| 00:16.27 | macnewbold | herlo: you're welcome to tell him yes, but we have dibs on 3rd thursdays there :) |
| 00:16.37 | macnewbold | unless we're combining uphpu with utah python for meetings |
| 00:17.30 | herlo | macnewbold: we're the second thursday, no conflict |
| 00:18.09 | Heartsbane | http://vimeo.com/20605470 <--- if anyone is interested in the ZeroMQ (0MQ) PHP extension Presentation |
| 00:37.32 | macnewbold | oh, good |
| 00:37.54 | macnewbold | Heartsbane: what does the 0mq extension do? i haven't heard of it |
| 00:38.22 | herlo | macnewbold: it's a messaging queue |
| 00:38.26 | herlo | like AMQP probably |
| 00:38.31 | macnewbold | ah |
| 00:59.02 | Heartsbane | yep |
| 00:59.12 | Heartsbane | Sorry I busy fooding |
| 00:59.31 | Heartsbane | s/I/I was/ |
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| 02:47.46 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 02:47.47 | raifbot | Chuck Norris' hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush. |
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| 16:36.26 | mindjuju | way cool! petite lap giraffes! http://www.petitelapgiraffe.com/index.php |
| 16:36.39 | mgeary | anyone here running wireshark on OS X? |
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| 16:38.39 | fungus | Not running it right now, but it's installed |
| 16:39.08 | mgeary | fungus: i've had some issues getting it going properly |
| 16:39.48 | fungus | do you have X11 installed? |
| 16:39.48 | fungus | is it launching? |
| 16:39.54 | mgeary | yes to both |
| 16:39.56 | mgeary | one sec. launching it |
| 16:42.00 | mgeary | so, the main UI comes up, and i click on Interface List, and am told there aren't any |
| 16:51.41 | fungus | oh yeah, forgot about that. you need permission to the /dev/bpf* devices |
| 16:53.22 | fungus | See the Utilities/ChmodBPF folder in the install image for auto permission change on boot |
| 16:54.38 | fungus | Joseph Hall wrote this up a while ago. Just scroll past the PHP errors. |
| 16:54.39 | fungus | http://josephhall.org/nqb2/index.php/2009/07/21/wrshrkinstll |
| 17:13.14 | carmony | you know what we should do for uphpu? Some type of card people can hand out to others: http://www.flickr.com/photos/benandliz/5580126062/ |
| 17:15.00 | herlo | carmony: simple enough, ask mindjuju to have UTOS fund them :) |
| 17:19.31 | josephscott | are we solid on moving the location to C7? |
| 17:21.07 | macnewbold | its looking good - i have heard of 0.5 objections to the move |
| 17:21.13 | macnewbold | and quite a few in favor |
| 17:21.28 | mastergunns | ooh, I'm all for the card, looks nice |
| 17:22.05 | macnewbold | yeah, those would be dope |
| 17:22.39 | macnewbold | if we got together with the other LUGs/UGs involved in UTOS, we could probably do a run of 500-1000 cards each for a few hundred bucks |
| 17:22.50 | macnewbold | or even print up some hokey free cards at vistaprint.com or something |
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| 17:28.35 | SunSparc | Did I miss all the mindjuju April Fools links yet? |
| 17:32.10 | macnewbold | only link he's posted today is http://www.petitelapgiraffe.com/ I think |
| 17:32.35 | macnewbold | Google launched a new thing too, like Kinect for Gmail kind of - http://gmail.com/motion/ |
| 17:32.46 | macnewbold | i was expecting a rickroll |
| 17:32.49 | macnewbold | but no such luck yet |
| 17:32.52 | carmony | lol |
| 17:33.00 | carmony | did you see the autocompletion job posting |
| 17:33.02 | carmony | ? |
| 17:33.36 | carmony | josephscott: and what is this about moving locations to C7? For what? |
| 17:34.05 | josephscott | center7 at point of the mountain said they'd host UPHP and food |
| 17:34.17 | josephscott | at least that is what macnewbold said :-) |
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| 17:35.03 | SunSparc | Free food and closer to my house. Woot! |
| 17:40.07 | mgeary | bring the kids |
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| 17:41.07 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:43.52 | mindjuju | k, i'm back |
| 17:43.56 | mindjuju | what up yo |
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| 17:48.17 | carmony | the bluffdale location? |
| 17:48.49 | mindjuju | i think bluffdale is that spot between thanksgiving point and ext 123000 where it's just dead space |
| 17:49.14 | mgeary | okay, fungus, i'm back on Wireshark. So i now see a list of interfaces, but when i select en0, and then hit a web page, nothing appears to be captured |
| 17:49.40 | mgeary | any insights? |
| 17:49.58 | mgeary | carmony: it's just barely past the gravel operation, on the west side of the freeway |
| 17:50.14 | mgeary | well, just *north* of the gravel operation, i should say |
| 17:50.28 | carmony | yeah, not their downtown location |
| 17:50.56 | carmony | so it's be two more exits down from the old BGM location |
| 17:53.47 | carmony | ok, wtfzors... how long does it take to boot a server into single user mode? |
| 17:53.50 | mindjuju | @carmony, yup |
| 17:54.42 | mindjuju | @carmony - don't let these guys fool you though with their euphemisms, it really is desert wasteland out there |
| 17:54.57 | carmony | lol |
| 17:55.17 | mindjuju | totally serious! tumbleweeds, the whole nine yards |
| 17:55.57 | carmony | I've been wating for 30 minutes for LT to bring up our server again.... grrrarg |
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| 17:59.35 | mindjuju | i hate when I have a server down and every moment feels like an eternity |
| 17:59.46 | influx | Every moment is an eternity. |
| 18:00.03 | mindjuju | deep influx, real deep |
| 18:00.29 | influx | *snap snap* |
| 18:00.32 | carmony | every second that goes by makes me feel like something is more and more wrong |
| 18:00.54 | mindjuju | like sands in an hourglass, so are the days of our lives |
| 18:01.53 | carmony | lol |
| 18:02.05 | carmony | ok, I'm ordering a steak sandwhich and |
| 18:02.10 | carmony | wings for lunch |
| 18:02.12 | carmony | :P |
| 18:02.25 | mindjuju | i'm going over there |
| 18:09.41 | carmony | ok |
| 18:10.47 | carmony | ok, if I wanted to see why two services would hang my machine on startup |
| 18:10.53 | carmony | where would I look? |
| 18:10.53 | carmony | :P |
| 18:11.17 | mindjuju | error log? |
| 18:12.18 | unum | as in both services hang independently? |
| 18:12.52 | unum | well any ways mindjuju is right I would look at the system log and any logging for the individual sercie |
| 18:13.12 | unum | are they hanging it such that it can't boot, or just such that it takes longer |
| 18:14.05 | carmony | can't boot |
| 18:14.17 | carmony | the data center threw it up in single user mode |
| 18:14.19 | carmony | on a kvm |
| 18:15.08 | mindjuju | too bad herlo / fungus aren't around, they give great advice |
| 18:15.30 | mindjuju | what services are they? |
| 18:16.42 | carmony | mysqld fails |
| 18:16.46 | carmony | and nagios-npre hangs |
| 18:16.55 | mindjuju | i think if it were me, if this were a production server and it was 100% down without this server, I would disable the less important of the two, get the server back up to some level of functionality |
| 18:16.57 | mindjuju | and then go from there |
| 18:18.11 | carmony | yeah, we're 100% down |
| 18:18.11 | carmony | lol |
| 18:18.30 | mindjuju | yeah, it were me, i'd kill nrpe and get mysql back online |
| 18:18.47 | mindjuju | for what its worth, i enabled npre on a production server that iddn't have it before witout a reboot |
| 18:18.55 | mindjuju | maybe bringing it back online won't need a restart either |
| 18:20.37 | carmony | arg, what an idiot, the OS has gone into read-only |
| 18:20.41 | carmony | for the HDD |
| 18:23.30 | mgeary | fungus: do you have any insights into my Wireshark issue? I've even tried launching it with sudo, but it still doesn't capture anything |
| 18:24.19 | fungus | are there any filters specified in the filter box? are you sure it's en0 and not en1? |
| 18:25.06 | mgeary | i'm sure it's en0 |
| 18:26.11 | mgeary | i've currently got filter: http in the filter dropdown box |
| 18:27.15 | fungus | Wireshark has two filters: capture, and display. they use different syntaxes |
| 18:27.41 | mgeary | just relaunched it. no filters appear to be applied currently |
| 18:27.57 | fungus | hit the capture options to see the capture filter |
| 18:28.53 | mgeary | hmm. well, check this out |
| 18:29.18 | mgeary | i hit the Capture interface button (first one on the left in the capture screen), and it doesn't list an IP next to en0 |
| 18:29.20 | mgeary | should it? |
| 18:29.55 | fungus | yes |
| 18:30.10 | fungus | run ifconfig to verify |
| 18:30.17 | mgeary | it says 'unknown' |
| 18:30.34 | mgeary | aha |
| 18:30.47 | mgeary | heh |
| 18:30.49 | mgeary | okay then |
| 18:31.02 | mgeary | looks like it's en1 on my machine |
| 18:31.04 | mgeary | go figure |
| 18:31.13 | fungus | hehe |
| 18:31.31 | mgeary | that's weird |
| 18:31.42 | mgeary | i wonder if that's why my wifi card doesn't work in this machine |
| 18:41.36 | carmony | fungus: okay, I need some major help :P |
| 18:42.08 | fungus | What's up? |
| 18:42.24 | carmony | fungus: pm |
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| 20:03.38 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: +1 for the C7 Bluffdale meeting location! |
| 20:07.34 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 20:07.35 | raifbot | gives wps a good seeing to. |
| 20:07.53 | mindjuju | i've seen a lot of talk about the c7 location, what does macnewbold say? |
| 20:08.13 | wps | mac likes it |
| 20:08.47 | influx | c7? |
| 20:08.57 | wps | old LinuxNetworx building |
| 20:09.04 | influx | Why the move? |
| 20:09.11 | mindjuju | uphpu returns to linuxnetworx? |
| 20:09.18 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 20:09.21 | wps | yeah |
| 20:09.25 | wps | influx: they offered |
| 20:09.30 | influx | Ah. |
| 20:09.33 | wps | it seems to be better for more people |
| 20:09.40 | influx | Understood. |
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| 20:32.18 | macnewbold | influx, what's your vote on the move? in favor, against, or neutral? |
| 20:36.39 | influx | What's the address for C7? |
| 20:36.50 | influx | Going to look it up on Google Maps. |
| 20:36.53 | herlo | influx: 14600 S and freeway |
| 20:36.56 | herlo | give or take |
| 20:39.14 | influx | -1 |
| 20:39.22 | mindjuju | the truth of the matter influx is that no person from SLC will go into the UC for a meet, or let's say at best rarely; and the converse is true, no person from the UC go to the SLC for a meet, or at best; rarely. linuxnetworx was this curiosity as it was on the point of the mountain and people from both places would go there |
| 20:39.42 | fungus | http://www.c7dc.com/facilities/bluffdale-utah.htm |
| 20:40.28 | influx | Thanks, fungus. |
| 20:41.04 | influx | mindjuju: I understand. |
| 20:41.26 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:47.31 | carmony | macnewbold: I vote in favor to help the people in UC :P |
| 20:50.44 | macnewbold | carpooling happened to a degree too |
| 20:50.58 | macnewbold | fungus and i used to travel together to/from since we were both in the same place in salt lake |
| 20:52.46 | macnewbold | eventually it will be right by the front runner station |
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| 23:05.29 | mindjuju | darn it, apparently mounting a cd on ubuntu via console is harder than i thought |
| 23:05.32 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 23:09.28 | fungus | mkdir /media/cdrom && mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom |
| 23:09.44 | mindjuju | i wish |
| 23:10.03 | mindjuju | i did that in 2 steps, i'm not as elite as you, but that failed |
| 23:10.07 | mindjuju | it's giving me this |
| 23:10.22 | mindjuju | victor@fileserver:/dev$ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /tmpDrive |
| 23:10.23 | mindjuju | mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device |
| 23:10.33 | fungus | lol, oops |
| 23:10.45 | mindjuju | what did i do? |
| 23:11.01 | fungus | It doesn't have a CD drive? |
| 23:11.28 | mindjuju | it does |
| 23:11.30 | fungus | dmesg | grep sr |
| 23:11.33 | mindjuju | i've also said this to the comp |
| 23:11.35 | mindjuju | victor@fileserver:/dev$ dmesg | grep sr0 |
| 23:11.35 | mindjuju | [ 1.313358] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray |
| 23:11.35 | mindjuju | [ 1.313632] sr 1:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 |
| 23:11.50 | mindjuju | so, before you say, i did that too |
| 23:11.55 | fungus | lol |
| 23:11.59 | mindjuju | victor@fileserver:/dev$ sudo mount /dev/sr0 /tmpDrive |
| 23:12.00 | mindjuju | mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device |
| 23:12.20 | mindjuju | pesky, huh? |
| 23:12.26 | fungus | ick |
| 23:19.08 | mindjuju | well, i learned some thing fungus, but i don't think this is going to work from remote |
| 23:19.14 | mindjuju | it's likely some kind of hardware issue |
| 23:19.24 | fungus | Yeah, that's what I thought |
| 23:19.34 | mindjuju | i did all the things from this page |
| 23:19.35 | mindjuju | http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1137620 |
| 23:19.45 | mindjuju | learned some cool things about how to dump info on the drive |
| 23:19.55 | mindjuju | like this |
| 23:19.56 | mindjuju | sudo hdparm -I /dev/sr0Â |
| 23:20.01 | mindjuju | that's cool! ^^ |
| 23:21.30 | cro | mindjuju: can you just transfer an ISO of the CD over to the machine and mount it that way? |
| 23:24.40 | mindjuju | funny you say that cro, i moved a cd over to this computer so i could make an iso to transfer to a winders box |
| 23:24.43 | mindjuju | :( |
| 23:24.54 | mindjuju | irony, a healthy part of life |
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