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| 03:17.13 | carmony | herlo: you around? |
| 03:17.49 | herlo | carmony: hi |
| 03:18.17 | carmony | herlo: was going to ask if you knew of any good socks proxy servers |
| 03:18.28 | carmony | server daemons, that is |
| 03:18.33 | herlo | carmony: ssh |
| 03:18.36 | herlo | :) |
| 03:18.40 | carmony | lol |
| 03:18.48 | carmony | can ssh run as a socks5 server? |
| 03:18.49 | herlo | ssh -D 1080:host:80 |
| 03:18.49 | carmony | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.51 | herlo | carmony: for sure |
| 03:19.08 | herlo | but, you probably want squid |
| 03:19.19 | herlo | iirc, it can do sockss5 |
| 03:19.25 | herlo | I gotta look really quick |
| 03:19.58 | herlo | carmony: yeah, check out squid |
| 03:20.09 | carmony | ok |
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| 03:34.04 | herlo | carmony: looks like I was wrong |
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| 04:51.00 | josephscott | haha, hackers is on TV |
| 05:00.34 | josephscott | $rlart |
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| 14:41.01 | carmony | josephscott: remember how I told you about this huge annoucement and to prepare for a surge of traffic? |
| 14:41.21 | influx | Mawnin'. |
| 14:41.37 | josephscott | did it ever go above 20k PV/day? |
| 14:43.18 | carmony | http://screencast.com/t/gXJm9UKv |
| 14:43.29 | carmony | the launch is in 15 minutes |
| 14:43.49 | carmony | and they anticiapted the spike before the annoucement (people waiting for the video) |
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| 14:44.24 | josephscott | load zero for the win! |
| 14:44.58 | carmony | hehe, yeah |
| 14:45.08 | carmony | spun up a 16gb server for this :P |
| 14:46.55 | josephscott | you may be spinning it down soon too :-) |
| 14:47.00 | carmony | lol |
| 14:47.14 | carmony | yeah, we will after the annoucement is all over :P |
| 14:47.38 | carmony | one of the advantages of on-demand resource allocation (aka cloud) |
| 14:48.17 | carmony | the server is serving up 30 or so http requests per second |
| 14:50.49 | josephscott | that isn't bad |
| 14:51.03 | josephscott | ohhhh, requests per second |
| 14:51.14 | josephscott | and how many items are on a page view? |
| 14:52.24 | carmony | lol, 10ish |
| 14:52.31 | carmony | so we're doing about 3 pages per second |
| 14:52.57 | josephscott | well, might break 200k PVs then |
| 14:54.32 | carmony | yeah, but this site already had some pretty large traffic |
| 14:54.56 | carmony | so it is like maybe a single digit percent increase in traffic |
| 14:55.27 | carmony | 251 people watching so far |
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| 14:58.58 | josephscott | carmony: this was pretty good - http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/funny-graphs-george-lucas-hand-fetishist.png ! |
| 14:59.12 | carmony | haha, I saw it on failblog |
| 15:02.56 | mgeary | speaking of traffic, jsmith-away: ping |
| 15:03.00 | carmony | 1000 people watching it... :P |
| 15:03.07 | carmony | and it hasn't even started yet |
| 15:04.28 | josephscott | is this a video? |
| 15:06.23 | josephscott | $lart variable name typos |
| 15:06.23 | raifbot | pushes the wall down onto variable name typos whilst whistling innocently. |
| 15:08.51 | mgeary | carmony: is this a general-interest event, or targeted at a vertical market? |
| 15:09.00 | carmony | pc gaming |
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| 15:09.27 | mgeary | meh |
| 15:09.37 | carmony | http://alienwarearena.com/discover?redirect=/discover |
| 15:09.50 | carmony | Alienware (Dell) Annoucement |
| 15:10.13 | josephscott | ah flash, how I love to hate it :-) |
| 15:10.22 | mgeary | justin.tv, nice |
| 15:10.47 | josephscott | loading the video just to give carmony's servers something to do ;-) |
| 15:10.57 | carmony | haha, yeah |
| 15:13.25 | josephscott | ok, can't listen to this guy read note cards any more |
| 15:13.31 | carmony | haha |
| 15:13.32 | carmony | yeah |
| 15:17.14 | carmony | lol, 18 inch laptop |
| 15:19.30 | josephscott | for those that can't afford to purchase a weight set |
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| 15:19.58 | carmony | lol |
| 15:21.47 | carmony | but it is a laptop geared for specific users, da gamerz! :P |
| 15:25.27 | carmony | 16 pound laptop... |
| 15:25.29 | carmony | holy cow |
| 15:26.19 | mindjuju | wow, major lighting issue in that film |
| 15:26.48 | mindjuju | hmm, need a second camera for that shot |
| 15:26.55 | mindjuju | not spin camera |
| 15:27.47 | carmony | haha |
| 15:28.01 | carmony | I should have them hire mindjuju for the video/audio ;) |
| 15:28.31 | mindjuju | the sound soudns good, no complaints there :) |
| 15:29.10 | carmony | lol, they could pay you with a few new laptops |
| 15:32.20 | jsmith | mgeary: pong? |
| 15:32.52 | mgeary | jsmith: you mentioned a bit ago how your wife has a site that gets ~1M visits (or was it hits?) per month |
| 15:33.08 | jsmith | mgeary: That was hits :-) |
| 15:33.23 | mgeary | how many visits does that translate into for the site? |
| 15:33.36 | jsmith | Hmmmn... let me check |
| 15:33.58 | mgeary | i'm curious, if you don't mind, if she has any advertising operations on that site, whether it's a vertical market audience, or consumers at-large |
| 15:34.26 | mgeary | we have a couple of sites that get a pretty decent volume in a vertical market, and i'm trying to figure out if there's any viable ad revenue prospects |
| 15:34.44 | mgeary | well, i think it's decent traffic, but i may be naive |
| 15:39.21 | mindjuju | fungus, you around? |
| 15:40.39 | fungus | I am now |
| 15:41.45 | mindjuju | hey fungus, i'm on a server that has a history of out of memory, i jumped on it this morning to do some stuff, noticed its slow, and when i top, i see all swap appears to be used |
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| 15:42.08 | mindjuju | it still has 184MB free of RAM |
| 15:42.24 | mindjuju | i think i may have caught it at the begining of its downward spiral |
| 15:42.39 | mindjuju | what can i look at to see what is causing the problem? |
| 15:47.07 | carmony | haha, funny recruiting sign thing: http://screencast.com/t/GGta5te5mK |
| 15:49.22 | fungus | mindjuju, in top sort by memory used. On |
| 15:49.45 | fungus | that's press Shift-O, followed by the letter n |
| 15:49.54 | herlo | or just hit 'M' |
| 15:50.14 | fungus | ooh, neat trick. thx |
| 15:50.18 | herlo | 'P' for CPU |
| 15:50.29 | herlo | and F then choose a column |
| 15:50.41 | herlo | :P yer welcome fungus |
| 15:51.24 | herlo | fungus, mindjuju: but the ultimate thing to do, install and run htop :) |
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| 16:17.14 | carmony | hrm, should we throw up a meetup group page for uphpu? I guess a lot of other php usergroups use it to help get discovered by others |
| 16:18.52 | mindjuju | meetup charges, don't remember how much |
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| 16:20.35 | Utah_Dave | hey, carmony, I've been reading your article on memcache that you linked to yesterday for me. |
| 16:20.53 | Utah_Dave | So is it standard practice to use a md5 hash for the memcache key? |
| 16:22.25 | carmony | Utah_Dave: eh, it depends |
| 16:23.00 | carmony | it is more of my personal wierdness worried about someone accessing the memcache instance and reverse engineering stuff |
| 16:23.01 | josephscott | for complex/composite keys md5 is probably pretty common |
| 16:23.09 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:23.56 | josephscott | for cases where you have simple strings already for keys you can just use those |
| 16:24.13 | josephscott | just make sure keys are unique of course :-) |
| 16:24.19 | Utah_Dave | OK, my key would be a userid-startdate-enddate |
| 16:25.02 | josephscott | have you looked at redis at all? |
| 16:25.11 | Utah_Dave | Hm, now I'm thinking I may want to pad that userid as well. |
| 16:25.36 | Utah_Dave | No, I've read a little about redis, but haven't considered it for a project yet |
| 16:25.53 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: think I should? |
| 16:26.12 | josephscott | one of the things I really like about redis is the pattern matching for fetching keys |
| 16:27.06 | josephscott | lets say your keys (the format you mentioned) looked like 123456:2011-03-02:2011-04-01 |
| 16:27.22 | josephscott | with one request you can get all of the keys for user id 123456 |
| 16:27.27 | josephscott | 123456* |
| 16:27.43 | josephscott | or all of the keys that started in April |
| 16:28.08 | josephscott | http://redis.io/commands/keys |
| 16:28.28 | josephscott | it also supports more complex data types, which can be handy |
| 16:28.44 | Utah_Dave | Hmm. That could come in handy. |
| 16:29.27 | Utah_Dave | I have a very simple setup. Everything on one server. Is redis fairly easy to get going? |
| 16:30.41 | josephscott | yep, super easy |
| 16:32.31 | Utah_Dave | ok, I'll have to take a look at it. I've got memcache going, but the way I have my models set up, it shouldn't be hard to switch memcache out and use redis |
| 16:33.13 | stderr- | we're using a lot of couchdb |
| 16:33.21 | stderr- | <3 bidirectional replication |
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| 16:50.38 | carmony | I've been looking at couch and mongo db for some projects |
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| 16:51.08 | Utah_Dave | I've looked a little at mongodb recently as well. Pretty interesting. |
| 16:52.38 | josephscott | bummer - http://www.businessinsider.com/dropbox-updates-security-terms-of-service-to-say-it-can-decrpyt-files-if-the-government-asks-it-to-2011-4?op=1 - guess it is time to move everything to jungle disk |
| 16:53.47 | mgeary | josephscott: i like this quote, "That's standard practice for any online storage service from http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/gmail to http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/amazon-1, and shouldn't affect the average user unless they're doing something wrong." |
| 16:54.02 | josephscott | that actually isn't the problem |
| 16:54.19 | mgeary | "if you've got nothing to hide, why do you care?" <-- worst argument ever |
| 16:54.23 | josephscott | dropbox has always claimed that their own employees could not decrypt the content of your files |
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| 16:54.39 | josephscott | turns out that wasn't true |
| 16:54.52 | mindjuju | @mgeary, totally concur |
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| 16:59.06 | carmony | we tell our ddna users that their "private" photos aren't really private :P I wish they would listen |
| 17:00.02 | influx | Who can see them? |
| 17:00.43 | influx | carmony: ^ |
| 17:00.49 | carmony | me |
| 17:00.51 | carmony | lol |
| 17:00.55 | carmony | when I'm debugging stuff |
| 17:01.10 | carmony | I don't want to see people sharing their "bits" |
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| 17:01.22 | carmony | certain things 1s and 0s shouldn't be used for ;D |
| 17:01.40 | mindjuju | do 8 people's bits = a byte? |
| 17:01.55 | carmony | lol |
| 17:02.57 | jsmith | Do we need to worry about multi-bit people? |
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| 17:25.48 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 17:25.49 | ibot | raises middle finger to Utah_Dave |
| 17:25.50 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 17:25.50 | raifbot | chops jkr801 in half with a free AOL CD. |
| 17:26.02 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart mgeary |
| 17:26.02 | ibot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mgeary, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
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| 17:51.33 | Utah_Dave | using memcache has lowered the page load time from over 8 seconds to under a second. Happiness abounds |
| 17:51.47 | Utah_Dave | carmony: thanks for the link on memcache. It helped quite a bit. |
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| 18:20.18 | josephscott | hacking bash scripts, not my strongest area |
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| 18:40.56 | xtrementl | josephscott: yeah lots of gotchas |
| 18:45.48 | carmony | Utah_Dave: glad to be of service :) |
| 18:48.54 | influx | At one time I knew how to search for packages that I'd install with apt-get. |
| 18:49.32 | influx | I forgt, and must not be searching for the right stuff online. How do I search for a package through the command linE? |
| 18:51.11 | bhosie | apt-cache search |
| 18:51.48 | influx | Thanks, bhosie. |
| 18:52.07 | bhosie | influx: np |
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| 20:36.13 | carmony | mindjuju: played any portal 2 yet? |
| 20:36.47 | cro1 | I don't dare, not until after 4/30 when our dinner/auction is done |
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| 21:37.48 | Utah_Dave | carmony: I've been running that Jet Profiler you mentioned in that blog post. There are a whole bunch of queries that it's screaming about. Luckily most of them are from the part of this app that another developer wrote. |
| 21:38.13 | Utah_Dave | Unluckily, he no longer works here, so it looks like I'll be doing a bunch of mysql optimizing next week. |
| 21:43.17 | carmony | lol, ouch |
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| 21:49.09 | josephscott | haha, must read the mouse over on http://xkcd.com/886/ |
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