got a well-formed request xml string |
| 23:09.37 | mgeary | and i'm looking at the response from that string |
| 23:09.41 | mgeary | and it seems easy enough to parse |
| 23:09.58 | mgeary | i just need to try sending it myself manually |
| 23:11.41 | mgeary | but i don't know what the actual POST to the endpoint should look like |
| 23:12.34 | fridgesm | probably just post with the xml as the post body |
| 23:12.36 | mgeary | ah, i think i've found an example. it appears it doesn't use the typical name=value syntax |
| 23:12.46 | fridgesm | make sure you do content-type: text/xml on the body |
| 23:13.10 | fridgesm | name=value is for form posts |
| 23:13.17 | fridgesm | this isn't a form post though |
| 23:13.19 | josephscott | yep, different content encoding |
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| 23:16.28 | carmony | how, how can I let one user sudo as another user w/o requiring a password? |
| 23:27.44 | fungus | carmony ALL = (mysql) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mysqldump |
| 23:28.19 | carmony | do I have to list the commands? |
| 23:28.31 | carmony | or just say "All commands that mysql can execute on it's own?" |
| 23:28.33 | fungus | replace it with ALL for all commands |
| 23:28.37 | carmony | ok |
| 23:28.44 | fungus | carmony ALL = (mysql) NOPASSWD: ALL |
| 23:29.08 | fungus | carmony@server$ sudo -u mysql mysqldump ... |
| 23:29.43 | josephscott | sudo is very handy |
| 23:30.01 | fungus | If you don't trust the user completely, you might want to list all the commands they need. |
| 23:31.17 | fungus | there are ways to make lists of users, hosts, or commands to make it more readable/manageable. |
| 23:31.45 | carmony | sweet, it worked |
| 23:31.47 | fungus | ~sudo++ |
| 23:33.10 | carmony | ~fungus++ |
| 23:33.22 | carmony | fungus: you coming to uphpu this week? |
| 23:33.31 | fungus | yup |
| 23:34.23 | carmony | you can have a dessert on me ;) was in kind of a big bind with a script, and that saved my day :P |
| 23:35.11 | fungus | hehe. anytime. |
| 23:37.56 | carmony | I should have DDNA buy the entire usergroup food sometime |
| 23:38.14 | carmony | cause everyone here pretty much has saved by bacon once or twice at least |
| 23:39.16 | carmony | s/by bacon/my bacon/ |
| 23:39.44 | josephscott | ~food sponsors++ |
| 23:40.21 | josephscott | I think I'm finally going to get a roku box and set up a local media server, kids have messed up too many DVDs |
| 23:43.59 | carmony | fungus: in my shell script, if I want to send ALL my stdout and stderr text to /dev/null, so I use &> ? |
| 23:44.47 | fungus | 2>&1 > /dev/null |
| 23:45.22 | fungus | oh yeah, &> is a shortcut for that |
| 23:46.16 | carmony | hrm, not working for me |
| 23:46.50 | josephscott | just to rub it in a bit more - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/06/13/heat.ad.ap/index.html?sct=nba_t2_a8 |
| 23:47.30 | josephscott | "> /dev/null 2>&1" style redirects are common for cron entries as well |
| 23:48.27 | fungus | josephscott, lol, how embarrassing for macy's |
| 23:48.51 | josephscott | right under an article about loosing too |
| 23:49.52 | josephscott | all this talk of food, time for dinner :-) |
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