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02:34.40raifbotChuck Norris can slam a revolving door.
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13:48.50influxMorning.
13:51.34herlomorning
13:51.46influxHowdy do, Herloo.
13:57.24herloinflux: Howdy do to you too.
14:01.41influx:D
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16:01.17mgeary~rlart
16:01.17ibotfarts in raifbot's general direction
16:01.33mindjujuwhat up mgeary?
16:01.40mgearyhow's it going, mindjuju ?
16:01.58mindjujuwell, aside from almost giving somebody a punch in the nose yesterday, pretty good
16:02.23mgeary??
16:02.25mindjujuand you know me, not usually the punchy type
16:02.36mgearydid he insult your mom?
16:03.08mindjujuthe goofus had the audacity to ask me if i knew any illegals that had a car painting kit that could paint his cars for cheap
16:03.33mgeary...because you're of latino descent? really??
16:03.35mindjujui asked him if he wanted 10 great phrases of exploitations too
16:04.08mgearyyou should have said, "no, but i've been looking to get a great deal on a slave, do you know where i could find one?"
16:04.16mindjujuyup, because latino , but even still
16:04.20mindjujuyup, thats exactly it
16:04.28mindjujuhere, let me help you exploit somebody
16:04.45mindjujuREALLY pissed me off
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16:09.27mindjujuin other news, we went to see Kung Fu Panda 2 last night
16:09.31mindjujuwasn't as good as the first
16:09.41mindjujuCorban liked it though
16:10.16mgearyyep, that's my assessment as well. Not as good as the first, but still fun
16:10.22unummy daughter insists on watching land before time 11
16:10.30mindjujuoh man
16:10.41mindjujuwe saw LBT 1 and i think 2
16:10.43mindjujubut thats it
16:10.57mgearygroan. i saw LBT 1 in the theater, i believe
16:11.12mgearythat's how old that franchise is
16:11.17mindjujurofl
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16:12.08unumnetflix has a lot of them
16:13.59mindjujuwe were pretty lucky though, corban loved blues clues (pre-new guy) and max and ruby and some kind of ballerina, he did like dora for a while, but that passed
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16:15.47Justin__Hi everyone, I need some help with loading some PDO extensions in PHP. My first question is should I be able to see all my PDO extensions in a phpinfo() page?
16:18.55mindjujujustin, i think so, i'm seeing all of mine
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16:22.37Justin__so here is my php info page http://borders.arizona.edu:8080/phpinfo.php
16:23.00Justin__=)
16:23.18mindjujupage no come up
16:23.51Justin__darn, that port must be protected by our firewall
16:24.03mindjujuand a good thing too! :)
16:24.06Justin__=)
16:25.55mindjujuso Justin__ , what is going on?  how can we help?
16:25.57Justin__http://imagebin.org/157351
16:26.48mindjujuis this jgiboney?
16:26.52Justin__yes
16:27.06mindjujuso bro, haven't seen you in here for a long time
16:27.18Justin__i can uncomment the extension=php_pdo_mssql line but it doesn't appear
16:27.22Justin__i know
16:27.36Justin__i am getting a PhD and I have been really busy
16:27.50mindjujuawesome!
16:28.13mindjujuso i'm guessing this is a winders server?
16:28.20Justin__yes 2008 R2
16:28.32mindjujurecognized the sqlsrv stuff
16:28.39Justin__=)
16:28.58mindjujuyeah, for me it does show
16:29.00mindjujuPDO Driver for MSSQL DB-libenabledFlavourMSSQL_70
16:29.07mindjujuand thats in my pi.php
16:29.07Justin__it is what we already had running, so I thought I would give it a go
16:29.10mgearyJustin__: ah, i see your problem
16:29.16mgearytwo words
16:29.22mgeary"Windows Server"
16:29.24Justin__lol
16:29.28mindjujuknew it, awesome
16:29.47Justin__i am not familiar with pi.php
16:30.06Justin__oh phpinfo?
16:30.10mindjujuyup
16:30.32Justin__i should just have to uncomment 3 lines from my research online
16:30.42Justin__1. extension=php_pdo.dll
16:30.54Justin__2. extension=php_mssql.dll
16:31.04Justin__3. extension=php_pdo_mssql.dll
16:31.10Justin__is that correct?
16:32.01mindjuju...checking...
16:34.15Justin__to give more context, I am trying to install Drupal on this windows box with sql server running on another box
16:34.57mindjuju[PHP_PDO]
16:34.58mindjujuextension=php_pdo.dll
16:35.28fridgesmwhat SAPI are you using?  Apache or IIS?
16:35.35Justin__apache
16:35.37Justin__2.2
16:35.59fridgesmand I assume you restarted Apache after editing your php.ini?
16:36.13Justin__yes
16:36.19Justin__multiple times for good measure =)
16:36.52fridgesmif so, I'd say that either php_pdo_mssql.dll doesn't exist, or it doesn't exist in the right place, or your php.ini is being read from a different location than where you are editing
16:37.12mindjujuor apache doesn't have rights
16:37.26fridgesmgood point
16:37.57Justin__hmmm
16:38.11Justin__it is the right place
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16:38.26Justin__and the files exist
16:39.21Justin__also if i try uncommenting the mysql extension, it doesn't appear in the phpinfo page either
16:39.35Justin__but if I uncomment the ODBC extension, it does appear
16:40.50Justin__the permission seem to be the same for all three extensions
16:43.29fridgesmsince the ODBC works, then the php.ini file is being read correctly
16:43.33fridgesmso you can eliminate that
16:43.35Justin__yes
16:43.55fridgesmso something is keeping the mssql pdo from working
16:44.03fridgesmis the mssql ext loading correctly?
16:44.10fridgesmthe non-pdo one
16:44.22fridgesmalso, have you checked Apache error logs?
16:44.24Justin__let me check
16:45.40Justin__uncommented the extension=php_mssql.dll
16:45.55Justin__did a search for mss on the phpinfo page results in nothing
16:46.12fridgesmcheck the error logs
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16:46.37mgearyexcept maybe working with ASP.NET
16:46.44fridgesmworking with it on IIS?
16:46.45mindjujui can, that same setup where the mssql db is remote
16:46.51mindjujuand that ups it a full order, trust me
16:46.53mgearyfridgesm: touché
16:47.08mindjujui'm not sure why that's not loading for you justin, but this gets worse from here
16:47.12mgearymindjuju: but that's just a variation on the same theme
16:47.32mindjujubecause the mssql db is remote, you HAVE to install client tools on this machine so that you can connect to db
16:48.15Justin__k
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16:49.17mindjujuask beandog, just a couple days ago, i finished work after a solid week getting all the components to play nice together
16:49.21Justin__the error log doesn't seem to be displaying anything about mssql
16:50.03mindjujutry this to ON
16:50.04mindjujudisplay_startup_errors = Off
16:50.08fridgesmwell that sucks
16:51.07Justin__and where do i chec for the startup errors?
16:51.14mindjujuphp.ini
16:51.26mindjujuerr, are you asking where to set?
16:51.49Justin__i set it in php.ini
16:52.02Justin__and went to the phpinfo page
16:52.15Justin__should it be at the top?
16:52.24Justin__or in an error log somewhere
16:53.49mindjujucheck apache error log, i think it dumps there
16:54.11mindjujuactually justin, i want you to try something, on the command line
16:54.22mindjujugo to cmd, and navigate to where php is installed
16:54.25mindjujuthen says this
16:54.34mindjujuphp -i >phpinfo.txt
16:54.41mindjujusee if it gives you your error in there
16:55.07mindjujuif you want to see the other command line arguments they are here http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.options.php
16:56.11Justin__k did it, need to download notepadd++ to read it =)
16:56.16Justin__hold on
16:56.24mindjujuactually, any text editor can read that
16:56.29mindjujujust read it in wordpad
16:56.41mindjujubecause notepad doesn't respect the return char
16:56.54mindjujuDtD, that link was awesome!
16:57.43Justin__=)
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16:58.42Justin__no errors popping out at me
16:58.50Justin__but it does say that pdo is enabled
16:58.56fridgesmthey would be at the top
16:59.08Justin__mssql and mssql pdo are enabled
16:59.19mindjujucurious
16:59.28mindjujui'm not sure why they wouldn't show on phpinfo, they do on mine
16:59.30Justin__no errors
16:59.33fridgesmcuriouser and curiouser...
16:59.38mindjujuhave you tried connecting
17:00.07fridgesmthey're not showing because he has no errors on the CLI
17:00.25Justin__well i was going through the drupal setup and it says I have no PDO enabled
17:00.31Justin__so i haven't tried connecting yet
17:00.48Justin__CLI??
17:01.22mindjujucli = command line interface
17:01.26Justin__i see
17:01.58mindjujufridgesm: actually, if i recall, running php from here uses the ini by default,
17:02.07mindjujuhe has to opt out of using ini for it not to be used
17:02.22mindjujuthat said, if there is a prob with the module, i was hoping it might show up here
17:02.30mindjujuguess no though
17:02.38Justin__does that mean it is an apache problem?
17:02.49fridgesmshouldn't be
17:03.16mindjujuagree, i put $$ that it is php prob
17:03.31Justin__k
17:03.54Justin__what is the difference between the CLI and what Apache does though? As there appears to be a difference
17:04.29mindjujuwell, click that link kfor the arguments
17:04.44mindjujuif you used the -c or the -n arguements, then it would be different
17:04.45PoeticIntensityin most set-ups, cli and apache have their own php.ini files.
17:04.53mindjujumy understanding, was taht they run the same
17:04.55PoeticIntensitywhich could make them radically different.
17:05.10Justin__click which link?
17:05.17mindjujuhttp://www.php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.options.php
17:05.32fridgesmit depends on how PHP is compiled
17:05.50mindjujui'm not sure what apache would be doing with it's own php.ini
17:06.04mindjujubut phpinfo will tell you what ini it's running off of
17:06.18mindjujuand if you take that path that phpinfo gives you and run
17:06.19fridgesmit could be as simple as the Apache PHP not being able to find or load the .dll, while the CLI can
17:06.41mindjujuphp -c "path/to/ini/php.ini"
17:06.44fridgesmlooking at the extension path
17:06.59Justin__now I just noticed that the phpinfo page says that the ini path is in c:\windows but the loaded config file is c:\php-5.2\php.ini
17:08.51Justin__is that causing a problem
17:08.59Justin__running that command
17:09.57mindjujuso justin, quick question, in your c:\php-5.2\php.ini do you see the following lines?  http://pastebin.com/MqyHPxfQ
17:11.25Justin__yes both uncommented
17:12.59Justin__that command is still running, is that normal?
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17:13.21mindjujuyou can kill it
17:13.36Justin__k
17:15.11mindjujuhttp://php.net/manual/en/pdo.installation.php
17:17.15Justin__now one thing that I did was download the zip of PHP instead of the installation package
17:17.26Justin__I read in multiple places that this was preferred
17:17.50mindjujudid you put php in the path in the envars?
17:18.02mindjujuthis is a wild guess, but something i did
17:18.04Justin__no
17:18.13Justin__i'll try that
17:18.20mindjujui can't see it hurting and something easily undone
17:18.43mindjujuyou will need to reboot AFAIK after updating envars, or at least i always do
17:20.27Justin__restarting
17:22.32Justin__after restart: mssql is now appearing in the PDO section
17:22.40Justin__problem 1 solved
17:22.42mindjujunutty
17:22.49mindjuju^5
17:23.09Justin__Drupal still says Your web server does not appear to support any common PDO database extensions. Check with your hosting provider to see if they support PDO (PHP Data Objects) and offer any databases that Drupal supports.
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18:09.16mgearyJustin__: not to beat a dead horse, but i'm curious why you don't just set up whatever app this is on a Rackspace/Linode/whatever machine and have done with it.
18:10.42Justin__the current website is set up on a windows server
18:11.00Justin__and since my time here is limited to 4 years
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18:11.23Justin__and since linux may not be known by those that follow me
18:11.51Justin__windows is what our network admin requested
18:12.13Justin__but i am very close to going linux anywyas
18:12.38mgearywell jeeze, anything can happen in 4 years
18:12.46mgearyi wouldn't make decisions based on that
18:13.32Justin__lol
18:14.44DexterTheDragonwon't everything be in the cloud in 4 years?
18:14.55xtrementlnot my data
18:15.07Justin__probably not at this university
18:15.19Justin__they are very particular about their information
18:15.51mgearybut data is generally very portable
18:15.57mgearyat least, well-designed data is
18:17.39Justin__i still have been messing with things and now i can't see my phpinfo(), i think it got turned off in the php.ini file, where do I fix that?
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18:25.55fridgesmI didn't know you could turn it off
18:35.27mindjujusame
18:35.39mindjujui think it's more likely that php has been disabled than phpinfo disabled
18:35.43Justin__disable_functions = phpinfo()
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18:35.50mindjujuhonest?
18:35.55mindjujulearn something new
18:35.56mindjujuwow
18:36.21jsmithmindjuju: What, you've never used that before?
18:36.34jsmithmindjuju: It's especially useful if you put it in php.ini.d/
18:36.45jsmithmindjuju: Makes for some great practical jokes :-)
18:36.53DexterTheDragonand do disable_functions = array()
18:37.01mindjuju:)
18:37.03jsmithDexterTheDragon: You got it :-)
18:37.36DexterTheDragondevelopers fault really for expecting array to be there
18:41.03mgearyhah
18:43.54mindjujuDtD
18:44.11mindjujuthis is the whole thing!  3hrs of that link from last night
18:44.12mindjujuhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011pstb/MistaJam_BBC_Philharmonic_Presents...Nero_Symphony_2808/
18:44.45DexterTheDragonmindjuju: I started listening to it, but it seems like it's 3 hours of just dubstep and they play the 18min Nero piece somewhere in it
18:44.58mindjujuoh really?
18:45.08mindjujubummer, he was going some where awesome with that 18 min bit
18:45.14DexterTheDragonyeah they were playing skrillex and stuff at the beginning
18:45.43mindjujui <3 dubstep
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18:49.10DexterTheDragonI <3 good dubstep
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19:31.56influxls
19:32.20DexterTheDragonls: cannot access #uphpu: No such file or directory
19:34.08herlowell, duh!
19:34.10herlo:)
19:34.31herloDexterTheDragon: but what it should really do is a /list
19:34.36herloor rather /who
19:35.01DexterTheDragonI think it should do /names
19:35.07DexterTheDragonbut I didn't want to spam the channel
19:35.56DexterTheDragonherlo: /who would ll :)
19:36.20herloDexterTheDragon: but that's just an alias for ls -l
19:36.36herloso now we can introduce switches :)
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19:40.28NoCoolName_TomI'm glad to see I'm not the only one who types things like ls, exit, or :w into a chat area.
19:40.49herlolol, everyone does it
19:42.16mgeary~wws
19:42.16ibotwws is probably "Wrong Window Syndrome", something especially challenging for carmony
19:42.30carmonyrofl, hey!
19:43.50carmonyrm -rf /home/mgeary
19:44.01mgearyhah, i'm on a Mac, so that's the wrong path
19:44.04mgearyso there!
19:44.23carmonysudo rm -rf /Users/mgeary
19:46.10mgearydrat
19:47.25carmonyI love how under the hood of my Mac OS there is a unix based OS :P
19:49.03mgearyMacOS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than making Windows not suck
19:49.55carmonylol, I like that :)
19:51.01mgearyi'm paraphrasing, but it's not originally my work
19:52.11josephscottApple - the largest Unix vendor of all time
19:52.13influx~mgeary++
19:52.31influxDid AT&T ever vend Unix?
19:52.47influxJust curious.
19:53.20josephscottyes, they created it
19:53.43josephscottfor universities and the like they made it available for cheap
19:56.41influxI was aware that they were the creators, but I didn't read into whether they had licensed for use outside of AT&T.
19:56.51influxVery cool though.
19:57.45influxI do realize it wouldn't be where it is today, on some level, if it hadn't been for that.
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19:58.53josephscottAT&T at the time had some legal limitations
19:59.32josephscottthey were basically required to license any non-telephone tech
20:00.28josephscottthe wikipedia page does a reasonable job of explaining the story - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
20:01.01josephscottI still kick myself that I didn't buy a copy of this book when I had the chance back in the late 90s - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions%27_Commentary_on_UNIX_6th_Edition,_with_Source_Code
20:02.27mgeary~kick josephscott
20:02.27ibotACTION kicks josephscott
20:02.46josephscottthanks :-)
20:14.36influxheh
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20:29.10mindjujuapparently, steve jobs has admited to wanting to take over the world by announcing the construction of the Apple Lair! - http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_localsfo/20110608/ts_yblog_localsfo/steve-jobs-makes-surprise-presentation-on-new-hi-tech-apple-headquarters
20:29.26mindjujuputs the guy from the Spy who Loved me to shame
20:33.26mgearywhat the heck kind of sentence is this: "He wants to add apricot orchards like the ones he recalls growing up with nearby" ??
20:33.30mgearyjeeze
20:33.47mindjuju:)
20:34.08jsmithmgeary: An awful one?
20:36.08mgearyall your base are belong to us
20:36.26jsmithall your orchard are belong to memories?!?
20:36.36mgearyhah. nice
20:37.26josephscottis it really that hard to parse?
20:37.41jsmithNo, not hard to parse -- just poorly constructed
20:37.48mgearyit's not hard to parse, but if you consider that's from an apparent journalist...
20:39.05skinner$lart journalists
20:39.05raifbotwhips out a sword and chops journalists in half.
20:39.12josephscottI could see how it would be easy to pick on someone like that
20:39.27josephscottthen again, journalists probably think the same thing of coders who don't write perfect code
20:39.51mgearyjournalists probably generally don't know perfect code from their thumb
20:39.54mgearys
20:40.14josephscottI mean if they are supposed to be a programmer, how in the world could they ever write a bug?
20:41.12influxEnglish is a living language, maaaaaaan.
20:41.30josephscottmy point was simply that even people deal with language for a living are still able to make mistakes
20:41.43mindjujuhmm, that's what editors are for
20:41.55influxEditors are MS Bob incarnate.
20:41.56mindjujuyou have several layers of editors to catch this
20:42.02josephscottah, the editors are the ones who aren't allowed to ever make a mistake ;-)
20:42.03influxClippy, I meant.
20:42.03mindjujucopy editors, department editors
20:42.18mindjujuyou're really taking this personal, huh?
20:43.09influxWho?
20:44.32mindjujuthis article hardly has the complexity that a web app would have, doesn't really rely on frameworks, etc
20:44.41mindjujubug != poor english
20:44.49josephscotthmmm, personal perhaps in the context that I'd like people to not be too harsh when I haven't done my job 100% perfect, may as well extend that benefit to others
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20:46.17mindjujui think you're right on that, but there is no doubt, the art of journalism has been lost to quick blurbs that are churned out, hardly proofed, hardly verified and disseminated in mass at light speed
20:46.57mindjujufor crying out loud, this is an AP writer
20:47.07mindjujuwe're not talking Pulitzer prize winner
20:47.44josephscottThis http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_localsfo/20110608/ts_yblog_localsfo/steve-jobs-makes-surprise-presentation-on-new-hi-tech-apple-headquarters came from an AP writer?
20:47.57josephscottbyline says it came from this guy - http://www.linkedin.com/in/pvongs
20:48.08josephscottsorry, gal
20:48.21mindjujuoh sorry, yup, i'd already moved on to a story about some gamblers who took a casino for 11 million
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20:48.39mindjujuso did he win Pultzer prize?
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20:49.07josephscottdid they cheat?
20:49.12mindjujucheat?
20:50.31josephscottthe gamblers who took the casino for $11M
20:50.55josephscottif not it would be kind of funny for a casino to be mad just because they lost
20:52.36mindjujuoh srry, here is article
20:52.36mindjujuhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_casino_high_roller
20:53.13codazodaCounting cards is not "cheating" (at least legally speaking) but they will kick you out for it.
20:56.02josephscottlooks like they didn't kick him out, they invited one of the persons back
20:56.30codazodaYeah, I was speaking in generalities.  No evidence that he counted either.
20:58.07mindjujumakes for good marketing, i guess
20:58.21mindjujuyou too could win ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
20:58.30mindjujuala Dr. Evil
20:58.39mgearyas long as you have $1M to lose if you don't win...
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21:27.18josephscott$chuck-fact
21:27.18raifbotChuck Norris was in all 6 Star Wars movies............... As The Force.
21:28.23mgearywait, there were 6 Star Wars movies?
21:29.06maheliousi heard there were plans to make three more movies, but they never happened because everybody involved decided they sucked.
21:29.20mgearyinteresting
21:29.31mgearythat's a shame, really
21:30.00maheliousi always thought matrix deserved a sequel too.  shame they never made any more of those movies.
21:30.29mgearyyeah, that would have been really cool
21:30.31fridgesmYou guys must be in the parallel dimension where only good movies are made
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21:37.09maheliousits a wonderful place.  theater tickets are only $4 and uwe boll was exiled to hard labor in greenland.
21:38.56fridgesmIt's too bad that there are so few movies there, though
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21:48.26josephscottdid PLUG stop having meetings?
21:49.02fridgesmdon't they have one tonight?
21:50.01josephscottdon't know, it is on the calendar, but I don't see any announcement on their site for one
21:50.20fridgesmyeah, they haven't announced one since February
21:50.28fridgesmI usually can't go because of YM/YW
21:51.03fridgesmAsk on their mailing list, it'd be nice to have some on-topic discussion :)
22:25.25mindjuju~use micro on beandog undies
22:25.31mindjujuhmm
22:25.37mgearyhey fungus
22:25.41mindjuju~name beandog's underwear "undies"
22:25.43mgearycan you help me troubleshoot a DNS issue
22:25.50fridgesmTMI
22:25.53mindjuju~west
22:25.58mindjuju~look
22:25.58ibotI seeeeee it... http://master.debian.org/%7Evincent/xfree-3.3.3.1/...
22:26.08mindjuju~use undies in micro
22:26.09fungusmgeary, sure
22:26.21mindjujui miss zork sometimes
22:26.42mgearyfungus: kevinkaydds.com
22:27.14beandogmindjuju: that game drove me insane
22:27.16mgearyfungus: that's giving me nothing, though it's fine when i go through the authoritative
22:27.40mindjujuzork wasn't too bad, it was the infocom interpretation of hitchhikers guide to galaxy that was hard
22:27.52mindjujujust the part with the babel fish alone give me nightmares still
22:28.18skinnermgeary: 209.90.125.206?
22:28.35mgearyskinner: yes, but i'm getting nothing from 2 different locations
22:28.43fridgesm$ host kevinkaydds.com
22:28.43fridgesmkevinkaydds.com has address 209.90.125.206
22:28.43fridgesmkevinkaydds.com mail is handled by 0 sitemail.everyone.net.
22:28.43fridgesmkevinkaydds.com mail is handled by 10 sitemail2.everyone.net.
22:28.44skinnerya same here
22:29.06mgearyha ha. there we go
22:29.12mgearyhad XM clear their cache
22:29.16fungusyeah, werks fer me
22:29.28josephscott$host kevinkaydds.com
22:29.28raifbotjosephscott - host( 'kevinkaydds.com' ) : 209.90.125.206
22:29.44mgearyworking now
22:36.06herlojosephscott: $dig
22:36.28fungus~nslookup kevinkaydds.com
22:36.47josephscottno dig yet, but $host works for both directions
22:36.54josephscott$host 209.90.125.206
22:36.54raifbotjosephscott - host( '209.90.125.206' ) : user-206.pl107568.fiber.net
22:37.05josephscott$help
22:37.06raifbotjosephscott help is at http://raifbot.wordpress.com/
22:38.48skinnerfiber.net.....orly?
22:39.14mgearyskinner: yeah, colo at fibernet
22:39.29skinnernice
22:42.00herlofungus: nslookup is not dig
22:43.48josephscottyeah, one is a groper, the other isn't :-)
22:53.36fungusWhat is the best software based load balancer?  #lazyirc
22:54.25fridgesmI'm looking at the following:
22:54.25fridgesmhttp://varnish-cache.org/trac/wiki/Performance
22:54.25fridgesmhttp://trafficserver.apache.org/
22:55.35josephscottfor HTTP traffic?
22:55.35funguscool, thx for pointers
22:55.40fungusYup
22:56.18josephscottwe've had good luck with nginx for that, but there are others with different feature sets that might do well for you
22:56.51fungusall the session sharing will be handled at the backend using jboss. I just need a basic load balancer
22:57.08fungusnginx sounds cool too
22:57.30josephscotthaproxy is used in many places as well - http://haproxy.1wt.eu/
22:58.26fungusk, i'll start studying up.  thx
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