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| 01:22.46 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 01:22.46 | raifbot | send killer squirrels to attack mastergunns. |
| 01:34.16 | mastergunns | ouch, I've lost enough of my hind end this week. |
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| 02:07.28 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 02:08.51 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit mindjuju |
| 02:08.51 | ibot | ACTION stikes at mindjuju with the evil rooster chop blinding mindjuju in one eye! |
| 02:08.59 | mindjuju | thx DtD! |
| 02:09.06 | mindjuju | how was your bachelor dinner? |
| 02:09.17 | DexterTheDragon | awesome |
| 02:09.47 | mindjuju | so, i'm trying to make NRPE for nagios |
| 02:10.08 | mindjuju | and i've ./configure, but when I make all |
| 02:10.19 | mindjuju | it comes back, nothing to be done for "all" |
| 02:10.25 | mindjuju | :( |
| 02:10.39 | mindjuju | any ideas? |
| 02:11.03 | DexterTheDragon | do just make |
| 02:11.21 | DexterTheDragon | read the INSTALL file :) |
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| 02:39.19 | herlo | mindjuju: common idiom, ./configure && make && make install |
| 02:42.50 | mindjuju | @herlo, i've given a name to my pain, and it is nagios |
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| 02:44.52 | herlo | mindjuju: that's *everybodys* pain |
| 02:45.42 | mindjuju | maybe i should punt and try zenoss |
| 02:46.21 | herlo | nah, it's no less difficult |
| 02:46.52 | herlo | I might suggest groundwork os to go with your nagios, if you want more of a challeng :) |
| 02:47.02 | herlo | s/ng :)/nge :)/ |
| 02:47.22 | mindjuju | so quick question then |
| 02:47.23 | herlo | it makes adding nodes easier, but is a bit of a pain to setup initially |
| 02:47.51 | mindjuju | nagios connects to remote servers via NPRE which runs over somethign called xinetd ? |
| 02:48.16 | herlo | NRPE |
| 02:48.34 | herlo | xinetd is a service that manages other services |
| 02:48.42 | herlo | superdaemon, if you will |
| 02:49.03 | mindjuju | k, so it is the daemon that manages NRPE |
| 02:49.13 | herlo | xinetd manages services that are generally less used, or less secure. Good examples, tftp, telnet, rsync (sometimes) |
| 02:49.56 | herlo | mindjuju: it is the daemon that passes requests to nrpe. NRPE is still a process that runs, just xinetd allows the service to be off until requested |
| 02:50.07 | mindjuju | k |
| 02:58.14 | mindjuju | well, i'm going to go rummage around for food, i'm starved |
| 02:59.16 | herlo | enjoy |
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| 03:37.55 | mindjuju | herlo, you still around? |
| 03:41.30 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://i.imgur.com/gyOZN.jpg |
| 03:41.48 | mindjuju | that's funny dtd |
| 03:42.13 | ninnypants | heh I watched that movie the other day |
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| 04:31.21 | herlo | mindjuju: sorry, had to run the kid home |
| 04:31.43 | mindjuju | that's ok |
| 04:31.48 | mindjuju | i think i'm almost done |
| 04:31.59 | mindjuju | just trying to find this blasted file statuswml.cgi |
| 04:33.44 | mindjuju | i only know of that file because nagroid keeps failing to find it |
| 04:34.29 | herlo | nagroid, nice name |
| 04:47.01 | mindjuju | so herlo, quick question |
| 04:47.45 | mindjuju | my phone has an IP address of 174.x.x.x, i want to write a firewall rule to allow traffic from that IP, but the IP on the cell phone changes prolly from tower to tower |
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| 05:10.25 | herlo | hmmm |
| 05:29.50 | mindjuju | the fates hate me |
| 05:30.23 | mindjuju | the moment, THE VERY MOMENT i finish configing nagios and turn to my android to see how its working with nagroid, the battery dies |
| 05:30.27 | mindjuju | THE VERY MOMENT |
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| 14:55.56 | mgeary | ~morning |
| 14:55.56 | ibot | Good morning! |
| 14:56.03 | mgeary | $morning |
| 14:59.39 | jsmith | Morning mgeary |
| 14:59.41 | jsmith | Morning all |
| 15:07.06 | Utah_Dave | morning! |
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| 15:45.16 | dharmatech | mindjuju: on your fw question, can't you specify the MAC instead? |
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| 17:00.34 | mindjuju | interesting read on phpfog compromise |
| 17:00.35 | mindjuju | http://blog.phpfog.com/2011/03/22/how-we-got-owned-by-a-few-teenagers-and-why-it-will-never-happen-again/# |
| 17:53.45 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 17:53.46 | ibot | runs at influx with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
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| 18:03.55 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 18:03.55 | ibot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that macnewbold is stuck to the floor |
| 18:04.09 | mindjuju | sup sunsparc |
| 18:04.23 | kingsol | wps: would this work |
| 18:04.25 | kingsol | RewriteRule ^$ /content.html |
| 18:04.38 | kingsol | where a request with NO uri, would redirect to /content.html |
| 18:05.00 | kingsol | kind of like an index directrive, but with a rewrite (long story why I have to do this) |
| 18:06.32 | macnewbold | ~lart SunSparc |
| 18:06.32 | ibot | whacks SunSparc with the cluebat |
| 18:07.01 | mindjuju | hey, if i want to temporarily assign an IP address to an interface, can't i just say ifconfig ipaddress netmask |
| 18:07.07 | mindjuju | and as soon as reboot, it's gone? |
| 18:07.17 | kingsol | I guess my ? isn't just for wps :) |
| 18:08.13 | mgeary | mindjuju: you need to assign it to an interface, but yes, you can do that |
| 18:08.26 | SunSparc | mindjuju: not much |
| 18:09.24 | mindjuju | thx mgeary |
| 18:09.42 | mgeary | mindjuju: here's what i do sometimes: |
| 18:09.53 | mgeary | sudo /sbin/ifconfig en0 alias XX.XX.XX.XX netmask 255.255.255.255 |
| 18:09.59 | mgeary | that works just ducky |
| 18:10.08 | mindjuju | :) awesome! |
| 18:10.13 | mindjuju | ~mgeary++ |
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| 18:31.07 | kingsol | hey guys... would this rewritecond work to say, only rewrite when a "." is in the url |
| 18:31.20 | kingsol | rather... a "." is not in the url |
| 18:31.22 | kingsol | RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(\.)$ |
| 18:51.20 | mindjuju | anybody here work with munin charts |
| 18:54.22 | SunSparc | kingsol: not quite |
| 18:54.37 | herlo | mindjuju: wha? |
| 18:54.51 | mindjuju | you work with munin herlo? |
| 18:55.08 | herlo | mindjuju: I've set it up before, but I don't know what you mean by 'charts' |
| 18:56.20 | herlo | can you clarify? |
| 18:56.46 | SunSparc | kingsol: RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(\.)$ |
| 18:56.52 | mindjuju | well, i got munin up and running,and it's collecting stats like a busy bee, now i need to translate the stats into action |
| 18:57.11 | SunSparc | ~translate mindjuju |
| 18:57.14 | mindjuju | and for how good the docs are to install it, i'm now left curious as to what it all means |
| 18:59.49 | kingsol | SunSparc: wouldn't that match when a "," exists? |
| 18:59.52 | kingsol | "." |
| 19:00.42 | herlo | mindjuju: action? |
| 19:00.49 | herlo | like alerts? |
| 19:01.14 | mindjuju | well, i was more meaning, here i've got all this data, i'd like to start to tune the server to what i'm seeing through munin |
| 19:01.36 | herlo | that would probably be a chore |
| 19:01.49 | herlo | not that it can't be done |
| 19:02.14 | herlo | but it would take a bit of time to explain what each graph represents and how to tun it |
| 19:02.14 | herlo | tune |
| 19:02.23 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 19:02.39 | mindjuju | i'll keep looking for any documentation on what it all means |
| 19:02.42 | herlo | much of it is useful for alerting, like disk space, memory swapping, cpu spikes, etc |
| 19:02.56 | mindjuju | so kind of like a nagios |
| 19:02.59 | herlo | there isn't much *tuning* you can do with that beyond adding more |
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| 19:03.17 | herlo | mindjuju: munin and nagios do different things but some are the same, yes |
| 19:03.25 | fungus | munin's job is to graph datapoints, not give you system advice. |
| 19:03.28 | herlo | mindjuju: have you heard of cacti |
| 19:03.47 | mindjuju | wasn't there a preso at UTOS for cacti + zenoss |
| 19:03.51 | herlo | munin is more like cacti with alerting functionality |
| 19:03.52 | fungus | learn about what the datapoints mean elsewhere |
| 19:04.36 | fungus | We can help guide you on where to look for info regarding specific datapoints |
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| 19:13.33 | mindjuju | so herlo / fungus, i've been looking at this picture in particular ( http://screencast.com/t/WNnSNSFPXn1 ), it looks like i have WAY too many free slots, apache docs seem to indicate this is coming from maxclients which is set to 225, i'm mulling droping this lower, maybe 150? |
| 19:14.24 | fungus | not just maxclients, but also spareservers |
| 19:14.32 | fungus | see maxspareservers |
| 19:14.59 | herlo | mindjuju: serverlimit |
| 19:15.19 | mindjuju | but we all agree though, that's much too high, right? |
| 19:15.20 | herlo | and maxclients are related |
| 19:15.20 | fungus | yeah that too. serverlimit goes w/ maxclients |
| 19:15.36 | fungus | yes. that's too high |
| 19:15.36 | herlo | mindjuju: not necessarily |
| 19:15.47 | herlo | if that's what your normal traffic is all the time, yes |
| 19:15.49 | fungus | unless you are preparing for slashdot? |
| 19:16.04 | herlo | but don't go above like 70-80% utilization |
| 19:16.12 | herlo | to give you room for spikes |
| 19:16.22 | mindjuju | k |
| 19:16.31 | herlo | depending on how your system handles load, it could be set lower... |
| 19:17.22 | herlo | mindjuju: /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf has the docs in them (sort of) |
| 19:18.18 | mindjuju | well, the reason i'm chasing after this is that the other day, apache crashed, so i've spent some time and gave nagios some love yesterday, (giving time to munin to build some stats), now i'm going after the server to do a little more tune, then back to nagios for more love |
| 19:18.54 | herlo | heh, nagios and love in the same sentence does not compute |
| 19:19.12 | mindjuju | nagios and i must be friends |
| 19:19.14 | mindjuju | i need the alerting |
| 19:19.40 | mindjuju | and the guy that set this up before me did not follow ANY of the documented conventions |
| 19:19.52 | mindjuju | he put groups and hosts in what ever file he felt like |
| 19:20.03 | mindjuju | and sometimes multiple files |
| 19:20.20 | mindjuju | i was really in pain until i found that nagios cfg checker thingee |
| 19:20.54 | herlo | haha |
| 19:21.02 | herlo | alerting is a good idea |
| 19:21.35 | mindjuju | yeah, looking at setting up another 2 vantage points so i get notified ASAP of anything |
| 19:21.39 | herlo | just make sure you have a backup person for those 3-4 day all-nighters |
| 19:22.09 | mindjuju | we're close enough to the weekend that i think i can make it |
| 19:22.27 | mindjuju | did you read that story i posted earlier about phpfog? v interesting |
| 19:23.28 | herlo | no, but I haven't had a great day today |
| 19:23.37 | herlo | been loading the car to head back to Utah all morning |
| 19:24.22 | mindjuju | how is Jen? did she hurt her back? |
| 19:24.40 | herlo | yes |
| 19:24.55 | herlo | which is why I loaded the car all morning. Normally, she'd be helping me |
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| 19:54.12 | mindjuju | curious, duke nukem delayed again... till june |
| 19:55.51 | utahcon | anyone got a second for some mod_rewrite help? http://scrp.at/It |
| 19:56.35 | utahcon | The scenario is I have example.com redirecting everything to index.php except I want /(media|skin|js|community) to go to their respective (physcial) directories -- thoughts? |
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| 21:17.41 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fWSGTspL4w |
| 21:18.36 | mindjuju | that's awesome! |
| 21:20.23 | mindjuju | DtD, if you want to watch it, it's here http://psgroove.com/content.php?581-Sony-s-PS3-Security-is-Epic-Fail-Videos-Within |
| 21:20.41 | mindjuju | even if you don't own a PS3, which i don't, it's cool to here how they compromised the system |
| 21:21.11 | DexterTheDragon | will I get sued if I look at it? |
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| 21:21.38 | mindjuju | prolly not :), but sony has already started the army of lawyers to sue |
| 21:22.28 | mindjuju | it's funny, in part 3, where the math whiz of the group uses simple math to decode their stuff |
| 21:22.38 | mindjuju | they have slides w/ formulas, everything |
| 21:22.40 | ninnypants | when hasn't sony started the army of lawyers to sue? |
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| 21:30.36 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:30.36 | raifbot | sends a legion of lawyers after raifbot's head. |
| 21:30.39 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:31.36 | orsonj | That's one way to make fun of Sony |
| 21:31.43 | mindjuju | very apropos |
| 21:32.12 | orsonj | Wasn't it them that had their legal group send stuff to their marketing group |
| 21:32.33 | mindjuju | thta's funny, hadn't heard that |
| 21:32.48 | TuxToaster | ha, talk about timing, just read ninnypants's last comment. |
| 21:33.23 | ninnypants | heh that's awesome! |
| 21:34.15 | TuxToaster | yet another proof of raifbot's intelligence. :P |
| 21:35.36 | orsonj | I guess it was cbs, not sony. http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/15/cbs-sends-a-youtube.html |
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| 22:58.28 | redroy | I'm liking ff4's "chromeish" layout |
| 23:03.37 | mindjuju | any shell script writers around? |
| 23:07.22 | mgeary | me |
| 23:07.28 | mgeary | but i have to head out to parent-teacher conferences |
| 23:07.35 | mindjuju | k |
| 23:07.38 | mgeary | make it quick |
| 23:07.59 | mindjuju | i'm trying to do a test with curl and a shell script |
| 23:08.21 | mindjuju | if curl -f -s = 200 |
| 23:08.27 | mindjuju | then echo "good" |
| 23:08.32 | mindjuju | can i say that? |
| 23:08.40 | mindjuju | specifically, the = 200 |
| 23:09.09 | fungus | mindjuju, have you considered using the nagios plugin, check_http |
| 23:09.11 | mindjuju | this doesn't really explain setting up an if http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/testconstructs.html |
| 23:09.37 | mindjuju | i do actually have that running, fungus, i wanted to throw this out on another server not running nagios |
| 23:09.37 | mgeary | mindjuju: i think you'd need to wrap the curl statement into backtics |
| 23:09.57 | mindjuju | as a backup to nagios |
| 23:11.16 | mgeary | but i don't think i've done any "if foo=bar" scripts in bash, strangely enough |
| 23:11.26 | mindjuju | curious |
| 23:11.43 | fungus | mindjuju, check the return code from curl |
| 23:12.05 | fungus | if ["$?" -ne 0]; then ... |
| 23:12.24 | mindjuju | well, i do have a more elegant curl, i just truncated it to express the part that i had a question on |
| 23:12.36 | mindjuju | but for the curl, it's returning the http code, 200 |
| 23:12.39 | mindjuju | so i cool with that |
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| 23:13.08 | fungus | $? is the exit code of the program, not the output |
| 23:13.17 | mindjuju | oh |
| 23:13.26 | fungus | when using curl -f, the exit code indicates the type of error. |
| 23:14.23 | fungus | The exit code is a good check to see if the previous command worked or not. |
| 23:15.24 | fungus | FYI, you don't need a whole nagios install to use a nagios plugin. They can be used completely self sufficiently. |
| 23:15.38 | fungus | eg, copy the check_http script itself to another machine. |
| 23:16.06 | mindjuju | and run it as a cron? |
| 23:16.10 | mindjuju | that's what i was hoping to do |
| 23:16.13 | fungus | yes |
| 23:16.46 | mindjuju | nagios running, and then a couple additional sentinel scripts to back up nagios |
| 23:19.14 | fungus | just cron something like this: check_http ... || echo "Ooops" | mail -s "ALERT, it's borked" 8015555555@txt.att.net |
| 23:25.39 | mindjuju | @fungus, amazing! i never knew! http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_http |
| 23:25.57 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 23:26.01 | fungus | yeah, it's a good plugin |
| 23:27.13 | fungus | nagios plugins are just executable scripts that return an exit code that maps to ok,warning,critical, and outputs the reason. |
| 23:27.25 | fungus | You can use them separately very easily |
