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| 01:35.54 | carmony | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.55 | carmony | l |
| 02:21.20 | DexterTheDragon | PoeticIntensity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5T-WaIIogo |
| 02:25.32 | herlo | carmony: wth? |
| 02:26.04 | carmony | herlo: hrm? |
| 02:26.06 | carmony | lol |
| 02:26.24 | herlo | so much blank space |
| 02:26.37 | carmony | I don't know what caused that |
| 02:26.38 | carmony | lol |
| 02:27.04 | herlo | indeed |
| 02:27.07 | herlo | wtg |
| 02:27.13 | carmony | lol |
| 02:27.54 | influx | heh |
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| 02:28.58 | herlo | carmony: I especially liked that you came in at the end, commenting about your hamburger, or something hambuger-ish |
| 02:29.07 | carmony | lol |
| 02:35.19 | ninnypants | I think I need to buy and play Portal 2 before people start posting spoilers... |
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| 03:18.28 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 03:18.28 | raifbot | Chuck Norris sold his soul to the devil for his rugged good looks and unparalleled martial arts ability. Shortly after the transaction was finalized, Chuck roundhouse kicked the devil in the face and took his soul back. The devil, who appreciates irony, couldn't stay mad and admitted he should have seen it coming. They now play poker every second Wednesday of the month. |
| 03:20.41 | josephscott | haha! |
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| 15:37.02 | carmony | hey macnewbold |
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| 15:44.27 | carmony | looks like they are streaming talks from the PHP Community conference today -- http://openevent.tv/ |
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| 15:45.46 | josephscott | carmony: you didn't go? |
| 15:45.58 | carmony | naw, I'm going to php tek in may |
| 15:46.35 | beandog | monin |
| 15:47.18 | macnewbold | carmony! How is it going? |
| 15:47.34 | carmony | macnewbold: good, we still good for tonight? |
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| 15:49.39 | tierra | now that I actually have a PHP project that needs a full IDE, I've been comparing Eclipse with NetBeans, and I think NetBeans has already proven to be a clear winner |
| 15:49.54 | carmony | ~high5 tierra |
| 15:49.54 | ibot | ACTION starts with tierra and goes around the channel giving everyone high 5s |
| 15:49.54 | macnewbold | yeah, let's rock and roll |
| 15:50.02 | tierra | ^5 |
| 15:50.30 | eggyknap | .oO("My Other IDE is Also Vim") |
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| 15:51.26 | carmony | macnewbold: Alright, I think for the topic we'll just call it "Running PHP in Production" and we can talk about amazon aws, other cloud providers, and other stuff that is good to know about running php code you've written :P |
| 15:51.37 | josephscott | tierra: have you tried phpstorm? |
| 15:51.53 | tierra | though that now makes me reliant on two major pieces of software that have been swallowed up by Oracle (the other being VirtualBox) :/ |
| 15:52.11 | tierra | at least LibreOffice came to the rescue |
| 15:52.24 | tierra | josephscott: never heard of it |
| 15:52.38 | josephscott | another php ide |
| 15:52.59 | carmony | I got a full key for CodeLobster's IDE to review |
| 15:53.07 | beandog | are we having a uphphu meet? |
| 15:54.02 | carmony | beandog: yup |
| 15:54.11 | beandog | what time / where |
| 15:54.26 | josephscott | carmony: you run windows now? |
| 15:54.35 | carmony | naw |
| 15:54.44 | carmony | the guy emailed me asking if I'd be willing to do a review |
| 15:54.57 | josephscott | codelobster is windows only |
| 15:55.03 | josephscott | which is why I asked |
| 15:55.06 | carmony | I have my windows machine :) |
| 15:55.16 | carmony | my "uber gaming tower" |
| 15:55.20 | josephscott | haha! |
| 16:00.17 | carmony | macnewbold: do we want to send out an announcement email? |
| 16:01.03 | beandog | put it in topic too |
| 16:01.32 | mgeary | hey beandog, you ever try to use ffmpeg to put a watermark on a video? |
| 16:01.39 | beandog | mgeary: no |
| 16:01.47 | mgeary | well why the heck not? sheesh |
| 16:02.54 | josephscott | because watermarks are evil of course :-) |
| 16:03.14 | mindjuju | ~apb herlo |
| 16:03.14 | ibot | ACTION hires Beth to find herlo |
| 16:03.27 | beandog | exactly |
| 16:03.31 | mgeary | heh |
| 16:03.37 | mindjuju | sup beandog |
| 16:03.50 | beandog | tired |
| 16:03.54 | mindjuju | my last final is Monday! |
| 16:03.58 | mindjuju | then summer off! |
| 16:04.00 | beandog | mine is Saturday |
| 16:04.09 | josephscott | beandog: did you ever start that new job? |
| 16:04.19 | beandog | josephscott: yah I did |
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| 16:04.25 | beandog | about a month ago |
| 16:04.31 | josephscott | so what/where is the new job? |
| 16:04.44 | beandog | josephscott: digital trike in slc |
| 16:04.49 | beandog | Doing full-time sysadmin |
| 16:06.09 | josephscott | cool |
| 16:06.29 | beandog | aye |
| 16:06.31 | beandog | that and school |
| 16:06.34 | beandog | lots of school. |
| 16:09.29 | josephscott | haha, Thundarr |
| 16:10.41 | josephscott | do not confuse the sword with a light saber |
| 16:11.03 | beandog | aye |
| 16:11.20 | herlo | mindjuju: pong? |
| 16:11.46 | mgeary | Thundarr.... Thundarr.... Thudarr cats HO! ;) |
| 16:12.17 | beandog | mgeary: um, no. |
| 16:12.23 | mgeary | :) |
| 16:13.39 | carmony | lol, listening to them talk about the pros and cons of SOAP |
| 16:13.53 | mgeary | there are pros? |
| 16:14.11 | carmony | technically yes, but the cons almost always outweigh them :P |
| 16:15.02 | mindjuju | hmm, bei mir bist du schoen is the only "German" song i've got without cheating and playing something like Wagner |
| 16:15.09 | carmony | josephscott: I'm pretty sure I know why they won't do named parameters in PHP now :P |
| 16:15.28 | josephscott | carmony: ? |
| 16:15.53 | josephscott | I'd like multiple inheritance in OO too, but core PHP devs don't like that either :-( |
| 16:16.05 | carmony | josephscott: it would require a change to the way the optcodes are done |
| 16:16.25 | josephscott | that is hardly the end of the world |
| 16:16.55 | josephscott | this is the same group that brought us java like exceptions (groan) I think they can handle named parameters |
| 16:17.08 | carmony | I know, but apparently any time they need to change the zend engine for a change, the likely hood of that change getting done is lowered a lot. |
| 16:17.18 | carmony | lol, I know |
| 16:18.26 | josephscott | is this the same group that was lamenting there are no more interesting features/tasks to add to PHP? |
| 16:18.39 | josephscott | c'mon, the win for named parameters is so big it is worth low level changes |
| 16:18.46 | carmony | lol, I guess. |
| 16:18.48 | carmony | yeah, I agree |
| 16:18.55 | josephscott | I should say, named parameters done right |
| 16:19.09 | josephscott | that is one feature that cheating on would be a really let down |
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| 16:22.18 | tierra | I would prefer multiple inheritance over named params, but both would be nice |
| 16:22.39 | josephscott | I'd actually be the opposite |
| 16:22.47 | josephscott | if I had to choose between the two |
| 16:23.16 | xtrementl | josephscott: do you prefer the interfaces? |
| 16:23.30 | josephscott | for OO ? |
| 16:23.37 | xtrementl | yep |
| 16:23.50 | josephscott | nay, never been big into interface classes |
| 16:24.15 | josephscott | fells like writing another layer code, but one that intentionally does absolutely nothing |
| 16:24.26 | xtrementl | and can be inflexible |
| 16:24.30 | tierra | there's at least hacks to get some sort of fake multiple inheritance in, using much of the reflection features at runtime, but I still see it as a major drawback |
| 16:24.42 | xtrementl | what about mixins? |
| 16:26.01 | tierra | mixins and interfaces aren't the same... sometimes it needs to be it's own standalone object |
| 16:26.24 | xtrementl | indeed i'm just jumping topics :) |
| 16:32.38 | macnewbold | k |
| 16:33.17 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting tonight @7pm: Carmony on "Running PHP in Production" at Code Greene | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
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| 16:51.03 | carmony | macnewbold: thanks :) |
| 16:58.03 | josephscott | http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2881-any-intelligent-fool-can-make-things-bigger |
| 16:58.09 | josephscott | applies to software as well :-) |
| 17:03.47 | beandog | mgeary: looks like youre reading api docs |
| 17:04.05 | mgeary | beandog: ? |
| 17:04.10 | beandog | for ffmpeg |
| 17:05.59 | macnewbold | announcement sent to the list too |
| 17:07.43 | mgeary | beandog: same stuff here: http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC86 |
| 17:07.53 | josephscott | where in the world is matt - http://matt.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/president-obama-senator-feinstein-senator-pelosi/ |
| 17:08.07 | beandog | oh. huh. |
| 17:09.15 | mindjuju | @josephscott, where is he that the can take this picture? |
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| 17:09.36 | mindjuju | no where in the US is it 4:12p on the 21st of april this year |
| 17:09.48 | beandog | my gosh |
| 17:09.51 | beandog | can't wake up this morning |
| 17:10.06 | beandog | maybe Ill go stick my eyeballs in one of those hand driers |
| 17:10.07 | josephscott | mindjuju: fundraiser breakfast apparently |
| 17:10.28 | mindjuju | curiously the time posted says 4:12pm 4/21/2011 |
| 17:11.07 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmatt.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F04%2Fphoto48.jpg |
| 17:11.14 | DexterTheDragon | that's where it was taken :) |
| 17:12.05 | mindjuju | that's a cool site there DtD |
| 17:12.12 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: isn't exif and geo location great :-) |
| 17:12.32 | mindjuju | i still think that Matt Multiwag is a time traveler though |
| 17:13.30 | josephscott | I know where that museum is, I've walked by it a few times |
| 17:22.28 | beandog | mgeary: good luck man |
| 17:22.48 | mgeary | beandog: no kidding :/ |
| 17:23.00 | beandog | mgeary: did you check users ml? |
| 17:23.14 | mgeary | no, is that irc, or a mailing list? |
| 17:23.18 | mgeary | oh, ml= mailing list |
| 17:23.42 | beandog | ~cluebat mgeary |
| 17:23.42 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps mgeary. |
| 17:24.19 | beandog | mgeary: Its come up before .. I dunno if they ever found out how to do it |
| 17:24.29 | beandog | but from my recollection, upstream didn't care much because its so annoying. |
| 17:24.53 | beandog | that probably didn't help. |
| 17:25.22 | mgeary | beandog: found this: http://www.edmondweblog.com/index.php/2011/01/30/inserire-logo-in-un-video-con-ffmpeg/, but that code just doesn't work for me. i get Missing key or no key/value separator found after key 'png:logo.png' |
| 17:26.24 | beandog | hmm |
| 17:26.30 | beandog | that syntax just looks odd. |
| 17:29.56 | beandog | Im going to go to Costco and stuff a hot dog down my gullet. |
| 17:30.03 | beandog | in that order. |
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| 17:45.25 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 17:45.25 | raifbot | Chuck Norris got set on fire. The fire had to stop, drop, and roll. |
| 17:48.38 | mgeary | beandog: did you see i got my answer on #ffmpeg? |
| 17:48.39 | mgeary | :) |
| 17:48.40 | mgeary | woot |
| 17:52.40 | Utah_Dave | Hmm. Stealing some design tips from a tutorial on designing a table layout has really paid off! |
| 17:54.03 | influx | mindjuju: hellooo |
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| 18:01.32 | ninnypants | hey there influx |
| 18:09.14 | beandog | mgeary: right on |
| 18:11.52 | influx | hola ninnypants |
| 18:11.57 | influx | mindjuju: aroooo |
| 18:12.02 | influx | I wonder if he ever got my pm. |
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| 18:16.58 | ninnypants | influx: seems more like he's offended ;) |
| 18:21.14 | influx | Ha. |
| 18:21.18 | influx | I wouldn't be surprised if he were. |
| 18:21.35 | influx | I was supposed to deliver on a graphic Monday, but didn't do so until last night when I got home. |
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| 18:21.49 | influx | :| |
| 18:22.12 | ninnypants | heh |
| 18:22.31 | beandog | mgeary: does it work? |
| 18:26.36 | mgeary | beandog: sure does |
| 18:26.40 | beandog | cool |
| 18:26.42 | beandog | can I have a cookie now |
| 18:26.48 | mgeary | ~cookie beandog |
| 18:27.50 | ninnypants | heh what? |
| 18:31.24 | mgeary | ~prarie ninnypants |
| 18:31.25 | ibot | ACTION takes ninnypants out to the prarie and shows him land so flat he can see the back of his head on the horizon |
| 18:31.34 | mgeary | the sad thing is that the correct spelling is "prairie" |
| 18:31.43 | mgeary | ibot: forget prarie |
| 18:31.43 | ibot | mgeary: i didn't have anything called 'prarie' to forget |
| 18:32.16 | mgeary | of course you didn't |
| 18:35.56 | ninnypants | for some reason I wasn't thinking ~cookie ran a random command |
| 18:36.17 | mgeary | ~cookie |
| 18:36.31 | mgeary | ~cookie ninnypants |
| 18:36.40 | mgeary | hrm |
| 18:36.44 | mgeary | that's weird |
| 18:36.51 | mgeary | ~cookie beandog |
| 18:37.07 | mgeary | strange... |
| 18:37.11 | mgeary | ~cookie beandog |
| 18:37.21 | mgeary | ~cookie jsmith |
| 18:37.31 | mgeary | ~cookie ninnypants |
| 18:37.38 | mgeary | ~cookie mgeary |
| 18:37.39 | beandog | heh |
| 18:37.40 | beandog | ~fail |
| 18:37.40 | ibot | FAIL. |
| 18:37.50 | mgeary | ~cookie thebigdog |
| 18:38.04 | mgeary | ~anvil |
| 18:38.12 | mgeary | ~anvil beandog |
| 18:38.12 | ibot | ACTION drops an anvil on beandog's head |
| 18:39.23 | mindjuju | that's really too bad, beandog was rather nice |
| 18:39.32 | mindjuju | ~whammy mgeary |
| 18:39.44 | mindjuju | oh that's a seriosu fail on ibot's part |
| 18:39.49 | mindjuju | $whammy mgeary |
| 18:39.56 | mindjuju | tsk tsk |
| 18:41.18 | mgeary | "back", mindjuju ? |
| 18:41.22 | mgeary | ;) |
| 18:41.27 | mindjuju | ah dag |
| 18:41.27 | mgeary | ~troll mindjuju |
| 18:41.27 | ibot | ACTION hereby declares mindjuju a troll |
| 18:41.37 | mindjuju | me? |
| 18:42.13 | mindjuju | hey, did i post anything when I saw the youtube video of the police going into a man's garage and confiscating his video camera because he was recording an arrest? |
| 18:42.33 | mindjuju | i mean, he was on his own property and he was filming with a camera he legally paid for |
| 18:42.38 | mindjuju | did i post a peep? |
| 18:43.52 | beandog | mindjuju: someone needs to retake civics 101 |
| 18:44.20 | mindjuju | ? |
| 18:44.39 | beandog | the cop. -_- |
| 18:44.43 | mindjuju | ah |
| 18:44.54 | mindjuju | i thought you meant me, i was going to say, he had full rights |
| 18:44.56 | beandog | ~cluebat mindjuju |
| 18:44.56 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps mindjuju. |
| 18:45.03 | mindjuju | as long as he isn't interfering with the arrest |
| 18:45.15 | beandog | mindjuju: check out carlosmiller.com if you like that stuff |
| 18:46.18 | mindjuju | btw, i'm shopping for a tie on amazon.com |
| 18:46.24 | mgeary | http://www.pixiq.com/contributors/248 |
| 18:46.55 | mindjuju | whew! that's enough of that |
| 18:47.04 | mindjuju | that stuff makes me super angry |
| 18:47.13 | mindjuju | like mgeary angry even |
| 18:47.15 | beandog | mindjuju: makes me sad |
| 18:47.39 | mgeary | power corrupts |
| 18:47.47 | mindjuju | true that |
| 18:47.55 | beandog | thats why we don't give mgeary ops |
| 18:48.21 | beandog | or anything sharp |
| 18:48.24 | mgeary | one of many good reasons |
| 18:48.42 | beandog | "why is the cork on the fork?" |
| 18:48.46 | beandog | name that movie! |
| 18:48.47 | mindjuju | i think i'm going to resing the Signs song about signs being everywhere and make it be cameras instead |
| 18:49.26 | mindjuju | why does the gov think it's ok to put up a camera on a street light to film me, and I can't film a civil servant ? |
| 18:50.03 | beandog | mindjuju: well, it's not the gov't. its just power hungry cops |
| 18:50.07 | beandog | or untrained. |
| 18:50.10 | beandog | or poorly trained |
| 18:50.12 | beandog | or jerks. |
| 18:50.17 | beandog | or pooptards. |
| 18:50.26 | mindjuju | freakin NSA recording all internet traffic, maybe we should tap their traffic and store it in a db and query it in the same fashion |
| 18:50.30 | mindjuju | see how they feel about it |
| 18:50.47 | mgeary | mindjuju: well, the whole wikileaks thing showed us how they feel about it |
| 18:51.25 | mindjuju | and wth does the Utah Legislature think they are passing the amended GRAMA |
| 18:51.32 | beandog | mindjuju: just do what I do and make sure to throw in some false positives |
| 18:51.33 | mindjuju | and sneaking it through no less |
| 18:51.47 | mindjuju | no public discourse, nothing, here, let's just ram this down your throat |
| 18:51.50 | beandog | mindjuju: you're seriously going to make yourself frustrated. cam down |
| 18:51.52 | beandog | calm |
| 18:51.57 | mindjuju | grrr! |
| 18:52.06 | beandog | think about pink unicorns |
| 18:52.11 | beandog | it's a safe place. |
| 18:52.31 | beandog | man, I love NFS |
| 18:52.35 | beandog | so much stabler. |
| 18:53.11 | mindjuju | with little security cameras on all the trees |
| 18:53.16 | beandog | now think of a forest fire |
| 18:53.41 | beandog | and bbq mutated ponies |
| 18:53.52 | mindjuju | and pony musicals ? |
| 18:53.59 | beandog | ponycals! |
| 18:54.02 | beandog | ~mindjuju |
| 18:54.03 | ibot | well, mindjuju is sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms, or likes ponicals, or listens to celine dijon |
| 18:54.06 | beandog | ponicals |
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| 18:54.53 | mindjuju | so i'm just curious here |
| 18:55.00 | mindjuju | i'm shopping for ties at amazon |
| 18:55.03 | mindjuju | and i found this one |
| 18:55.04 | mindjuju | http://www.amazon.com/Tommy-Hilfiger-Mens-Cocoa-Mini/dp/B0048WQ92E/ref=sr_1_20?s=apparel&qlEnable=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1303411391&sr=1-20 |
| 18:55.20 | mindjuju | and there are 5 styles, but it says 1 is left |
| 18:55.25 | mindjuju | 1 of each? 1 of the 5? |
| 19:01.16 | stderr- | that's per style. So, 1 of the Navy is left |
| 19:09.36 | josephscott | $lart software patents |
| 19:09.37 | raifbot | does a little 'dpkg -P software patents' action. |
| 19:15.03 | carmony | $weather 84405 |
| 19:15.04 | raifbot | carmony - current weather for 84405 - Mostly Cloudy 59f / 15c Humidity: 50% Wind: SW at 21 mph |
| 19:15.21 | carmony | lol, raifbot, it is storming like crazy |
| 19:15.41 | mindjuju | carmony, how far did you get in portal2? |
| 19:15.54 | carmony | mindjuju: I.... beat single player yesterday |
| 19:16.10 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 19:16.13 | carmony | yeah |
| 19:16.16 | mindjuju | was it crazy good? |
| 19:16.17 | carmony | it was a lot of fun |
| 19:16.23 | carmony | quite a bit longer than the first |
| 19:17.22 | fungus | hehe, it's kinda cool when the building shakes and sways in the wind. |
| 19:17.49 | DexterTheDragon | $weather Layton, UT |
| 19:17.50 | raifbot | DexterTheDragon - current weather for Layton, UT - Mostly Cloudy 55f / 13c Humidity: 61% Wind: SW at 19 mph |
| 19:18.00 | beandog | carmony: srsly? wow. you are a machine. |
| 19:18.15 | beandog | I think Im stuck on like the 3rd level of the first game. |
| 19:18.20 | carmony | haha |
| 19:18.37 | carmony | it was just fine, a nice break from my projects |
| 19:18.54 | beandog | anyone else played Star Wars TFU2 |
| 19:19.28 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: me |
| 19:19.36 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: whatd you think of it? |
| 19:19.46 | DexterTheDragon | sucked |
| 19:20.05 | beandog | okay good, it's not just me. |
| 19:20.18 | DexterTheDragon | beat it in like 7 hours. story went nowhere. was crap compared to the first |
| 19:20.23 | beandog | Im to the point where I'm fighting Vader ... and it dawned on me ... this is the end? |
| 19:20.34 | beandog | The story is SUPER short |
| 19:20.46 | beandog | There's not a lot of people to fight |
| 19:20.46 | DexterTheDragon | and it has no resolution |
| 19:20.59 | beandog | and the guy just moves slower than the first game. |
| 19:21.09 | beandog | The whole thing could have been an add-on for the first one |
| 19:21.19 | carmony | Hrm, I wonder when SW:TOR will come out |
| 19:24.11 | skinner | $weather Orem, UT |
| 19:24.11 | raifbot | skinner - current weather for Orem, UT - Cloudy 62f / 17c Humidity: 47% Wind: W at 9 mph |
| 19:26.34 | beandog | woo |
| 19:26.36 | beandog | power blinkage |
| 19:26.46 | skinner | us too |
| 19:26.53 | beandog | and everybody has a ups but me :C |
| 19:27.02 | beandog | like, I think even the printer has one. |
| 19:27.04 | beandog | but I don't. |
| 19:27.14 | skinner | beandog: what city you in? |
| 19:27.19 | beandog | skinner: salt lake |
| 19:27.25 | skinner | <Orem |
| 19:27.35 | skinner | we gots power blinkage too |
| 19:27.47 | ninnypants | I think we just had a little in Provo |
| 19:27.54 | ninnypants | not sure why though not even windy |
| 19:28.00 | beandog | I better go horde the snacks while I can |
| 19:28.48 | fungus | lol, i got power blinkage too, but my desktop is tied into the server UPS system and generator. woots |
| 19:30.34 | beandog | fungus: thats the worst case scenario. that means you don't have any excuses not to work |
| 19:30.50 | fungus | lol, I didn't think of that |
| 19:31.22 | beandog | thats why beandog consulting services is here. to help you. |
| 19:31.24 | beandog | help yourself. |
| 19:32.08 | fungus | wow, I just looked out the window and our flag is flying at half mast. Is today a special day or something? |
| 19:32.52 | skinner | ah ha! |
| 19:32.53 | skinner | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=13148941&nid=149 |
| 19:42.21 | mgeary | half-mast for a severe thunderstorm?? |
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| 19:45.47 | ninnypants | hmm seems we're just starting to get it here |
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| 19:50.53 | josephscott | wow it is raining like mad! |
| 19:50.59 | josephscott | $weather 84092 |
| 19:50.59 | raifbot | josephscott - current weather for 84092 - Cloudy 59f / 15c Humidity: 49% Wind: SW at 11 mph |
| 19:51.10 | ninnypants | $weather 84601 |
| 19:51.11 | raifbot | ninnypants - current weather for 84601 - Cloudy 60f / 16c Humidity: 44% Wind: W at 11 mph |
| 19:51.18 | mgeary | josephscott: where are you? |
| 19:51.23 | mgeary | no sign of anything in Orem yet |
| 19:54.04 | josephscott | sandy |
| 19:54.14 | josephscott | I could feel the thunder in my basement |
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| 19:54.59 | redroy | It's getting close to me |
| 19:55.06 | mgeary | redroy: where are you? |
| 19:55.09 | thinbegin | come someone help me with my css code? i stole a snippet, but it isn't doin' it right... |
| 19:55.12 | thinbegin | http://unmannedship.com/test/mastermind.html |
| 19:55.13 | mgeary | is it moving south? |
| 19:55.19 | redroy | AF / Vineyard |
| 19:55.26 | mgeary | so it is |
| 19:56.01 | ninnypants | it's crazy windy in Provo now but only a little bit of the sky is dark |
| 19:56.32 | thinbegin | seems like it's heading north, so UV should be fine? |
| 19:56.48 | thinbegin | dunno |
| 19:57.30 | influx | ~cookie mindjuju |
| 19:57.38 | redroy | thinbegin: that's two too many tables ;) what was the CSS issue? |
| 19:58.18 | thinbegin | the CSS box isn't encompassing all of the text |
| 19:58.25 | thinbegin | though it should be "contained" |
| 19:59.28 | redroy | take out the inline "height" on the span #surveyMonkeyInfo |
| 20:00.16 | mgeary | ~blend redroy |
| 20:00.16 | ibot | ACTION takes redroy and throws him/her into a Blendtec 2000 along with some onions, ketchup, zucchini, and chocolate syrup, presses the "putrify" button and serves up mindjuju's favorite: redroy gruel |
| 20:00.18 | thinbegin | i'm an idiot.... thanks! |
| 20:00.30 | thinbegin | hugs to redroy |
| 20:00.32 | thinbegin | :) |
| 20:00.52 | redroy | ha, np |
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| 20:42.10 | mindjuju | yippee! http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/state-police-can-suck-data-out-cell-phones-un |
| 20:42.18 | mindjuju | ~apb influx |
| 20:42.18 | ibot | ACTION summons baby Lyssa to spray mace at influx |
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| 21:04.40 | carmony | mindjuju: wow, sheesh |
| 21:05.04 | mindjuju | on that police thing? i know |
| 21:05.08 | carmony | yeah |
| 21:05.36 | carmony | what I wonder is if they have to have a warrant to use it |
| 21:06.24 | redroy | umm⦠according to our constitution they do |
| 21:07.01 | carmony | yeah, I would assume so |
| 21:07.54 | redroy | "it could be used during minor traffic violations to conduct suspicionless and warrantless searches without the phone owner having any idea that all their phone data was now in the hands of authorities" |
| 21:07.59 | redroy | what the? |
| 21:08.30 | josephscott | wonder if it comes under the patriot act, sniffing electronic info |
| 21:09.48 | mindjuju | i just get frustrated, they shouldn't even be collecting it IMNSHO |
| 21:10.01 | DexterTheDragon | actually its already been through the courts that cops can search your phone without a warrent |
| 21:10.45 | influx | Does that depend at all on where the phone is? |
| 21:10.53 | DexterTheDragon | influx: it can |
| 21:12.08 | DexterTheDragon | basically it falls under the same allowance that allows a cop to look in your cigarette container if they are suspicious you have drugs |
| 21:12.43 | influx | le sigh |
| 21:14.03 | wps | in MySQL⦠|
| 21:14.13 | wps | can I ORDER BY col1 ASC, col2 DESC |
| 21:14.14 | wps | ? |
| 21:14.26 | fungus | yes |
| 21:14.31 | wps | sweet |
| 21:14.34 | wps | I've never done that before |
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| 21:16.44 | DexterTheDragon | "United State v. Robinson was an extension of this old exception which allowed for cops, after lawfully arresting a person, to search that personâs âgrabbing areaâ (meaning the suspectâs immediate surroundings) for any weapons or evidence that may be hidden or destroyed by the suspect. Robinson made it so that any belongings held on by a suspect at the time of arrest could be admitted into evidence against the person even though it |
| 21:16.50 | DexterTheDragon | had nothing to do with the crime he or she was being arrested for and the police had no warrant to do the search." |
| 21:17.26 | josephscott | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.44 | skinner | pretty: |
| 21:17.45 | skinner | http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-eeepad-transformer-review |
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| 21:21.04 | mindjuju | i think the difference here though, is that people pulledover for minor violations, not arrested, are being subject to search |
| 21:22.26 | mindjuju | though, this article doesn't say clearly that, that is what is happening |
| 21:22.43 | mindjuju | i thought it did say minor violation = cell phone confiscation |
| 21:23.49 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: well its probably the whole thing of being pulled over and the cop asking "can I search your car" and if you give permission they don't need a warrent |
| 21:24.30 | mindjuju | yes, that is true |
| 21:33.26 | influx | So I should always refuse. |
| 21:33.29 | influx | Check. |
| 21:35.43 | mindjuju | well... |
| 21:36.10 | mindjuju | if you refuse and they suspect there is a problem, they'll arrest you and then search (as far as i understand things) |
| 21:36.58 | xtrementl | it'll be fun when all the police are private contractors |
| 21:37.30 | mindjuju | like OCP ? |
| 21:38.12 | mindjuju | can you imagine those little punks that hack the road signs to say funny things, hacking into ED 209? |
| 21:38.32 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I believe they still have to wait for a warrant but you can't leave so they basically hold you hostage until you say yes or they get the warent |
| 21:39.02 | ninnypants | but they can't arrest you |
| 21:44.30 | mindjuju | DtD - easily the funniest thing i've seen in weeks - http://www.wordans.com/custom-t-shirt-design-details/celebrity-design-bad-chewbacca-star-wars-59407 |
| 21:44.59 | mindjuju | oh man, the obi-juan kenobi, can't stop laughing - ouch http://www.wordans.com/custom-t-shirt-design-details/celebrity-design-obi-juan-kenobi-star-wars-58539 |
| 22:02.29 | influx | I'd rather be held there while we both wait for a warrant to arrive. |
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| 22:14.26 | beandog | ~lart mysql |
| 22:14.26 | ibot | flings poo at mysql |
| 22:14.52 | beandog | how do you run a query and not return the column names |
| 22:15.47 | beandog | oh |
| 22:15.50 | beandog | n/m |
| 22:16.05 | influx | :] |
| 22:16.54 | beandog | I still dont like how ctl-c kicks you out of the shell |
| 22:16.56 | beandog | ~lart mysql |
| 22:16.56 | ibot | rm -rf's mysql |
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| 22:54.18 | josephscott | http://devour.com/video/little-thor/ must watch until the end |
| 22:59.33 | beandog | lol win |
| 22:59.48 | beandog | ~josephscott++ |
| 23:00.24 | beandog | My vote is for Thor |
| 23:02.48 | mindjuju | i need to submit an egg for the company sponsored Easter party, i'm thinking something TRON-y |
| 23:03.28 | beandog | mindjuju: throw it at someone |
| 23:03.42 | josephscott | tron disc fail :-) |
| 23:03.54 | beandog | mindjuju: give it a light stream |
| 23:04.22 | carmony | haha, light stream eggs |
| 23:04.37 | mindjuju | well, it's funny you say that, i've been thinking of getting some black paint and giving it a black coat, then either using glow wristbands for the lines, or putting an LED inside and having it glow |
| 23:05.09 | beandog | mindjuju: thatd be epiawesome. |
| 23:05.20 | mindjuju | i'll take pics :) |
| 23:05.28 | beandog | *then* throw it at someone. |
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