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| 00:59.06 | mahelious | sure, work days over and they all bail. quitters |
| 00:59.11 | mgeary | hey |
| 01:02.12 | mgeary | alright. NOW i'm bailing |
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| 04:09.19 | carmony | man, I'm never accidentally rolling something 95% done live again |
| 04:10.09 | josephscott | haha |
| 04:10.25 | josephscott | think of it as motivation to finish the last 5% |
| 04:11.50 | DexterTheDragon | release early, release often |
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| 04:27.56 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 04:27.57 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can finish Mario Bros without using the jump button |
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| 05:05.32 | xtrementl | hehe |
| 05:06.06 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 05:06.07 | raifbot | Chuck Norris knows where Carmen Sandiego is. |
| 05:08.19 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart xtrementl |
| 05:08.19 | ibot | stuffs xtrementl into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 05:08.55 | xtrementl | well that's the end of me :) |
| 05:09.13 | DexterTheDragon | atleast your well preserved |
| 05:10.27 | xtrementl | indeed |
| 05:10.35 | josephscott | ~preserve xtrementl |
| 05:14.06 | DexterTheDragon | xtrementl: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110506.gif |
| 05:14.40 | xtrementl | haha |
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| 15:18.47 | skinner | It's too quiet... |
| 15:18.49 | skinner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.28 | mindjuju | can anybody get the slug site to work? |
| 15:19.38 | herlo | sllug.org? |
| 15:19.42 | mindjuju | all i get is a bar on the left and a banner on the top, but none of the links work |
| 15:19.44 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 15:19.50 | herlo | mindjuju: works fine for me |
| 15:19.56 | mindjuju | in what browser? |
| 15:19.57 | herlo | there are two l's in sllug |
| 15:20.00 | herlo | ff4 |
| 15:20.09 | herlo | oh, no content though :) |
| 15:20.17 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 15:20.25 | mindjuju | click the links on the left, nothing populates |
| 15:20.45 | herlo | Call to undefined function: curl_init() in <b>/home/httpd/sllug/includes/blocks/php.php(51) |
| 15:21.01 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 15:21.03 | herlo | email marc |
| 15:21.36 | herlo | "Marc Christensen" <marc@sllug.org>, |
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| 15:26.00 | skinner | anyone heard of www.iapplicants.com? |
| 15:39.49 | mindjuju | srry, haven't |
| 15:40.25 | beandog | fungus: pingeh |
| 15:40.31 | beandog | can I write iptables rules on an ethernet alias? |
| 15:40.34 | beandog | eth0:1 |
| 15:41.02 | fungus | I don't know. Never thought to do that. |
| 15:41.07 | skinner | I have a friend that just started workin at www.iapplicants.com and asked me some questions related to writing some ajax stuff. |
| 15:41.16 | skinner | When I asked if he was using jquery....his response was: |
| 15:41.25 | skinner | No jQuery. The programmer here didn't want to use it cause the smallest jQuery plugin he could find was 79kb and his js file is 12kb. He wants to keep it as small as possible since it's going to be such a big db. |
| 15:41.39 | fungus | beandog, i suggest just using the base interface and use the IP address |
| 15:41.45 | skinner | Is it just me, or does that make no sense at all. |
| 15:41.58 | beandog | fungus: yah, can't change things around .. this is a client, with dns already pointing to that IP |
| 15:42.04 | beandog | fungus: how it got setup that way, I'm not all that sure. |
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| 15:42.27 | mgeary | "that don't make no sense!" |
| 15:42.35 | beandog | skinner: it doesnt make sense, on at least two levels |
| 15:42.54 | skinner | the size of the plugin and the reference to the 'big db' |
| 15:43.05 | skinner | it's just full of fail |
| 15:43.18 | beandog | fungus: oh, maybe I can fix it ... n/m, Ill tinker |
| 15:44.48 | fungus | The traffic still comes in on the base interface, so you can use that in your rules. |
| 15:45.20 | beandog | what do you m ean by base interface |
| 15:45.23 | fungus | -A INPUT -i eth0 -d <alias IP> -j REJECT |
| 15:45.25 | skinner | Hmm....the traffic...... |
| 15:45.27 | skinner | You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say... |
| 15:45.33 | beandog | heh |
| 15:45.58 | beandog | fungus: I get the feeling that iptables noob probably shouldn't tinker. |
| 15:47.17 | fungus | not on production systems, no. On dev/test systems, definitely |
| 15:48.01 | skinner | mgeary: I figured it was a quote. Seemed quote familiar, couldn't put my finger on it though |
| 15:48.09 | skinner | *quote = quite |
| 15:48.12 | mgeary | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-G0bkl8MQ |
| 15:48.28 | skinner | ah yes |
| 15:48.32 | skinner | love that show |
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| 15:50.27 | beandog | fungus: yah, production box |
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| 15:55.36 | fungus | beandog, another reason virtualbox/vmware is really awesome. Easy to build testing environments. |
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| 16:02.03 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 16:02.03 | raifbot | pushes the wall down onto fungus whilst whistling innocently. |
| 16:08.35 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: ping |
| 16:08.48 | fungus | DtD: pong |
| 16:08.57 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: wanna goto the movies with us tomorrow? |
| 16:09.09 | fungus | To see what? |
| 16:09.13 | DexterTheDragon | Thor |
| 16:09.15 | skinner | ~say ping raifbot |
| 16:09.15 | ibot | ping raifbot |
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| 16:09.19 | fungus | sure. sounds fun |
| 16:09.44 | DexterTheDragon | we're thinking 2:40 at the gateway |
| 16:09.58 | fungus | that works |
| 16:10.11 | mindjuju | which theater? |
| 16:10.32 | DexterTheDragon | ~rtfm mindjuju |
| 16:10.33 | ibot | ACTION tosses mindjuju a 50lb unix manual |
| 16:10.41 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: 10:09 <+DexterTheDragon> we're thinking 2:40 at the gateway |
| 16:10.47 | mindjuju | oh man |
| 16:10.51 | mindjuju | eye fail |
| 16:32.59 | mgeary | hey, on Amazon EC2 images, what's the difference between the various Root Devices? How does EBC differ from "instance-store" ? |
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| 17:11.36 | DexterTheDragon | ~apb beandog |
| 17:11.36 | ibot | ACTION calls Duane Lee to find beandog |
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| 17:24.27 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: I've reserved seats |
| 17:25.18 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: what day? |
| 17:25.25 | DexterTheDragon | tomorrow |
| 17:25.26 | herlo | oh, tomorrow |
| 17:25.34 | herlo | hmm, I might be able to make that... |
| 17:25.43 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: your welcome to come |
| 17:25.53 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: :) |
| 17:25.55 | josephscott | mgeary: instance store is local to the server, and isn't guaranteed to be around if the server dies |
| 17:26.11 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: Thor 2:40 @ the gateway |
| 17:26.29 | josephscott | EBS is remote "permanent" storage |
| 17:28.09 | josephscott | basically anything you want to keep around needs to be on EBS |
| 17:28.29 | josephscott | and even an image that boots from EBS still mounts the local instance storage, so you can still make use of it if needed |
| 17:29.03 | stderr- | http://www.flickr.com/photos/dataw0lf/5693603364/in/photostream/lightbox/ |
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| 18:54.20 | eggyknap | herlo: ping |
| 18:55.17 | herlo | eggyknap: pong |
| 18:55.40 | eggyknap | Silly question, as I've just (finally) read your "introducing Silver" email -- is there some reason DevCamps doens't work with Python decently? |
| 18:55.40 | herlo | eggyknap: actually headed out for a bit, can pong when I return... |
| 18:55.44 | eggyknap | np :) |
| 18:55.56 | herlo | eggyknap: oh, it's a complete rewrite *in* python |
| 18:56.19 | herlo | devcamps isn't a bad thing, I am just not familiar with it and the command line tools it used were all over the place |
| 18:56.21 | eggyknap | We do a fair number of django camps and things with DevCamps already, fwiw. |
| 18:56.25 | eggyknap | Fair enough :) |
| 18:56.57 | herlo | eggyknap: again, it's not about the functionality, it's about the way it was written. there are other design decisions Silver does differently too |
| 18:57.17 | eggyknap | Sure, I figured. |
| 18:57.27 | herlo | eggyknap: like for instance, devcamps provides a full instance of a web server per camp, silver does just one with symlinked vhosts |
| 18:58.11 | eggyknap | All this time I've been thinking I need to (finally) figure out our camps stuff, and now you give me more options!! Arrgh! :) |
| 18:58.17 | herlo | eggyknap: I would love to chat more about it later on, if you have time. |
| 18:58.33 | herlo | should be back in an hour or so, just running out for lunch |
| 18:58.36 | eggyknap | Sure, I'd like that. And I don't want to prevent you from taking off :) |
| 18:58.42 | eggyknap | Mm... good idea. Enjoy :) |
| 18:58.44 | herlo | :P sounds good |
| 18:58.47 | herlo | enjoy your lunch too |
| 18:58.49 | herlo | ttfn |
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| 21:13.19 | herlo | eggyknap: I'm back |
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| 21:14.16 | eggyknap | O HAI... nice lunch? |
| 21:14.48 | herlo | yeah, Pat's |
| 21:14.53 | herlo | mmm BBQ |
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| 21:16.31 | herlo | eggyknap: I'll be available and if you want to sign up for the group list, that can help grow your knowledge |
| 21:16.38 | herlo | http://groups.google.com/silver-project/ |
| 21:16.52 | herlo | oops http://groups.google.com/group/silver-project/ |
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| 21:18.16 | eggyknap | I'd have found it, anyway :) |
| 21:18.26 | herlo | I'm sure |
| 21:18.49 | herlo | I plan to start talking about it tonight/tomorrow after I rebuild my machine again <stupid smartd errors> |
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| 21:22.21 | mindjuju | VERY funny video sterotypes - http://digg.com/news/offbeat/kung_fooled_vid |
| 21:24.18 | stderr- | freddiew++, digg-- |
| 21:28.04 | stderr- | mindjuju: if you like that, you'll like his other videos http://www.youtube.com/user/freddiew#p/c/32/NYGlWjIKoY4 |
| 21:30.14 | mindjuju | i'm going to have to check out more on that chan, that's good stuff |
| 21:30.33 | stderr- | yea, he does all the FX. Flower Warfare is amazing too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031Dshcnso4&annotation_id=annotation_212013&feature=iv |
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| 22:02.51 | ninnypants | has anyone here built a navigation similar to the one at http://crushlovely.com ? |
| 22:09.44 | beandog | anyone use shorewall? |
| 22:09.48 | beandog | im debating using it. |
| 22:11.53 | cro | beandog |
| 22:11.57 | cro | funny you ask |
| 22:12.02 | cro | yes, I do |
| 22:12.05 | cro | simple config though |
| 22:12.16 | beandog | yah? its the config that throws me for a loop. specifically, the zones. |
| 22:12.22 | beandog | I still don't understand what the "fw" zone is. |
| 22:12.26 | beandog | is it just that box? |
| 22:12.39 | beandog | or like everyone going through that box |
| 22:13.27 | cro | let me look at my config |
| 22:13.39 | beandog | cro: dont worry about it, Im just rambling |
| 22:13.45 | beandog | I dunno if Im gonna use it or not |
| 22:14.00 | cro | ah, right |
| 22:14.03 | cro | fw is the box itself |
| 22:14.33 | cro | and actually I don't have fw in any of the other config files |
| 22:15.09 | cro | except "policy" |
| 22:15.44 | beandog | okay |
| 22:16.09 | beandog | it looked to me like in the sample config for two-interfaces, that the fw box itself can't even get on the internet |
| 22:17.02 | cro | that might be true |
| 22:17.07 | cro | My config is a little odd |
| 22:17.14 | cro | because I have openvpn on the router/fw box |
| 22:17.30 | cro | and I use the tap interface so my internal network is bridged to the vpn |
| 22:17.35 | beandog | openvpn is my next stop |
| 22:18.00 | cro | pm me your email and I'll zip up my config and send the files to you |
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| 23:00.13 | skinner | When will the weekend come? |
| 23:00.17 | skinner | You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say... |
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| 23:03.24 | beandog | ~flood skinner |
| 23:03.24 | ibot | ACTION blasts skinner with a huge firehose then strangles skinner with it |
| 23:04.14 | skinner | Man, it's true.....when someone is about to blast you with a firehose.... |
| 23:04.22 | skinner | You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall... |
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| 23:28.13 | mgeary | ~skinner skinner |
| 23:28.13 | ibot | ACTION buries skinner in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
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| 23:42.21 | ninnypants | if(e.t < w.b && e.b > w.t) |
| 23:42.28 | ninnypants | makes me feel retarded... |
| 23:43.26 | herlo | the reason one word objects and members are not so good |
| 23:43.36 | herlo | s/the/one/ |
| 23:44.21 | beandog | herlo: huh? |
| 23:45.10 | ninnypants | oh I just did that cause the objects have about 3 lines of life |
| 23:46.50 | ninnypants | it's more that I had something really convoluted before. At least 6 < or > statements and the thing didn't work then I looked and realized I just needed two |
| 23:50.48 | beandog | google just changed the look of their search results |
