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| 15:15.58 | influx | Mornin' |
| 15:23.00 | ninnypants | mornin influx |
| 15:28.15 | carmony_ | catching up on my xkcd |
| 15:28.19 | carmony_ | http://xkcd.com/869/ -- perfect |
| 15:40.32 | carmony_ | heh, happy with FOSS today mgeary ? |
| 15:41.12 | mgeary | carmony_: i love that i just found a way to do very well with Sox something that was going to cost hundreds of dollars and be very clunky with commercial software |
| 15:41.26 | jsmith | mgeary: Awesome :-) |
| 15:41.32 | carmony_ | FOSS for the win! |
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| 16:08.10 | influx | mew mew |
| 16:08.19 | influx | ~rlart |
| 16:08.19 | ibot | keeps mailing cedwards free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 16:09.05 | mgeary | ~seen thebigdog |
| 16:09.16 | ibot | thebigdog <~thebigdog@dsl093-228-015.slc1.dsl.speakeasy.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 25d 23h 46m ago, saying: 'i am looking forward to the iditarod this year!'. |
| 16:09.22 | mgeary | jeeze |
| 16:10.20 | herlo | heh |
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| 16:15.57 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 16:15.57 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can speak braille. |
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| 16:43.45 | carmony_ | $rlart |
| 16:43.46 | raifbot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, itimber, this won't hurt a bit....". |
| 16:43.53 | carmony_ | lol |
| 16:44.14 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, that rocks. |
| 16:44.30 | itimber | haha |
| 16:44.43 | itimber | $rlart |
| 16:44.43 | raifbot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at romanovic-afk. |
| 16:47.00 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: totally. Sox is the bomb, but understanding everything that's going on is quite a challenge |
| 16:51.15 | PoeticIntensity | I'm interested... What exactly are you doing with Sox? Musical transposition? |
| 16:51.28 | mgeary | yes, and tempo shifting |
| 16:52.00 | PoeticIntensity | tempo shifting without altering pitch? |
| 16:52.31 | mgeary | yep |
| 16:52.47 | mgeary | does a surprisingly good job. as good as anything commercial that we've been able to find |
| 16:52.56 | PoeticIntensity | wow. |
| 16:53.21 | PoeticIntensity | does "as good as anything commercial" mean "good"? Or does it still produce artifacts? |
| 16:53.41 | mgeary | speeding up doesn't produce any artifacts that i can discern; at least up to 150% |
| 16:54.08 | mgeary | slowing down is also quite good until you get somewhere between 75% and 60%. At 60% it tends to get fairly "warbly", and is borderline acceptable |
| 16:54.36 | mgeary | but i suspect even so, with some experimentation and adjusting of parameters, it could be improved over what i have |
| 16:54.53 | PoeticIntensity | wow. |
| 16:55.38 | PoeticIntensity | When you say speeding up by 150%, just so I understand, you're meaning you're making the song 50% shorter? |
| 16:55.58 | PoeticIntensity | without altering pitch... |
| 16:56.03 | PoeticIntensity | that, my friend, is insane. |
| 16:56.12 | mgeary | want some samples? |
| 16:56.15 | PoeticIntensity | seriously cool... |
| 16:56.23 | PoeticIntensity | absolutely.... some before and after would be awesome. |
| 16:57.46 | mgeary | baseline with no vocals: http://www.treelinegroup.com/dev/mg/tempo/accompaniment.mp3 |
| 16:58.35 | mgeary | 150% of tempo (no vocals): http://www.treelinegroup.com/dev/mg/tempo/accompaniment_150.mp3 |
| 16:59.01 | mgeary | 75% of tempo (no vocals): http://www.treelinegroup.com/dev/mg/tempo/accompaniment_75.mp3 |
| 16:59.30 | mgeary | baseline with vocals: http://www.treelinegroup.com/dev/mg/tempo/vocals.mp3 |
| 16:59.56 | mgeary | vocals at 75%: http://www.treelinegroup.com/dev/mg/tempo/vocals_75.mp3 |
| 17:00.06 | mgeary | vocals at 150%: http://www.treelinegroup.com/dev/mg/tempo/vocals_150.mp3 |
| 17:01.25 | mindjuju | what's a paw paw patch? |
| 17:01.40 | mgeary | mindjuju: well, we could tell you, but... |
| 17:05.03 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: whatcha think? |
| 17:05.20 | PoeticIntensity | sorry.... listen to em' in a sec... |
| 17:06.03 | mindjuju | mgeary, the 150 w/ vocals sounds like the micro machine guy singing |
| 17:06.35 | mindjuju | this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2egGfd5j_k |
| 17:06.46 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, listening now. |
| 17:07.12 | mgeary | mindjuju: true, that |
| 17:08.22 | PoeticIntensity | no vocals sounds surprisingly good sped up. |
| 17:08.29 | PoeticIntensity | going on to vocals. |
| 17:10.25 | PoeticIntensity | yeah, mgeary, that's fairly amazing. |
| 17:10.53 | mgeary | cool, eh? |
| 17:11.00 | PoeticIntensity | is it the same quality with transposition, and can you verify going from key to key? |
| 17:11.04 | PoeticIntensity | very cool, indeed. |
| 17:11.23 | mgeary | transposition seems to be at least as good, as far as i can tell. Obviously within reasonable limits |
| 17:11.40 | PoeticIntensity | sure... |
| 17:11.45 | mgeary | though i don't have a lot of (any) musical background/knowledge |
| 17:13.59 | PoeticIntensity | all in all, that's very, very impressive.... |
| 17:14.04 | PoeticIntensity | and it's all sox, huh... |
| 17:14.13 | PoeticIntensity | simultaneously amazing, and not surprising at all. |
| 17:14.19 | mgeary | heh |
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| 19:19.59 | mindjuju | ~apb herlo |
| 19:20.00 | ibot | ACTION summons Duane Lee to find herlo |
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| 19:37.44 | influx | $8ball Yeah? |
| 19:37.44 | raifbot | influx - It is decidedly so. |
| 19:42.24 | mindjuju | i'll take a turkey sammich w/ some salt & vinegar chips and a lemonade |
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| 20:27.46 | mgeary | of all the lovely crisps they have in England, i don't know to this day how Salt 'n' Vinegar made it across the pond when the others didn't |
| 20:28.24 | mindjuju | what other kinds of crisps do they have over there? |
| 20:28.51 | mindjuju | sea salt & vinegar? salt & malt vinegar? salt & white vinegar? |
| 20:29.15 | mindjuju | i could see the combinations being endless,and tasty |
| 20:29.21 | utahcon | lol |
| 20:29.37 | mindjuju | sup utahcon |
| 20:29.44 | mindjuju | i want a mohawk, but i'm not as brave as you |
| 20:29.55 | utahcon | mindjuju: I am not brace |
| 20:29.56 | utahcon | brave |
| 20:30.00 | utahcon | I am crazy! |
| 20:30.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:33.57 | influx | Yep. 2:30PM. |
| 20:34.06 | utahcon | whoa!!! |
| 20:34.08 | utahcon | I am in the future!!!! |
| 20:34.12 | utahcon | my clock says 2:33 |
| 20:34.15 | utahcon | 2:34 now |
| 20:34.16 | utahcon | :D |
| 20:34.56 | influx | :D |
| 20:35.07 | mindjuju | what's the future like? |
| 20:35.28 | mindjuju | can you upgrade your brain yet? |
| 20:38.56 | mindjuju | ~wtf iow |
| 20:39.03 | mindjuju | oh |
| 20:42.54 | mgeary | anyone here every used the Quickbooks xml/SOAP api? |
| 20:42.58 | mgeary | *ever |
| 20:44.03 | jsmith | mgeary: Didn't know there was such a beast... but I'd love to learn more! |
| 20:44.05 | orsonj | not here |
| 20:44.21 | jsmith | mgeary: I have a friend who needs just that sort of integration |
| 20:44.54 | mgeary | jsmith: send him/her my way :) unless s/he is broke, then..uh.. i refer you to thebigdog |
| 20:45.27 | jsmith | mgeary: I certainly will, once I find out his exact needs |
| 20:45.46 | jsmith | mgeary: Right now, he's signing up for shiftplanning.com, and may need some custom integration work there as well |
| 20:45.56 | jsmith | mgeary: (and I don't have time to do it, or I'd do it myself) |
| 20:46.03 | mgeary | yeah |
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| 20:55.50 | fungus | lol |
| 20:55.52 | fungus | http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202486102650&Manhattan_Federal_Judge_Kimba_Wood_Calls_Record_Companies_Request_for__Trillion_in_Damages_Absurd_in_Lime_Wire_Copyright_Case |
| 20:58.52 | herlo | mindjuju: pong |
| 21:08.01 | mindjuju | never fails, walk away to go to the bathroom and there is a pong in the IRC |
| 21:08.04 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:08.06 | mindjuju | sup herlo |
| 21:08.28 | herlo | lol |
| 21:08.37 | herlo | mindjuju: no rush, trying to get a few things done too :) |
| 21:09.45 | mindjuju | @herlo - well if by "trying to get a few things done" is euphemistically speaking for going to the bathroom, then go and do that; i'll not be responsible for soiling yourself |
| 21:10.13 | herlo | mindjuju: it is not |
| 21:10.32 | mindjuju | :) k -> PM |
| 21:11.06 | herlo | kk |
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| 21:18.10 | orsonj | "Does $75 trillion even exist?" According to the Federal Reserve, No. (about $8.9 Trillion) --> http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/hist/h6hist1.txt |
| 21:18.58 | herlo | orsonj: if you converted the moneys from the G8, probably |
| 21:19.15 | orsonj | funny that we are more in debt than there are actual (US) dollars to pay it back. |
| 21:20.00 | orsonj | true, that is only the ammount of US money. |
| 21:23.37 | utahcon | dude herlo I like $$ too!!! we should hang out |
| 21:23.56 | herlo | utahcon: well, you never call me back |
| 21:24.15 | herlo | and you never seem to be available when I am :( |
| 21:24.51 | utahcon | sorry -- can't help with the loser bit |
| 21:24.52 | utahcon | :D |
| 21:25.23 | herlo | utahcon: actually, I'm not a loser, I just feel like one when you ditch me |
| 21:26.10 | herlo | because, well, you are one of the cool kids in high school. But you lead me on as if you are a friend, just so you can cheat from me! |
| 21:26.13 | herlo | JERK! |
| 21:26.21 | herlo | :P |
| 21:27.16 | utahcon | lol |
| 21:31.43 | mindjuju | say it like that, and you sound something of a booty call |
| 21:31.46 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:34.10 | utahcon | http://getfirebug.com/swarms/Firefox-4.0/ |
| 21:34.19 | utahcon | ^^ didn't know Firebug had grown so much |
| 21:34.34 | PoeticIntensity | dude.... firebug is its own universe. |
| 21:34.41 | PoeticIntensity | glorious, blissful universe... |
| 21:34.47 | utahcon | PoeticIntensity: I see that |
| 21:34.57 | PoeticIntensity | I'd quit webdev completely without it. |
| 21:34.59 | PoeticIntensity | :-D |
| 21:35.14 | utahcon | lol |
| 21:35.22 | utahcon | I had forgotten about it until I updated Firefox |
| 21:39.39 | herlo | heh |
| 21:41.41 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Amen, brother! |
| 21:41.56 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 21:42.28 | PoeticIntensity | now, the IE developers need to pull their head out and realize that "there were errors on the page" doesn't quite cut it anymore. |
| 21:43.20 | PoeticIntensity | Fixing IE AJAX-related bugs and designing pixel-perfect IE CSS stuff is getting to be the worst part of web development. |
| 21:45.13 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Luckily, there's a (stripped-down, and possibly out of date) version of Firebug for IE |
| 21:45.24 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: (or so I hear -- I haven't touched IE in years!) |
| 21:45.27 | PoeticIntensity | anything is better than what IE provides by default. |
| 21:45.40 | PoeticIntensity | I didn't know anything at all existed for IE development. |
| 21:50.35 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: "...getting to be.." ??! how about "...has forever been..." |
| 21:51.02 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, too true, and completely unexaggerated. |
| 21:51.25 | PoeticIntensity | Even my .NET / C# co-worker absolutely hates developing for IE. |
| 21:52.55 | mindjuju | hmm, i don't know how i feel about ff 4 |
| 21:53.08 | mindjuju | seems to pretty |
| 21:53.13 | mindjuju | err, too pretty |
| 21:53.20 | mindjuju | like simpsons going high def, what's up with that? |
| 21:53.35 | mindjuju | not that i watched it since like 7yrs ago |
| 21:57.49 | carmony_ | ok, any business owners awake? |
| 22:00.03 | orsonj | which begs the question, who here owns businesses? |
| 22:00.43 | DexterTheDragon | no it begs the question, who here is awake? |
| 22:00.50 | orsonj | true |
| 22:01.23 | orsonj | $8ball are more people here awake than asleep? |
| 22:01.23 | raifbot | orsonj - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 22:01.41 | orsonj | $8ball are more people here awake than asleep? |
| 22:01.41 | raifbot | orsonj - Without a doubt. |
| 22:01.59 | orsonj | I must have been the edge case, concentrating made me more awake. |
| 22:03.59 | mindjuju | let's see, who here owns a business |
| 22:04.05 | mindjuju | mgeary, carmony, macnewbold |
| 22:04.12 | mindjuju | i own mindjuju, llc |
| 22:04.15 | mindjuju | herlo does |
| 22:04.17 | mindjuju | wps does |
| 22:04.27 | mindjuju | itimber i think does |
| 22:04.36 | mindjuju | poeticintensity does |
| 22:04.51 | mindjuju | to my knowledge, that's it |
| 22:04.54 | mindjuju | influx, you do? |
| 22:05.05 | influx | Strictly speaking? No. |
| 22:05.17 | influx | I'm not official, yet. |
| 22:05.22 | mindjuju | oh |
| 22:05.43 | influx | What are you thinking about? |
| 22:05.50 | itimber | :) |
| 22:06.02 | mindjuju | @influx, when you're ready, go here |
| 22:06.03 | mindjuju | http://www.utah.gov/business/starting.html |
| 22:06.26 | mindjuju | cheap, peppy, and easy way to start ya own business! |
| 22:06.46 | mindjuju | Influx coding! When you want the best, and at a great price too! |
| 22:07.35 | orsonj | And then find a lawyer, accountant and geek (except if you are here, you probably fill the role of geek) |
| 22:07.57 | mindjuju | actually, off that site, it gives you everything you need |
| 22:08.13 | mindjuju | sample articles of organization, where to get your EIN, etc, etc, etc |
| 22:08.22 | mindjuju | click here, pay this, click there, sign this |
| 22:08.32 | mindjuju | though i would get an accountant for the first year |
| 22:08.46 | mindjuju | help you understand where all the $$ needs to go and what to watch out for |
| 22:09.02 | mindjuju | orsonj, you got a business? |
| 22:09.14 | orsonj | no, but everyone I've talked to suggest the above three |
| 22:09.48 | orsonj | well at leat the first two, but everyone needs a geek |
| 22:10.57 | orsonj | I don't think you need to have an inhouse lawyer and accountant, just need to know a couple to be able to ask them questions. |
| 22:11.10 | mindjuju | yup, true that |
| 22:11.37 | mindjuju | i got accountant for first year taxes so i could get a good grasp on what was going on, why, how to be safe |
| 22:12.29 | orsonj | yep, just need some people to make sure you are pointed in the right direction, then check with them anytime things might change. |
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| 22:15.17 | influx | Thanks, mindjuju. :] |
| 22:17.02 | orsonj | the starting a business site looks pretty good, but I did find a few links that are broken. |
| 22:17.19 | mindjuju | dag! |
| 22:17.23 | influx | Perhaps you can offer them your services--for a fee, of course. |
| 22:18.46 | orsonj | :) |
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| 22:37.07 | wps | wps doesn't own a business |
| 22:37.42 | wps | I just consult as a sole proprietorship |
| 22:44.14 | orsonj | Every time I see another "wireless charging" thing I sigh. So far they are functionally identical to a charging dock. |
| 22:44.23 | orsonj | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/lg-wireless-charging-padsmall.jpg |
| 22:44.45 | fungus | agreed |
| 22:45.51 | orsonj | When they get to a point that they can charge from 3-8 feet away, I might get into it. |
| 22:45.59 | orsonj | but 3mm, no |
| 22:46.29 | fungus | I think a foot would be good. |
| 22:46.36 | mindjuju | feet are good |
| 22:47.05 | fungus | and it should be universal. So my table could charge anything that sits on it. |
| 22:51.36 | orsonj | A foot or two would be good for charging stuff overnight, but 8 feet would be even better. Install one next to the light fixture in the rooms you spend the most time in and have your gadgets charge in your pocket or not worry about plugging in your laptop while you are using it. |
| 22:53.47 | mindjuju | i prefer 2 feet to 1 |
| 22:53.55 | mindjuju | otherwise you'll be leaning everywhere you go |
| 22:54.06 | mindjuju | just saying |
| 22:54.25 | mindjuju | 8 feet sounds cumbersome |
| 22:54.59 | fungus | orsonj, I agree, that would be awesome. But i'll buy a 1-2 foot charger, but i'll pass on a <2in charger |
| 22:55.32 | fungus | mindjuju, i don't know. It might be fun. Imagine how fast you could run. |
| 22:56.01 | fungus | or maybe not speed, but longer distances |
| 22:58.15 | fungus | thought getting dressed in the morning would suck |
| 22:58.27 | mindjuju | and shoe tying |
| 22:58.32 | fungus | yeah. |
| 22:59.38 | mindjuju | did you see this fungus? |
| 22:59.39 | mindjuju | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/dex-bridging-gaps-between-debian-and-derivatives |
| 23:01.06 | fungus | that's cool, maybe debian won't be so woefully old and boring. |
| 23:02.02 | fungus | btw, i'm liking FF4 |
| 23:02.17 | mindjuju | seems too pretty |
| 23:02.26 | fungus | that's a good thing |
| 23:02.41 | fungus | I'm coming from using chrome full time. |
| 23:02.46 | fungus | i expect pretty |
| 23:04.09 | fungus | sync, tab groups, tab expose, menu hiding, pin tabs. all awesomesause |
| 23:04.24 | fungus | *awesomesauce |
| 23:05.08 | fungus | though tab groups/expose is the only thing chrome didn't already have. |
| 23:06.32 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:06.32 | raifbot | raises middle finger to influx. |
| 23:06.53 | josephscott | ~say $lart ibot |
| 23:06.54 | ibot | $lart ibot |
| 23:06.54 | raifbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up ibot. |
| 23:13.54 | PoeticIntensity | haha.... battling bots... |
| 23:16.15 | mgeary | anyone here do much with PayPal tools? I haven't looked at them for years, but have a client for whom that might be the right approach |
| 23:16.38 | mgeary | PayPal has expanded their offering quite a bit. Trying to muddle through the various options to see what fits best |
| 23:41.35 | *** part/#uphpu mgeary (~mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 23:47.43 | ninnypants | heh half life just told me my internet connection wasn't valid |
