| 00:00.14 | mindjuju | i might even have a box i could donate to the cause :) |
| 00:00.42 | mindjuju | but pfsense, like ubuntu and other distros, are FOSS that haven't stopped paying divdends by knowing |
| 00:02.18 | redroy | whoa, I was keeping up 'till that last bit. |
| 00:02.41 | mindjuju | about pfsense? |
| 00:03.00 | mindjuju | or me mixxing pfsense with a list of linux distros |
| 00:03.17 | mindjuju | that was confusing, in the larger scheme of things, they're all FOSS, and that was the list i was mentioning |
| 00:03.18 | redroy | yeah, the distros stuff |
| 00:03.26 | redroy | ah |
| 00:03.35 | redroy | I'm going to have to do some reading up on this |
| 00:03.59 | mindjuju | fo sho, or better yet, download and go, pfsense practically takes care of itself |
| 00:04.18 | mindjuju | you do have to read up on to understand making firewall rules, etc |
| 00:04.40 | redroy | so would my library have to exist on that same box? |
| 00:04.47 | mindjuju | no |
| 00:05.04 | mindjuju | so, pfsense is a firewall, but it also has 3 different types of VPN |
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| 00:05.17 | redroy | awesome |
| 00:05.36 | mindjuju | and combine that with the fact that comcast rarely changes IPs on ya, you can vpn to your IP and now you're on your home network |
| 00:05.45 | mindjuju | or for extra gravy, get on dynadns |
| 00:06.22 | mindjuju | so, like a couple days ago i was doing a spot of research at school, was vpn at home listening to music, sent print jobs to home network printer and then left |
| 00:06.39 | mindjuju | got home, and there they were, hot and spanking fresh print outs of some stuff i needed |
| 00:07.10 | mindjuju | that's why i say, VPN rocks any where you are |
| 00:07.18 | mindjuju | public wifi? VPN home and get some privacy! |
| 00:07.25 | redroy | nice |
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| 01:59.22 | Adenn | sigh, too many names registered... |
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| 02:38.22 | Adenn | wb wps |
| 02:39.16 | wps | hi |
| 02:39.39 | Adenn | quiet room tonight :( |
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| 02:57.42 | herlo | usually is |
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| 03:06.16 | Adenn | guess I havent hung out here enough then... |
| 03:07.41 | ninnypants | it's not as busy at night |
| 03:09.18 | Adenn | thats understandable I guess |
| 03:10.18 | ninnypants | yeah so you just have to talk to the bots |
| 03:10.22 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 03:10.22 | raifbot | I named my left hand Chuck Norris and now it is my dominant hand. |
| 03:10.35 | Adenn | hehe |
| 03:11.21 | ninnypants | $8ball am I left handed now? |
| 03:11.21 | raifbot | ninnypants - Ask again later. |
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| 04:15.05 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 04:15.05 | raifbot | Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits. |
| 04:17.19 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: hows OALUG doin? |
| 04:17.47 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: good |
| 04:18.57 | carmony | I swear I'm going to make it one of these days |
| 04:19.44 | herlo | you know, GNOME3 isn't half bad |
| 04:22.42 | carmony | I saw a link about Gnome3 earlier today |
| 04:23.05 | herlo | it was released yesterday, iirc |
| 04:23.13 | herlo | Fedora 15 has it |
| 04:23.19 | herlo | well, the Beta |
| 04:23.28 | herlo | I'm using it right now |
| 04:24.06 | herlo | carmony: F15 also uses the new speedy systemd |
| 04:24.15 | herlo | makes the computer go 'FAST'!! |
| 04:24.20 | carmony | lol, nice |
| 04:24.30 | carmony | I've been debating the idea of having a "Linux coding machine" |
| 04:24.40 | herlo | boot up was under 10seconds on a liveSD card |
| 04:24.45 | carmony | maybe I should try it again |
| 04:24.59 | herlo | you should, but I will say Ubuntu doesn't have GNOME3 |
| 04:25.09 | herlo | it has some Unity thing. I haven't tried it |
| 04:25.24 | herlo | it's an Ubuntu only thing aiui |
| 04:25.59 | DexterTheDragon | sounds like they might drop to gnome 2.3i |
| 04:26.15 | DexterTheDragon | s/i$// |
| 04:26.22 | herlo | oh, noes! |
| 04:26.34 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: isn't 10.04 supposed to be out soon? |
| 04:26.40 | DexterTheDragon | 11.04 |
| 04:26.44 | herlo | er 11.04 |
| 04:26.44 | herlo | yeah |
| 04:26.44 | DexterTheDragon | end of april |
| 04:26.53 | herlo | coolness F15 is due end of may |
| 04:26.57 | DexterTheDragon | and it sounds like the beta with unity is sucking |
| 04:27.08 | herlo | GNOME3 is solid |
| 04:28.10 | cro | herlo: I heard that there were a few features missingâkind of like KDE in the transition to KDE 4. |
| 04:28.24 | herlo | cro: so far, I haven't missed anything |
| 04:28.33 | herlo | it's *very* different from Gnome2 though |
| 04:28.58 | herlo | I'm working on getting vlc working so I can watch a show or two. My video is awesome in it so far though |
| 04:29.06 | cro | cool |
| 04:30.27 | herlo | my network is *flying8 |
| 04:30.33 | herlo | s/8/*/ |
| 04:30.48 | herlo | in F14 is was probably 1/2 as fast |
| 05:05.31 | carmony | ok, I've updated my portfolio's a bit |
| 05:05.36 | carmony | now... to... work on another part |
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| 14:19.33 | josephscott | hello April snow |
| 14:25.58 | jsmith | josephscott: Gotta love it! |
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| 14:26.20 | josephscott | you can come take all you want from my front yard |
| 14:27.46 | romanovic | josephscott: you in utah? |
| 14:27.53 | josephscott | yep |
| 14:28.06 | romanovic | did it snow again? I thought it just snowed last weekend? |
| 14:28.14 | josephscott | it did |
| 14:28.19 | romanovic | wow |
| 14:28.19 | josephscott | and snowed again last night |
| 14:28.35 | josephscott | probably have 3 inches or so last night |
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| 14:34.42 | SunSparc | This is a link for mindjuju only, other click at their own peril: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCmi5loEBUk |
| 14:40.02 | josephscott | click through to the end - http://akismet.com/25billion/ |
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| 15:18.13 | beandog | Oh my gosh there are awesome pam modules out there. |
| 15:18.29 | herlo | beandog: like? |
| 15:18.44 | beandog | herlo: pam_ssh, pam_require is as far as I've gotten so far today |
| 15:19.00 | beandog | I'm using pam_require to limit SSH access to users in a group |
| 15:19.05 | beandog | *that* is *awesome* |
| 15:19.14 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 15:19.14 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can watch DVD's on a VCR |
| 15:19.23 | beandog | lol |
| 15:19.28 | herlo | beandog: yes, those are nice! pam_cracklib, pam_deny and pam_passwdqc (iirc) are my faves.. |
| 15:20.00 | beandog | herlo: oh yar? Ill check those too, thx |
| 15:20.11 | herlo | oh, checkout pam_limits too |
| 15:22.39 | beandog | herlo: okay |
| 15:22.41 | beandog | thanks |
| 15:26.30 | herlo | np, there're tons of good ones in /usr/share/doc/pam-<version> (not sure where they keep them in gentoo) |
| 15:32.53 | beandog | Okay Im a bit confused by what pam_ssh is supposed to accomplish |
| 15:34.10 | mindjuju | i use pam as a spray on oil usually for cooking a quick egg |
| 15:37.56 | macnewbold1 | $chuck-fact |
| 15:37.57 | raifbot | Chuck Norris is the reason why there's only one airbender left |
| 15:38.28 | josephscott | $8ball is it really Friday? |
| 15:38.28 | raifbot | josephscott - Better not tell you now. |
| 15:38.48 | mgeary | weeks go by so dang fast |
| 15:40.48 | mgeary | but i'm excited about getting some final skiing in this season. Found a $49 pass that will pay for itself 10x over in free skiing this season and next. woot |
| 15:41.55 | fungus | pam_opie, pam_yubico, pam_ldap, pam_mysql, pam_radius_auth |
| 15:42.08 | fungus | fun with authentication |
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| 15:46.06 | herlo | fungus: what is pam_opie? |
| 15:46.14 | herlo | I can guess the rest, or have used them |
| 15:46.15 | fungus | one time passwords |
| 15:46.16 | mgeary | opie is a one-time password generator |
| 15:46.26 | herlo | nice |
| 15:46.39 | herlo | I'll have to check that out |
| 15:48.08 | SunSparc | mindjuju: did you see my link? |
| 15:48.27 | mindjuju | i didn't |
| 15:48.35 | SunSparc | Scroll up |
| 15:49.52 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: http://imgur.com/gallery/VU73s |
| 15:50.25 | beandog | oh my lulz |
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| 15:53.49 | beandog | now I want kittehs |
| 15:53.55 | beandog | Okay so |
| 15:54.01 | beandog | Amazon Cloud Player is freaking awesome. |
| 15:56.48 | mgeary | beandog: elaborate, please |
| 15:57.09 | beandog | mgeary: You upload your MP3s |
| 15:57.17 | beandog | Amazon automatically sorts it by albums, artists |
| 15:57.18 | beandog | genres |
| 15:57.19 | beandog | Then |
| 15:57.22 | beandog | You can stream them anywhere |
| 15:57.29 | beandog | including my Android phone |
| 15:57.30 | beandog | :D |
| 15:57.31 | beandog | win |
| 15:57.41 | beandog | Plus they give you 5 GB storage free |
| 15:57.56 | herlo | Cloud Drive is nice |
| 15:58.04 | mgeary | i'd prefer to have something like that that i can run from my home |
| 15:58.09 | mgeary | where i have a 4.2 TB Drobo |
| 15:58.11 | beandog | That's the cool thing. You can upload *your* music files |
| 15:58.12 | herlo | it's what powers Amazon's Cloud Player |
| 15:58.45 | SunSparc | mgeary: check out AudioGalaxy |
| 15:58.53 | beandog | fungus: how in the world did I miss AllowGroups ... |
| 15:58.54 | herlo | mgeary: yes, but if you don't know how to setup access to your home from other places, like your phone and want to do that sort of thing, this is the tool... |
| 15:59.05 | beandog | Right. |
| 15:59.36 | herlo | yay! a Cookie! |
| 15:59.51 | beandog | I better not find that on ebay |
| 16:00.19 | herlo | aww |
| 16:00.28 | beandog | Of course the nice thing about pam_require is it lets you access more services than just SSH |
| 16:00.30 | beandog | So, yah |
| 16:00.46 | beandog | Oh man, Im so giddy by all these options |
| 16:00.47 | beandog | :D |
| 16:01.06 | fungus | oh of course. pam_require is still cool for other services. and is probably the right place to put authentication control anyway. |
| 16:01.36 | beandog | Yah thats what I was starting to think ... keep it all in one place |
| 16:01.49 | fungus | but ssh is special in that it handles authentication in other ways besides pam. |
| 16:02.10 | fungus | eg. if a user has an ssh key, the pam_require is never triggered. |
| 16:02.31 | beandog | fungus: Actually that's not the case. |
| 16:02.32 | beandog | er |
| 16:02.33 | beandog | wait. |
| 16:02.38 | beandog | You're right. You could bypass that. |
| 16:02.49 | beandog | UsePAM |
| 16:03.10 | fungus | the session modules are triggered by ssh if you use a key to authenticate, but no auth modules are triggered. |
| 16:03.50 | fungus | UsePAM means it provides an alternative to keys for auth by way of PAM |
| 16:04.17 | beandog | right |
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| 16:05.27 | beandog | Playing with PAM, I fully expect to completely lock myself at any moment here. |
| 16:05.51 | josephscott | beandog: everyone does at least once :-) |
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| 16:06.17 | fungus | hehe. yup |
| 16:06.39 | fungus | Just leave some service that allows logins in a safe setup while testing. |
| 16:07.02 | fungus | eg. don't touch login |
| 16:07.29 | beandog | I run dropbear on a separate port sometimes |
| 16:07.37 | fungus | that's a good idea too |
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| 16:17.17 | ninnypants | I'm back on just in case you needed anything |
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| 16:29.49 | influx | Harro. |
| 16:33.09 | ninnypants | hey influx |
| 16:33.28 | ninnypants | hmm just noticed I sent that last one in the wrong tab |
| 16:34.34 | influx | :) |
| 16:34.44 | ninnypants | anyone worked with stackable? |
| 16:34.55 | macnewbold1 | yeah, a bunch |
| 16:34.58 | macnewbold1 | awesome folks there |
| 16:36.00 | ninnypants | macnewbold: is there an easy way to import a DB through their dashboard or do I need to do it through ssh? |
| 16:37.01 | beandog | okay, I think I'm done with pam for the morning |
| 16:37.34 | Heartsbane | Wow that sounds dirty |
| 16:42.02 | influx | It does now. |
| 16:42.45 | ninnypants | yeah didn't think anything dirty until you said something |
| 16:45.39 | carmony | Heartsbane: LOL |
| 16:45.46 | carmony | Heartsbane: hey man, long time no see :P |
| 16:46.20 | macnewbold | ninnypants: I've always done it through ssh, though you can do it via something like phpmyadmin or a remote connection to the mysql server |
| 16:46.42 | macnewbold | $lart Heartsbane cause we miss him |
| 16:46.43 | raifbot | whips out a sword and chops Heartsbane cause we miss him in half. |
| 16:51.03 | ninnypants | macnewbold: ok that's what I figured |
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| 16:55.49 | mindjuju | sup xtrementl |
| 16:55.57 | mindjuju | long time no see |
| 16:56.28 | Heartsbane | K I am going to lunch .... you people should see me moar often |
| 16:56.28 | xtrementl | our work is moving to irc for our tech team chat.. so i figured i'd log into all my favorite channels again :) |
| 16:56.29 | xtrementl | how you been? |
| 16:56.32 | Heartsbane | later |
| 16:56.40 | macnewbold | nice |
| 16:56.45 | macnewbold | hi xtrementl |
| 16:56.53 | xtrementl | how are things, mac? |
| 16:56.58 | mindjuju | kickin' it, keeping it real |
| 16:57.23 | xtrementl | @mindjuju: where you working now? |
| 16:57.39 | mindjuju | costumecraze |
| 16:57.55 | xtrementl | kewl |
| 16:57.57 | mindjuju | you? |
| 16:58.15 | xtrementl | neutron interactive |
| 17:01.12 | influx | Is Jeff still there? |
| 17:01.22 | influx | Or Jason? |
| 17:02.05 | mindjuju | is felipe still there? |
| 17:02.05 | xtrementl | @influx: jason is. Jeff recently left for facebook |
| 17:02.27 | xtrementl | @mindjuju: if he was, it was before me |
| 17:02.39 | influx | No kidding. |
| 17:02.43 | influx | Wow. |
| 17:02.45 | mindjuju | oh that's too bad, he was funny |
| 17:02.46 | influx | Awesome. |
| 17:02.51 | mindjuju | what about bartholomew? |
| 17:03.10 | xtrementl | @mindjuju: same lol. have names for the nicks? |
| 17:03.31 | xtrementl | @influx: jeff's going to be an api integration engineer for Facebook's NYC office |
| 17:05.09 | influx | I'm sure he worked his butt off for it. |
| 17:05.22 | xtrementl | something like 80 hrs practicing for the interview problems haha |
| 17:08.29 | influx | Yeow. |
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| 17:35.20 | mindjuju | so i've been doing some research, if i want greasy fast speed and I can pick any size hdd i want (so capacity isn't a factor), I want drives in a RAID 1 config |
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| 17:49.53 | beandog | raid is fun |
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| 18:01.11 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 18:01.11 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can watch DVD's on a VCR |
| 18:01.54 | ninnypants | it would be more impressive if he could watch VHS on a DVD player |
| 18:08.17 | Utah_Dave | I just saw this chuckfact online: Chuck Norris once urinated into a Semi's gas tank... that truck is now called Optimus Prime. |
| 18:21.47 | influx | grr |
| 18:21.53 | influx | this query slows down the server quite a bit. |
| 18:23.44 | influx | http://pastebin.com/kErdcGF3 |
| 18:24.53 | influx | Would it make sense to run it once a day and update a new table with the new information instead? |
| 18:26.14 | Utah_Dave | influx: Have you already verified that it's using an index on all those joins? |
| 18:26.31 | Utah_Dave | I have a crazy query that I ended up having to run at night. |
| 18:27.20 | influx | Let's go with no, since I'm not quite sure what you mean. |
| 18:27.41 | influx | I've been piecing stuff together with help from #uphpu. |
| 18:28.32 | influx | Still a greenhorn with MySQL. |
| 18:29.09 | Utah_Dave | I'm not the awesomest at it either. Too bad josephscott isn't here now |
| 18:30.47 | influx | :) |
| 18:30.49 | Utah_Dave | This page seems to have a pretty good explanation |
| 18:30.49 | Utah_Dave | http://hackmysql.com/case4 |
| 18:31.01 | macnewbold | $chuck-fact |
| 18:31.01 | raifbot | If you have five dollars and Chuck Norris has five dollars, Chuck Norris has more money than you. |
| 18:31.08 | macnewbold | hehe i almost typoed that as $chick-fact |
| 18:31.14 | macnewbold | but that's a different list of facts alltogether |
| 18:32.19 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 18:32.20 | raifbot | Death once had a near-Chuck Norris experience |
| 18:32.23 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 18:32.23 | raifbot | A Handicap parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to Chuck Norris and that you will be handicapped if you park there. |
| 18:32.28 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 18:32.28 | raifbot | Chuck Norris built Rome in a day. |
| 18:32.32 | beandog | heh |
| 18:37.25 | beandog | MySQL privileges are hard to follow. |
| 18:37.26 | beandog | :T |
| 18:39.17 | beandog | Im not sure if what Im trying to do is even possible. Im trying to grant a user privilege to rw on only a few tables |
| 18:39.59 | Utah_Dave | beandog: sometimes I find it easier to use phpmyadmin to do that stuff. |
| 18:40.22 | beandog | Utah_Dave: yah, thats what Im using, and its not working. I set permissions on one table, but it's still letting the user rw the other ones. |
| 18:40.29 | beandog | No database privileges |
| 18:40.32 | beandog | Just table ones. |
| 18:41.08 | Utah_Dave | Hm. I haven't had any problems doing that. I have quite a few users that have read only and some tables and read/write on others. |
| 18:41.21 | beandog | Hmm |
| 18:42.12 | macnewbold | oh, i see what you're saying - if they have db privs already, that are broader than their table privs, the table privs won't matter |
| 18:42.50 | beandog | Well in this case, there are no db privs |
| 18:42.56 | beandog | or at least, so sayeth pma. |
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| 18:54.44 | beandog | Okay I got it |
| 18:54.52 | beandog | I was testing on the 'test' database, which has global rw privs anyway |
| 18:56.52 | mgeary | ~mock beandog |
| 18:56.52 | ibot | ACTION pulls beandog's pants down and shows the world beandog's pink spotted underwear |
| 18:57.25 | beandog | nice try, trollfart |
| 18:57.48 | beandog | ~forgive mgeary |
| 18:57.49 | ibot | Remember, it is better to forgive mgeary than to receive. |
| 18:58.24 | mgeary | it's better to forgive mgeary than just about anything |
| 18:59.05 | beandog | I'm not too handy with MySQL, sadly. |
| 18:59.06 | beandog | :T |
| 18:59.12 | beandog | privileges is one thing that trips me up |
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| 19:15.47 | redroy | Is the boogie-man chuck fact in the loop? That's my fav. |
| 19:16.00 | beandog | it is |
| 19:16.02 | mgeary | $chuck-fact |
| 19:16.03 | raifbot | Chuck Norris put the sword in the stone. |
| 19:16.07 | beandog | lol |
| 19:16.09 | beandog | that is awesome |
| 19:16.11 | redroy | haha |
| 19:21.40 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 19:21.41 | raifbot | Chuck Norris and Superman once fought each other on a bet. The loser had to start wearing his underwear on the outside of his pants. |
| 19:21.46 | beandog | lol |
| 19:21.52 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 19:21.52 | raifbot | Only one person cried when Chuck Norris was born and that was the doctor.... no one slaps Chuck Norris |
| 19:21.57 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 19:21.57 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can touch MC Hammer. |
| 19:22.02 | beandog | heh |
| 19:22.44 | beandog | Chuck Norris = Texas Ranger |
| 19:33.39 | influx | Can we add features to raifbot? |
| 19:38.20 | herlo | if we == josephscott, then yes |
| 19:38.36 | herlo | or you can write a patch and send it to the maintainer of raifbot, whoever that it |
| 19:38.40 | herlo | is |
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| 20:26.12 | mindjuju | i seem to be getting different numbers on SAS v SSD anybody know of a good benchmark on various tests? |
| 20:26.55 | beandog | does anybody know a way to track access logs on mysql |
| 20:30.41 | beandog | n/m |
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| 20:33.55 | _Ash | does anyone remember who posted a couple months ago that they are a registrar? I need to register a couple of domains and am SICK of godaddy's crap. |
| 20:36.22 | influx | Nice try, Bob Parsons. |
| 20:36.45 | xtrementl | anyone want to do some hunting in africa? |
| 20:38.08 | xtrementl | @mindjuju: what kinda electronica you listen to these days? |
| 20:38.31 | _Ash | c'mon, don't make me search the archives... |
| 20:38.38 | influx | xtrementl: Slayer. |
| 20:38.46 | influx | _Ash: I honestly don't know. Sorry, mate. |
| 20:39.15 | _Ash | np. |
| 20:47.58 | ninnypants | _Ash: it was SunSparc |
| 20:48.12 | ninnypants | I believe |
| 20:49.37 | _Ash | ok, I just sent a message to the list, so I'm sure someone will have their contact info there. |
| 20:50.03 | mindjuju | _Ash, ninnypants says it was sunsparc |
| 20:50.09 | redroy | How could you not love godaddy?! With all their amazing upsales! </sarcasm> |
| 20:50.16 | _Ash | haha |
| 20:50.29 | _Ash | yah, they are awesome. Just ask them. |
| 20:50.37 | josephscott | pretty sure no one in this channel is a domain registrar, someone might be re-selling though |
| 20:51.02 | mindjuju | ah josephscott, just the guy i was looking for |
| 20:51.44 | josephscott | I watched as we went through the process to register for that, big pain |
| 20:51.47 | josephscott | mindjuju: what's up? |
| 20:51.47 | mindjuju | i've heard you mention wp supercache as being good, liquidweb is saying that w3 total cache is THE wp recommended, am i remembering an old comment of yours or are they full of bunk? |
| 20:52.06 | josephscott | how shall I put this |
| 20:52.11 | mindjuju | heh |
| 20:52.25 | jsmith | josephscott: Blunty, please! |
| 20:52.25 | josephscott | w3 total cache does "a lot", kitchen sink style |
| 20:52.59 | josephscott | and for some specific cases it is way too aggressive and actually breaks some things |
| 20:53.27 | josephscott | and depending on your usage it may be doing quite a bit of extra work that you don't actually need |
| 20:53.54 | josephscott | wp super cache does one very specific thing - full page caching - and it does that pretty darn well |
| 20:54.19 | mindjuju | so i did remember that right, you prefer wp supercache |
| 20:54.35 | josephscott | pretty much any caching solution requires you to be aware of the server and network arrangement though |
| 20:54.48 | iammerrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.13 | josephscott | for some cases all that caching can actually make things worse, especially for some shared hosting setups |
| 20:55.39 | mindjuju | we have 3 wp installs, not multiseat install on this box |
| 20:55.45 | mindjuju | and about 4 additional non wp sites |
| 20:56.00 | mindjuju | i wonder if we'd gain a better advantage using APC ? |
| 20:56.06 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: I took me forever to get w3 total cache working properly |
| 20:56.14 | josephscott | APC is a different layer |
| 20:56.18 | DexterTheDragon | holy crap is it complicated |
| 20:56.30 | josephscott | well, w3tc sort of confuses that a bit :-) |
| 20:56.57 | josephscott | mindjuju: so for PHP sites you really, really need to run APC or some opcode cache. ask carmony what a different APC can make :-) |
| 20:57.03 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: are you still running it? |
| 20:57.25 | DexterTheDragon | yeah we set it up on the site we just did |
| 20:57.33 | DexterTheDragon | mostly cause it had s3 support |
| 20:57.38 | mindjuju | i remember him saying it was significant improvements running APC |
| 20:58.19 | mindjuju | so running APC would also help the WP installs though too, right? |
| 20:58.26 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: were you using S3 just for static resource hosting or managing media uploads as well? |
| 20:58.36 | josephscott | mindjuju: APC will help with all your PHP sites |
| 20:58.36 | mindjuju | would running APC and supercache be redundant ? |
| 20:58.40 | josephscott | no |
| 20:58.43 | mindjuju | k |
| 20:58.47 | josephscott | they do two different things |
| 20:58.48 | DexterTheDragon | managing media uploads |
| 20:59.09 | josephscott | cool, did you try the original S3 uploader plugin? |
| 20:59.25 | DexterTheDragon | I think we took a look at it |
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| 21:00.23 | josephscott | curious if anyone is running mod_pagespeed in production |
| 21:01.25 | wps | (seriously) |
| 21:01.27 | josephscott | hehe |
| 21:02.12 | josephscott | convincing people to take my suggestions even when they are free has been hard |
| 21:02.21 | macnewbold | $chuck-fact |
| 21:02.21 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can do a wheelie on a unicycle |
| 21:03.04 | wps | $chuck-fart |
| 21:03.07 | mindjuju | all streets are one way, Chuck Norris's |
| 21:03.07 | wps | whoops |
| 21:03.50 | Heartsbane | WTG on the chuck-fart |
| 21:04.03 | mindjuju | ~wtf wtg |
| 21:04.09 | mindjuju | yeah, me neither |
| 21:04.17 | Heartsbane | way to go |
| 21:04.18 | wps | what the goat? |
| 21:04.21 | wps | oh |
| 21:08.11 | josephscott | wps: if it is a public site, maybe I'll do a web performance talk for uphpu and use it as a live example |
| 21:08.24 | mindjuju | that would be awesome |
| 21:09.23 | mindjuju | if he can't, i'd let you use mine! ;) |
| 21:09.32 | wps | that'd be an awesome UPHPU presentation |
| 21:09.46 | wps | yes, it's public site |
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| 21:13.30 | beandog | wtg= way to go |
| 21:13.38 | beandog | oh |
| 21:13.39 | beandog | fail |
| 21:14.05 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: wtg |
| 21:14.15 | beandog | lol |
| 21:14.25 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: android tablet candidate for you http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/08/acer-iconia-tab-a500-features-honeycomb-1ghz-processor-450-price/ |
| 21:14.45 | josephscott | what gives with a brand new 3.0 android system not supporting flash? |
| 21:14.49 | DexterTheDragon | yeah was looking at the acer |
| 21:15.20 | josephscott | looks like not one of the 3.0 android devices supports flash |
| 21:15.29 | DexterTheDragon | been playing with an unreleased tablet here at work ;) |
| 21:16.03 | redroy | So, anyone here tried minecraft? Legos for adults, pretty freak'n awesome |
| 21:16.36 | DexterTheDragon | ummm Lego's for adults are Lego's |
| 21:16.47 | redroy | lol |
| 21:16.54 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: that deserves a retweet. |
| 21:17.09 | redroy | well⦠limitless legos then |
| 21:19.56 | carmony | lol |
| 21:20.03 | carmony | I have a minecraft server |
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| 21:21.04 | redroy | nice, I just set one up as well⦠I've got to take a break though⦠I'm dreaming in "blocks" |
| 21:21.06 | beandog | I have a LEGO server |
| 21:25.02 | josephscott | $lart the LEGO server |
| 21:25.03 | raifbot | pours gasoline all over the LEGO server, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze. |
| 21:26.19 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: oh, just found the perfect tablet for you! |
| 21:26.44 | josephscott | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/featured/asus/default.aspx |
| 21:27.11 | DexterTheDragon | scary |
| 21:28.43 | DexterTheDragon | and pricy |
| 21:30.00 | ninnypants | ooh I was looking at that a while back but it was running unbuntu I think |
| 21:30.13 | ninnypants | might not have been the slate though |
| 21:43.52 | ninnypants | woo only 100 more MB to finish uploading |
| 21:55.37 | beandog | oh sweet |
| 21:55.42 | beandog | I just found one of my bluray rips |
| 21:55.46 | beandog | woo |
| 21:55.58 | beandog | sitting in a random directory |
| 21:55.58 | beandog | woo |
| 22:06.09 | influx | ~woo |
| 22:06.09 | ibot | somebody said woo was woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot! |
| 22:18.01 | beandog | where do you go to recycle a monitor |
| 22:19.22 | cro | beandog: Wasatch Integrated Household Hazardous Waste Facility, takes "E-Waste" |
| 22:19.27 | beandog | http://www.stonecastlerecycling.com/utahlocaldropofflocations.html |
| 22:19.36 | beandog | maybe I'll just dump them in DexterTheDragon's flower bed |
| 22:21.52 | beandog | I hear lead filling is good for tulips |
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| 22:48.04 | redroy | Is it just me that see's a serial killer killing dragon when reading DTD's name? |
| 22:51.27 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:55.27 | josephscott | $8ball is DTD a bad guy? |
| 22:55.27 | raifbot | josephscott - Signs point to yes. |
| 22:55.32 | josephscott | $weather 84092 |
| 22:55.32 | raifbot | josephscott - current weather for 84092 - Cloudy 41f / 5c Humidity: 79% Wind: SW at 8 mph |
| 22:57.49 | mgeary | hey beandog |
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| 23:04.13 | beandog | mgeary: o hai |
| 23:05.12 | josephscott | http://opencompute.org/specs/Open_Compute_Project_AMD_Motherboard_v1.0.pdf |
| 23:05.20 | josephscott | 384GB of RAM supported |
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| 23:29.41 | SunSparc | Night all |
| 23:36.38 | mindjuju | wps, you around? |
| 23:37.17 | redroy | I'll cover for him... |
| 23:37.19 | redroy | jk |
| 23:37.24 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:37.39 | mindjuju | was going to ask him some questions about his qq on the mailing list |
| 23:38.27 | redroy | Yeah, just put it in column 'b'⦠it's easy. |
| 23:38.55 | redroy | I'm never any real help around here⦠so I have to fake it. |
| 23:39.01 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:40.42 | wps | I'm here, mindjuju |
| 23:40.49 | mindjuju | hey |
| 23:41.12 | mindjuju | i'm not sure that web service read files from remote a good idea, at my last job, we had pdfs from 50 - 100mb |
| 23:41.14 | mindjuju | no joke |
| 23:41.33 | mindjuju | is the content server, is it going to have anything running? |
| 23:41.36 | mindjuju | apache? |
| 23:41.51 | wps | good point, as it would have to read the entire file into memory |
| 23:41.53 | wps | yes, LAMP |
| 23:42.37 | mindjuju | i ask, because I did something similar where I had a primary web server, and then a seperate server in a internal location, almost the exact oppostite setup that you mention |
| 23:43.12 | wps | I just had a thought. What if I set it up such that Apache only served files from requests from certain IPs? |
| 23:43.18 | wps | that's possible, isn't it? |
| 23:43.25 | mindjuju | what i wound up doing is that when content went to the content server, I passed a GUID for it to both the web server and content server |
| 23:44.09 | mindjuju | hmm, butthen again, i wasn't afraid of internal people sharing the link out, might be a problem for you |
| 23:44.43 | wps | I've got to run, but I'd be interested in hearing more if you think of something |
| 23:44.51 | wps | thanks |
| 23:44.52 | mindjuju | k, i'll email to list |
| 23:44.53 | mindjuju | cya |
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