| 01:55.24 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: you aorund? :P |
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| 02:01.46 | DexterTheDragon | what up carmony |
| 02:02.16 | carmony | I was going to poke you with a bash scripting question |
| 02:02.19 | carmony | but I think I figured it out |
| 02:02.32 | DexterTheDragon | cool |
| 02:05.40 | carmony | how've you been DexterTheDragon ? |
| 02:06.19 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: I've been alright. Yourself? |
| 02:09.21 | carmony | pretty good, just getting done with a gnarly svn to git conversion |
| 02:10.33 | herlo | carmony: sorry, was travelling |
| 02:10.55 | carmony | herlo: np :) |
| 02:11.01 | herlo | carmony: in Seattle now |
| 02:11.04 | carmony | my google foo hasn't let me down yet |
| 02:11.06 | herlo | well, Bellevue |
| 02:11.20 | herlo | carmony: great! |
| 02:33.52 | carmony | ok, herlo, DexterTheDragon, how would you do this: I want to check to see if a branch exists and check it out. If not, I want to create the branch and then check it out |
| 02:39.21 | herlo | carmony: git checkout -b branch_name |
| 02:39.34 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: check the output of "git rev-list branchname", then either checkout or create |
| 02:39.46 | herlo | iirc if it already exists, it'll still checkit out, but if not, it will create it |
| 02:40.01 | herlo | nope |
| 02:40.18 | herlo | I'd probably do git branch and look at that |
| 02:40.30 | herlo | rather than git rev-list branchname, seems so long! |
| 02:41.13 | DexterTheDragon | if you don't care about errors just do |
| 02:41.21 | DexterTheDragon | git branch name 2>/dev/null |
| 02:41.24 | DexterTheDragon | git checkout name |
| 02:41.59 | carmony | ah, I'll do that |
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| 03:56.36 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: worked out well |
| 03:57.21 | carmony | ok, next one. How can I test if a directory is apart of a git repo? |
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| 05:01.40 | carmony | not allowing a space between = on assigning is going to be the death of me with bash |
| 05:01.59 | herlo | carmony: ?? |
| 05:02.06 | carmony | I get an error |
| 05:02.07 | carmony | on this: |
| 05:02.13 | carmony | is_git = $? |
| 05:02.14 | carmony | but |
| 05:02.18 | carmony | is_git=$? |
| 05:02.19 | carmony | works |
| 05:02.22 | herlo | right |
| 05:02.40 | carmony | that is gonna bug me |
| 05:02.42 | carmony | :P |
| 05:03.57 | herlo | haha, okay |
| 05:04.19 | herlo | I write most of my sysadmin scripts in python these days |
| 05:04.25 | carmony | yeah |
| 05:04.36 | carmony | only problem is the winders folks won't have python easily accessible |
| 05:04.56 | carmony | but these should work on msysgit |
| 05:05.01 | herlo | carmony: actually, they do |
| 05:05.06 | herlo | python works great on windows |
| 05:05.26 | herlo | http://python.org/download/ |
| 05:09.44 | carmony | hrm |
| 05:09.47 | carmony | might give it a shot then |
| 05:10.51 | herlo | carmony: good luck, I'll be able to help you more tomorrow :) nn |
| 05:10.57 | carmony | night! |
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| 13:48.41 | influx | Good day. |
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| 14:32.36 | carmony | sweet |
| 14:32.41 | carmony | I <3 fast internet |
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| 15:46.04 | josephscott | carmony: http://ilia.ws/files/ipc_2011_hidden_features.pdf |
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| 16:10.10 | carmony | josephscott: that is a lot of awesome tips |
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| 17:10.58 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 17:10.58 | ibot | takes fungus to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 17:13.38 | josephscott | $weather 84092 |
| 17:13.38 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for 84092 - Partly Cloudy 71f / 22c Humidity: 39% Wind: W at 4 mph |
| 17:13.52 | josephscott | that should make for nice walking weather at lunch |
| 17:16.24 | mgeary | "lunch" ? |
| 17:16.27 | mgeary | what is "lunch" ? |
| 17:20.14 | herlo | the time to eat food in the middl eof the day |
| 17:22.24 | mgeary | hmm. that's a really good idea |
| 17:31.11 | carmony | testing.. |
| 17:32.07 | carmony | arg, my internet is ticking me off |
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| 17:35.33 | SunSparc | stderr-: Do you have any opinion of the Nikon D5100? |
| 17:36.08 | SunSparc | I was looking at it as better than the D90 until I saw that it does not have an AF motor. |
| 17:37.36 | stderr- | I haven't played with it, but it has the same sensor as my D7000, which is an absolutely amazing sensor |
| 17:37.50 | stderr- | I don't really like the vari-angle lcd |
| 17:38.03 | SunSparc | stderr-: Yeah, was looking at some of the photos you took with it. Very nice. |
| 17:38.08 | stderr- | and I don't think the build is as solid as the D90 or D7000 |
| 17:38.38 | SunSparc | I am not a fan of the LCD either, one more thing to break. |
| 17:38.48 | stderr- | yea |
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| 17:40.50 | stderr- | ugh, the D5100 viewfinder doesn't look very attractive, either |
| 17:41.21 | codazoda | 300 mile scooter trip anyone? |
| 17:41.44 | SunSparc | stderr-: heh, I did not even notice that until you mentioned it. |
| 17:41.59 | SunSparc | codazoda: where are you going? |
| 17:42.20 | stderr- | yea, I'm pretty picky on my viewfinders, it's something a lot of people overlook, unfortunately. |
| 17:42.37 | stderr- | I really liked the D90's viewfinder, but the D7000 is even better |
| 17:42.55 | SunSparc | Well, if your eye is going to be in it, it better be a dang comfortable viewfinder. |
| 17:43.13 | stderr- | and sharp and big \m/ |
| 17:43.27 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:43.47 | codazoda | SunSparc: I dunno. Thinking Dutch John, UT through Kemmer, Wy, Green River, Wy. Maybe a Park City test ride first. I don't own a scooter, but I'm thinking it would be a fun trip. |
| 17:44.24 | codazoda | SunSparc: It might *not* be fun too. I dunno. |
| 17:45.43 | SunSparc | codazoda: heh, "scooter" and "road trip" just don't seem to go together in my mind. |
| 17:46.35 | codazoda | :-) |
| 17:47.32 | stderr- | has anyone camped at the campgrounds at Utah Lake? Looking for an easy place to bring the family for fishing and camping. |
| 17:47.38 | codazoda | Just crazy enough to be a little fun. I've found quite a few cases where people have done it. Guy in Provo went to |
| 17:47.40 | codazoda | Vancouver BC then down the coast almost to Mexico. 6000 miles. |
| 17:48.37 | SunSparc | stderr-: I have not camped down there. They appear to have recently upgraded a lot of the areas around there though. At least from what I saw last fall, last time I went boating down there. |
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| 17:49.20 | SunSparc | codazoda: On a scooter? Interesting. Give you plenty of time to think and take in the scenery. |
| 17:49.38 | stderr- | SunSparc: yea, looking at the Lakeside Campground |
| 17:49.55 | stderr- | can't do the backcountry in the Tetons since the wife is pregnant this summer |
| 17:50.04 | stderr- | which makes me sadface |
| 17:50.16 | SunSparc | Bummer, but you did that last year did you not? |
| 17:50.28 | stderr- | indeed |
| 17:50.51 | SunSparc | Great photos from that trip. |
| 17:51.05 | stderr- | thanks man |
| 17:51.24 | stderr- | I have like a thousand photos that I need to process, quite the backlog |
| 17:51.45 | SunSparc | That is always the bottleneck with photos. :) |
| 17:52.24 | stderr- | I thought not working on RAW all the time would help with that but, nope. I'm just lazy. |
| 17:52.35 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:53.07 | SunSparc | It all just takes time. |
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| 18:07.25 | ninnypants | stderr-: how do you process your photos? |
| 18:07.41 | ninnypants | I've been looking for a good workflow with doing that |
| 18:08.15 | ninnypants | I usually end up with a few photos that would be worth adjusting anything with raw, but I still want quality jpgs |
| 18:08.45 | ninnypants | do you just drop them through something like bridge once you're done and only adjust the ones you want to? |
| 18:09.09 | stderr- | Capture NX -> Lightroom is all |
| 18:09.37 | ninnypants | do you do any geotagging? |
| 18:10.23 | stderr- | Nope |
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| 18:12.38 | ninnypants | that's my only issue I think. I had to get a cheaper geotagger because there's nothing good for the d40 and it can't tag raw adds an extra step where I have to drop the photos back onto an sd card and tag them... |
| 18:18.41 | stderr- | Ah, that sucks. Yea, the D40 has a lot of features missing, unfortunately. |
| 18:29.28 | carmony | ok, anyone here have any ideas for affordable ways of sending lots of email? |
| 18:31.08 | carmony | you know what you guys use at auttomatic josephscott? |
| 18:31.39 | josephscott | we run our own mail servers |
| 18:32.04 | carmony | how do you manage their queue? |
| 18:33.04 | mgeary | carmony: can you be more specific? |
| 18:33.24 | carmony | ok |
| 18:33.32 | carmony | I need to send about 20,000 emails a day |
| 18:33.56 | carmony | the problem we're running into is people like Yahoo throttle the amount of email you can send from a single ip |
| 18:35.05 | carmony | so what I'd like is to have a cluster of servers on different IPs |
| 18:35.13 | carmony | where I put a message in a master queue |
| 18:35.31 | carmony | and a server in the cluster will grab it and try to send it |
| 18:36.54 | carmony | ideally I would like to be able to say "You can only send X emails per second on this server" |
| 18:50.47 | mgeary | hrm |
| 18:51.46 | mgeary | well, we send a few thousand emails on some days, but we use the webserver's local postfix to do it. We did build a mail queue, though, with a cron job that pulls off up to 500 emails every 10 minutes, to keep it from going too crazy |
| 18:52.04 | mgeary | but i can see why you'd want multiple servers |
| 18:52.13 | carmony | yeah, I'm trying to see if there is another solution out there than just hacking one together |
| 18:52.33 | mgeary | it wouldn't be too hard to set up, though. The biggest issue, i'd think, would be making sure that two servers didn't grab the same email from the queue |
| 18:54.03 | cro | carmony: I thought Postfix could do rate limiting itself |
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| 19:10.10 | herlo | cro: it can |
| 19:10.40 | carmony | so it looks like I'll need to implement my own queueing stuff |
| 19:12.54 | cro | carmony: Just to limit the rate of emails coming from one IP address? |
| 19:13.39 | carmony | well, ideally we want to setup multiple servers |
| 19:13.51 | cro | right |
| 19:14.19 | cro | why don't you just setup the cluster and round-robin the server that it gets submitted to? |
| 19:14.31 | carmony | hrm, that is an idea |
| 19:18.59 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: http://mailchimp.com http://www.campaignmonitor.com/ https://www.sailthru.com/ |
| 19:19.23 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: the only problem is a lot fo these guys are very expensive |
| 19:19.58 | DexterTheDragon | more expensive than buying ip's, servers, and building a queue system? |
| 19:22.19 | carmony | well, the problem is these aren't "email lists" per-say |
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| 19:26.16 | ninnypants | carmony: have you looked at http://sendgrid.com/ |
| 19:28.07 | ninnypants | might not be worth it now that I look closer at the pricing... |
| 19:29.13 | carmony | the problem with amazon ses is going through the pain of setting it up |
| 19:29.20 | carmony | you have to slowly transition your email onto it |
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| 19:56.51 | josephscott | wow http://igor113.livejournal.com/51213.html |
| 19:59.25 | carmony | josephscott: wow, what IS that? |
| 19:59.40 | josephscott | not sure, but it looks mean |
| 20:00.46 | mindjuju | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Figor113.livejournal.com%2F51213.html |
| 20:02.39 | mindjuju | looks like a plane that belongs in anime |
| 20:03.39 | ninnypants | I remember seeing these photos a while back it's some sort of war plane that colud land in the ocean an fire torpedos or something like that |
| 20:04.22 | mgeary | ~skinner ninnypants |
| 20:04.22 | ibot | ACTION buries ninnypants in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 20:08.51 | mindjuju | how many pigs do you guys know that can handle their ice fortress falling all around them, walls totaly collapse on top of them, and they escape with a mere black eye |
| 20:08.55 | mindjuju | what a bunch of garbage |
| 20:09.01 | mindjuju | http://chrome.angrybirds.com/ |
| 20:09.03 | josephscott | http://devour.com/video/hitler-finds-out-lebron-choked/ |
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| 21:55.56 | fungus | ~x zh en ä»åª½çï¼éæ¯ä»éº½é¬¼æ±è¥¿ |
| 21:56.17 | fungus | ~x zh-CN en ä»åª½çï¼éæ¯ä»éº½é¬¼æ±è¥¿ |
| 21:56.24 | mgeary | you don't say? |
| 21:56.52 | utahcon | anyone ever use the php rename() ? |
| 21:57.12 | utahcon | I am using it and it seems it is causing some problems with aapache |
| 21:57.17 | utahcon | I am renaming an apache log |
| 21:57.24 | utahcon | and then touching a new file to use |
| 21:57.29 | utahcon | as the log |
| 21:57.55 | fungus | Apache won't use a new log file until it is told to reload |
| 21:58.05 | utahcon | fungus: it is using the renamed file |
| 21:58.07 | utahcon | is that expected? |
| 21:58.16 | fungus | Yup |
| 21:58.23 | utahcon | is it using the file by referrencing the node? |
| 21:58.28 | utahcon | or soemthing like that? |
| 21:58.32 | fungus | After you touch a new file, tell Apache to reload |
| 21:58.39 | fungus | Yes, it has an open file handle. |
| 21:58.46 | utahcon | oh |
| 21:58.47 | fungus | Open file handles aren't affected by renaming |
| 21:58.50 | josephscott | or pipe the logging through something that looks for that change |
| 21:58.51 | utahcon | ok that makes perfect sense then |
| 21:59.19 | utahcon | is there a more friendly way to tell apache to stop using the old file? |
| 21:59.20 | josephscott | like cronolog |
| 22:00.10 | fungus | cronolog is pretty cool. |
| 22:00.37 | fungus | But instead of using PHP to rotate then, just use logrotate in your system. It's probably already installed. |
| 22:01.21 | utahcon | will look into that |
| 22:01.26 | utahcon | I am doing a custom loggin etup |
| 22:01.27 | utahcon | setup |
| 22:03.03 | fungus | eg. /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 is installed by default on Ubuntu systems. |
| 22:03.17 | fungus | Might only need a small tweak to point to your logs |
| 22:03.32 | utahcon | cool |
| 22:03.36 | utahcon | will look into that too |
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| 22:26.54 | romanovic | mgeary: ping |
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| 22:47.25 | fridgesm | I'm inviting a few friends, and need to know if I can entice them with pizza :) |
| 23:44.04 | redroy | fridgesm, I think it was C7 that bought the pizza⦠I could be wrong though |
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