IRC log for #uphpu on 20110315

00:00.57herlomindjuju: who uses the app?  What kind of transactions occur on the thin clients?
00:01.19herlooverall, thin clients can (and will) generate as much traffic as any other system, but a lot of times, they don't
00:01.21mindjujuwell, i'm thinking i want to turn some 30 warehouse computers into thin clients
00:01.28herlobut since it's java, who knows
00:01.36mindjujuhere is what is going on
00:01.48herlomindjuju: like neoware?
00:02.04mindjujui have 30 laptops, just straight up laptops, deployed throughout the warehouse
00:02.27mindjujuand each one is has winders XP cinched down with SteadyState to prevent the peons from doing dumbness
00:02.46mindjujuand everytime there is the slightest update, it take HOURS to update all the laptops
00:02.56mindjujuand i'm looking for a way to stop the madness
00:03.08herloindeed
00:03.25herloprobably the fastest way to deploy and keep things locked down
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00:03.53herloalso, I might suggest looking into xguest
00:04.13mindjujui was looking at http://anywherets.com
00:04.25mindjujuit just went OSS
00:04.34herloyou can lock down a machine to basically do nothing more than login, launch web browser (or limited number of apps) and exit
00:04.36mindjujubut that's where the question of network traffic cam eup
00:04.43herlomindjuju: right
00:04.49mindjujusee, that's exactly what i want
00:04.57herloso what kind of traffic happens now is likely going to be the same
00:05.10herlobut what's nice about ltsp, the traffic all comes from the one 'beefy' server
00:05.42mindjujuis it possible for the terminal server to print to a locally connected printer (connected to the thin client)?
00:06.38herloyes, it can print
00:06.42herloit's Linux
00:06.55herloyou may also want to look into multi-seat linux
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00:09.09MorrisCoxWSUS? :)
00:10.00mindjujunow that is funny
00:10.06MorrisCoxWindows Server Update Services.
00:10.33MorrisCoxBBL Helping the wife/boss with dinner.
00:10.40mindjuju:)
00:11.23mindjujusee you gents later, i've got to hurry along to class
00:11.57mindjuju@herlo, you going to be around?  I need some advice to get some traction going for UTOS
00:11.58herlociao
00:12.18herlomindjuju: maybe, I've been on my computer all day today, so probably going to take a break in an hour for dinner
00:12.24mindjujuk
00:12.24herlowe'll see if I'm still online.
00:12.34mindjujucya
00:15.38beandogdoh
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00:20.31ninnypants$chuck-fact
00:20.32raifbotRemember the Soviet Union? They decided to quit after watching a DeltaForce marathon on Satellite TV.
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01:01.32DexterTheDragonmindjuju: best info I've seen http://gizmodo.com/#!5781660/just-how-bad-is-japans-radiation-problem
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03:19.33ninnypants$chuck-fact
03:19.33raifbotChuck Norris can win a game of Connect Four in only three moves.
03:28.55josephscott$lart the conspiracy nuts
03:28.55raifbotslams the conspiracy nuts against a large cement Tux.
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03:51.20ninnypantsjosephscott: conspiracy nuts?
03:51.57josephscottfolks who manage to see a secret evil overlord behind every kitten
03:52.21ninnypantsI thought the kittens were the secret evil ovelords
03:53.29ninnypantsjosephscott: you refering to this? http://bankofamericasuck.com/
03:54.01josephscotthaha, no
03:54.30ninnypantsthe video on there is very interesting
03:56.57DexterTheDragon~lart evil kitten overlords
03:56.57ibotgives evil kitten overlords an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending evil kitten overlords to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple
03:57.14DexterTheDragonnow its the futures problem
03:57.37ninnypantsheh
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04:04.05josephscottutah records plot thickens - http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705368666/GOP-lawmaker-apologizes-for-HB477-vote-saying-he-feared-retaliation.html
04:05.39ninnypantsahh read that too but on ksl
04:05.48ninnypantsI think he's just trying to save his seat
04:06.07ninnypantsafter all if you make it 10 years you get insurance for life
04:06.46DexterTheDragonalways a great reason to screw democracy
04:08.43josephscottdidn't utah pass a law saying we aren't a democracy though?
04:09.21ninnypantsyeah I think it went through last session it was just passed and signed in one day
04:10.23DexterTheDragonyes its a republic not a democracy
04:10.50ninnypantsthat's true
04:12.27josephscotthere we go
04:12.29josephscotthttp://le.utah.gov/~2011/bills/hbillamd/hb0220.htm
04:12.43josephscottcompound constitutional republic
04:12.57josephscottnot that anyone actually knows what that means
04:13.24josephscottand I'm not sure why we need a state law that attempts to label the form of government used in the US
04:16.29ninnypantsthey like to double everything
04:16.34ninnypantsjust to make sure
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04:49.03josephscotthahahaha! die bugs!
05:16.04josephscott$lart sleep
05:16.04raifbottakes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down sleep's throat until sleep puts on 150lbs.
05:17.43josephscott$chuck-fact
05:17.44raifbotWhen Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn't lifting himself up, he's pushing the Earth down.
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14:49.50mgearybah
14:50.37mgearySkype needs to realize that people really don't want their UI to take up a quarter of their screen
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14:58.24influx~karma++ DexterTheDragon
14:58.38influx~karma+ DexterTheDragon
14:58.51influxHuh.
14:59.00influxHow do I give someone karma?
14:59.05mgeary~DexterTheDragon++
14:59.13influxOh there we go.
14:59.14influxHah.
14:59.25influxThanks, mgeary.
15:00.13influxDexterTheDragon: There were some very minor adjustments made to the query you pasted, but that aside, it's a huge improvement on what I had written. Thanks!
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15:20.03DexterTheDragoninflux: no problem
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15:43.42josephscott$chuck-fact
15:43.42raifbotChuck Norris ended the song that never ends
15:43.56PoeticIntensityLOL
15:53.07influxha
15:56.51influxnote to self: Wear longjohns.
15:58.19ninnypantsinflux: why long johns?
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16:01.46influxBecause it's still a little cold out in the mornings + the garage door opening lets the air out.
16:02.02influxJeans don't provide much insulation.
16:02.34ninnypantsahh figured you'd be warm next to the dryer
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16:04.26influxI'm sure I'm better off than I would be if I were closer to the garage door.
16:06.04josephscott$weather sandy, ut
16:06.04raifbotjosephscott - current weather for sandy, ut - Cloudy 40f / 4c Humidity: 78% Wind: SE at 9 mph
16:07.54mindjuju$weather tokyo
16:07.55raifbotmindjuju - current weather for tokyo  - Cloudy 51f / 11c Humidity: 80% Wind: SW at 1 mph
16:09.14DexterTheDragonhopefully the wind spends more time blowing east
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16:09.53influx$weather 84062
16:09.53raifbotinflux - current weather for 84062 - Cloudy 40f / 4c Humidity: 73% Wind: E at 6 mph
16:10.17_psychic_$weather Sea of Tranquility
16:10.18raifbot_psychic_ - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for Sea of Tranquility
16:10.21_psychic_lame.
16:11.36DexterTheDragonmindjuju: you see the link I sent last night?
16:11.49mindjujuyeah, just read it
16:11.55mindjujuthe gizmodo one, right?
16:12.09DexterTheDragonyeah
16:12.58mindjujuso what's wrong with this song? http://tinyurl.com/6bdnrp3
16:13.12mindjujuit sounds as bad as everything pop does now
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16:15.28mgearymindjuju: oh gosh. that makes me want to stick a fork in my ears. And eyes.
16:15.44mindjujuyeah, but my question is, is it any worse than anything else out there?
16:18.02mgearyi don't know. i just know it's awful
16:18.25ninnypantsmindjuju: the others seem to at least have a handle on autotune
16:20.16fungusmindjuju, lol, do you realize your actions of publicizing it, are making the trend worse.
16:21.31mindjujui'm not saying it's bad
16:21.46mindjujunor that it should / shouldn't be talked about
16:21.58mindjujui'm saying is it worse?
16:23.27fungusYes, it is worse.
16:25.56influxFunny.
16:26.08influxI haven't listened to the song, yet, but I heard someone talking about it on XBL last night.
16:26.33influxThey made a comment very much like ninnypants' in sentiment.
16:27.04mindjujumaybe it's my near 40yr old ears, but all of it on the radio right now sounds like junk
16:27.27fungusI disagree, there's a lot of good stuff still.  
16:27.39mindjujusend link, maybe i missed it
16:27.54mindjujuor name, and i'll youtube it
16:27.58ninnypants$8ball should I restart for IE9?
16:27.58raifbotninnypants - Signs point to yes.
16:28.14ninnypants$8ball is that sound advice?
16:28.14raifbotninnypants - Concentrate and ask again.
16:28.24ninnypants$8ball is that sound advice?
16:28.24raifbotninnypants - Reply hazy, try again.
16:28.28influxlol
16:28.50ninnypantshmm I think there's something raifbot isn't telling me
16:29.32influx$8ball Are you just messing with him?
16:29.32raifbotinflux - It is decidedly so.
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16:31.47ninnypantspop is only good for pop goes punk albums http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xwXOj55nIY
16:34.49DexterTheDragonthat and techno mixes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=343gUAV3JWw
16:35.48influxOk, so I closed my eyes while I listened to the track.
16:36.20mindjujuDtD, that link is much better
16:36.23influxAnd it's not all that bad, when only judging on vocals alone.
16:36.36mindjujuyup, my point exactly influx
16:36.50mindjujusure, it's pre-teen sugary junk, but not that much different than anything else
16:36.58influxReminds me of Radio Disney.
16:37.08fungusit's even worse than that
16:37.11mindjuju^5
16:37.37influxWho are you high-fiving?
16:37.42mindjujuyou
16:37.43influx:)
16:37.44influx^5
16:38.01DezertolRadio Disney
16:38.12Dezertolthat's funny
16:38.16ninnypantsDexterTheDragon: cant say I was a fan of britney's singing but the techno was good
16:41.08influxninnypants: There was a metal cover of a Britney Spears song. Not terrible.
16:41.24ninnypantsI think you told me about it
16:41.30mindjujuseems like Lady Gaga has inherited the mantel from Madonna as far as fashion / music
16:41.37influxI agree.
16:47.41mindjujuwe don't get city weekly here, so i have no idea the social goings on anymore
16:52.12influxI think that they have a website too.
16:52.24influxI never check it though.
16:52.27influxNever think to.
16:55.29stderr-gonna start making a workbench tonight woot
16:55.44mindjujuthat one you posted the other day?
16:56.00stderr-which one did I post?
16:56.16mindjujuworkbench / table saw extension
16:56.22stderr-oh no
16:56.37stderr-Building a large oak workbench with builtin wood clamps
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16:58.07mindjujusounds cool, got a pic online somewhere?
16:58.21mindjujudid you ever find a router bit set up to snuff?
16:59.11mindjuju~welcome dharmatech
16:59.11ibotdharmatech, Sup yo?
16:59.26mindjujui can't think of your name, but i can remember meeting you at a UPHPU meet a while ago
16:59.26stderr-pic: http://www.finewoodworking.com/item/25976/hickory-and-red-oak-workbench
16:59.41stderr-mindjuju: yea, found a nice router bit set
16:59.58mindjuju@dharmatech, you were going to present once, but it fell through for some reason i don't remember
17:00.10mindjuju@stderr, that looks awesome!
17:00.20mindjujureminds me of something we had in Shop in high school
17:01.52stderr-yea, plan is out of a really good book: http://www.amazon.com/Workbenches-Design-Construction-Popular-Woodworking/dp/1558708405
17:11.14dharmatechmindjuju: happy to present at some point. was thinking about coming to the meeting this thurs if it's still on.
17:14.10Utah_Davestderr-: that bench looks awesome.
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17:14.32macnewboldmindjuju: pm?
17:15.25mindjujuk, i'm back.  
17:16.08mindjuju@dharmatech, that'd be awesome.  my brain is foggy but i seem to remember you guys had some kind of framework y'all were going to present on
17:16.19mindjujuwhat was your name again, starts with a W doesn't it?
17:16.20beandogmy framework is vim
17:17.09dharmatechmindjuju: you might be thinking of walt. he worked with us a while ago. he was probably going to present on drupal.
17:17.14macnewbolddharmatech: i could do you one better if you want - you can come to the meeting thursday _and_ present :)
17:17.22mindjujuthat's it, Walt
17:17.28mindjujuSo this isn't Walt?
17:17.46dharmatechnope, jason.
17:18.19mindjujuHowdy Jason!  We're you the one that presented at UTOS?  the presentation with the people with the beards?
17:18.27dharmatechit's just two of us now. we were a nonprofit, now an llc.
17:18.34dharmatechmindjuju: yep. :)
17:18.44mindjujuthat was an AWESOME presentation
17:18.53*** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Seeking presenter for Meeting Thursday 3/17 @ 7pm - contact macnewbold | Utah PHP Users Group  |  uphpu.org
17:18.57dharmatechtwo ignite talks. "growing your unix mastery"
17:18.58mindjujui still remember the slide with the ladies and their "beards"
17:19.06beandog3/17?  Thats like ... almost tomorrow.
17:19.23macnewboldyeah, it's thursday beandog
17:19.25beandogI could present on the science of ripping DVDs
17:19.26macnewboldst patricks day too
17:19.27beandogwhee
17:19.30macnewboldoooh
17:19.39macnewboldif that interests others, i'm down for it :)
17:19.40beandogsoooo many caveats.
17:20.06mindjujuactually, it seems like everywhere I turn, more companies are putting video on the web
17:20.12mindjujueither through youtube, or hosting on their servers
17:20.13macnewboldand several times i've had to convert content from a DVD to play on the web (usually used FLV)
17:20.29mindjujui could see how PHP + Vid or even HTML + Vid could be an awesome preso
17:20.58macnewboldbeandog: you serious about presenting? if you want it, it's yours
17:21.11stderr-Utah_Dave: yea, I'm pretty stoked
17:21.12macnewboldoddly enough, we have April covered, but didn't find anyone for March
17:22.31Utah_Davebeandog: I'd love a presentation on that!
17:37.07beandogoh man
17:37.11beandogdid I just paint myself into a corner
17:37.43beandogI could do one, but not this week.  Ive got too much on my plate
17:38.26mindjuju:)
17:38.30mindjujuwe ambushed you
17:39.01beandogwhat stuff would you guys want to know
17:39.06mindjujucould prolly write it down for May or June
17:39.16mindjujucompression / quality
17:39.24beandogI can think of a couple of topics
17:41.01mindjujubrb
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17:59.46influxhey DexterTheDragon , what exactly does GROUP BY products_id do in your query?
18:00.22beandoginflux, if you have multiple rows where that same value is the same, it will only gather unique rows where that value is the same
18:00.35beandogwow, that was ambigious.
18:00.48herloyup
18:00.50DexterTheDragoninflux: it groups the products together so the SUM works
18:00.50beandoginflux, basically, if you have multiple rows where its the same data, you group them.
18:00.51herlo:)
18:01.08beandoginflux, where the group by value is the one that is unique.
18:01.33beandogthat probably didnt help either.
18:01.41beandogmeh
18:01.43DexterTheDragon~confuse beandog
18:01.43ibotyes how was our pants tomorrow ?
18:02.53influxheh
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18:03.24influxDexterTheDragon: Roger that.
18:03.38herloibot: the same as your smells elbow, you know?
18:06.14influxThis energy drink is destroying my sore throat.
18:06.28influxErr, the soreness in my throat.
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18:06.58herlois that a good thing?
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18:07.37influxYes. Less irritation.
18:07.51influxThat I can feel, anyway.
18:08.36herlonice
18:08.45herloseems everyone has colds these days...
18:08.53herlomy gf is been out for the count for the past two days
18:13.25influxBummer. :|
18:19.53macnewbold~cookie
18:30.48influx$8ball rock?
18:30.48raifbotinflux - Ask again later.
18:30.53influx$8ball roll?
18:30.54raifbotinflux - You may rely on it.
18:31.34macnewbold$chuck-fact
18:31.34raifbotIf Superman and The Flash were to race to the edge of space you know who would win? Chuck Norris.
18:32.14influxHow do I add a chuck fact?
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18:53.03josephscottinflux: send them my way
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19:08.20mgearyhey fungus
19:08.42fungusyeh sugnuf
19:08.43mgearyi've got a virtualHost issue that is getting me. I've done this dozens of times before, but something is screwy here.
19:09.45mgearyso, namedVirtualHosting works. i have 2 domains that both respond on a server
19:10.19mgearybut one of the domains isn't responding to domain.com, only to www.domain.com. The ServerName is domain.com, and there's a ServerAlias for www.domain.com
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19:10.28mgearybut requests to domain.com are going to the default vhost
19:10.30mgearynot to the named on
19:10.31mgearyone
19:11.28fungusdo they both resolve to the same IP
19:11.31mgearyyes
19:11.44mgearyanatomyexpert.com and www.anatomyexpert.com
19:12.05mgearystage.anatomyexpert.com also works, and correctly resolves to another vhost
19:12.21mgearybut anatomyexpert.com hits the default vhost for some reason
19:12.46mgearynow, when i restart apache, i do get this:
19:12.48fungusIs the servername spelled correctly?  I know it sounds silly
19:12.56mgearyapache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using anatomyexpert.com for ServerName
19:12.56mgeary<PROTECTED>
19:13.26mgearyyes, i've copied and pasted the servername
19:13.42fungushehe, just checking.  I do that a lot
19:13.52fungusThat warning could be your issue.
19:14.39fungusTwo options to fix it:  1. Set a ServerName in the global config manually,  or 2. Add a better hostname to your hosts file for your local IP.
19:14.50herlowow, gitolite rocks
19:15.36mgearyfungus: i changed the hosts and i don't get the warning any more, but i still get the problem
19:18.10mgearyas a test, i removed both the ServerName and the ServerAlias directives, and it did indeed break the www site
19:21.36funguscan't think of anything.  Try swapping the ServerName and ServerAlias
19:21.56fungusSee if the problem follows the config directive, or the name
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19:25.32ninnypantsdo dogs chase cats? http://www.thedogfiles.com/2011/03/15/geicos-do-dogs-chase-cats-funny-commercial/
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19:37.43mgearyweird. i fixed it by putting a ServerName in the default vhost
19:38.05fungusoh, you didn't have one?
19:38.19fungusThat's an interesting interaction
19:38.26fungusYay, I learned something new
19:38.39mgearythough i still don't get why the other vhost worked
19:38.42mgearyshrug
19:39.12fungusI think it has something tangentially related to that warning earlier.
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19:47.38influxAck.
19:47.47influxForgot how to make a table break at table headers when printing.
19:47.48influxHalp.
19:49.35TuxToasterin CSS?
19:49.56TuxToasterth { page-break-before: always; } I believe
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20:01.06ninnypants$chuck-fact
20:01.07raifbotChuck Norris can slam a revolving door.
20:01.16ninnypants$chuck-fact
20:01.16raifbotChuck Norris does not get frostbite. Chuck Norris bites frost.
20:01.39TuxToasterlol
20:01.43TuxToaster$rlart
20:01.43raifbotbeats dharmatech into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy.
20:02.36Dezertolhave you have seen the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny
20:03.00Dezertolever time someone does a chuck-fact that's that I think of
20:03.50beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/Il6Ae.jpg
20:03.51beandoglol
20:03.52Dezertolhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WgT9gy4zQA
20:11.43ninnypantsDezertol: chuck doesn't actually win
20:12.37ninnypantsbeandog: that comic was awesome
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20:19.32stderr-Chuck Norris sucks.
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20:26.46beandogninnypants, that was an awesome dog story
20:28.49DexterTheDragonmindjuju: beandog http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1949406
20:31.32beandogDexterTheDragon, lol
20:31.45beandogstarted kinda slow
20:33.41beandoghttp://www.collegehumor.com/video:1949406
20:39.07josephscottanyone know what the plans are for the uphpu meeting this thursday?
20:39.38beandogjosephscott, you're assigned to bring cookies
20:40.12josephscottmmmmm, cookies
20:45.25macnewboldjosephscott: beandog volunteered to present :-D
20:45.38josephscottcool, what is the topic?
20:47.15beandogripping DVDs, it looks like
20:47.30mindjujuare you presenting this month after all beandog?
20:47.36beandogmindjuju, I guess so
20:47.56mindjujupoor beandog :)
20:48.32beandoghttp://spaceparanoids.org/tmp/uphpu.dvd.txt
20:48.36beandogthere's what Im gonna cover
20:48.54mindjujuthat would be awesome!
20:49.26beandogI could have covered ripping blurays as well, but I dont have everything I need for that.
20:52.53beandogplus it takes like 45 minutes to rip one.
20:55.16DexterTheDragonand you have to crack a PS3 which results in sony sueing you
20:55.42beandogOh, no, it's easy with PS3s
20:55.46beandogYou just dump the ISO
20:55.50beandogI did mine with a BD-ROM
20:56.20DexterTheDragonpretty sure sony still sues at some point
20:57.35stderr-people still use "discs"?  Lordy!
20:58.03orsonjwell, they still have more bandwidth than my isp
20:59.00beandogheh
20:59.11beandogIts the only way to get some stuff
20:59.12beandogsadly.
20:59.17beandogLike Pole Position or Thundarr
20:59.22beandogwell, legally.
20:59.50stderr->_>
21:00.07beandogI think I broke stderr-
21:02.10*** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting Thursday 3/17 @ 7pm -  beandog on Ripping and Encoding DVDs | Utah PHP Users Group  |  uphpu.org
21:05.09macnewbold~break stderr-
21:05.09ibotACTION installs Windows into stderr-'s brain, reboots it, adds more Microsoft products, and reboots again.
21:05.20TuxToasterlol
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21:06.59beandogthat was awesome
21:07.14agsjosephscott: I heard from herlo that you might know a thing or two about wordpress
21:07.34josephscottI have some experience in that area
21:07.51herlolol, *some*
21:08.25ags:)
21:11.34agsI didn't see anywhere in our templates, so I'm just assuming wordpress was adding it
21:17.53josephscottsorry, conf call going at the same time, forgot to check back
21:18.39josephscottags: specific example?  Location is generally used for redirects
21:19.31agslet's say we have a blog @ www.mydomain.com
21:19.45agswell, www.mydomain.com/blog
21:20.19josephscottok
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21:21.35agswe also have a virtualhost eu.mydomain.com, that a request is redirected to if they come from an ip in europe
21:22.05josephscottwhat detects that the IP is from Europe?
21:22.09agshowever, when they hit /blog, they get redirected back to www
21:22.43beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/McY7G.jpg
21:22.56agsthere is a proxy in front of the webserver that does the detection and redirect
21:24.34josephscottso www.mydomain.com/blog/ redirects to www.mydomain.com/ ?
21:24.52agsno, sorry
21:25.13DexterTheDragonno eu.example.com/blog redirects to www.example.com/blog
21:25.17agsin this example, eu.mydomain.com/blog gets redirected to www.mydomain.com/blog
21:26.00josephscottinteresting, does the WP know anything about eu.mydomain.com/blog/?  Is it used the settings any where?
21:26.15agsno, it doesn't know about it
21:26.28agsI read a bit on mappings, but it didn't sound like the right solution
21:27.11josephscottsounds like WP isn't likely the source of the redirect then
21:27.28josephscottanything else in the HTTP headers that indicates what generated the response?
21:27.54josephscottit is possible remove one of the variables and still test that would likely help
21:28.06josephscotts/it is/if it is/
21:29.41agsno additional information in the headers, but there may be some variables I can control for
21:30.41agsproxy has been removed, so presumably it's apache or wordpress that's the culprit
21:31.12agsI'll see what I can turn up, thanks for the help
21:31.56agsthere's nothing in the latest wordpress to prevent having multiple subdomains point to the same blog, correct?
21:33.45josephscottnope, current version would be fine with multi-site support turned on
21:34.51agssweet
21:35.56agsthanks again
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21:41.42josephscottags: np, let me know what you find out
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21:52.31influxPepsi & Mountain Dew Throwbacks back for good.
21:55.04mgearyinflux_revere: i don't think i even know what that means
21:59.23influx_revereThey are now a regular product.
21:59.36mgearyso there's a "Pepsi Throwback" product?
21:59.42influx_revereyes
21:59.44influx_revereone sec
22:00.01influx_revereThe throwbacks contain pure cane sugar instead of
22:00.04influx_revereHCFS.
22:00.17mgearyaha
22:00.35funguseh, it's still Pepsi.  yuck
22:00.40mgearyso you get truly sweet battery acid, instead of artificially-sweet battery acid
22:02.01influx_revereYes.
22:02.05influx_revere*fistpump*
22:02.14DexterTheDragon~say hi DexterTheDragon
22:02.14ibothi DexterTheDragon
22:02.26influx_revere~lart fungus
22:02.26ibotinstalls PocketPC on fungus's PDA
22:03.52fungus$lart influx_revere
22:03.52raifbottakes influx_revere to the vet for a "special" visit.
22:04.26influx_revereYay! Field trip!
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22:28.16DexterTheDragonSunSparc: http://vimeo.com/11386048
22:40.26mgearyhey PoeticIntensity
22:40.38mgearyyou've got some sound engineering experience, no?
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22:43.22beandogSunSparc, there you are.  happy bday!
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22:49.34PoeticIntensityyo
22:49.37PoeticIntensitymgeary, yes
22:50.25PoeticIntensityrunning a fairly successful recording studio, and seriously considering it as a full-time possibility.
22:50.28mgearyPoeticIntensity: it's my understanding that there are some pretty sophisticated tools to transpose recorded music from one key to another. Are you familiar with this process at all?
22:50.58PoeticIntensityuhh... my guess is it is possible, however, my guess is also that it is extremely difficult to do musically.
22:51.16mgearywell, i know that there are tools that do it, though i don't use any of them
22:51.23beandogmgeary, are you trying to tell us you're an alto?
22:51.29mgearyheh
22:51.37PoeticIntensityin order to alter the pitch of everything (including non-musical sounds such as percussion), you simply increase or decrease the frequency of the samples.
22:51.56PoeticIntensity(when dealing with a digital recording)
22:52.17mgearyPoeticIntensity: i'm trying to find out if there are any tools that could be deployed on a server to transpose something on demand
22:52.31PoeticIntensityto be honest, your guess is as good as mine.
22:52.46mgearyi'm sure sox can do some stuff, but i suspect there is commercial software that does it better, but i wouldn't even know where to start looking
22:52.47PoeticIntensityI'm not familiar with any pro-audio tools for transposing.
22:53.06PoeticIntensitymidi-based music is different..  Easy to transpose that.
22:56.22PoeticIntensityhrm...
22:56.28PoeticIntensityon second thought...
22:56.44PoeticIntensityI have used a pitch-altering plugin..
22:56.55PoeticIntensitynever thought about it as "transposing", though...
22:57.23PoeticIntensitynever considered using it on a fully-produced recording.
22:57.37PoeticIntensityI use it to lower vocals into a growl sometimes...
22:57.44PoeticIntensityor to chipmunk vocals...
22:57.53PoeticIntensitywithout altering timing...
23:00.15mindjujusup pi
23:00.23mindjujuhey sunsparc, happy bday yesterday
23:00.34mindjujudidn't see you were here until just now
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23:23.00fungushttp://bit.ly/EL8pN
23:28.00beandogwtc
23:28.32redroyhey all, I have a query that I'm dumping into a csv file via fputcsv… the client requires there to be a zero in the first column for every entry. Would it be bad or wrong to just use SELECT '0' AS foo in my query…? it works, I've just never come across this before.
23:28.47beandogredroy, yah, thats fine
23:29.15redroymucho thanks, beandog
23:31.28fungusbeandog, some strange moroccan childrens song someone infected me with
23:31.44beandogfungus, and you've decided to spread the plague.
23:31.46beandogyou're a carrier!
23:31.59fungusYes.  call my Ramsamsam Mary
23:33.18beandog~smack mindjuju
23:33.18ibotACTION smacks mindjuju upside the head.
23:33.33mindjujuque?
23:35.02beandogit's a sign
23:38.04DexterTheDragon~say DexterTheDragon test
23:38.04ibotDexterTheDragon test
23:39.05SunSparcmindjuju: Thanks!!
23:39.27mindjujui would have said something yesterday, but i didn't see you in the IRC
23:40.04beandoghow can you miss DexterTheDragon
23:40.05SunSparcYeah, I took the day off.  :)
23:40.08beandogoh, SunSparc
23:40.13SunSparc:)
23:40.21DexterTheDragon~say DexterTheDragon test
23:40.21ibotDexterTheDragon test
23:40.24beandogHe's too cool to hang with us on his birthday
23:40.32beandogSunSparc, how old
23:40.47SunSparc18
23:40.52beandogwut
23:40.55mindjuju$8ball did sunsparc turn 18 yesterday?
23:40.56raifbotmindjuju - Yes.
23:41.02SunSparclol
23:41.10beandog$8ball does SunSparc have pants on fire
23:41.11raifbotbeandog - Reply hazy, try again.
23:41.13mindjujuand there you have it
23:41.25beandogwhen all else fails, ask 8ball
23:41.27SunSparc+20
23:41.33beandog$8ball are you my hero
23:41.33raifbotbeandog - Cannot predict now.
23:42.13SunSparcOk, then, night all!
23:44.09beandogwow I just made my first PDF
23:44.15beandogI'm a coder.
23:44.35mindjujuusing PHP?
23:44.51beandogyah
23:45.49beandogbrowsers need a plugin to display pdfs in page
23:46.31fungusbeandog, Chrome
23:46.38beandogoh does Chrome have one?
23:46.40beandogIm developing in ff
23:46.42fungusyup
23:46.49beandogniiiiice
23:46.54fungusNot the best, but it's there
23:46.59fungusYay.  
23:47.12beandog~fungus++
23:47.17fungushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye8mB6VsUHw
23:47.42beandogokay that totally makes up for the last one
23:50.27beandoghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh8b4qh-jW0&NR=1
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23:50.45beandogI need some guy smiley
23:51.12beandoghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ex3leQNaOg
23:51.16beandogthat would make an awesome tv show
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