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| 03:34.36 | kingsol | hey... need a little help on some jquery if someone is willing |
| 03:35.12 | kingsol | I have a link <a> embeded in some mark up like this: |
| 03:35.51 | kingsol | <div class='popin'><table><tbody><tr><td> <a> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> |
| 03:36.28 | kingsol | I need to "select" the FIRSt div that has the class "popin" that is a parent to that <a> |
| 03:36.40 | kingsol | any ideas? |
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| 03:43.58 | ninnypants | $('a').parent('.popin'); |
| 03:44.31 | DexterTheDragon | kingsol: try $("div.popin:first:has('a')") |
| 03:45.57 | kingsol | let me give those a whirl... parent hasn't been working for me, but let me try your variations... thanks - give me a sec, I'll let you know how it goes |
| 03:46.14 | tierra | ninnypants code won't work, that only works if the first parent element (regardless of what it is) is in fact <div class="popin">.... this is the correct version: $('a').closest('div.popin') |
| 03:46.51 | kingsol | tierra: thanks.. I'll try that |
| 03:46.55 | kingsol | one moment |
| 03:46.59 | tierra | I like DexterTheDragon's best though, probably the most efficient as well |
| 03:47.06 | DexterTheDragon | parents() also work |
| 03:47.29 | tierra | parents will return multiple divs if there's more parent divs with the class popin |
| 03:47.33 | kingsol | would parents('.popin') work? |
| 03:47.54 | DexterTheDragon | parents('.popin:first') might. not sure |
| 03:48.13 | tierra | closest() is more appropriate if you only intend to get the first |
| 03:48.26 | DexterTheDragon | tierra: good point |
| 03:54.12 | kingsol | closest worked! |
| 03:54.27 | kingsol | thanks DexterTheDragon and tierra and ninnypants |
| 03:55.26 | ninnypants | sweet |
| 03:55.38 | ninnypants | whew neighbor is finally home |
| 03:57.51 | tierra | actually, looking back at DexterTheDragon's version... does that actually work? I would think it would only grab the first <div>, and only return it if it contained an <a> |
| 03:58.44 | kingsol | since closest work, I didn't try the other version, I liked how clean closest was |
| 04:04.07 | DexterTheDragon | kingsol: I thought you wanted the first div on the page. my bad |
| 04:14.21 | kingsol | no worries. we got to the solution. I appreciate the help |
| 04:19.15 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 04:19.15 | raifbot | Chuck Norris doesnât wear a watch. HE decides what time it is. |
| 04:19.29 | ninnypants | $8ball time to work? |
| 04:19.29 | raifbot | ninnypants - Outlook not so good. |
| 04:19.40 | ninnypants | hmm probably better do it anyway... |
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| 05:27.09 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 05:27.09 | raifbot | Remember the Soviet Union? They decided to quit after watching a DeltaForce marathon on Satellite TV. |
| 05:27.27 | herlo | old |
| 05:27.49 | herlo | Chuck Norris demands new jokes! |
| 06:00.01 | josephscott | herlo: if you find any let me know, I'll add them |
| 06:00.05 | josephscott | $chuck-facts |
| 06:00.11 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:00.11 | raifbot | Chuck Norris ended the song that never ends |
| 06:00.16 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:00.16 | raifbot | When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn't lifting himself up, he's pushing the Earth down. |
| 06:00.26 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:00.26 | raifbot | Chuck Norris is the only man to punch a cyclops between the eyes |
| 06:00.32 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:00.32 | raifbot | The chief export of Chuck Norris is pain. |
| 06:00.40 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:00.40 | raifbot | Death once had a near-Chuck Norris experience |
| 06:00.48 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:00.48 | raifbot | Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Chuck Norris. |
| 06:00.56 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:00.57 | raifbot | The chief export of Chuck Norris is pain. |
| 06:01.01 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:01.01 | raifbot | Jack was nimble, Jack was quick, but Jack still couldn't dodge Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick. |
| 06:01.14 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:01.14 | raifbot | Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table because the only element Chuck Norris recognizes is the element of suprise |
| 06:01.30 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:01.30 | raifbot | When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. |
| 06:01.36 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:01.36 | raifbot | If Superman and The Flash were to race to the edge of space you know who would win? Chuck Norris. |
| 06:01.46 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:01.46 | raifbot | Chuck Norris put the sword in the stone. |
| 06:01.53 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:01.53 | raifbot | In "ring around the rosie", Chuck Norris does not fall down. |
| 06:02.02 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:02.02 | raifbot | Some magicans can walk on water, Chuck Norris can swim through land. |
| 06:02.13 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:02.13 | raifbot | Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits. |
| 06:02.17 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:02.18 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can watch DVD's on a VCR |
| 06:02.25 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:02.25 | raifbot | Chuck Norris and Superman once fought each other on a bet. The loser had to start wearing his underwear on the outside of his pants. |
| 06:02.41 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:02.42 | raifbot | Chuck Norris doesent need a twitter, He's already following you. |
| 06:02.52 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:02.53 | raifbot | The chief export of Chuck Norris is pain. |
| 06:02.57 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:02.58 | raifbot | If you spell Chuck Norris wrong on Google it doesn't say, "Did you mean Chuck Norris?" It simply replies, "Run while you still have the chance." |
| 06:03.23 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:03.23 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can squeeze orange juice from a banana |
| 06:03.34 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:03.34 | raifbot | When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. |
| 06:03.39 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:03.40 | raifbot | There used to be a street named after Chuck Norris, but it was changed because nobody crosses Chuck Norris and lives. |
| 06:03.57 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:03.57 | raifbot | Chuck Norris' iPod came with a real charger instead of just a USB cord |
| 06:04.02 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:04.02 | raifbot | In "ring around the rosie", Chuck Norris does not fall down. |
| 06:04.07 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:04.07 | raifbot | Chuck Norris was in all 6 Star Wars movies............... As The Force. |
| 06:04.17 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:04.17 | raifbot | Chuck Norris has an Xbox Live account. On Playstation |
| 06:04.22 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:04.22 | raifbot | Chuck Norris once went skydiving. He promised never to do it again. He said one Grand Canyon is enough. |
| 06:04.28 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:04.29 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can light a fire by rubbing two ice-cubes together. |
| 06:04.37 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:04.38 | raifbot | Chuck Norris is the only man to punch a cyclops between the eyes |
| 06:06.23 | herlo | lol |
| 06:06.33 | herlo | nice one |
| 06:48.48 | mindjuju | what are y'all doing up so late? |
| 06:49.41 | herlo | mindjuju: same question to ya! |
| 06:50.07 | mindjuju | trying to figure out why mail -s "hello world" vvilla@example.com not sending |
| 06:50.11 | mindjuju | it's not doing anything! |
| 06:50.13 | mindjuju | grrr |
| 06:50.22 | mindjuju | it just hangs on the command prompt |
| 06:52.34 | herlo | because it's waiting for input |
| 06:52.40 | herlo | mindjuju: try |
| 06:52.49 | herlo | echo hello | mail -s "hello world" vvilla@example.com |
| 06:53.32 | mindjuju | oh , thx! |
| 06:54.36 | herlo | hehe, np |
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| 15:58.16 | josephscott | for all the cat lovers in the room - http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/03/14/funny-pictures-mike-tyson-u-animul/ |
| 16:12.35 | carmony | lol |
| 16:12.42 | mgeary | meh |
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| 16:18.42 | carmony | josephscott: http://failblog.org/2011/03/15/epic-fail-video-jeopardy-failblog-fail/ |
| 16:20.28 | josephscott | wow the ad on that video was a pain |
| 16:24.04 | mgeary | ~milk duds++ |
| 16:24.04 | ibot | ACTION gives duds++ a cup of honey sugar lemon milk |
| 16:24.11 | mgeary | hah |
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| 16:35.53 | influx_revere | How do I escape the % symbole in heredocs? |
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| 16:40.20 | herlo | \ |
| 16:40.32 | beandog | mo'nin |
| 16:41.25 | herlo | influx: not sure exactly, that's just how I would do it in python |
| 16:41.41 | influx | That's what I thought too, but it seems to be inneffective. |
| 16:41.50 | herlo | can you give me an example? |
| 16:42.15 | herlo | and why do % signs need to be escaped? |
| 16:42.22 | influx | http://pastebin.com/jxGRq28k |
| 16:42.45 | herlo | oh |
| 16:43.07 | herlo | is the string in quotes? It probably should be |
| 16:45.03 | influx | ? |
| 16:45.42 | mgeary | influx: i don't know why what you've got doesn't work, but why not just drop a variable into the heredoc? |
| 16:45.55 | mgeary | $me = "Mud"... <<< My name is $me.... |
| 16:46.00 | herlo | influx: do you need them to be separate? |
| 16:46.11 | DexterTheDragon | influx: the heredoc is fine |
| 16:46.32 | herlo | mgeary: I'm guessing he wants that written to a file |
| 16:46.43 | herlo | not a string |
| 16:46.52 | DexterTheDragon | influx: actually that whole paste works for me |
| 16:47.04 | mgeary | DexterTheDragon: yeah, that's what i would have thought... |
| 16:47.08 | mgeary | but i'm too lazy to try |
| 16:47.08 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: how are you running it?? |
| 16:47.20 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: php shell |
| 16:47.25 | herlo | hrm |
| 16:47.59 | herlo | actually, just worked for me too :) |
| 16:48.06 | herlo | php test.php |
| 16:48.06 | herlo | My name is Mud. |
| 16:48.14 | herlo | no changes |
| 16:48.22 | mgeary | ~question influx |
| 16:48.26 | mgeary | ~doubt influx |
| 16:48.26 | ibot | ACTION looks suspiciously at influx |
| 16:48.40 | herlo | ~cook mgeary |
| 16:48.40 | ibot | ACTION throws mgeary in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks mgeary on 350 for an hour |
| 16:48.43 | mindjuju | maybe different version of PHP? |
| 16:49.07 | influx | whoops |
| 16:49.09 | influx | hold on |
| 16:49.14 | influx | I pasted the wrong bit of PHP. |
| 16:49.19 | influx | Sorry guys. |
| 16:49.20 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart influx |
| 16:49.20 | ibot | whips out his power stapler and staples influx's foot to the floor |
| 16:49.23 | mgeary | ~blame influx |
| 16:49.23 | ibot | ACTION blames influx (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 16:49.57 | herlo | lol |
| 16:50.52 | influx | http://pastebin.com/vbsV7b5K |
| 16:51.12 | influx | Well, now I won't float away. |
| 16:52.12 | mgeary | influx: have you tried %% ? |
| 16:52.16 | mgeary | that's what it is in python |
| 16:52.20 | DexterTheDragon | influx: so you don't want the second %s getting seen by printf? |
| 16:52.54 | DexterTheDragon | yeah its %% from printf |
| 16:53.01 | DexterTheDragon | s/from/for/ |
| 16:54.53 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit mindjuju |
| 16:54.53 | ibot | ACTION stikes at mindjuju with the fire of the cat seizure knocks out mindjuju and injures influx! |
| 16:55.23 | influx | DexterTheDragon: Correct. |
| 16:55.44 | influx | Oh, nice. |
| 16:55.51 | influx | Thanks doods. |
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| 16:56.10 | herlo | oh, haha %%, that's what I meant all along, oops |
| 16:56.30 | influx | :D |
| 16:57.59 | stderr- | lol potassium iodide "selling out" in America |
| 16:58.01 | stderr- | 9_9 |
| 16:58.11 | beandog | whats that |
| 16:58.29 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: a guard against radiation sickness |
| 16:58.33 | beandog | oh |
| 16:58.35 | herlo | beandog: for radiation poisoning |
| 16:58.41 | mgeary | heh |
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| 16:59.24 | stderr- | it's what you take to fill your thyroid with iodide so that it doesn't absorb radioactive iodine |
| 16:59.26 | influx | Is there anything to really be worried about? |
| 16:59.30 | stderr- | No. |
| 16:59.31 | mgeary | no |
| 16:59.52 | influx | Ok. Good. |
| 17:00.04 | stderr- | course, I already have a stash of potassium iodide, but that's because I fully expect the alien menace to deploy nuclear weapons |
| 17:00.21 | beandog | stderr-, why is the assumption always that aliens will be hostile? (srsly) |
| 17:00.32 | stderr- | cuz they look weird |
| 17:00.41 | beandog | good enough. |
| 17:00.48 | josephscott | beandog: if you stuck in space craft for months/years you'd be in a bad mood when you got out |
| 17:00.58 | josephscott | s/you/you were/ |
| 17:01.01 | stderr- | Earth is pretty rare as far as resources go in the universe |
| 17:01.03 | stderr- | (water) |
| 17:01.16 | stderr- | so unless you're the retard aliens from Signs, you probably'd want some |
| 17:01.20 | beandog | and we don't have super fast winds |
| 17:02.17 | influx | What's the worst that can happen anyway? |
| 17:02.36 | beandog | you die? |
| 17:03.01 | herlo | well, I think radiation sickness may be worse than dying |
| 17:03.07 | influx | -_- |
| 17:03.10 | herlo | but then you'd die, eventually |
| 17:03.57 | influx | I mean, when some of the radiation from the plant drifts to the states. |
| 17:04.08 | stderr- | the worst that can happen? Californians are forced to wear long sleeve shirts and take daily showers for a couple weeks. |
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| 17:04.56 | beandog | Okay this is driving me nuts. |
| 17:05.05 | beandog | How do I mount a samba share so my user can write to it |
| 17:05.23 | beandog | mount.cifs is not setuid so I can't mount it as a user |
| 17:05.31 | beandog | so I'm using root to mount it |
| 17:08.10 | fungus | -o uid=username,gid=groupname |
| 17:08.54 | beandog | oh yeah, duhr |
| 17:08.55 | beandog | thanks fungus |
| 17:09.00 | beandog | I totally forgot about those options. |
| 17:09.10 | beandog | ~fungus++ |
| 17:09.42 | herlo | fungus: I prefer -o credentials=/etc/creds.txt and then put all my options in a file readable by root-only. |
| 17:10.01 | beandog | herlo, that just has cifs options though |
| 17:10.14 | fungus | I thought credentials was only for connection credentials. you can use it for other options? |
| 17:10.27 | beandog | thats what I wa thinking |
| 17:10.33 | herlo | beandog: oh, I misread |
| 17:10.46 | beandog | herlo, it's not a good morning for you, is it. |
| 17:10.55 | herlo | ~kill beandog |
| 17:10.56 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse anti-proton gun at beandog |
| 17:10.58 | fungus | aw man. I was hoping it was cooler than that. |
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| 17:12.38 | beandog | herlo, thats what I do though, is I have /etc/cifs ... read-only by root |
| 17:14.31 | herlo | indeed |
| 17:15.14 | beandog | then I make my password as long as I can. |
| 17:15.20 | mgeary | "super inverse anti-proton"? would't that just be "proton" Wouldn't "inverse" and "anti" cancel each other out? |
| 17:15.41 | beandog | pwgen 578 -c 1 |
| 17:16.16 | josephscott | $random-number |
| 17:16.16 | raifbot | josephscott your number is : 1,204,771,001 |
| 17:17.09 | beandog | http://ffffunny.com/funny-images/1486/original/tcv80ipepkza7.jpg?1244893223 |
| 17:17.13 | herlo | beandog: check out apg |
| 17:17.24 | herlo | you know, when you are bored one day |
| 17:17.37 | beandog | herlo, okay |
| 17:17.43 | beandog | every moment. |
| 17:18.20 | josephscott | very efficient random number generator |
| 17:18.34 | beandog | herlo, I like passook |
| 17:20.06 | beandog | meh, it wont let me make long strings. |
| 17:27.21 | mgeary | apg++ |
| 17:27.47 | beandog | whats so fancy about it? am I missing something? |
| 17:28.24 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: its the hipster version of pwgen |
| 17:28.53 | beandog | Do I have to wear tight pants before running it then |
| 17:30.39 | TuxToaster | JS question for you all. I've got some custom message box functions I wrote a while back, the create func can accept an array for the buttons that need to be displayed, each item in the array has two items (the button text, and an anon function of what to do when clicked) |
| 17:31.34 | TuxToaster | works fine. But I copied the create function to a new func yesterday for a different type of box, didn't change much else, and now the buttons show up as normal, but the addEventListener doesn't seem to work. Clicking the button doesn't run any functions at all. |
| 17:33.52 | TuxToaster | even if I just do a simple var someFunc = function() { alert('hi'); } and then btn.addEventListener('click', someFunc, false) it doesn't fire. Really strange. |
| 17:35.28 | TuxToaster | hmm, and I might have already found the issue. |
| 17:35.29 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:37.58 | josephscott | glad we could help ;-) |
| 17:38.03 | beandog | Okay these are just creepy: http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/03/16/the-body-as-cultural-text/ |
| 17:41.00 | TuxToaster | yeah apparently something was adding to the innerHTML at the end of the function, which breaks the listeners |
| 17:42.35 | carmony | bummer, I don't think I'm going to be able to go to uphpu this week :( |
| 17:42.44 | beandog | what! |
| 17:42.46 | beandog | ~shun carmony |
| 17:42.47 | ibot | You are dead to me, carmony. |
| 17:42.47 | carmony | I know! |
| 17:43.32 | carmony | best friends of my wife and I are having a party before they move to china for 18 months :P |
| 17:44.06 | josephscott | $lart carmony |
| 17:44.07 | raifbot | teaches carmony that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 17:44.17 | carmony | lol |
| 17:44.44 | beandog | man I remember running a website using Access once ... wow what a joke. |
| 17:44.57 | carmony | I -might- be able to come down for the after party, but we'll see |
| 17:45.26 | josephscott | beandog: haha, I did that a few times, but it was the 90s, everyone was experimenting back then ;-) |
| 17:45.41 | mgeary | me too. Back in '98 |
| 17:45.46 | mgeary | and ColdFusion |
| 17:45.49 | beandog | The thing I remember the most how it was such a *royal pain* to even connect to the DB |
| 17:45.52 | carmony | haha |
| 17:46.05 | carmony | Cold Fusion... I had a site written in that |
| 17:47.04 | josephscott | I remember using access a few times because clients were comfortable updating data in it, so they would just send us new access files from time to time |
| 17:47.36 | beandog | Okay so everytime you are using rsync, with one of the --delete options .. it always deletes stuff on the target host, right? not the source |
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| 17:49.21 | beandog | crap, samba won't let me store .dot files |
| 17:49.24 | beandog | blargh. |
| 17:49.35 | beandog | oh wait, strike that. |
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| 17:52.51 | beandog | Oh I was using -a |
| 17:52.53 | beandog | that won't work |
| 17:53.10 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: apg is no hipster version of anything |
| 17:56.09 | beandog | ugh |
| 17:57.53 | mindjuju | ~josephscott++ |
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| 18:07.40 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 18:07.40 | raifbot | Chuck Norris does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. Chuck Norris goes killing. |
| 18:07.57 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 18:07.57 | raifbot | In museums, Chuck Norris is allowed to touch the artifacts. |
| 18:08.01 | beandog | lol |
| 18:08.06 | josephscott | http://devour.com/video/simon-pegg-nick-frosts-star-wars/ |
| 18:10.25 | herlo | josephscott: oh, that's gotta be funny! Simon Pegg and Nick Frost are *hilarious* |
| 18:10.29 | beandog | herlo is violent today |
| 18:10.34 | beandog | it's that time of month |
| 18:10.38 | herlo | beandog: don't tempt me |
| 18:11.27 | herlo | beandog: actually, today is going pretty awesomely. Except for the lack of sleep, I'm in good shape. Project is going well, should have a good bit done today :) |
| 18:11.44 | beandog | herlo, what you working on |
| 18:12.57 | herlo | http://github.com/herlo/PyCamps |
| 18:13.46 | herlo | beandog: it's a flexible development environment for corporate environments, but as I keep getting into it, it's keeps becoming much more flexible |
| 18:14.40 | beandog | whats a flexbile development environment? |
| 18:14.56 | beandog | oh like a framework? |
| 18:17.02 | herlo | beandog: well, sort of |
| 18:18.07 | herlo | essentially, you can build as many isolated mini-environments as you need, and then when you finish one, you can remove one and create another |
| 18:18.24 | herlo | this one I'm building is php/mysql backed with an apache webserver |
| 18:18.42 | beandog | why is it always mysql? *rant* |
| 18:18.56 | herlo | but it should be able to run postgres/perl with nginx if desired |
| 18:19.05 | beandog | right on |
| 18:19.21 | beandog | thats cool man |
| 18:20.09 | herlo | yeah, mysql is just what the client wants |
| 18:20.19 | beandog | yah |
| 18:20.22 | josephscott | for web software that is meant to support wide deployment across any number of services mysql is the DB common denominator |
| 18:20.33 | herlo | but other hooks would need to be built to handled postgres or other components... |
| 18:21.08 | herlo | josephscott: I concur, other dbs can do it well though, too. It just seems to me that mysql has made it the easiest to accommodate such feats |
| 18:21.12 | beandog | josephscott, not to be antagonistic, everytime someone says that, I just fit Windows in that equation and it works just as well. |
| 18:21.33 | beandog | I have the opinion that MySQL is used a lot because it's popular, not because it's great. |
| 18:21.47 | josephscott | beandog: hardly, way more unix style hosting services than windows |
| 18:22.18 | herlo | I think they all have their place, and uses |
| 18:22.20 | josephscott | for desktop software that would be true |
| 18:24.02 | TuxToaster | I'd use MySQL over Postgres in most cases though. |
| 18:24.42 | josephscott | unless you have a specific need or an interest in pushing a particular product you usually look at what is already out there, not what you'd like to be out there |
| 18:24.46 | herlo | TuxToaster: that's just because you know it better |
| 18:24.47 | TuxToaster | partially because that's what I know, and partially because the times I've had to work with Postgres it seems there's always something simple that it just can't do... or at least only in specific versions. |
| 18:24.59 | herlo | postgres is just as adaptive and flexible as MySQL |
| 18:25.03 | herlo | if not moreso |
| 18:25.24 | TuxToaster | herlo: agreed, mostly. : -) They both have good points. |
| 18:25.29 | herlo | indeed :) |
| 18:26.56 | josephscott | I like postgresql, I'd like to see it continue to grow and spread |
| 18:27.15 | mindjuju | so would eggyknap, thebigdog and others |
| 18:27.29 | eggyknap | ...like a virus. Or slime mold... |
| 18:27.33 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:27.39 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:28.50 | josephscott | I also really like redis, slime or not ;-) |
| 18:32.03 | mindjuju | anybody got a minute to give me perspective on memory utilization |
| 18:32.08 | mindjuju | http://pastebin.com/ERq1Qsfn |
| 18:32.30 | mindjuju | i'm going to try to address with the strategies outlined here |
| 18:32.31 | mindjuju | http://rimuhosting.com/howto/memory.jsp |
| 18:32.42 | mindjuju | under resolving high apache memory utilization |
| 18:33.06 | mindjuju | first num is total mem, second num is total used, third is total free |
| 18:33.18 | mindjuju | timestamp at top of each series |
| 18:34.27 | mindjuju | i'm not sure what changed, but this just started last night |
| 19:03.36 | fungus | mindjuju, depending on where you get the numbers. Usually total used includes cached and buffered memory. |
| 19:03.48 | mindjuju | got it from top |
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| 19:04.03 | DexterTheDragon | top is a liar |
| 19:04.15 | mindjuju | heh |
| 19:07.39 | fungus | mindjuju, get the memory usage from the RES column in top. It's more accurate. |
| 19:10.23 | mindjuju | so is top really a liar |
| 19:10.28 | fungus | or even %mem |
| 19:10.28 | mindjuju | is there something better to use? |
| 19:10.56 | fungus | top isn't necessarily a liar, you just need to understand what it is counting. |
| 19:12.20 | fungus | `free` outputs the data in a more understandable format |
| 19:14.33 | fungus | total = used + free |
| 19:14.53 | fungus | used = buffers + chached + shared + "actual usage" |
| 19:15.54 | josephscott | well, shared is a bit special |
| 19:16.21 | fungus | that's true, but in most situations shared =0 |
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| 19:22.10 | mindjuju | wehn is SXSW ? |
| 19:22.50 | josephscott | now, wrapping in the next day or so |
| 19:23.00 | mindjuju | is that why twitter having issues? |
| 19:24.41 | mindjuju | @fungus - http://www.youtube.com/ladygaga |
| 19:24.41 | josephscott | no idea |
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| 19:24.57 | mindjuju | you can ask / vote on question to ask |
| 19:25.18 | fungus | nice. ala Digg Dialogg |
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| 19:42.22 | mindjuju | poeticintensity |
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| 19:52.14 | PoeticIntensity | si senor...? |
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| 20:06.18 | mindjuju | keepalive in http.conf sounds like a goodthing to be on, why wouldn't i want it? |
| 20:08.33 | herlo | very few cases |
| 20:08.39 | herlo | magento is actually one of them |
| 20:09.01 | herlo | for some reason, it interferes with performance, but overall, I'd use KeepAlive on |
| 20:09.38 | josephscott | I keep hearing how magento is so rough on sites/HTTP, makes me wonder what it is doing |
| 20:17.41 | PoeticIntensity | ~ping mindjuju |
| 20:17.41 | ibot | pong mindjuju |
| 20:18.24 | herlo | josephscott: not sure, I haven't dug into that area. Just read about it |
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| 21:03.48 | mgeary | hey _psychic_ |
| 21:03.56 | _psychic_ | sir |
| 21:04.18 | mgeary | can you comment on my initial experience that Cake + SOAP == dog slow? |
| 21:04.32 | mgeary | are there any known gripes in that direction? |
| 21:04.43 | _psychic_ | well yeah |
| 21:04.46 | _psychic_ | SOAP is slow ;) |
| 21:04.58 | _psychic_ | Are you using cake as the client or server? |
| 21:05.06 | mgeary | server |
| 21:05.12 | mgeary | with NuSOAP |
| 21:05.20 | mgeary | which is probably going to be slower, as it's all-php |
| 21:05.28 | _psychic_ | yeah. Old php at that. |
| 21:05.51 | mgeary | we inherited this system, trying to identify solutions that wouldn't destabilize the core of the app |
| 21:07.26 | josephscott | op code cache installed already? |
| 21:08.08 | mgeary | doubt it |
| 21:09.10 | mgeary | what's the current darling in that category? Used to be APC, but i don't know if that's fallen out of favor lately... |
| 21:13.19 | influx | The result of a ternary expression must always be assigned to a variable, right? |
| 21:14.36 | orsonj | I don't believe that is a requirement |
| 21:16.32 | orsonj | I think you can do stuff like: echo "hello ".(is_string($a)?$a:"world"); |
| 21:18.15 | josephscott | mgeary: I generally recommend APC for that |
| 21:18.15 | influx | What I had in mind was stuff like: ( 1 == 1 ) ? echo 'yes' : echo 'no'; |
| 21:18.55 | influx | or something like "echo 'yes'" for true and "derp()" for false. |
| 21:22.10 | DexterTheDragon | influx: echo (( 1 == 1 ) ? 'yes' : 'no'); |
| 21:25.38 | influx | :] |
| 21:28.34 | orsonj | function a() { echo "f"; return "a"; } echo (1==1 ? "yes" : a()) . (1==0 ? "yes" : a()); |
| 21:28.45 | orsonj | outputs: fyesa |
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| 21:48.14 | mindjuju | so if my server time is right, and I've specified the timezone in PHP to America/Denver, how can the time be wrong? |
| 21:48.44 | mindjuju | querying date with a simple echo date('D,F j, Y, h:i:s A'); |
| 21:49.37 | herlo | stderr-: you around? |
| 21:49.50 | mindjuju | seems to think that it's in eastern time even though phpinfo confirms php thinks it is in denver |
| 21:49.58 | fungus | mindjuju, does `date` on your server reflect the same timezone |
| 21:50.09 | herlo | stderr-: got a semi-difficult argparse question, one which you may have run into before |
| 21:50.16 | mindjuju | @fungus, date show this |
| 21:50.17 | mindjuju | Wed Mar 16 17:47:35 MDT 2011 |
| 21:50.36 | fungus | I wish |
| 21:50.43 | fungus | Fix that first. |
| 21:50.47 | herlo | lol |
| 21:50.54 | herlo | the date is sooo wrong |
| 21:52.15 | fungus | hehe, after you fix the time, setup NTP |
| 21:52.57 | herlo | ntp ftw! |
| 21:53.05 | herlo | mindjuju: it will save you! |
| 21:59.10 | stderr- | herlo: what up |
| 21:59.17 | herlo | stderr-: so here's the scenario |
| 21:59.21 | stderr- | kk |
| 21:59.22 | herlo | pretty simple problem if you ask me |
| 21:59.33 | herlo | I want to have multiple optional parameters |
| 21:59.39 | herlo | like --desc or --url |
| 21:59.44 | herlo | for a command |
| 21:59.54 | stderr- | right |
| 21:59.57 | herlo | and I want *at* *least* one of them to be required |
| 22:00.06 | herlo | but I see no way to make this happen |
| 22:00.14 | herlo | in argparse |
| 22:00.33 | stderr- | hmmm, let me open up a Python interpreter and play around for a sec |
| 22:00.46 | herlo | kk, I've been playing :) |
| 22:00.50 | herlo | thanks for looking |
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| 22:03.08 | herlo | stderr-: I think I figured it out |
| 22:03.24 | stderr- | groups? |
| 22:03.30 | herlo | nargs = '*' apparently will do what I want. Haven't tested it yet, but it was staring me in the face the whole time |
| 22:03.45 | stderr- | hm, alright |
| 22:03.46 | herlo | '+'. Just like '*', all command-line args present are gathered into a list. Additionally, an error message will be generated if there wasnât at least one command-line arg present. |
| 22:05.58 | herlo | thanks stderr- |
| 22:06.08 | stderr- | ;-) |
| 22:07.19 | orsonj | simply being available to have a question asked to your face solves ~30% of troubleshooting problems. |
| 22:07.29 | orsonj | or nick in this case |
| 22:08.41 | herlo | stderr-: that's not it |
| 22:08.58 | herlo | stoopid explanation |
| 22:09.22 | herlo | it says if I use something like foo a b will work, but if I do just foo, it will fail. That's not at all what I want |
| 22:09.48 | herlo | I want to have all the arguments collected and if at least one argument doesn't show, then I complain |
| 22:09.55 | stderr- | check out groups and mutually exclusive groups |
| 22:09.57 | herlo | I thought argument_groups would work, but so far, I'm at a loss |
| 22:10.13 | stderr- | mutually exclusive groups are a little opposite of how I understand you want it, but in the right direction |
| 22:10.14 | herlo | stderr-: yeah mutually_exclusive_groups is the opposite of what I want |
| 22:10.35 | herlo | groups won't do it either, since that's just a formatting thing, mostly |
| 22:11.30 | stderr- | um, I think |
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