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| 01:02.23 | beandog | o hai |
| 01:02.34 | beandog | carmony: working late? |
| 01:03.26 | carmony | Data Center: "Ok, we've reloaded your machine after taking 8 hours. It's up and running." Me: "Ok, you know what would be useful, the credentials to log into the server, unless you want me to just ping the thing the entire time." |
| 01:04.18 | carmony | yup\ |
| 01:04.30 | beandog | carmony: me too! |
| 01:04.32 | beandog | whee |
| 01:04.40 | beandog | Of course, nothing has broken ... yet |
| 01:04.43 | beandog | Im crossing my fingers. |
| 01:04.54 | beandog | server reboot after 391 days uptime |
| 01:05.16 | beandog | the FS is encrypted, so my biggest fear is locking myself out. |
| 01:06.24 | beandog | its just me, the server, and a fridge full of pudding. |
| 01:06.38 | beandog | ooh and theres a projector in the conf. room. I should go play with that. |
| 01:29.44 | herlo | pudding! |
| 01:32.37 | carmony | omg... |
| 01:32.40 | carmony | I'm going to murder someone |
| 01:41.32 | beandog | carmony: what happened |
| 01:41.36 | beandog | my box wont boot for some reason. |
| 01:41.43 | beandog | the device nodes have disappeared, but it's got / mounted okay |
| 01:41.44 | beandog | Very odd. |
| 01:42.01 | beandog | And of course I dont have a livecd handy. |
| 01:42.17 | carmony | we had a DB Box, w/ a primary hdd and secondary hdd |
| 01:42.23 | carmony | the primary started to go bad |
| 01:42.29 | carmony | so to be safe, they replaced both HDDs |
| 01:42.40 | carmony | and mounted the old ones on there |
| 01:42.45 | carmony | our good DB backup drive is missing |
| 01:42.57 | beandog | buh :@ |
| 01:43.00 | carmony | and some dude name fuk's bittornent and porn is there instead |
| 01:44.05 | beandog | the case of the missing harddrive |
| 01:44.42 | beandog | porn at work == someone is always going to find out |
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| 02:26.49 | carmony | ok |
| 02:26.53 | carmony | hdd found |
| 02:26.58 | carmony | in the correct place |
| 02:27.07 | carmony | </heart_attack> |
| 02:32.09 | herlo | beandog: not if you tunnel it over ssh :) |
| 02:32.24 | herlo | and use private browsing! |
| 02:39.51 | beandog | heh |
| 02:39.57 | beandog | I just got my server to boot |
| 02:39.59 | beandog | \o/ |
| 02:40.06 | beandog | Couldnt figure out what it was ... I had the kernel loading the old syfs |
| 02:40.30 | beandog | It's running fsck on a 1GB raided fs, so I might be here awhile ... |
| 02:40.35 | beandog | er, 1TB |
| 02:41.26 | beandog | thank goodness for reddit. |
| 02:45.44 | beandog | man its almost 9? |
| 02:45.51 | beandog | Now I dont feel so bad for leaving this morning to go home and take a nap. |
| 02:45.52 | herlo | yep |
| 02:46.28 | beandog | I wonder if should txt my boss and tell him how awesome I am. |
| 02:46.32 | beandog | fsck is at 15% |
| 02:46.33 | beandog | le sigh. |
| 02:47.20 | beandog | herlo: what you up to this eve |
| 02:47.21 | herlo | beandog: what fs? |
| 02:47.23 | beandog | herlo: ext3 |
| 02:47.32 | beandog | I have /var raided |
| 02:47.37 | herlo | beandog: wow, must be a really fsck'd filesystem |
| 02:47.39 | beandog | mysql, home is on there. |
| 02:47.46 | beandog | herlo: it's just large. 1 terabyte |
| 02:47.51 | herlo | no |
| 02:47.58 | herlo | ext3 is a journaled fs |
| 02:48.05 | herlo | shouldn't take that long ot play back a journal |
| 02:48.47 | beandog | it does |
| 02:50.23 | herlo | are you sure it's not doing a deeper fsck? |
| 02:50.27 | herlo | like did you do a -y? |
| 02:50.36 | herlo | or -f |
| 02:50.39 | beandog | Oh I dunno. Gentoo does that on boot when it hasnt been moutned in a long time |
| 02:50.42 | beandog | In this case, a year and a half |
| 02:50.49 | beandog | er, not mounted. checked. |
| 02:51.00 | herlo | oh, yeah, it's a deep fsck |
| 02:51.10 | herlo | that's standard on *every* distro, not just Gentoo |
| 02:51.20 | beandog | fstab settings? |
| 02:51.24 | herlo | no |
| 02:51.32 | beandog | cant you turn it off there though? |
| 02:51.34 | herlo | well, that and the fs settings |
| 02:51.42 | beandog | right |
| 02:51.46 | beandog | I just go with defaults |
| 02:51.47 | herlo | tune2fs -l /dev/sdb1 or whatever device |
| 02:51.55 | herlo | as you should |
| 02:52.01 | beandog | yah |
| 02:52.05 | beandog | You know what my big thing is now? |
| 02:52.06 | herlo | they are good, I was just wondering why it was taking so long |
| 02:52.12 | beandog | labelling all my partitions and mounting them that way. |
| 02:52.14 | herlo | I've fsck'd a 2TB LVM faster |
| 02:52.22 | herlo | but it wasn't a deep fsck |
| 02:52.26 | beandog | Ive had really bad luck with LVM |
| 02:52.34 | herlo | beandog: I'd suggest UUID, not labels |
| 02:52.39 | beandog | whys that |
| 02:52.41 | herlo | blkid is a great tool |
| 02:52.42 | beandog | Either one is good |
| 02:52.45 | beandog | blkid has them both |
| 02:52.47 | herlo | beandog: UUID is *always* guaranteed |
| 02:52.50 | beandog | herlo: true. |
| 02:52.56 | herlo | but if someone creates the same label as you, who knows which is mounted? |
| 02:53.03 | beandog | meh |
| 02:53.07 | beandog | low chance. |
| 02:53.08 | herlo | just saing |
| 02:53.13 | beandog | you're right, of course. |
| 02:53.19 | herlo | s/ai/ay/ |
| 02:53.24 | herlo | s/ai/ayi/ |
| 02:53.28 | herlo | hehe |
| 02:53.42 | herlo | but if you think it won't happen, it will |
| 02:54.37 | beandog | aint that the way. |
| 02:54.55 | herlo | :) |
| 02:55.06 | herlo | it's why best practices were created imo |
| 02:55.30 | herlo | beandog: btw, what I've been up to today, is creating this: http://projects.purpleatom.com/pycamps/index.html |
| 02:55.52 | herlo | beandog: and I've been publishing recorded meetings from UtahPython, OALUG and eventually, UPHPU |
| 02:56.07 | herlo | oh, and the first UTOSC presentation went up the other day |
| 02:56.22 | herlo | though I'm working on redoing the intro stuff |
| 02:57.40 | beandog | right on man |
| 02:57.41 | beandog | :) |
| 02:57.44 | beandog | you have cool projects. |
| 02:57.52 | beandog | well, I do too, actually. |
| 02:58.14 | beandog | well, I did |
| 02:58.17 | beandog | I dont work on em much anymore. |
| 02:58.24 | beandog | 73% |
| 02:59.09 | herlo | not bad |
| 02:59.12 | herlo | beandog: that reminds me |
| 02:59.26 | herlo | I was hacking away at a video last nigth |
| 02:59.50 | herlo | but no matter what I did with mencoder, I couldn't get it to split the audio and video at the right spot and get a good result |
| 02:59.53 | herlo | got some tips for me? |
| 03:01.04 | beandog | herlo: handbrake |
| 03:01.13 | herlo | beandog: don't have Mac |
| 03:01.20 | beandog | herlo: it works on linux/windows |
| 03:01.28 | herlo | is it free? |
| 03:01.32 | beandog | Yah |
| 03:01.33 | beandog | GPL |
| 03:01.40 | herlo | whoah! |
| 03:01.52 | beandog | herlo: you missed my uphpu presentation |
| 03:01.56 | beandog | I went into it in some depth |
| 03:02.29 | herlo | beandog: yeah, i was at UtahPython, since we had to push it back one week |
| 03:02.36 | beandog | herlo: yah I heard about that. |
| 03:02.39 | beandog | that's cool. |
| 03:02.46 | herlo | I would have been there, otherwise |
| 03:02.48 | beandog | One of our devs here at work is looking at django |
| 03:02.50 | beandog | He says he likes it |
| 03:02.56 | herlo | it's a cool framework |
| 03:03.32 | beandog | Id love it if we branched out to other langs |
| 03:04.44 | herlo | beandog: but that makes no sense |
| 03:04.51 | beandog | hows that |
| 03:04.59 | herlo | it's u PHP u |
| 03:05.07 | beandog | oh, I meant here at work. |
| 03:05.14 | herlo | beandog: ahh, haha, okay! |
| 03:06.17 | beandog | server's back up :D |
| 03:06.50 | herlo | yay |
| 03:07.51 | carmony | herlo: where are crontab's stored? |
| 03:09.21 | herlo | carmony: depends |
| 03:09.36 | carmony | ubuntu root |
| 03:09.45 | herlo | carmony: if you are talking about a user's crontab, you can really only access them by crontab -e |
| 03:09.49 | herlo | crontab -l |
| 03:09.51 | herlo | and crontab -r |
| 03:10.02 | herlo | -e is edit, -l is list and -r is remove |
| 03:10.08 | herlo | however, there is also a system crontab |
| 03:10.19 | carmony | so I can't tell on a old hdd what the crontab |
| 03:10.35 | carmony | for a user was |
| 03:10.41 | herlo | it's located in /etc/cron.d /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} and is controlled by /etc/crontab |
| 03:10.59 | herlo | carmony: if it's for root, try running 'crontab -l' |
| 03:11.02 | herlo | as root |
| 03:11.15 | herlo | if you are on ubuntu, you can become root by running 'sudo -i' |
| 03:11.17 | carmony | yeah, but the old hdd is mounted as a secondary drive |
| 03:11.21 | herlo | oh |
| 03:11.33 | herlo | hng on |
| 03:12.37 | herlo | carmony: /var/spool/cron/ |
| 03:12.42 | herlo | best guess |
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| 03:16.18 | beandog | carmony: /var/spool/cron |
| 03:16.29 | beandog | but you should use crontab -eu <user> |
| 03:16.45 | herlo | beandog: that's what I said :) |
| 03:22.44 | beandog | yah I was in the server room |
| 03:23.08 | carmony | herlo: could I call you for a quick second? |
| 03:26.23 | beandog | upgrading openssl. |
| 03:26.26 | beandog | Im going to regret this. |
| 03:30.28 | herlo | heh |
| 03:31.27 | beandog | case in point, I just broke wget. |
| 03:31.47 | beandog | oh wait, no I didn't |
| 03:32.19 | beandog | man I dont know what it is about this server .. its a few years old, but my gosh it is FAST |
| 03:32.22 | beandog | Its probably the harddrives. |
| 03:33.05 | beandog | why do we have rpm installed on here.. |
| 03:35.18 | beandog | I am going to regret this. |
| 03:35.27 | beandog | reinstall php, mysql, postgres ... eek |
| 03:35.33 | beandog | good thing I dont have a hawt date tonight. |
| 03:35.53 | herlo | yup :) |
| 03:38.27 | beandog | 42 jobs to complete. Oy. |
| 03:38.41 | beandog | That was really dumb. |
| 03:39.02 | beandog | I wonder if I can stream netflix on my mac. |
| 03:39.06 | beandog | I bet I can. |
| 03:39.14 | beandog | Ill watch Quantum Leap! |
| 03:39.35 | beandog | suddently things just go so much better. |
| 03:41.10 | beandog | if I could just remember my password. |
| 03:45.57 | beandog | man the sound on this mac is nice. |
| 03:46.07 | beandog | Im impressed. |
| 04:10.37 | herlo | carmony: how's it going? |
| 04:10.47 | herlo | copy work? |
| 04:10.52 | carmony | still going |
| 04:10.54 | carmony | its 60 gb |
| 04:10.55 | carmony | :P |
| 04:13.34 | beandog | what you doing? |
| 04:14.09 | herlo | carmony: that's good |
| 04:14.17 | herlo | beandog: he's copying from a dead-ish drive |
| 04:14.30 | beandog | oh noes |
| 04:15.16 | herlo | I told him dd would be a good thing to try, that's how desperate of an issue it could be |
| 04:17.14 | beandog | yah |
| 04:17.16 | beandog | that or ddrescue. |
| 04:26.44 | beandog | oh, man |
| 04:26.59 | herlo | beandog: so I got handbrake installed |
| 04:27.09 | beandog | yah? |
| 04:27.13 | beandog | it has a gui and a cli app |
| 04:27.18 | herlo | ya, they have a F14 app |
| 04:27.26 | herlo | so, how do I split? |
| 04:27.33 | beandog | oh you need to split? |
| 04:27.33 | beandog | whoops. |
| 04:27.39 | herlo | beandog: haha |
| 04:27.42 | herlo | nice work |
| 04:27.46 | beandog | herlo: what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 04:28.02 | herlo | beandog: I want to cut off the first 77 seconds of the video |
| 04:28.10 | herlo | but mencoder doesn't do it right |
| 04:28.21 | beandog | oh okay |
| 04:28.29 | herlo | can I do that with handbrake? |
| 04:28.42 | beandog | no |
| 04:28.44 | beandog | but avidemux can |
| 04:28.45 | beandog | or ffmpeg |
| 04:28.57 | herlo | ffmpeg can't |
| 04:29.06 | beandog | it should |
| 04:29.07 | herlo | I've tried |
| 04:29.11 | beandog | you just tell it to seek to <pos> |
| 04:29.14 | herlo | no, it doesn't cut an ogg right |
| 04:29.15 | beandog | and dump the rest |
| 04:29.18 | herlo | beandog: yes, I know |
| 04:29.20 | herlo | doesn't work |
| 04:29.22 | beandog | oh, okay. |
| 04:29.23 | beandog | :T |
| 04:29.25 | beandog | well thats odd. |
| 04:29.30 | beandog | what type of video is it |
| 04:29.33 | beandog | whats the video codec |
| 04:29.38 | herlo | 22:29 <+herlo> no, it doesn't cut an ogg right |
| 04:29.42 | herlo | theora |
| 04:30.35 | beandog | Hmm. |
| 04:30.42 | beandog | Well ogg could be .ogm or theora. |
| 04:31.06 | herlo | no |
| 04:31.09 | herlo | it shouldn't |
| 04:31.21 | herlo | beandog: an ogg can be just .ogg |
| 04:31.31 | beandog | Well that's ambigious too |
| 04:31.34 | beandog | Ogg is a container format |
| 04:31.38 | herlo | yes, I know |
| 04:31.40 | beandog | Which means it could be Vorbis, FLAC, etc. |
| 04:31.52 | herlo | it's theora, with vorbis audio in an ogg container with a .ogg extension |
| 04:31.52 | beandog | anyway |
| 04:31.55 | herlo | is that clearer? |
| 04:31.57 | beandog | heh |
| 04:31.58 | beandog | :) |
| 04:32.01 | beandog | yah it is. |
| 04:32.06 | herlo | I said that up front, but whatever |
| 04:32.09 | beandog | sorry |
| 04:32.14 | beandog | so have you tried avidemux |
| 04:32.34 | herlo | no, but I've tried gstreamer, ffmpeg and a few others |
| 04:32.38 | herlo | I can try avidemux |
| 04:32.56 | herlo | cli or gui? |
| 04:33.02 | beandog | herlo: gui |
| 04:33.06 | herlo | kk |
| 04:33.07 | beandog | I dunno though, if the others didnt work |
| 04:33.10 | beandog | I dont think it'll magically work |
| 04:33.12 | herlo | installing now |
| 04:33.12 | beandog | they all use ffmpeg. |
| 04:33.24 | herlo | MLT framework doesn't. Supposedly |
| 04:33.36 | herlo | but openshot, which uses MLT, doesn't have that functionality |
| 04:35.12 | herlo | beandog: so, I have avidemux installed :) |
| 04:35.17 | herlo | going to try to tinker |
| 04:35.21 | beandog | herlo: okay |
| 04:36.34 | herlo | Attempt to open /home/clints/Videos/utos2010/good/2010-10-07_-_1129_-_MFEC101_-_Jerome_Horowitz_-_Experience_Publishing_with_Open_Source_processed.ogg failed! |
| 04:36.39 | herlo | boo! |
| 04:46.32 | beandog | sorry herlo |
| 04:46.35 | beandog | Okay Im off for the night |
| 04:46.36 | beandog | good luck carmony |
| 04:53.24 | herlo | nn |
| 04:53.32 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 04:53.32 | raifbot | Chuck Norris does not get frostbite. Chuck Norris bites frost. |
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| 07:01.20 | influx | In MySQL, is there a way to only update a value if the value a person is trying to insert is new? |
| 07:01.32 | influx | s/different/new/ |
| 07:01.43 | influx | s/different/new?/ |
| 07:01.45 | influx | bleh |
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| 09:10.59 | carmony | herlo: you wouldn't happen to be awake would you? |
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| 15:49.19 | herlo | carmony: sorry, fell asleep long ago |
| 15:49.31 | herlo | I should be around some this morning, however |
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| 15:59.12 | josephscott | $8ball will it snow during April? |
| 15:59.13 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes - definitely. |
| 15:59.23 | herlo | dammit! |
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| 16:58.27 | safzouf | Hi all |
| 16:58.48 | safzouf | did anyone used implemented a paybox payement? |
| 17:02.19 | safzouf | hii |
| 17:03.10 | herlo | safzouf: you might wish to try back during a weekday Mountain Time |
| 17:03.23 | herlo | I haven't done what you suggest, but others may have |
| 17:03.45 | herlo | but most folks are not here on weekends, and especially not this weekend |
| 17:04.24 | safzouf | emm I see |
| 17:04.36 | safzouf | but its urgent |
| 17:05.34 | herlo | safzouf: that's not how IRC works |
| 17:06.27 | safzouf | so I need to wait until monday? |
| 17:07.11 | herlo | not necessarily, maybe join the mailing list on uphpu.org? |
| 17:07.57 | safzouf | haw can join the mailing list? |
| 17:08.08 | herlo | safzouf: uphpu.org |
| 17:09.25 | safzouf | thanks |
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| 17:12.24 | safzouf_ | Hi everybody :) |
| 17:12.46 | safzouf_ | did anyone implemented Paybox ? |
| 17:13.12 | herlo | srsly? |
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| 19:39.54 | romanovic | heh :) |
| 19:43.39 | romanovic | something entertaining always happens when I look in on conference weekends. |
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