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| 03:59.37 | herlo | josephscott: you around, I have a silly wordpress question, and it seems nobody has the answer |
| 04:00.03 | josephscott | herlo: sure, what's up |
| 04:00.17 | herlo | josephscott: sweet |
| 04:00.27 | herlo | so I'm trying to setup wordpress using an alternate port |
| 04:00.38 | herlo | I go into the wp-config.php and put 'localhost:3378' |
| 04:00.48 | herlo | I can connect to mysql using |
| 04:01.04 | herlo | mysql -Au wp_user -p wordpress -P 3378 -S /var/lib/mysql/camp78/mysql.sock |
| 04:01.15 | herlo | but when I attempt to run the 5 minute install, no dice |
| 04:01.27 | herlo | I get |
| 04:01.28 | herlo | This either means that the username and password information in your wp-config.php file is incorrect or we can't contact the database server at localhost:3378. This could mean your host's database server is down. |
| 04:01.48 | herlo | josephscott: any suggestions? All the searches I do only pull up this one thing... |
| 04:02.04 | herlo | which is what I'm already doing |
| 04:02.26 | josephscott | ok, mysql on a custom port |
| 04:02.30 | herlo | yeah |
| 04:02.52 | herlo | except the what the docs say to do isn't working |
| 04:03.09 | josephscott | I assume this is what you looked at http://codex.wordpress.org/Editing_wp-config.php#MySQL_Alternate_Port |
| 04:04.00 | herlo | yup |
| 04:04.20 | herlo | that's exactly what I have now and receive the error I mentioned above |
| 04:04.35 | josephscott | k |
| 04:04.50 | josephscott | latest version of WP right? |
| 04:04.51 | herlo | mostly, I just wondered if you knew of another config variable or where to look for config variables |
| 04:04.58 | herlo | 3.1.1, downloaded it tonight |
| 04:06.12 | josephscott | looking at the connect code, just a sec |
| 04:06.40 | herlo | nw, thx |
| 04:07.06 | josephscott | try setting WP_DEBUG to TRUE |
| 04:07.18 | herlo | kk, hang on |
| 04:07.19 | josephscott | that will expose a few more items including db errors |
| 04:08.18 | josephscott | it is getting passed directly to mysql_connect |
| 04:08.30 | josephscott | which claims to support "host:port" style - http://php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-connect.php |
| 04:08.59 | herlo | Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to MySQL server on '127.0.0.0' (101) in /home/clints/camps/camp78/wordpress/wp-includes/wp-db.php on line 1036 |
| 04:09.02 | herlo | that's the only error |
| 04:09.14 | josephscott | 127.0.0.0 ? |
| 04:09.17 | josephscott | not 127.0.0.1 ? |
| 04:09.22 | herlo | hmm wierd hold on |
| 04:10.00 | herlo | ahh, better error |
| 04:10.01 | herlo | Warning: mysql_connect(): Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 in /home/clints/camps/camp78/wordpress/wp-includes/wp-db.php on line 1036 |
| 04:10.16 | herlo | I'm guessing it's because I'm using an alternative socket path |
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| 04:11.45 | herlo | interesting, it doesn't appear there is awy to pass the socket |
| 04:12.01 | herlo | wait! there is |
| 04:12.07 | herlo | :/path/to/socket |
| 04:12.41 | herlo | josephscott: ^^ that works |
| 04:12.50 | josephscott | yes, you can have it talk right to the local unix socket |
| 04:12.51 | herlo | thanks for the direction! |
| 04:12.57 | herlo | josephscott: I missed the : |
| 04:13.03 | herlo | I had been trying that all along |
| 04:13.05 | josephscott | slight performance improvement doing that as well |
| 04:13.11 | herlo | but the stupid : was not there |
| 04:13.13 | herlo | yay |
| 04:13.17 | josephscott | get to avoid up and down the tcp stack |
| 04:13.30 | josephscott | cool, glad things are working now |
| 04:13.48 | herlo | sure |
| 04:13.59 | herlo | it's odd though that you can't say localhost:/path/to/sock |
| 04:14.13 | herlo | seeing as it's very possible the alternate path could be on a separate host |
| 04:14.24 | josephscott | agreed, the local sock style has always felt a bit odd |
| 04:14.45 | herlo | well, I mean, why not have it work on remote hosts too? |
| 04:15.00 | herlo | oh, well, I guess that'll be a limitation of the software |
| 04:15.02 | josephscott | how would you talk to it? |
| 04:15.08 | josephscott | mount the file system remotely? |
| 04:15.28 | herlo | well, you can definitely do host:3378 |
| 04:15.38 | herlo | but if the socket is not the default, it causes pain |
| 04:15.51 | herlo | I wonder if maybe that's better managed at the mysql end ?? |
| 04:16.16 | herlo | I guess writing iptables rules might work |
| 04:16.38 | herlo | but that binding to the socket seems like the sticking point still |
| 04:16.58 | herlo | josephscott: anyway, thanks a ton |
| 04:17.02 | josephscott | sure, np |
| 04:17.25 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 04:17.25 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can watch DVD's on a VCR |
| 04:18.25 | herlo | or video tapes on a blueray |
| 04:18.42 | herlo | and it will convert to HD |
| 04:18.58 | herlo | on a standard 27" CRT |
| 04:19.18 | herlo | :P |
| 04:22.19 | josephscott | I'm out, g'night all |
| 04:24.17 | herlo | nn |
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| 14:11.00 | carmony | wow... interesting concept: http://www.grcooling.com/?page_id=655 |
| 14:11.15 | carmony | cooling your servers via submersion |
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| 14:29.15 | cedwards | what system do ya'll use for storing passphrases? |
| 14:29.51 | jsmith | cedwards: The "type it enough times that your brain remembers it by feel" method :-p |
| 14:30.09 | cedwards | i mean in your apps and databases :) |
| 14:32.04 | cedwards | sha1($password) isn't quite enough. sha1($salt . $password) is better, but is sha1($random-salt . $password) best? |
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| 14:56.41 | SunSparc | lol |
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| 15:23.03 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 15:23.03 | raifbot | steals ChanServ's mojo. |
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| 16:08.27 | SunSparc | $rlart |
| 16:08.28 | raifbot | takes a big bite out of skinner1's jugular vein. |
| 16:08.29 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 16:08.29 | ibot | cats /dev/urandom into cedwards's ear |
| 16:08.51 | SunSparc | ~lart raifbot |
| 16:08.51 | ibot | forces raifbot to use Outlook Express |
| 16:08.58 | SunSparc | $lart ibot |
| 16:08.59 | raifbot | pries ibot's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to ibot. |
| 16:09.15 | SunSparc | Ruthless |
| 16:17.30 | carmony | lol |
| 16:17.43 | carmony | been reading up on PEAR2 this morning |
| 16:21.47 | josephscott | what always bothered me about the original PEAR was the massive interdependencies |
| 16:21.48 | SunSparc | carmony: Fruit keeps you healthy |
| 16:21.56 | carmony | josephscott: yeah |
| 16:22.02 | carmony | pear2 seems to have stalled |
| 16:22.09 | carmony | on their news site, the latest news is 1 year old |
| 16:22.36 | carmony | lol |
| 16:22.41 | carmony | no thanks :P |
| 16:22.43 | josephscott | they ported Django to PHP? |
| 16:22.48 | josephscott | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.12 | mgeary | they tried to, but the retarded namespaces treatment and lack of named parameters nuked the attempt |
| 16:23.39 | josephscott | oh how I have wished for named parameter support in PHP |
| 16:23.51 | carmony | amen |
| 16:23.52 | carmony | :P |
| 16:24.47 | josephscott | I'm actually not all that excited about namespace support, could have lived with out it |
| 16:25.52 | josephscott | unlike named parameters, which would have been an immediate improvement |
| 16:31.31 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:32.48 | carmony | well, Object Notation would give more flexibility in the long run, since inside the function you could have more functionality for building your defaults, but the named parameters would immediately work with anything already written |
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| 16:36.25 | josephscott | object notation is just a specific implementation of named parameters |
| 16:36.47 | josephscott | I'm less concerned that it support the javascript syntax than I am getting the feature in the first place |
| 16:38.24 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:40.36 | carmony | josephscott: perhaps we should put together an RFC for Named Parameters |
| 16:42.56 | josephscott | carmony: challenge is PHP core talked about named parameters in 2005 (2005!) and rejected it |
| 16:43.15 | carmony | well, let's bring it up again! ;) |
| 16:43.22 | josephscott | unless we can get a sense that such a decision could be seriously re-evaluated it seems like lost work |
| 16:46.20 | josephscott | you convince rasmus and I'll raise as much <strike>stink</strike> support for it as I can |
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| 16:56.18 | fungus | josephscott, do you remember the reasoning behind the rejection of named parameters. I'm curious\ |
| 16:57.14 | DexterTheDragon | because they say you can do the same thing using swiss-army-arrays? |
| 16:57.37 | josephscott | fungus: http://www.php.net/~derick/meeting-notes.html#named-parameters |
| 16:57.44 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: sort of, but not really |
| 16:59.10 | fungus | "messier code"? Really? are you f*ing kidding me? |
| 16:59.33 | fungus | swiss-army-arrays and long lists of default arguments are messier. |
| 17:00.06 | mindjuju1 | hey fungus, when you get a sec, what antivirus are you using on your macbook? |
| 17:00.16 | fungus | none |
| 17:00.26 | DexterTheDragon | who uses antivirus? |
| 17:01.07 | mindjuju1 | people on susceptible systems do |
| 17:01.18 | DexterTheDragon | that must suck |
| 17:01.24 | josephscott | yeah, I wasn't impressed with the response to the named parameters option either |
| 17:02.55 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: it's messier for the C code cause they would be forced to figure out how to use => in arrays and function parameters |
| 17:04.35 | fungus | lame |
| 17:04.44 | fungus | ~python++ |
| 17:04.50 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: why couldn't they use : in function parameters and => in arrays? |
| 17:05.44 | josephscott | using a different syntax would be fine |
| 17:05.44 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: cause :: is used for static methods |
| 17:05.46 | fungus | I don't care what syntax they use, I just don't want to specify a ton of default arguments just because I want to change the last one. |
| 17:06.06 | josephscott | what fungus said |
| 17:06.50 | ninnypants | ahh makes sense |
| 17:07.43 | xtrementl | kinda funny if it's only down to a syntax issue in the parser |
| 17:07.55 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: not really, but I guess it does to php core devs |
| 17:08.30 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: true |
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| 17:09.11 | josephscott | xtrementl: bit more than just syntax parsing |
| 17:09.27 | xtrementl | :P yeah i'm oversimplifying |
| 17:13.24 | jsmith | mgeary: Stop that! Real change might happen! |
| 17:13.54 | mgeary | just don't tell mindjuju1 |
| 17:14.14 | jsmith | mgeary: You're assuming he'd listen to me if I told him :-p |
| 17:14.15 | mindjuju1 | salt and vinegar chips |
| 17:14.18 | mindjuju1 | huh what? |
| 17:14.24 | josephscott | mgeary: see carmony's post on the subject |
| 17:14.41 | mgeary | josephscott: link? I've cleared my backbuffer |
| 17:15.09 | mindjuju1 | yeha, i can smell your backbuffer all the way over here |
| 17:15.13 | josephscott | http://www.justincarmony.com/blog/ |
| 17:15.31 | josephscott | http://www.justincarmony.com/blog/2011/04/12/php-itch-to-scratch-object-notation/ |
| 17:15.35 | mindjuju1 | and don't clear your backbuffer in #uphpu any more |
| 17:15.42 | DexterTheDragon | is backbuffer some slang term for masseuse? |
| 17:16.03 | mgeary | hey, a coworker could walk by anytime, and i don't want them seeing the drivel you twits churn out |
| 17:16.41 | mindjuju1 | k, i'm done, i've got to finish this sql install |
| 17:16.42 | carmony | lol |
| 17:17.30 | ninnypants | hmm I think this employer doesn't realize I know PHP |
| 17:17.47 | ninnypants | just explained to me how comas work in arrays... |
| 17:18.22 | DexterTheDragon | how does a coma work in an array? |
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| 17:19.04 | ninnypants | I guess the last element doesn't need a coma after it ;p |
| 17:19.37 | josephscott | PHP supports comma or no comma after the last element in an array |
| 17:19.37 | DexterTheDragon | it's always sad when the last element slips into a coma |
| 17:19.42 | josephscott | which is very nice |
| 17:20.42 | ninnypants | yeah just thought it was funny that I paste one line into a chat with him and he explains that to me |
| 17:22.01 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: my sentiments exactly :) |
| 17:32.27 | ninnypants | anyway any idea why this: 'password' => encrypt('DB_Connector', 'password'), would throw a parse error that says it's expecting ')' instead of '('? |
| 17:40.54 | carmony | is that in an array? |
| 17:41.01 | carmony | like |
| 17:41.46 | carmony | $arr = array('password' => encrypt('DB_Connector','password), 'user' => 'justin'); |
| 17:41.48 | carmony | ? |
| 17:43.50 | mindjuju1 | anybody here know BYU campus? |
| 17:44.23 | ninnypants | carmony: yep |
| 17:44.45 | carmony | can you use functions inside arrays like that? I can't remember |
| 17:45.12 | ninnypants | I've never had an issue with it so long as it returns something |
| 17:45.37 | mindjuju1 | mgeary, do you know byu campus well? |
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| 17:49.02 | ninnypants | carmony: I wrote a quick test case here http://pastebin.com/PE9bFxeB maybe it works cause it a core php function but I don't think that would make a difference |
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| 18:00.20 | mgeary | mindjuju1: yeah, i'd say so |
| 18:00.34 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju1: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0UK2c7vc80s/TLfc6zwVVdI/AAAAAAAAAOI/9DbR7e_peOM/s1600/dubstep2.png |
| 18:01.03 | mindjuju1 | @mgeary, there appears to be a parking lot next to Harris Fine Arts Center, do you happen to know if that is available to the public? |
| 18:01.23 | mindjuju1 | last i went to byu, i wound up walking clear across campus because of parking |
| 18:01.25 | mgeary | mindjuju1: yes |
| 18:01.34 | mindjuju1 | oh awesome, thx! |
| 18:01.35 | mgeary | just to the north by northeast of the HFAC |
| 18:01.44 | mgeary | follow the "Visitor Parking" signs |
| 18:01.55 | mgeary | there's a booth where they may ask you if you're a student |
| 18:02.04 | mgeary | and that lot can fill up on busy days/times |
| 18:02.11 | mgeary | but i can almost always park there when i want to |
| 18:02.19 | mindjuju1 | good to know, i'll show up early |
| 18:02.26 | mgeary | only the first 4 rows are public, iirc |
| 18:02.27 | mindjuju1 | have to watch a recital there for my class at UVU |
| 18:02.34 | mgeary | what time? |
| 18:02.53 | mindjuju1 | there is one at 5:30p and then one at 7:30p |
| 18:02.54 | mgeary | i believe most/all lots open to the public after something like 4pm, sometimes later, depending on the lot |
| 18:03.04 | mgeary | yeah, you can probably park in the entire lot that late |
| 18:03.16 | mindjuju1 | i might stay for the last one, 9:30 p and get all of them done in one day |
| 18:03.20 | mgeary | just check the posted signs |
| 18:03.24 | mindjuju1 | k |
| 18:03.26 | mgeary | they're clear about the time ranges |
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| 18:33.33 | Utah_Dave | looks like everyone is scrambling over at automattic, huh josephscott? |
| 18:34.01 | mindjuju1 | what's wrong with automattic? |
| 18:34.49 | josephscott | Utah_Dave: we are definitely taking it seriously |
| 18:34.57 | mindjuju1 | what up? |
| 18:34.57 | Utah_Dave | someone got root on some of their servers this morning |
| 18:35.02 | mindjuju1 | oh ouch |
| 18:35.11 | mindjuju1 | sql inject? |
| 18:35.13 | Utah_Dave | I think it's great that they're upfront about it right away. |
| 18:36.49 | mindjuju1 | yeah, true that |
| 18:37.10 | xtrementl | Utah_Dave: where'd you see that? |
| 18:37.22 | mindjuju1 | xtrementl: http://mashable.com/2011/04/13/wordpress-security-breach/ |
| 18:37.24 | mindjuju1 | has some info |
| 18:37.29 | xtrementl | thax |
| 18:37.41 | mindjuju1 | xtrementl: did you see the stuff on barracuda over the weekend? |
| 18:37.43 | Utah_Dave | techcrunch.com and matt also posted here: http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/security/ |
| 18:37.58 | mgeary | hey Utah_Dave |
| 18:37.59 | xtrementl | mindjuju1: nope :) |
| 18:38.44 | mindjuju1 | xtrementl: http://blog.barracuda.com/pmblog/index.php/2011/04/12/waf-importance/ |
| 18:39.06 | mindjuju1 | we're doing a systems wide review of all security policies starting yesterday going prolly for the next week |
| 18:39.47 | josephscott | mindjuju1: the barracuda thing said they had sql injection problem, that is how they broke in |
| 18:39.54 | xtrementl | yeah looks like it |
| 18:40.23 | mindjuju1 | yup, saw that, but its good motivation to inspect everything again |
| 18:42.00 | josephscott | mindjuju1: try attacking your own site, it can be hours of good fun :-) |
| 18:42.36 | josephscott | $8ball is it time for lunch? |
| 18:42.36 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes. |
| 18:42.42 | josephscott | ok, I'm getting lunch |
| 18:45.26 | mgeary | $chuck-fact |
| 18:45.26 | raifbot | Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants. |
| 18:45.34 | mgeary | Chuck Norris rocks the casbah |
| 18:51.09 | wps | anyone know how to change the user that I have check out an SVN copy as? |
| 18:54.39 | wps | never mind |
| 18:54.40 | wps | found it |
| 18:54.46 | wps | delete ~/.subversion/auth |
| 18:54.51 | wps | and it'll ask you to reauthenticate |
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| 19:22.40 | carmony | has anyone here ever poked around the php source code before? |
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| 19:54.39 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 19:54.39 | raifbot | send killer squirrels to attack jtsnow. |
| 19:56.23 | Utah_Dave | those must be Russian squirrels |
| 19:59.07 | carmony | lol |
| 20:09.30 | ninnypants | http://i.imgur.com/y7Hm9.jpg |
| 20:09.49 | DexterTheDragon | rofl |
| 20:12.00 | ninnypants | not sure what it's from but I liked it :) |
| 20:14.53 | xtrementl | dos equis |
| 20:14.56 | xtrementl | ick |
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| 20:27.56 | mindjuju1 | i love those commercials |
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| 20:50.51 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 20:50.51 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can sit in the corner of a circular room |
| 20:51.00 | josephscott | $8ball is production the best way to test code? |
| 20:51.01 | raifbot | josephscott - Very doubtful. |
| 20:55.32 | carmony | ouch, wp hacked? |
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| 20:58.09 | carmony | josephscott: heard you had a security breach at WP |
| 20:58.36 | josephscott | wordpress.com, yeah |
| 20:58.51 | mgeary | ninnypants: it was on the front page of reddit.com today, fwiw |
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| 21:14.00 | carmony | josephscott: do you guys know how they got in? |
| 21:14.37 | Dezertol | ah o... what did I miss someone got hacked? |
| 21:15.17 | mgeary | Dezertol: no, someone broke into josephscott's home and took his hamsters |
| 21:15.36 | Dezertol | really?.. just his hamsters? |
| 21:15.50 | Dezertol | they must of been really hungry |
| 21:16.00 | mgeary | they figure it was a gang of 8-year-old girls gone bad |
| 21:16.07 | Dezertol | LOL.. |
| 21:16.14 | Dezertol | soon to be on the cover of girls gone wild |
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| 22:40.29 | mgeary | hey |
| 22:40.39 | mgeary | anyone here worked much with apache's ErrorDocument directive? |
| 22:40.47 | mgeary | i'm having a bit of a time getting it working |
| 22:40.59 | mgeary | but there are some extenuating circumstances |
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| 23:09.45 | mgeary | ~crickets |
| 23:09.45 | ibot | ACTION chirps uninterestedly |
| 23:19.07 | skinner1 | $rlart |
| 23:19.07 | raifbot | pushes the wall down onto bradym whilst whistling innocently. |
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| 23:22.29 | crimlo | hey guys |
| 23:22.48 | crimlo | i need some assistance with a script |
| 23:22.51 | crimlo | anyone? |
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| 23:36.31 | Dezertol | \quit |
| 23:36.35 | Dezertol | lol opps |
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