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| 03:10.12 | Heartsbane | herlo: ping |
| 03:12.26 | herlo | Heartsbane: wut? |
| 03:13.15 | Heartsbane | lol |
| 03:13.36 | herlo | Heartsbane: thought you'd enjoy that |
| 03:14.00 | Heartsbane | you know a good Fedora Tutorial for making a Fedora bootable thumb drive? |
| 03:14.06 | herlo | Heartsbane: yes |
| 03:14.31 | Heartsbane | I thought you might |
| 03:14.48 | herlo | Heartsbane: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB |
| 03:15.21 | Heartsbane | hehehe thanx |
| 03:15.28 | herlo | Heartsbane: or, you can use https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ |
| 03:15.48 | herlo | it's python so it should be something like |
| 03:15.51 | herlo | sudo python setup.py install |
| 03:15.54 | herlo | and it works |
| 03:15.59 | herlo | but I've not tried it on Ubuntu |
| 03:16.05 | herlo | or whatever you use that isn't Fedora |
| 03:16.07 | herlo | :) |
| 03:16.13 | Heartsbane | nah I am going to do it on my netbook |
| 03:16.34 | herlo | Heartsbane: liveusb-creator is Fedora? |
| 03:16.48 | herlo | s/liveusb-creator/netbook/ |
| 03:16.54 | Heartsbane | ya |
| 03:17.06 | Heartsbane | I have 2 fedora machines |
| 03:17.09 | herlo | that's the one we did at SCaLE? |
| 03:17.15 | Heartsbane | ya |
| 03:17.17 | herlo | Heartsbane: cool |
| 03:17.36 | Heartsbane | my X31 and my HP 110 are Fedora |
| 03:17.49 | herlo | sudo "yum install liveusb-creator" and you are off |
| 03:18.12 | herlo | Heartsbane: njoy |
| 03:19.07 | Heartsbane | and for something PHP related.... customer support should be shot for complaining that I changed a mediawiki URL from /mw/ to /mediawiki/ on the intraweb |
| 03:19.14 | Heartsbane | shot IN THE FACE |
| 03:19.22 | Heartsbane | k thx |
| 03:19.26 | herlo | heh |
| 03:19.40 | herlo | Heartsbane: 301 redirects are your friend |
| 03:19.50 | Heartsbane | i guess |
| 03:20.04 | Heartsbane | what a bunch of cry babies |
| 03:21.03 | herlo | Heartsbane: yeah, just easier to avoid it, though |
| 03:21.36 | herlo | developers/customer support are usually whiny like that because it affect their job (albeit minor) |
| 03:21.52 | herlo | change is the nature of the ops group, but others don't want that change |
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| 03:28.54 | herlo | my goal when I worked at Backcountry, and even now, is to avoid hearing about issues from *users*. Thus, my lazy efficiency is focused on minimizing issues that affect my *users*. |
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| 03:55.13 | rapid_dave | http://pastebin.com/ETLb8niE |
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| 04:35.32 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 04:35.32 | raifbot | Chuck Norriss' calandar goes from march 31st to april 2nd cause nobody fools Chuck Norris |
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| 05:26.41 | herlo | raifbot: calendar |
| 05:33.46 | ninnypants | evening herlo |
| 05:34.11 | herlo | ninnypants: hey |
| 05:34.32 | ninnypants | how goes |
| 05:35.06 | herlo | it's going, just got freeipa installed and running for our new Linux distro |
| 05:38.33 | herlo | ninnypants: I also think my HDD is dying |
| 05:38.36 | ninnypants | herlo: nice |
| 05:38.55 | ninnypants | how's pycamps coming? |
| 05:39.11 | herlo | but it looks like I'm gonna get a new 750GB 7200RPM 3.0Gb/s drive for 109 + 4.99 shipping :) |
| 05:39.28 | herlo | ninnypants: pycamps is solid and at v0.2, I'm about to rename it to Silver |
| 05:39.36 | herlo | probably do that after the wedding/honeymoon |
| 05:39.41 | ninnypants | oh why silver? |
| 05:40.43 | herlo | ninnypants: my company is purple *atom* |
| 05:40.53 | herlo | silver is an element on the periodic table |
| 05:41.09 | herlo | I could have named it hydorgen |
| 05:41.19 | herlo | or helium, but I thought silver was more applicable |
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| 05:43.19 | herlo | ninnypants: anyway, Silver is a great name and I have a lot to do for v0.3, but I don't think it'll move anywhere until June, at the earliest |
| 05:43.31 | herlo | ninnypants: how are things with you, any exciting projects? |
| 05:45.16 | ninnypants | herlo: working on that RFID thing hopefully |
| 05:45.26 | herlo | ninnypants: oh, that's right |
| 05:45.30 | herlo | what's that for? Animal stuff? |
| 05:45.46 | herlo | sounds pretty awesome either way |
| 05:45.47 | ninnypants | want to build a reader that connects through the audio jack or something |
| 05:46.15 | ninnypants | yeah I want to build the prototype and a android app for it |
| 05:46.45 | ninnypants | cheap as possible to distribute so that lots of people can get it |
| 05:47.25 | herlo | the audio jack on an android can do tons! |
| 05:47.26 | ninnypants | app will scan the pet's chip and post it to a website that pings the owner with there area and time that it was found nearby shelters and whatnot |
| 05:47.47 | herlo | I have this credit card reading device that uses the audio input. Neat! |
| 05:47.52 | ninnypants | herlo: yeah I'm hoping the iPhone's jack can do the same |
| 05:48.04 | tierra | last I checked, 1.5TB 7200RPM 3Gb/s drives were $70 brand new... $115 doesn't sound like that great of a deal for 750GB |
| 05:48.14 | herlo | ninnypants: I'm sure it can, android and iphone are similarly capable |
| 05:48.25 | herlo | ninnypants: ahh, yes. I am guessing that's where you got the idea? |
| 05:48.47 | herlo | tierra: on what site? |
| 05:48.56 | ninnypants | somewhat it was actually someone from #utos that gave me the idea |
| 05:49.03 | herlo | tierra: note, this is for a laptop, not a PC |
| 05:49.04 | tierra | newegg |
| 05:49.12 | tierra | oh, 2.5" |
| 05:49.15 | herlo | tierra: yeah, not even on newegg, just bought one there |
| 05:49.17 | herlo | :) |
| 05:49.33 | herlo | $115 is with tax and everything. should have it by friday |
| 05:49.44 | ninnypants | can't remember his name short guy had kidney surgery recently and lives in lehi |
| 05:49.45 | herlo | pretty decent methinks |
| 05:49.50 | herlo | ninnypants: Nafai |
| 05:50.07 | herlo | ninnypants: Travis Hartwell |
| 05:50.30 | herlo | ninnypants: glad people on #utos are helpful |
| 05:51.23 | ninnypants | herlo: yeah I told him about it over the weekend |
| 05:51.34 | ninnypants | he was at super adoption and we chatted for a bit |
| 05:51.36 | tierra | I did actually just buy one of those Seagate GoFlex 1.5TB 2.5" externals for $120 a couple months ago, but I was watching for that deal for months |
| 05:52.31 | tierra | (they're $150 right now) |
| 05:52.51 | herlo | ninnypants: yeah, saw that |
| 05:53.25 | herlo | tierra: indeed. I have a 500GB WD MyBook from a few years ago, haven't needed much else so far |
| 05:53.41 | ninnypants | herlo: yah now I just need to figure out the hardware |
| 05:53.50 | herlo | I also have a 2TB RAID fileserver at home and now that I have my OpenVPN setup, w00t! |
| 05:54.04 | herlo | ninnypants: that's always the cost, R&D |
| 05:54.15 | ninnypants | android dev should be easy enough shouldn't be too hard to pick up a language |
| 05:54.55 | herlo | ninnypants: yeah, lots of good tutorials these days |
| 05:55.25 | ninnypants | herlo: yeah hopefully it pays off trying to do it to be sold as cheap as possible |
| 05:55.45 | ninnypants | so not sure how the payoff will be for me or if it'l even catch on |
| 05:55.54 | herlo | ninnypants: probably with like $1k R&D you'd be able to pull it off for sure |
| 05:56.03 | herlo | just get a donor from one of the pet adoption days |
| 05:56.04 | herlo | :) |
| 05:56.45 | ninnypants | that's what I'm thinking I'll do if I end up getting it done |
| 05:57.16 | ninnypants | I'll contact one of the big rescues and see if they want to fund manufacturing for a cut or something |
| 06:01.07 | herlo | ninnypants: oh, i was thinking to for the R&D |
| 06:01.16 | herlo | like before you get someone to manufacture it |
| 06:01.30 | herlo | just get someone to invest $1k or so to have you build a basic prototype |
| 06:01.47 | herlo | get something like arduino for proof of concept |
| 06:02.37 | herlo | then, go to one of the bigger groups and sell the idea. Let them fund it and pay for the prototyping and such. Just make sure you own the rights to the patent :) |
| 06:04.08 | ninnypants | herlo: good idea |
| 06:05.19 | ninnypants | only thing I worry about is if I take some else's money I'll have a more strict schedule to get it done, but I'm not sure I can handle too work on it a ton right now |
| 06:05.54 | ninnypants | Thinking I can get most the parts decently cheap the only thing I'm not sure of is the actual reader unit no one seems to show a price |
| 06:06.38 | herlo | ninnypants: for $1k, you can pretty much make your own pace |
| 06:07.16 | herlo | I would think that they'd just want to see something in like a year or so |
| 06:07.33 | herlo | for the larger sums, yeah, I can see them wanting a faster pace |
| 06:10.47 | ninnypants | herlo: true |
| 06:11.59 | ninnypants | I'm going to check out hardware here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Electronics+near+Provo,+UT&aq=0&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.547176,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=Electronics&hnear=Provo,+Utah&ll=40.234984,-111.654739&spn=0.063689,0.154324&z=13&iwloc=A |
| 06:12.14 | ninnypants | then I'll decide what to do |
| 06:13.12 | ninnypants | I was supposed to get an actual scanner with a broken antenna that I could play with but the guy forgot to bring it |
| 06:14.15 | ninnypants | the only thing I'm worried will be an issue is power consumption and whether or not enough power can go through the audio jack to power the device |
| 06:21.06 | herlo | ~tinyurl ninnypants |
| 06:21.06 | ibot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=ninnypants' and laughs maniacally! |
| 06:21.27 | herlo | ninnypants: power consumption could be an issue |
| 06:21.50 | herlo | anyway, I'm off to bed, nn |
| 06:22.23 | ninnypants | yeah guess I could run it off a battery but if it plugs in I figure it should run of the power available to it from the phone or there's no point in not using bluetooth |
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| 15:11.45 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 15:11.45 | raifbot | puts influx through a wood chipper. |
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| 15:12.43 | herlo | lol |
| 15:15.14 | josephscott | ~say $mindtrick influx |
| 15:15.14 | ibot | $mindtrick influx |
| 15:15.15 | raifbot | influx move along. |
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| 15:20.10 | influx | :) |
| 15:22.59 | josephscott | it is ok to Google to be evil because android is open source right? http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/02/verizons-removal-tethering-apps-android-market-shame-fcc-violation/ |
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| 15:27.33 | herlo | josephscott: it sounds more like the left hand doesn't remember what the right hand said |
| 15:28.20 | josephscott | google removing apps from the store at the behest of mobile vendors, sounds totally open to me ;-) |
| 15:28.29 | josephscott | well, should say limiting, not removing |
| 15:28.42 | herlo | josephscott: heh, I don't disagree |
| 15:29.13 | herlo | it just sounds like they forgot what they said a few years back. Probably different management or a different group altogether... |
| 15:29.23 | herlo | not saying that google shouldn't shape up |
| 15:29.34 | josephscott | forgot in what way? |
| 15:29.44 | josephscott | like a couple of years ago when they did the same thing with skype? |
| 15:30.33 | herlo | forgot like I said |
| 15:31.22 | herlo | different groups, or different management. It's not infeasible to imagine that a large corporation might not know every detail of what's going on in *every* department. |
| 15:32.10 | DexterTheDragon | more like google realized pissing of the hardware vendors made doing business difficult |
| 15:32.18 | DexterTheDragon | s/of/off/ |
| 15:32.21 | josephscott | true, but it is reasonable to assume that someone with the power to limit apps in the store based on the whims of the carrier would know the guiding principles of the product |
| 15:32.35 | josephscott | besides, why even have that ability at all in the store? |
| 15:33.31 | herlo | josephscott: to limit apps? |
| 15:33.42 | josephscott | to limit apps based on carrier |
| 15:34.03 | josephscott | doesn't having that ability go against the claimed completely open nature? |
| 15:34.11 | herlo | josephscott: oh, well I can see a reason for limiting apps based upon a filter. A carrier is just one of those types of filter |
| 15:34.21 | DexterTheDragon | I think its originally there to limit promotional apps to verizon |
| 15:35.26 | herlo | I don't know, it isn't like all apps are created equal. I'm sure that the android market doesn't allow certain apps due to laws in particular countries. As a filter, I don't really see how that's different. |
| 15:35.48 | herlo | I do agree that carriers shouldn't be assholes and that google shouldn't be consorting with them in such a filter. |
| 15:38.23 | josephscott | I think that ship sailed a long time ago |
| 15:39.06 | herlo | so why are we discussing this, exactly? Just to rehash the past? |
| 15:39.12 | herlo | not that it isn't useful |
| 15:40.10 | josephscott | to point out google/android is hardly the open panacea of the mobile world - and that being open source hasn't stopped google for being bad/evil with their new found power |
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| 15:59.42 | skinner | has anyone here written a jquery plugin before? |
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| 16:30.39 | beandog | josephscott: meh, I blame carriers. |
| 16:30.54 | beandog | They're the ones that think that new technology is going to destroy their revenue streams. |
| 16:31.20 | josephscott | they are probably right, at least current/historical revenue streams |
| 16:31.29 | jsmith | Amen! |
| 16:31.33 | beandog | cell phones are quickly becoming a commodity |
| 16:31.39 | jsmith | business models are made to be broken! |
| 16:31.41 | beandog | kind of like movies are, with things like netflix |
| 16:31.49 | beandog | jsmith: ^5 |
| 16:32.07 | beandog | used to be a big deal to go see a movie, now with thousands you can watch, it's not such a big deal anymore. |
| 16:33.25 | fungus | The carriers are the source of the drive to block those apps, but it is Google that gave in to their "open" and "don't be evil" ideals in order to appease the carriers. |
| 16:33.29 | fungus | I blame Google. |
| 16:33.57 | beandog | fungus: I suppose, but I imagine it was a business decision where they'd rather have their stuff on the market than stay in line with the principles |
| 16:34.05 | josephscott | time to got lart someone over at the HTML5 w3c working group - http://www.webmonkey.com/2011/05/jquery-update-improves-html5-data-tools/ |
| 16:34.24 | beandog | fungus: google phones, as-is, are still way better than what our options were a few years ago. |
| 16:34.27 | josephscott | beandog: I think that is the point fungus is making |
| 16:34.33 | beandog | fungus: but I agree, slippery slope and all. |
| 16:34.38 | beandog | kind of like how google blocks searches on 'torrent' |
| 16:34.43 | beandog | er, I'm sorry, blocks autocomplete. |
| 16:34.46 | fungus | beandog, it definitely was a business decision, and not an idealogical one. |
| 16:34.49 | josephscott | principles aren't really principles if you routinely through them out the window |
| 16:34.53 | beandog | fungus: gotcha. |
| 16:35.13 | beandog | well you can always root your phone, can't you? and give the finger to carriers. |
| 16:35.19 | beandog | or not use google market |
| 16:35.26 | beandog | it's not like they're blacklisting certain apps from running |
| 16:35.30 | beandog | (or are they)? |
| 16:35.39 | fungus | Sad part though, is that some Google business units do go toe-to-toe one some idealogical issues. Like WebM, etc. |
| 16:35.53 | beandog | fungus: webm? |
| 16:36.00 | beandog | fungus: what does webm have to do with anything |
| 16:37.15 | fungus | it's purpose is an example of Google pursuing ideals in the face of business decisions |
| 16:37.58 | fungus | and beandog, you cannot always root your phone. There are many manufacturers trying their best to kill your phone if you attempt to root it. |
| 16:38.23 | beandog | fungus: yah? news to me... Im not much of a phone freak. |
| 16:38.27 | herlo | webm is awesome, it's now the default format when recording your desktop in GNOME3 |
| 16:38.56 | beandog | I havent been following webm too much either |
| 16:38.59 | beandog | as a codec, vp8 is meh. |
| 16:39.04 | beandog | h264 = winnah |
| 16:39.07 | fungus | My point is Google sometimes takes the high road to promote open-ness and Freedom, but other times, just wants to make money. |
| 16:39.12 | beandog | but webm as Matroska is *awesome* |
| 16:39.24 | beandog | fungus: agreed, they seem a bit conflicted. |
| 16:39.45 | fungus | But I think we can all say that Cellular carriers are always evil. |
| 16:39.56 | beandog | agreed. |
| 16:40.02 | beandog | or just phone carriers, period. |
| 16:40.27 | josephscott | heads up for slice host fans - http://thenextweb.com/dd/2011/05/03/rackspace-to-shut-down-slicehost/ |
| 16:40.32 | beandog | let's go knock over a 7-11 |
| 16:40.34 | mindjuju | there is WAY to much agreeing around here, i want to see some bar fighting |
| 16:40.41 | mindjuju | with borken bottles and slashes |
| 16:40.48 | beandog | this isn't #utah |
| 16:40.55 | mgeary | did someone ask for some discord? |
| 16:41.06 | josephscott | $lart discord |
| 16:41.06 | raifbot | crushes discord with a full height scsi disk. |
| 16:41.27 | skinner | ~lart #utah |
| 16:41.27 | ibot | holds #utah to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 16:41.27 | mgeary | i've used Rackspace for a year or so now, but haven't even heard of slicehost, iirc |
| 16:42.22 | beandog | okay |
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| 16:42.26 | beandog | I'm giving Fedora a spin this morning |
| 16:42.45 | fungus | you trying the Beta? |
| 16:42.51 | beandog | I'm trying to find an alternative distro to deploy a LAMP stack on |
| 16:43.00 | beandog | So far, CentOS is good enough for me. |
| 16:43.00 | fungus | oh, server, not desktop. |
| 16:43.45 | mindjuju | centos seems to be quite good, but i'm not liking the old timey software it ships with |
| 16:43.49 | beandog | er, do people even use fedora on servers? or is this a desktop distro |
| 16:43.59 | mindjuju | PHP 1.1, MySQL 2.0 |
| 16:44.03 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: its a desktop |
| 16:44.04 | mgeary | mindjuju: amen |
| 16:44.09 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: is it? |
| 16:44.09 | mindjuju | it practically feels that way |
| 16:44.15 | fungus | Yes fedora is used on servers, but it more often used as a dekstop |
| 16:44.17 | beandog | mindjuju: whut? mine has php-5.3.3 |
| 16:44.28 | mindjuju | k, i was exaggerating a little |
| 16:44.30 | beandog | and mysql 5.0.77 |
| 16:44.33 | mindjuju | but not by much! |
| 16:44.38 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:44.39 | beandog | I'd like mysql 5.1, but PHP is up to speed |
| 16:44.41 | beandog | mostly |
| 16:44.41 | mgeary | python 2.4... |
| 16:44.57 | beandog | well I guess I'll skip Fedora then. What about Ubuntu? |
| 16:45.00 | beandog | Is that a reasonable server distro |
| 16:45.02 | fungus | CentOS does certainly seem old timey. But that's mostly due to their tracking RHEL, and not even tracking it very fast either. |
| 16:45.15 | fungus | ubuntu is a fantastic server distro |
| 16:45.19 | mindjuju | ubuntu servers are the new hawtness |
| 16:45.25 | beandog | do I need to download any special version |
| 16:45.31 | beandog | I grabbed the latest LTS |
| 16:45.32 | fungus | Server edition |
| 16:45.40 | beandog | ok |
| 16:46.07 | beandog | oh, two editions. Cool. |
| 16:46.07 | beandog | fungus: thx mon |
| 16:46.40 | mindjuju | i setup my family fileserver on ubuntu 8.04 desktop several years ago, when the hdd failed i put it on 10.10 server, setup samba with no gui -OH YEAH! |
| 16:46.41 | beandog | you guys got anything else I should try out |
| 16:46.45 | beandog | whata bout suse |
| 16:46.46 | mindjuju | squid gun! oh yeah! |
| 16:47.19 | mindjuju | ...sigh... no despicable me fans in the house |
| 16:47.26 | mindjuju | y'all are missing out |
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| 16:47.34 | beandog | that movie was dumb. |
| 16:47.40 | wps | anyone available to do a big favor for me? |
| 16:47.46 | mgeary | mindjuju: why are you wearing pajamas? |
| 16:47.47 | skinner | I kinda liked megamind better |
| 16:47.51 | wps | http://www.vivintmail.com/tornado.php |
| 16:48.01 | wps | people are telling me that this download links on that page don't work |
| 16:48.05 | mindjuju | they're not pajamas! it's a jogging suit! |
| 16:48.11 | beandog | wps: 507 mb, wtc |
| 16:48.17 | wps | would you mind clicking that and seeing if a .mov file starts downloading? |
| 16:48.30 | beandog | works in chrome. |
| 16:48.35 | wps | (someone at work try that doesn't pay for their bandwidth :) ) |
| 16:48.35 | beandog | on linux |
| 16:49.03 | skinner | works in firefox + chome on win7 |
| 16:49.41 | mindjuju | works in IE 8 over here |
| 16:53.16 | mindjuju | so beandog, about despicable me, what didn't you like? i ddn't see megamind, haven't had a chance, but i heard if you've seen Dr. Horrible, you've seen megamind |
| 16:53.28 | beandog | mindjuju: I havent seen either one |
| 16:53.30 | mgeary | i liked both movies |
| 16:53.40 | mgeary | but i do think Megamind was a bit better |
| 16:54.36 | skinner | I'm not sure I could agree that Dr. Horrible is close to Begamind |
| 16:54.39 | skinner | *megamind |
| 16:54.46 | skinner | I like both though |
| 16:54.54 | ninnypants | mindjuju: megamind isn't like dr dorrible |
| 16:54.58 | mindjuju | no? |
| 16:55.01 | skinner | Megamind > dr horrible |
| 16:55.18 | skinner | It's all about presentation |
| 16:55.20 | skinner | " " |
| 16:55.21 | ninnypants | guess it's a similar story but not very |
| 16:55.36 | mindjuju | the bad guy is the main character and has characteristics that make you like them more, and the good guy is the punk? |
| 16:55.46 | mindjuju | classic anti-hero plot #5 ? |
| 16:56.00 | skinner | Good guy isn't....really......a punk in megamind tho |
| 16:56.08 | mindjuju | ah |
| 16:56.18 | ninnypants | yeah he's not a dick like captain hammer |
| 16:56.28 | ninnypants | turns out he's pretty funny |
| 16:56.42 | mindjuju | :) love cap hammer |
| 16:56.58 | mindjuju | i think we own megamind actually, i just need to allocate some time to see it |
| 16:57.01 | ninnypants | yeah he was awesome |
| 16:57.32 | wps | thanks for testing that, guys |
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| 17:03.02 | skinner | orly? |
| 17:03.12 | mgeary | rly |
| 17:03.22 | skinner | what company? |
| 17:04.00 | mgeary | The Treeline Group, Inc. We're in Orem |
| 17:04.06 | beandog | mgeary: what if we don't have friends? |
| 17:04.15 | skinner | lol @ beandog |
| 17:04.21 | mgeary | beandog: you're right, i should have acknowledged that for you |
| 17:04.24 | beandog | no more programming! |
| 17:04.30 | beandog | for now. |
| 17:04.30 | mgeary | ~pity beandog |
| 17:04.30 | ibot | I pity da fool beandog! |
| 17:06.43 | beandog | mgeary: are you guys doing python or php or both |
| 17:07.23 | mgeary | both. plus a lot of ajax/jquery/etc. And we're about to launch a really cool project that should delve deeply into some new things in HTML5 |
| 17:07.35 | beandog | right on |
| 17:07.41 | beandog | mgeary: do you guys use any frameworks |
| 17:08.22 | mgeary | beandog: django, we've got a CakePHP project, jquery (if that can be considered a framework)... We have a very liteweight php quasi-framework that i wrote |
| 17:08.57 | beandog | I think writing a framework would be a lot of fun |
| 17:09.24 | mgeary | well, i really shouldn't call it that. It was basically my attempt to have a django-esque ActiveRecord pattern in PHP |
| 17:09.37 | beandog | mgeary: yah? how did it turn out |
| 17:10.27 | mgeary | beandog: well, it was wonderful compared to any options i was aware of at the time (4+ years ago), but it's certainly become a bit dated when compared with Zend Framework and that ilk, but since we tend to do new stuff in Django, it doesn't matter as much |
| 17:10.43 | beandog | right on |
| 17:10.59 | mgeary | and PHP just can't do some things (nicely) that Python does |
| 17:11.18 | mgeary | but still, using any kind of AR model is absolutely wonderful when compared to NOT using one |
| 17:11.24 | beandog | yah |
| 17:11.28 | beandog | I need to find one I like |
| 17:11.36 | beandog | activerecord for php is way too complex, I think |
| 17:11.41 | beandog | instead of writing long queries, I write massive arrays |
| 17:11.45 | beandog | that's not an improvement. |
| 17:12.13 | mgeary | and do you have an objection to learning django? it's super slick |
| 17:12.46 | mgeary | and python is super easy to learn |
| 17:16.22 | skinner | mgeary: what kind of experience they looking for? |
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| 17:18.07 | mgeary | skinner: OOP in PHP, Ajax (jquery), Python would be nice, but can be learned on the job, solid HTML/CSS skills, though it's a developer position, not a designer or HTML jockey position. SQL competence. That sort of thing |
| 17:18.23 | skinner | sweet |
| 17:19.00 | jsmith | mgeary: If I didn't already have the most awesome job on the planet, I'd be slightly interested :-p |
| 17:19.39 | mgeary | jsmith: man, it'd be awesome to have you |
| 17:20.00 | mgeary | ...though we're looking for an intermediate person, and i think you'd be a bit more senior than we're expecting |
| 17:20.21 | skinner | ^ possibly interested |
| 17:20.57 | mgeary | (and when i say "a bit", i mean "probably a lot ") |
| 17:26.10 | mgeary | i'm accepting resumes at michael.geary at treelinegroup.com |
| 17:27.41 | skinner | kk |
| 17:27.56 | skinner | don't be surprised if you get an email from someone with 'skinner' in the name |
| 17:28.28 | mgeary | BF Skinner? The renowned psychologist? |
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| 17:28.52 | mgeary | Principal Skinner? The renowned disciplinarian? |
| 17:29.09 | skinner | That would be Principal BF Skinnerd, Assistant Director of the FBI |
| 17:29.14 | mindjuju | don't forget Assistant Director |
| 17:29.19 | mindjuju | yeah, wasw going to say, xfiles |
| 17:29.55 | mgeary | heh |
| 17:36.53 | skinner | heh, could be: Principal BF "Lynyrd" Skynyrd, Assistant Director of the FBI |
| 17:39.19 | skinner | oops: http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2011/05/02 |
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| 18:08.25 | beandog | okay I couldnt even get Suse to install :C |
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| 18:16.11 | beandog | wow, reading their website, pfsense does a ton of stuff. |
| 18:16.38 | beandog | and, they dump you into a directory listing to download the files. FAIL. |
| 18:16.42 | beandog | I *hate* it when distros do that. |
| 18:24.08 | unum | working with dates in javascript seems painful |
| 18:24.19 | unum | it looks like I'd be better off just doing an ajax request... |
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| 19:21.30 | fungus | herlo, any tips on FreeIPA? v2? Do you use the IPA-client, or just nss/pam? |
| 19:24.23 | herlo | fungus: oh, v2 |
| 19:25.51 | fungus | is it worth trying out? |
| 19:26.04 | herlo | fungus: I'm just getting started with it, but I plan to use it for building packages with koji (requires kerberos) and user management for SSO |
| 19:26.17 | herlo | fungus: it's pretty cool so far |
| 19:26.34 | fungus | I've been reading about it, and getting really curiuous. |
| 19:27.02 | herlo | fungus: it's pretty nice. Has a great little installer that once you have DNS setup properly, does pretty much everything else for you |
| 19:27.15 | herlo | I have a full web interface now for adding users and managing machines in the krb realm |
| 19:28.15 | fungus | thanks, i'll try it out. |
| 19:31.10 | herlo | I've not setup any policies yet other than the defaults, but they have some really good suggestions for security and policies on the docs |
| 19:31.18 | herlo | fungus: cool, let me know how it goes... |
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| 19:57.52 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 19:57.52 | raifbot | Chuck Norrisâ roundhouse kick is so powerful, it can be seen from outer space by the naked eye. |
| 19:58.57 | josephscott | $mindtrick ninnypants |
| 19:58.57 | raifbot | ninnypants move along. |
| 20:01.55 | ninnypants | nice |
| 20:08.24 | wps | why do so many people in India want to join Utah-based LinkedIn or user Groups? |
| 20:08.54 | mindjuju | to advertise themselves as development groups? |
| 20:09.03 | ninnypants | that would be my guess |
| 20:11.57 | wps | (I just posted this to the job list, but thought I'd ask here too) |
| 20:12.03 | wps | Anyone know of any great interaction designers? |
| 20:12.08 | wps | I need to hire one or more |
| 20:12.57 | mindjuju | let's see, influx does design |
| 20:13.32 | mindjuju | that's all that i know from the list |
| 20:13.54 | wps | if you work with any great IxDs, I'd be happy to steal them away :) |
| 20:14.46 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:18.58 | josephscott | this looks cool - http://animatable.com/ |
| 20:20.23 | wps | won't it be an amazing day when we'll be able to use that stuff and have it work in all browsers |
| 20:22.36 | wps | why do video voices always have to b british? |
| 20:25.18 | mindjuju | ~lart the british and their tea and crumpets |
| 20:25.18 | ibot | blames the british and their tea and crumpets for all the evil in the world |
| 20:26.16 | unum | the accent you are refferring to is associated with intellegince, trust worthiness |
| 20:26.26 | unum | not all british accents are created equal :) |
| 20:27.01 | mindjuju | my manservant Jeeves has a British accent |
| 20:27.12 | skinner | Watching that makes me think of Geico |
| 20:27.18 | wps | I love hour they pronounce figure as figga |
| 20:27.23 | wps | s/hour/how/ |
| 20:27.38 | mindjuju | i thought geico was australian |
| 20:27.45 | skinner | it probably is |
| 20:27.56 | skinner | but that vid made me think of the geco |
| 20:29.26 | mindjuju | k, i was wrong, it's not australian - http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2006/geico-gecko-voiced-by-jake-wood/ |
| 20:29.33 | mindjuju | w/ pic |
| 20:30.23 | wps | josephscott: what's impressive to me is that the app is running in a web-browser |
| 20:31.23 | josephscott | wps: yes, but I'm with holding an impressive ratings until it is actually live |
| 20:31.29 | wps | indeed |
| 20:31.34 | josephscott | because I'd hate to find out it is all built in flash |
| 20:31.40 | wps | no kidding |
| 20:31.50 | wps | how ironic would that be |
| 20:31.56 | josephscott | :-) |
| 20:32.04 | josephscott | $mindtrick flash |
| 20:32.04 | raifbot | flash he can go about his business. |
| 20:32.31 | wps | why is PHP the butt of all programming-related jokes? |
| 20:32.37 | wps | it's really getting old |
| 20:32.53 | skinner | cause those ppl are just jealous |
| 20:32.55 | josephscott | its an easy target |
| 20:33.37 | wps | I'm not offended personally, but I just unoriginalâ¦Â come up with something uniquely witty to say |
| 20:33.59 | josephscott | it is less work to make a joke than to give any serious thought |
| 20:34.33 | herlo | I don't know, some of those jokes have to take some serious thought... |
| 20:35.05 | stderr- | I make relevant jokes about PHP all the time. There's a lot to make fun of. Like Windows. |
| 20:36.43 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: perfect ~lart on the British earlier :P |
| 20:36.53 | TuxToaster | that animatable looks pretty sweet |
| 20:37.17 | TuxToaster | don't mind me, just catching up. :-) |
| 20:38.34 | josephscott | PHP has plenty of weak points to make fun of, I suppose that makes it easier that mock than other languages, which have different and sometimes fewer weak points |
| 20:38.36 | mgeary | ~hungry mgeary |
| 20:38.59 | josephscott | besides, it is more fun to mock PHP that to talk up the strengths |
| 20:41.16 | mgeary | and makes for a longer discussion |
| 20:43.53 | mindjuju | k, need some help getting my mind around a particular sql quandary |
| 20:44.57 | mindjuju | i have a sql database that is constantly being updated, and it has a 4gb limitation on file size, and before anybody asks, it is ms sql 2005 express and no i can't change it, an application is dependent on it, as in, coded for the db. |
| 20:45.54 | mindjuju | so what i'd like to do is run a db behind the production db that will query the db for it's latest records and store them (not replication) so that I can go to the production server and delete the oldest records allowing the db to have more space |
| 20:47.46 | mindjuju | i'm currently thinking of querying the tables for their pk, incrementing it 1 and pulling back all records from there |
| 20:47.50 | mindjuju | any better ideas? |
| 20:48.37 | mgeary | well |
| 20:49.37 | mgeary | ah, you mean doing that query on the archive db. i was thinking on your production db |
| 20:49.42 | mgeary | that makes more sense |
| 20:50.10 | mgeary | well, one issue could be that if you do this transfer in the middle of some other complex operation, you could theoretically get orphaned data |
| 20:50.30 | mgeary | e.g. a customer purchase record is brought over but the customer record itself isn't |
| 20:50.44 | mindjuju | yup |
| 20:50.47 | mgeary | but given the nature of your archive db (for archive only?) that may not be as important |
| 20:51.21 | mindjuju | to prevent that, i'm going to do it when the company is closed, and during our peak time, sounds like Saturday at 11p will be a safe time to grab everything so that no records are being added during the bk time |
| 20:55.48 | mgeary | and this backup db might get reads, but never writes, yes? |
| 20:56.13 | mindjuju | right, the only writes that occur to it are those that are scheduled by me from production |
| 20:56.15 | mgeary | it seems like a bit of a pain, but given what you've told me, i'd probably do something similar |
| 20:56.26 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:56.29 | mindjuju | sounds good, thx! |
| 20:56.37 | mgeary | fwmois |
| 20:56.41 | mgeary | i mean |
| 20:56.44 | mgeary | fwmoiw |
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| 21:08.52 | mgeary | hey, i need to make a bash script to recursively process all *.foo files in a top directory. Normally i'd do "for i in *.foo....", but that isn't recursive. Is there a way to use the output of find in a multi-step process? |
| 21:09.25 | beandog | mgeary: multi step? |
| 21:09.30 | beandog | like run more than one process? |
| 21:10.00 | beandog | mgeary: find <dir> -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} foo.sh {} |
| 21:10.19 | mgeary | hrm |
| 21:10.40 | beandog | mgeary: I usually write a small bash script, since I havent found a good way to run multiple commands. |
| 21:10.40 | beandog | :T |
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| 21:16.20 | mgeary | hey, beandog. check this out: |
| 21:16.29 | mgeary | ALL=`find . -type f` |
| 21:16.30 | mgeary | for ONE in $ALL |
| 21:16.30 | mgeary | do .... |
| 21:16.50 | beandog | mgeary: yah ... except whats the diff between that and for i in $foo? |
| 21:16.58 | mgeary | it's recursive |
| 21:17.06 | beandog | for i in $(find ...); do ..; done; |
| 21:17.29 | mgeary | i've only ever done "for i in *.foo..." |
| 21:17.39 | beandog | mgeary: oh. |
| 21:17.46 | beandog | find + xargs is handy. |
| 21:17.54 | beandog | it'll handle filenames with funky chars in them just fine. |
| 21:17.54 | mgeary | yeah, i do that as well |
| 21:17.57 | beandog | oh okay |
| 21:18.01 | beandog | well, you dont need me then |
| 21:18.06 | mgeary | but not usually in scripts |
| 21:18.09 | mgeary | just on the command line |
| 21:18.23 | beandog | did I misunderstand your question? |
| 21:18.25 | beandog | :O |
| 21:18.29 | beandog | Oh well |
| 21:18.43 | mgeary | meh |
| 21:18.47 | beandog | meh |
| 21:19.15 | skinner | meh |
| 21:19.45 | skinner | ~say meh |
| 21:19.45 | ibot | meh |
| 21:20.00 | beandog | nice |
| 21:20.02 | beandog | ~say /me meh |
| 21:20.02 | ibot | /me meh |
| 21:20.04 | beandog | meh |
| 21:20.29 | skinner | lol |
| 21:20.42 | mgeary | $say ~say me |
| 21:20.52 | beandog | ~say you |
| 21:20.52 | ibot | you |
| 21:20.59 | beandog | ~say it for always |
| 21:20.59 | ibot | it for always |
| 21:21.14 | mgeary | aww man |
| 21:21.44 | mgeary | hahaha. good luck with that. my hair is too curly |
| 21:21.49 | mgeary | froofy, rather |
| 21:22.31 | skinner | ~say $mindtrick ~say $mindtrick |
| 21:22.31 | ibot | $mindtrick ~say $mindtrick |
| 21:22.31 | raifbot | ~say $mindtrick these aren't the droids you're looking for. |
| 21:22.31 | ibot | $mindtrick these aren't the droids you're looking for. |
| 21:22.32 | raifbot | these aren't the droids you're looking for. you don't need to see his identification. |
| 21:22.39 | beandog | lol |
| 21:22.46 | skinner | nice |
| 21:23.08 | skinner | that was perfect |
| 21:23.27 | josephscott | very nice! |
| 21:23.55 | skinner | i'm still laughing at that one |
| 21:24.12 | josephscott | ~say $mindtrick ~say $mindtrick |
| 21:24.12 | ibot | $mindtrick ~say $mindtrick |
| 21:24.12 | raifbot | ~say $mindtrick you don't need to see his identification. |
| 21:24.13 | ibot | $mindtrick you don't need to see his identification. |
| 21:24.13 | raifbot | you don't need to see his identification. move along. |
| 21:24.41 | josephscott | ~say $lart ~say $rlart |
| 21:24.41 | ibot | $lart ~say $rlart |
| 21:24.41 | raifbot | calls ~say $rlart on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home. |
| 21:24.57 | josephscott | hmmm |
| 21:25.19 | skinner | ~say $mindtrick ~say $lart ~say $mindtrick |
| 21:25.19 | ibot | $mindtrick ~say $lart ~say $mindtrick |
| 21:25.19 | raifbot | ~say $lart ~say $mindtrick you don't need to see his identification. |
| 21:25.20 | ibot | $lart ~say $mindtrick you don't need to see his identification. |
| 21:25.20 | raifbot | squeezes ~say $mindtrick you don't need to see his identification. till ~say $mindtrick you don't need to see his identification. turns blue like papa smurf. |
| 21:25.40 | skinner | fail |
| 21:26.34 | mgeary | hrm |
| 21:26.40 | mgeary | okay, so my filenames have spaces |
| 21:26.48 | mgeary | so i need to see about using -print0 |
| 21:26.55 | mgeary | but i'm not using xargs |
| 21:26.59 | carmony | anyone know anything about making searchable indexes for implementing a "site search" |
| 21:27.07 | beandog | mgeary: its pretty simple |
| 21:27.09 | beandog | look: |
| 21:27.25 | beandog | "find . -type f -name '*.foo' -print0 | xargs -0" will just dump the filenames for you |
| 21:27.26 | mgeary | carmony: do you want to search everything? or just database content? |
| 21:27.47 | carmony | I have specific content from several different tables |
| 21:27.55 | beandog | to xargs, you can pass "-I <variable name>" if you need to represent the filename in a command |
| 21:28.00 | mgeary | if everything, you can look at things like Solr, Whoosh, and Xapian |
| 21:28.11 | beandog | mgeary: fex, xargs -0 -I {} echo {} && cp {} /tmp/{}.foo |
| 21:28.38 | beandog | mgeary: you need -print0 on find and -0 on xargs for them to escape characters properly |
| 21:29.07 | stderr- | carmony: I'm really experienced in both Solr and Sphinx |
| 21:29.19 | stderr- | not so much with implementing either in PHP, though. |
| 21:29.38 | carmony | Solr is a luscene index, right? |
| 21:29.54 | jsmith | carmony: Aye :-) |
| 21:30.17 | carmony | does sphinx work the same way? I believe I know some libraries to read luscene indexes |
| 21:31.07 | stderr- | you works similarly |
| 21:31.09 | stderr- | it* |
| 21:31.13 | stderr- | crikey I can't type today |
| 21:31.17 | carmony | lol, np |
| 21:31.39 | stderr- | Lucene is more full featured, definitely |
| 21:31.52 | stderr- | but Sphinx works well for small to medium sized sites |
| 21:32.02 | carmony | So the high level view of things is I would use a tool like Sphinx or Solr, and instruct it how to build indexes |
| 21:32.07 | stderr- | especially if you come up with a sane delta arstegy |
| 21:32.45 | stderr- | strategy* |
| 21:33.05 | stderr- | yea, I'm sure there's a PHP library that provides a DSL for declaring indices on models/tables |
| 21:34.11 | mindjuju | stderr, hey - side question off the topic, what about indexing pdf, doc, xls -- i've been reading on this and it seems best way to index those is to convert them to a string and db that |
| 21:34.15 | mindjuju | is that what you've been doing? |
| 21:34.40 | stderr- | y'know, I don't really have much experience indexing media objects like those. |
| 21:34.52 | mindjuju | oh :( |
| 21:35.08 | stderr- | but converting them to a blob/string and throwing them in a db doesn't seem like a grand idea from my less-than-informed point-of-view |
| 21:36.19 | beandog | mindjuju: um, thats a lot of data in the db. |
| 21:44.19 | fungus | mindjuju, adding huge BLOBs into a database table makes scaling much more difficult |
| 21:44.39 | mgeary | well, but he's talking about storing the *text*, right? not the binary data |
| 21:44.48 | mindjuju | right |
| 21:44.51 | mindjuju | store text of doc |
| 21:44.58 | mgeary | makes sense to me |
| 21:45.11 | mgeary | and there are lots of good tools to peel the text out of pdf, doc and xls |
| 21:45.23 | stderr- | Ahhh. Hm. I suppose you're gonna need to store the ripped text somewhere. |
| 21:45.24 | fungus | doesn't matter, still storing huge sections of data can be difficult. |
| 21:45.33 | mindjuju | yup, that's what one of the tuts i read last night suggested |
| 21:45.42 | mgeary | well, but if you want full-text search, what other options do you have? |
| 21:45.47 | fungus | There are benefits, easy replication, full-text search, but you need to be aware of the drawbacks |
| 22:31.56 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFPazVbHIDU |
| 22:32.01 | beandog | I want to see this so bad. |
| 22:33.09 | herlo | yuck |
| 22:33.28 | herlo | beandog: seems so silly |
| 22:33.36 | skinner | lol |
| 22:33.56 | skinner | the mine just popped like a balloon |
| 22:34.18 | beandog | on some intellectual level, all movies are silly |
| 22:34.24 | beandog | its pure entertainment, man |
| 22:34.39 | beandog | :) |
| 22:34.40 | mindjuju | oh i don't know, it's got Burgess Meredith (grumpy old men, rocky, foul play) and Jose ferrer (Dune) |
| 22:35.05 | herlo | beandog: I guess.... |
| 22:35.20 | herlo | I think the graphics were odd, but I get that it's from like the 50s or 60s |
| 22:35.25 | skinner | I see your vid and raise you one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYA9czf_q_M&NR=1 |
| 22:35.34 | mgeary | herlo: i'd say more like the 70s |
| 22:35.49 | beandog | herlo: it's seriously movies like this that make me want to go out and discover new classics that Id never heard of. |
| 22:35.50 | mindjuju | oh man skinner, thats awesome! |
| 22:36.07 | mindjuju | ernest borgnein? another guy from rocky! |
| 22:36.38 | beandog | mindjuju: I think he looked old his whole life. |
| 22:37.01 | mindjuju | who ernest or burgess? |
| 22:37.15 | mindjuju | he looked pretty young to me in Batman (TV series) |
| 22:37.23 | beandog | skinner: and if Fire isn't enough, t here's Flood |
| 22:37.58 | beandog | starring Robert Culp! |
| 22:38.06 | skinner | oh yes |
| 22:38.11 | beandog | I'm sold already. |
| 22:38.23 | skinner | "You'll hear it first.....like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say..." |
| 22:38.42 | beandog | I need a script to download all youtube videos from a user |
| 22:38.45 | beandog | specifically, this one. |
| 22:38.59 | mgeary | beandog: easily done... |
| 22:39.10 | beandog | skinner: oh my, quote of the day |
| 22:39.16 | beandog | mgeary: really? Oh man I would LOVE one |
| 22:39.30 | mgeary | yeap |
| 22:40.09 | skinner | lol |
| 22:40.50 | skinner | the way he says it like answering the question....what does it feel like to die? |
| 22:41.40 | beandog | skinner: seriously... lol... context is needed |
| 22:41.51 | skinner | doesn't make sense really....."How much time before the water reaches town?" "You'll hear it first.....like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say..." |
| 22:42.01 | skinner | ....oh ok....so like 5 minutes? |
| 22:42.30 | beandog | lol |
| 22:42.36 | skinner | How will I know I'm about to be roundhouse kicked by chuck norris? |
| 22:42.37 | beandog | "So I shouldn't bother trying to flee?" |
| 22:42.39 | skinner | "You'll hear it first.....like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say..." |
| 22:42.46 | beandog | "No, darling. Let me snap your neck. It'll be quicker." |
| 22:43.06 | skinner | What will my neck snapping feel like? |
| 22:43.07 | skinner | "You'll hear it first.....like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say..." |
| 22:46.55 | beandog | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0wQhiptQBE |
| 22:46.58 | beandog | skinner: lmao, thats great |
| 22:47.52 | skinner | beandog: lol great music |
| 22:48.18 | skinner | Mad Wizards! Barbaric passions! |
| 22:48.21 | skinner | haha |
| 22:50.11 | skinner | "Meet the greatest team in the history of mass slaughter" |
| 22:50.48 | skinner | You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say... |
| 22:52.48 | beandog | lol |
| 22:52.53 | beandog | that's never going to get old. |
| 22:53.00 | skinner | i know |
| 22:53.16 | skinner | ~say $lart You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say... |
| 22:53.17 | ibot | $lart You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say... |
| 22:53.20 | raifbot | changes You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say...'s permissions to 0777 and tells the world. |
| 22:53.29 | skinner | fail |
| 22:53.30 | mgeary | hah |
| 22:56.34 | skinner | ~say $lart ~lart |
| 22:56.34 | ibot | $lart ~lart |
| 22:56.35 | raifbot | explains, ever so gently, that if ~lart doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help. |
| 22:57.28 | skinner | one of the bots should have that saying added to it |
| 22:57.28 | skinner | You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say... |
| 22:57.37 | mindjuju | @beandog, if you want the really good stuff, it's got to be Golden Harvest, like this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcdYvTa660U , it's actually really good with modern effects and great story line, and ofcourse some awesome kung fu |
| 22:57.54 | mindjuju | and don't forget Sonny Chiba |
| 22:58.01 | beandog | hold on |
| 22:58.03 | beandog | this is good movie overload |
| 22:58.07 | beandog | give me a second to process |
| 22:59.04 | mindjuju | btw, anybody who wants to watch this, let me know, i have it, the soundtrack and a jacket pin that says stormriders in Chinese |
| 23:00.15 | mindjuju | oh wait, there is a sequel? when did this hppne? |
| 23:02.11 | mindjuju | oh man |
| 23:02.31 | mindjuju | must find sequel and fast |
| 23:04.33 | mindjuju | @beandog, where old cartoons are your passion, finding awesome foreign kung fu movies is mine, have some really good stuff |
| 23:04.53 | beandog | mgeary and I are playing with youtube-dl |
| 23:04.55 | beandog | and it's awesomeness |
| 23:05.00 | beandog | plz hold. |
| 23:07.43 | skinner | haha, http://www.ksl.com.....headline |
| 23:07.52 | skinner | http://www.ksl.com |
| 23:07.59 | skinner | "unusual things" |
| 23:08.20 | skinner | "Hey honey....are those snipers? That looks like a helicopter....military grade...." |
| 23:08.37 | mindjuju | skinner, did you see the guy that tweeted the raid? |
| 23:08.49 | skinner | i heard about it, but that was it |
| 23:08.49 | *** join/#uphpu jkr801 (~jkr801@c-67-186-232-131.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:10.03 | mindjuju | @skinner - http://twitter.com/#!/reallyvirtual |
| 23:10.15 | mindjuju | apparently now he's crazy famous and his last posts are asking people to go away :) |
| 23:10.18 | mindjuju | let him sleep |
| 23:10.35 | skinner | lol |
| 23:10.37 | skinner | nice |
| 23:11.00 | mindjuju | but if you get back to may 1, it's pretty interesting |
| 23:11.07 | mindjuju | apparently he saw the chopper go down, etc |
| 23:11.43 | mindjuju | if you go to his twitter, search for this on May 1 Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event). |
| 23:12.04 | beandog | ~mgeary++ |
| 23:12.32 | beandog | okay mindjuju |
| 23:12.53 | stderr- | hope they release the video |
| 23:14.23 | beandog | mindjuju: what in the world |
| 23:17.10 | mindjuju | oh man, that guy that tweeted, he went up from a few hundred back on May 1 to 96k today |
| 23:17.12 | mindjuju | that's funny |
| 23:17.34 | skinner | dang |
| 23:18.01 | stderr- | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/03/cop_car_hacking/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed |
| 23:25.54 | skinner | stderr: interested read |
| 23:25.59 | skinner | *interesting |
| 23:36.15 | *** part/#uphpu mgeary (~mgeary@50.8.70.19) |