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| 14:45.44 | carmony | goooooooood morning |
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| 15:13.55 | mindjuju | anybody going to buy Duke Nukem forever? |
| 15:16.31 | mgeary | i seem to recall when DNF was announced... i believe i was still in high school |
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| 15:22.48 | mahelious | first announced in april 97 |
| 15:23.01 | mahelious | i had just finished freshman year |
| 15:23.36 | mgeary | alright, so maybe i was 27... |
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| 15:47.47 | carmony | mindjuju: I dunno, it is suppose to be pretty raunchy |
| 15:48.27 | mindjuju | haven't played it since my first college days |
| 15:48.39 | herlo | mgeary is *old* |
| 15:48.54 | mindjuju | oh about 16yrs ago |
| 16:00.20 | mindjuju | i still remember the side scroll duke nukem, that was fun |
| 16:01.03 | mindjuju | @carmony - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF3OFNGngag |
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| 16:08.51 | mahelious | ugh. wife got a toy story song stuck in my head. |
| 16:09.10 | mahelious | think id prefer a hangover. |
| 16:10.34 | mindjuju | mahelious: when that happens, you just need another song to replace it, try this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY (100% no rickroll guarantee ) |
| 16:10.59 | herlo | mahelious: here's one that'll help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0 |
| 16:11.04 | herlo | mindjuju: ! you beat me to it |
| 16:11.16 | mindjuju | except mine isn't that |
| 16:11.21 | mindjuju | it'll really work |
| 16:11.21 | herlo | mindjuju: I know |
| 16:11.32 | herlo | mindjuju: maybe, neither are rickroll |
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| 16:11.57 | mahelious | mindjuju: that face will give me nightmares for a week |
| 16:12.03 | mindjuju | rofl |
| 16:12.45 | mahelious | herlo: you go to hell. you go to hell and you die. |
| 16:12.46 | herlo | mahelious: is it better than listening to toy story? |
| 16:12.53 | herlo | roflmao |
| 16:13.02 | mahelious | ill take woodys round up over rebecca black any day |
| 16:13.08 | herlo | lol |
| 16:13.18 | carmony | darn google and their time-wasting logos |
| 16:13.20 | mahelious | lol |
| 16:13.31 | herlo | I heard today's is cool |
| 16:13.34 | herlo | carmony: ^^ |
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| 16:49.54 | beandog | does anyone have preference on vm software |
| 16:50.01 | beandog | I usually use VirtualBox, but I'm trying vmware |
| 16:50.15 | mgeary | beandog: on Linux? |
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| 16:50.42 | xtrementl | i use virtualbox on windows/linux and vmware fuzion on mac |
| 16:50.47 | mindjuju | i've got 1 VM ESX out with about 6 active VMs running |
| 16:50.50 | beandog | mgeary: yah |
| 16:51.02 | mindjuju | and i'm deploying a VM ESXi (4.1) install |
| 16:51.07 | mindjuju | with 1 VM live right now |
| 16:51.28 | mindjuju | fungus, if i recall, has many VMs running |
| 16:51.43 | beandog | Im just wondering if anyone has noticed any performance differences between the two |
| 16:51.49 | beandog | I want to run OpenSolaris under a VM |
| 16:51.54 | beandog | VirtualBox is slow, but I dunno if that's just cuz its Solaris or not. |
| 16:52.01 | beandog | I might try kvm as well |
| 16:52.24 | herlo | kvm is *fast*! |
| 16:52.30 | beandog | yah? |
| 16:52.47 | skinner | how's xen compare to them? |
| 16:52.52 | beandog | I don't really have a preference right now, but VirtualBox's gui is nice and simple. |
| 16:52.56 | herlo | skinner: xen is old news |
| 16:53.00 | skinner | ok |
| 16:53.05 | skinner | herlo: thnx |
| 16:53.09 | mindjuju | i seem to have more trouble with my xen than vm |
| 16:53.25 | redroy | could google's logo be any cooler |
| 16:53.25 | beandog | herlo: kvm is the only one that uses the in-kernel virtio drivers, right? |
| 16:53.28 | mindjuju | vm no issues to date (1 yr since i've been here), xen some of the vms have had many issues |
| 16:53.31 | herlo | beandog: yes |
| 16:53.39 | beandog | herlo: okay |
| 16:53.39 | herlo | beandog: but libvirt is the real master |
| 16:53.44 | beandog | been trying to understand that one. |
| 16:53.51 | skinner | redroy: I say it can't |
| 16:54.39 | beandog | redroy: wow. I could play with that all day. |
| 16:54.52 | beandog | herlo: libvirt? |
| 16:55.12 | beandog | herlo: what does it even do ... I got a bit stuck on that one, so I just setup my kvm's manually |
| 16:55.44 | fungus | mindjuju, I have 123 VMs running right now. All on VMware ESX/ESXi |
| 16:55.45 | herlo | beandog: libvirt is the library that makes virtualization easy |
| 16:55.56 | beandog | fungus: buh |
| 16:55.58 | herlo | libvirt works with kvm, xen, even vmware |
| 16:56.34 | fungus | beandog, for your workstation experiments, VMware Player, or Virtualbox will work fine. I've tried both, they are both pretty good. |
| 16:57.08 | herlo | kvm have virt-manager and it's a full-fledged vm on your linux box with kvm |
| 16:57.25 | fungus | KVM and Xen are generally better used as servers for hosting many VMs in production, not really workstation IMHO |
| 16:57.48 | beandog | okay |
| 16:58.02 | beandog | I just need to get an OpenSolaris vm setup so I can test some web hosting stuff. |
| 16:58.11 | beandog | I'm trying to pinpoint why it's so freaking slow. |
| 16:58.18 | herlo | fungus: nah, I use kvm every day on my lappy |
| 16:58.19 | beandog | It seriously takes 5 minutes to boot. |
| 16:58.30 | herlo | I've got 3 running right now |
| 16:58.32 | beandog | well, on my mac |
| 16:58.37 | beandog | A bit less on my desktop |
| 16:58.39 | herlo | takes literally 2 minutes to set i tup |
| 16:58.42 | fungus | I haven't tried KVM in a long time, but when I did it was quite fiddly. |
| 16:58.46 | herlo | s/i t/it / |
| 16:58.59 | herlo | fungus: yeah, it's come a long way since RH bought qumranet |
| 16:59.00 | beandog | herlo: do you use a gui to setup kvm images? |
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| 16:59.05 | herlo | beandog: yes |
| 16:59.08 | herlo | called virt-manager |
| 16:59.14 | beandog | okay |
| 16:59.21 | herlo | but there's a whole cli tool called virsh that works quite well too |
| 16:59.25 | beandog | I was having trouble configuring that on mine |
| 16:59.29 | beandog | herlo: oh? awesome. Ill try that |
| 16:59.35 | herlo | and while we are at it, check out libguestfs |
| 16:59.51 | beandog | okay |
| 16:59.59 | herlo | it's kind of like a fuse filesystem to access your vm |
| 17:00.15 | beandog | really |
| 17:00.17 | beandog | that would be nice. |
| 17:00.17 | herlo | not sure how well it all works on mac, btw |
| 17:00.36 | fungus | beandog, on a Mac you have 3 workstation level options for virtualization |
| 17:00.51 | fungus | Virtualbox, VMware Fusion, and Paralells |
| 17:02.05 | fungus | Virtualbox is the only free option, other than free trials of the others. |
| 17:02.14 | beandog | I like how virtualbox integrates with the keyboard and mouse so easily |
| 17:05.42 | fungus | VMware does too, after you install the guest tools |
| 17:06.08 | josephscott | http://killorn.tumblr.com/post/4489986161/here-is-a-picture-of-legendary-comic-book-writer |
| 17:06.36 | fungus | lol |
| 17:12.42 | carmony | josephscott: lol! |
| 17:15.35 | mahelious | its actually comic book guy. wow. |
| 17:15.46 | mahelious | one step closer to a live-action simpsons |
| 17:16.46 | mindjuju | i wonder how much he paid to get that pick |
| 17:16.50 | mindjuju | i'm guessing at least $50? |
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| 17:36.56 | carmony | man, I'm having a hard time focusing at work today |
| 17:37.23 | mgeary | ~focus carmony |
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| 17:38.20 | beandog | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2269 |
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| 17:53.10 | beandog | ~apb sunsparc |
| 17:53.10 | ibot | ACTION hires Tim to rough up sunsparc |
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| 18:44.38 | josephscott | and another bug hunt is on! |
| 18:45.04 | macnewbold | yay! |
| 18:45.13 | macnewbold | hunt 'em down and squash 'em! |
| 18:48.23 | beandog | ~squash DexterTheDragon |
| 18:48.23 | ibot | ACTION supplies DexterTheDragon with squash of all sorts of shapes, sizes and varieties |
| 18:48.39 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit beandog |
| 18:48.39 | ibot | ACTION stikes at beandog with the ruinous sun scratch blinding beandog in one eye! |
| 18:48.43 | beandog | doh |
| 18:56.45 | mindjuju | that's a mean strike |
| 18:56.53 | mindjuju | ~bdhit dtd |
| 18:56.53 | ibot | ACTION launches the Knee of the Crippled Roosters and smiles at dtd's pain |
| 18:57.07 | mindjuju | hmm, that's more for thebigdog than beandog |
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| 19:41.47 | josephscott | $weather 84092 |
| 19:41.47 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for 84092 - Cloudy 66f / 19c Humidity: 47% Wind: N at 16 mph |
| 19:42.06 | josephscott | getting a fair bit of rain today |
| 19:44.17 | herlo | we got a little |
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| 20:19.01 | josephscott | oh caching layer, how I both love and hate you at the same time |
| 20:27.00 | macnewbold | isn't that always the way |
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| 20:55.53 | beandog | man, what did we ever do before pastebins |
| 20:58.16 | herlo | beandog: spammed IRC |
| 20:58.48 | josephscott | just uploaded via FTP |
| 20:58.49 | beandog | oh yah. |
| 20:58.51 | beandog | that's right. |
| 21:00.50 | beandog | im tired of backups, maybe Ill look into that one mindjuju is using |
| 21:00.52 | beandog | what was it |
| 21:00.53 | beandog | bacula? |
| 21:02.15 | beandog | I remember it sounded like a B-list horror movie. |
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| 21:04.14 | herlo | beandog: rdiff-backup is pretty nice, too |
| 21:09.05 | macnewbold | i've loved rsnapshot too, fwiw |
| 21:09.30 | macnewbold | rsync w/hardlinks = "looks like full backup, takes the disk space of an incremental" |
| 21:22.11 | josephscott | fun, fixed one bug (caching), only to find another (also caching) |
| 21:23.05 | macnewbold | haha |
| 21:23.13 | macnewbold | too funny |
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| 21:40.03 | beandog | I found the COOLEST book at the thrift store |
| 21:40.49 | mindjuju | so mgeary, did Utopia ever come or are you drowning in their lies? |
| 21:41.02 | beandog | "1001 ways to be a best friend" |
| 21:41.02 | mgeary | mindjuju: bah |
| 21:41.27 | mindjuju | those painful painful lies |
| 21:41.29 | mindjuju | grr! |
| 21:41.47 | mgeary | mindjuju: so, supposedly it's all hooked up down below, but our landlord thinks that we need to wait until *their* ISP comes and "assigns all the IP addresses" before we can contact *our* ISP who will come and hook us up |
| 21:42.16 | fridgesm | I've been on UTOPIA since 2006 or so :) |
| 21:42.18 | mgeary | i believe everything is in place for our ISP to get us set up, but our landlord won't let us do anything until their stuff is set up first. |
| 21:42.24 | mgeary | fridgesm: me too, at home |
| 21:42.33 | mgeary | well, iProvo |
| 21:42.35 | fridgesm | Yeah, I'd like it at work, but no go there |
| 21:42.45 | mindjuju | painful |
| 21:42.56 | fridgesm | If you have Comcast Business internet, does that give you access to ESPN3.com? |
| 21:46.31 | beandog | I also got a GI Joe comic book |
| 21:46.37 | beandog | and two star trek tng novels |
| 21:47.46 | mindjuju | @beandog - was it this episode ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBTRp80Q64U |
| 21:47.50 | mgeary | uh... |
| 21:47.53 | mgeary | ~admire beandog |
| 21:47.53 | ibot | ACTION secretly and androgynously wishes it were just like beandog |
| 21:47.55 | mindjuju | it's my fav |
| 21:48.12 | beandog | mindjuju: I don't buy the episode novelizations |
| 21:48.48 | beandog | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M |
| 21:49.32 | mindjuju | picard is such a stick in the mud sometimes |
| 21:49.47 | beandog | he keeps turning down Beverly |
| 21:49.49 | mindjuju | could have left Q's fantasy women with Wharf a little longer |
| 21:50.13 | mgeary | yeah, but Beverly had all that baggage <cough>Wesley</cough> |
| 21:50.21 | beandog | lol |
| 21:50.35 | mindjuju | a simple transport error and wesley is "handled" |
| 21:50.41 | mgeary | hahaha |
| 21:50.58 | beandog | lol |
| 21:51.06 | beandog | that's horrible mindjuju |
| 21:51.33 | mindjuju | i did who's on first for senior comedy act |
| 21:51.41 | fridgesm | Yes, but without Wesley, who would Sheldon Cooper's nemesis be? |
| 21:53.57 | beandog | whose that? |
| 21:54.10 | fridgesm | You don't watch Big Bang Theory? |
| 21:54.15 | beandog | no |
| 21:54.19 | fridgesm | I'm sorry :) |
| 21:54.33 | fridgesm | You should get it on Netflix, great show for geeks |
| 21:54.45 | fridgesm | my wife likes it too, she just doesn't get quite as much of the humor |
| 22:00.00 | herlo | macnewbold: great show! |
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| 22:03.53 | mindjuju | i always suspect everything is a trap, that's why i'm still alive |
| 22:04.03 | macnewbold | looks legit - but it's only on disc not on instant watch :-/ |
| 22:04.16 | mindjuju | see, it was a trap |
| 22:05.18 | josephscott | ~say mindjuju : it's a trap! |
| 22:05.18 | ibot | mindjuju : it's a trap! |
| 22:05.49 | josephscott | but can you track a falcon on a cloudy day? |
| 22:06.26 | mindjuju | my tracking skills are LEGEND! |
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| 22:09.14 | beandog | josephscott: princess bride? |
| 22:09.38 | josephscott | of course! |
| 22:09.44 | beandog | that one took me a good minute |
| 22:10.10 | josephscott | one of the greatest movies of all time :-) |
| 22:10.20 | beandog | its okay |
| 22:11.27 | josephscott | $8ball do ROUSes really exist? |
| 22:11.27 | raifbot | josephscott - My sources say no. |
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| 22:12.24 | beandog | Ive seen it so many times its ruined it for me |
| 22:12.47 | josephscott | $8ball can beandog's ruining be undone? |
| 22:12.47 | raifbot | josephscott - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 22:12.52 | beandog | that and little mermaid |
| 22:13.03 | josephscott | $8ball can beandog's ruining be undone? |
| 22:13.04 | raifbot | josephscott - You may rely on it. |
| 22:13.59 | fridgesm | http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/video/ |
| 22:15.26 | josephscott | did they finally put up full episodes? |
| 22:16.09 | josephscott | I had never watched it, and when I went to find them online to catch up they weren't available |
| 22:17.26 | macnewbold | i can't believe that the non-free hulu+ still has commercials... |
| 22:17.29 | macnewbold | lame |
| 22:17.49 | macnewbold | it was worth getting discs from netflix to not have to deal with that |
| 22:18.11 | josephscott | the only thing better than getting people used to watching commercials is getting to pay for the privilege of watching commercials :-) |
| 22:19.24 | macnewbold | like cable tv |
| 22:19.59 | macnewbold | there are days where i'm surpised they don't have an actual channel/network that is all commercials all the time |
| 22:20.10 | macnewbold | not like QVC, but like regular commercials, with no show |
| 22:29.14 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 22:29.14 | raifbot | Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants. |
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| 22:37.12 | josephscott | wow, some people really put effort into playing the current google doodle - http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tune=IBBQIQkgVFCOUEIQRSjlEqEEEo4RCgFFKEESoBQQhFAqOEQJApQSjhEqGEIVBQISkgVFCOUEIRSCiQhEqEQUw4wCUkChCYBUUIRQShhEJKUMIlRAgjCKQUSEJIFRQjlHGIEAgJhKkRFBCJUgYoIRKkhFBKJEhIYFRAjlCGMIhggA |
| 22:38.27 | herlo | ~tinyurl josephscott |
| 22:38.27 | ibot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=josephscott' and laughs maniacally! |
| 22:39.09 | josephscott | I prefer to let people know where they are going with a URL, as much as possible |
| 22:40.38 | beandog | man |
| 22:40.43 | beandog | OpenSolaris is weird. |
| 22:40.48 | beandog | And there's not much docs out there. |
| 22:40.48 | beandog | :T |
| 22:40.51 | fungus | lol |
| 22:41.11 | beandog | fungus: whut |
| 22:41.14 | fungus | you think OpenSolaris is odd? try Solaris 10 |
| 22:41.42 | beandog | fungus: yah? |
| 22:41.47 | beandog | is it even more unix-y? |
| 22:43.50 | herlo | never did get to run 10 |
| 22:44.41 | beandog | I got webmin running, hallelujah |
| 22:44.44 | beandog | an oasis of familiarity |
| 22:44.51 | beandog | it's saying I'm running Sun Solaris 11 though |
| 22:45.25 | herlo | I'd guess that is what OpenSolaris' version would be |
| 22:45.53 | fungus | OpenSolaris has been tweaked a lot to more closely match Linux distros. |
| 22:45.56 | beandog | huh, okay |
| 22:46.15 | fungus | Yeah, Solaris was way more unix-y and unwieldy |
| 22:46.40 | beandog | I wonder if it'd run on an old Pentium |
| 22:46.42 | beandog | probably not. |
| 22:46.58 | fungus | Sun hired Ian Murdock (of Debian fame) to work on making OpenSolaris much more dynamic and linux-ish |
| 22:47.21 | fungus | not sure if he's still around there these days though, or if they gave up on his work. |
| 22:48.04 | josephscott | I wonder what the situation is with open solaris after the oracle purchase |
| 22:48.28 | fungus | Open Solaris was canned |
| 22:48.50 | fungus | They will release an open source Solaris Express after the major release of Solaris 11 |
| 22:49.05 | fungus | But they are taking it all internal |
| 22:49.27 | fungus | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/13/opensolaris_is_dead/ |
| 22:49.29 | beandog | no more community development? |
| 22:49.40 | fungus | nope. Oracle murdered it |
| 22:49.40 | josephscott | last time I worried about Solaris was when they were still confused about SunOS :-) |
| 22:49.46 | DexterTheDragon | it forked to OpenIndiana |
| 22:50.23 | fungus | interesting. |
| 22:50.53 | fungus | Well only partially, I have only one possible reason to ever use any kind of Solaris descendant... ZFS |
| 22:50.59 | josephscott | good to see a community fork |
| 22:51.30 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: oh cool, thanks man |
| 22:52.06 | josephscott | freenas has zfs support, by virtue of being built on freebsd |
| 22:53.27 | beandog | I dont understand why BSD has ZFS, but Linux doesn't ... ? |
| 22:55.05 | josephscott | take a wild guess |
| 22:55.20 | beandog | I have no idea |
| 22:55.46 | codazoda | Ew... Me... Me... License? |
| 22:56.37 | codazoda | Although, anything that works under a BSD license probably works under GPL. So... Tell us. |
| 22:56.50 | beandog | codazoda: yah thats what I was thinking |
| 22:57.36 | josephscott | GPL would be the correct answer |
| 22:58.09 | josephscott | you can't meet the requirements of the CDDL (zfs) and GPL (linux) at the same time, so the linux kernel is forbidden from shipping with zfs support |
| 22:58.32 | josephscott | if you want to build it from source and just use it (not distribute it), you could do that |
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| 23:00.48 | josephscott | and then there is the fuse approach for zfs support |
| 23:00.49 | beandog | oh |
| 23:00.52 | beandog | so does it work for linux? |
| 23:01.05 | codazoda | GPL-incompatibility was actually a design decision, it looks like. |
| 23:01.08 | codazoda | I use fuse for development. |
| 23:01.15 | codazoda | Under linux. |
| 23:01.27 | codazoda | Works great for me. |
| 23:02.15 | codazoda | I mount half a dozen servers into /mnt so that I can edit files without uploads or downloads. Makes testing easier. |
| 23:02.56 | josephscott | beandog: I don't know what the current status of development is for those two 'zfs on linux' approaches, last I looked I had the impression that the fuse approach was more mature, but obviously slower |
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| 23:06.58 | stderr- | http://laravel.com/ |
| 23:14.27 | beandog | never heard of this one |
| 23:14.28 | beandog | any good |
| 23:17.55 | wps | I have a 90k salary for a senior web dev |
| 23:17.59 | wps | where is he/she? |
| 23:20.27 | stderr- | won't find a better programmer |
| 23:26.19 | mgeary | wps: i'm surprised you haven't gotten any bites. I'm trying to hire a junior level (somewhere in the 40s) developer, and all i seem to get are people who want $80k+ |
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| 23:26.56 | mgeary | wps: did you see my msg just now? |
| 23:30.59 | beandog | I'll take $80k+ |
| 23:32.13 | beandog | okay |
| 23:32.18 | beandog | silly thing. |
| 23:38.47 | wps | mgeary: no |
| 23:38.54 | mgeary | wps: i'm surprised you haven't gotten any bites. I'm trying to hire a junior level (somewhere in the 40s) developer, and all i seem to get are people who want $80k+ |
| 23:39.11 | wps | I've received bites but they aren't senior |
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| 23:39.30 | beandog | wps: what do you need a dev for |
| 23:39.34 | beandog | what project you got cooking |
| 23:39.45 | wps | to join my team at Vivint |
| 23:39.49 | wps | LAMP shop |
| 23:39.52 | beandog | oh, vivint |
| 23:39.54 | beandog | that alarm company |
| 23:40.04 | josephscott | what constitutes senior? |
| 23:40.10 | wps | alarm is just a subset of what we do now |
| 23:40.12 | wps | home automation |
| 23:40.13 | wps | solar |
| 23:40.15 | wps | smart grid |
| 23:40.29 | beandog | wps: where are they located |
| 23:40.42 | wps | Riverwoods |
| 23:40.55 | wps | senior would be partial experience and partial skill |
| 23:40.59 | beandog | is that in orem? |
| 23:41.05 | beandog | provo |
| 23:41.07 | beandog | wherever |
| 23:41.09 | wps | technically Provo, but basically Orem |
| 23:41.31 | wps | josephscott: someone better than me |
| 23:41.56 | beandog | is it on jobs lit |
| 23:41.57 | beandog | list |
| 23:42.00 | wps | yeah |
| 23:42.02 | beandog | kk |
| 23:42.10 | wps | http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu-jobs/2011-May/000519.html |
| 23:42.23 | josephscott | wps: are you hiring a replacement? :-) |
| 23:42.28 | wps | nope |
| 23:42.30 | beandog | $70k to $90k |
| 23:42.36 | beandog | Does someone come in asking for $70k? |
| 23:43.00 | wps | you can ask for whatever you want. I have 90k for the position |
| 23:43.19 | wps | but I'm not going to pay that unless the candidate's worth it |
| 23:43.31 | jtsnow | wps: what's considered senior? |
| 23:43.52 | beandog | whee! |
| 23:43.55 | beandog | \o/ |
| 23:43.55 | wps | I need someone that is experienced and smartâ¦Â confident |
| 23:44.05 | wps | can write advanced MySQL queries |
| 23:44.13 | wps | experience with optimization and security |
| 23:44.31 | mgeary | what he's saying is that he wants me, but he can't afford me |
| 23:44.32 | beandog | wps: if it wasnt so far south, Id take a look. |
| 23:44.36 | wps | experience with ajax and complex javascript |
| 23:44.40 | beandog | mgeary: lols |
| 23:44.43 | wps | mgeary: bingo |
| 23:45.19 | josephscott | I'll keep an ear out, but most of the "senior" level folks I know are pretty happy where they are at |
| 23:45.23 | wps | someone that works quickly with no help |
| 23:45.34 | wps | are they all making more than 90k? |
| 23:45.46 | wps | what would it take to get them to move? |
| 23:45.50 | mgeary | actually, that's a great job posting. for me it's like josephscott says, i'm very satisfied and am a bigger fish in this pond than i'll likely be anywhere else |
| 23:45.54 | josephscott | if they aren't over already, they are probably in the ball park |
| 23:46.02 | wps | k |
| 23:46.10 | beandog | Okay |
| 23:46.14 | beandog | I already like OpenIndiana MUCH more. |
| 23:46.24 | wps | OpenIndiana? |
| 23:46.44 | beandog | OpenSolaris fork |
| 23:46.49 | josephscott | and if the pay is roughly the same as where they are at, and they are happy, that isn't much incentive to switch |
| 23:47.09 | wps | yeah |
| 23:47.16 | wps | what about free breakfast and lunch? |
| 23:47.21 | wps | waffle wednesday? |
| 23:47.41 | wps | free, on-site doctor (for you and your family)? |
| 23:47.50 | wps | full-court gym with weight room? |
| 23:48.05 | wps | and working with ME!?!?!?! |
| 23:48.07 | wps | :) |
| 23:48.24 | wps | there are a lot of girls here |
| 23:48.26 | beandog | waffle wednesday? |
| 23:48.36 | wps | oh yeah |
| 23:48.45 | wps | dangâ¦Â wed off beats waffles |
| 23:48.51 | beandog | thats my favorite part of this job... four day weeks |
| 23:48.52 | beandog | \o/ |
| 23:51.46 | mindjuju | wow, onsite dr? |
| 23:52.02 | josephscott | from what I've seen many places still struggle to hire talented folks, just not enough of them to go around I guess |
| 23:52.12 | mindjuju | i've got to say that 1+ my full bennies |
| 23:52.27 | beandog | If you watch NASA backwards, it's about a space agency that has no spaceflight capability, then does low-orbit flights, then lands on moon. |
| 23:52.47 | josephscott | dinner is on, later guys |
| 23:52.54 | mindjuju | cya |
| 23:53.17 | mindjuju | on premise dr sounds nice, but i don't think i get sick enough to warrant it |
| 23:53.23 | mindjuju | i barely see the dr once a year |
| 23:53.54 | beandog | mindjuju: not only that, its Doctor Crusher! |
| 23:54.27 | wps | what about the working with me part?!?! |
| 23:54.31 | wps | :) |
| 23:54.42 | beandog | Dr Crusher > wps |
| 23:54.46 | mindjuju | working with you would be fun, but having dr bev crusher |
| 23:54.52 | mindjuju | yeah, that like a +10 |
| 23:54.57 | beandog | although |
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| 23:54.59 | beandog | waffles wednesday |
| 23:55.02 | beandog | that's tempting. |
| 23:55.12 | beandog | wps: is it working with you, or for you? |
| 23:55.21 | wps | both |
| 23:55.22 | beandog | either one would be cool. just wondering. |
| 23:55.23 | mindjuju | who doesn't enjoy a fine waffle on a wednesday? |
| 23:55.38 | beandog | the klingons |
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| 23:55.53 | wps | I'm a boss that also still works |
| 23:55.53 | mindjuju | why, as a matter of fact, i myself had waffles on Wednesday |
| 23:56.02 | mindjuju | left over from bday waffles on monday |
| 23:56.35 | beandog | this sounds like the start of a children's song. |
| 23:57.18 | wps | can ksl.com get any more cluttered? |
| 23:57.23 | wps | what a mess |
| 23:57.56 | mindjuju | i think they charge now for jobs, if you're headed that way wps |
| 23:58.05 | beandog | whut |
| 23:58.07 | beandog | failsies. |
| 23:59.16 | mindjuju | nothing on the internet is *meant* to be free long, it's there as an enticement, which is ironic, because at the rate of development, the next great thing appears on the interwebs about the same time the last latest and greatest starts to charge |
| 23:59.30 | beandog | mindjuju: truer words |
| 23:59.38 | beandog | ~mindjuju++ |
| 23:59.55 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:59.59 | mindjuju | thx beandog! |