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00:23.40mgearyanyone here do much development for Facebook pages?
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00:49.10_psychic_mgeary: I do
00:49.58_psychic_bbl
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03:39.09josephscottwhy yes, I am watching UHF while working
03:42.14mastergunnsUltra High Frequency, doesn't that hurt yer eyes a little?
03:42.43josephscottweird al protects my eyes :-)
03:49.07mastergunnsplease do. we need you see perfectly.
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04:11.47beandog_any married folk around wanna help me with a research paper?
04:11.51beandog_D:
04:11.53beandog_:D
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05:52.40josephscottspatcula
05:53.29josephscotts/spatcula/spatula/
05:53.37josephscottspatula city!
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06:43.54josephscott$8ball is UHF the greatest movie ever?
06:43.54raifbotjosephscott - Outlook not so good.
06:44.09josephscott$8ball what! how can you say that?  are you sure?
06:44.09raifbotjosephscott - Ask again later.
06:44.19josephscott$lart raifbot
06:44.19raifbotbrandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, raifbot!" and lops off raifbot's head.
06:55.32mindjujuyou're up late josephscott
06:55.58josephscottwhich means you are too :-)
06:56.13mindjujuyeah, i'm bald now too from pulling out my hair
06:56.42mindjujuwe had a situation where our server just started respoinding to web request, too many connections
06:56.57mindjujuafter a few minutes, realized it was mysql that was saying that
06:57.16mindjujuafter a few more minutes figured out that the / was at 100% usage
06:57.39mindjujuand after a few more minutes found that /var/log/httpd/error_log was at 200GB
06:58.04mindjujuand rm 'd the file as i had to get the server back up
06:58.14mindjujunow i wished i ahd it to see what exactly happened
06:58.46mindjujunow i'm googling how to partition off a drive from a volume group, i remember studying vol groups in class, pretty sure you can make drives easily
06:59.02herlolvcreate
06:59.05herlo:)
06:59.22herloyou might also need vgcreate, vgextend, and lvextend too
06:59.24mindjujuah good, thx
06:59.33herlomindjuju: that's what I do
06:59.58mindjuju@herlo, do you have a separate partition for your logs?
07:00.07mindjujui've never seen a log file at 200GB!  never!
07:00.31mindjujuand it climbed to that size in a matter of days
07:01.16herlomindjuju: yes separate server even for logs
07:01.27herlomindjuju: we had 400G a day at Backcountry.com
07:01.57josephscottit has been disappointing to see many OSes just mount pretty much everything to /
07:02.11herlojosephscott: Fedora doesn't
07:02.26mindjujui have my mysql db files on a seperate partition
07:02.32josephscottyeah, FreeBSD doesn't either
07:02.55herlothe default is /boot and an LVM for everything else, most common mounts are there
07:03.09herlo<PROTECTED>
07:04.03herlojosephscott: what you still doing up at this hour?
07:04.29josephscottwork, isn't that what everyone does at midnight?
07:04.33herlolol, not me
07:18.19josephscottalright, time for sleep
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16:06.42influxMorning, gents.
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16:13.27carmonyMmm... today... is Pat's BBQ for lunch
16:13.54jsmithMmmmmn.... BBQ....
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16:38.16mindjujuhmm, why does this sound like Adobe Flash to me?  http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/hp-planning-to-put-webos-on-every-pc-it-ships-in-2012/
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16:51.10mindjujui'm beating the new york times computer v human paper rocks scissors http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/science/rock-paper-scissors.html
16:51.19beandogmonin
16:51.20mindjujui'm winning 7 to 3 with 10 ties
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16:52.07DexterTheDragonmindjuju: novice or veteran
16:52.14mindjujuveteran
16:53.41influxThis is your Deep Blue, mindjuju.
16:54.03influxKick its butt.
16:54.08beandoglol influx
16:55.07josephscottnow I need flash to play rps?
16:55.07mindjujui slacked off a little, and let the lead slip a little
16:55.14mindjuju10 - 10 - 5
16:55.27mindjuju@josephscott, think of it as Jennings v IBM again
16:55.30mindjujuerr, watson
16:55.34mindjujuexcept now its you!
16:57.27mindjuju@NYT comp - Cant beat me bro!  i'm unbeatable!
16:57.51mindjujui'm feel like the Sicilian from the Princess Bride in computing what he's computing
16:58.26beandogdoes that mean you're going to die any second now?
16:58.50mindjujuno, because I can clearly not trust the wine in front of me
16:59.42Dezertollol
16:59.52josephscottwhat in the world can that be!
17:00.49Dezertolrodents of unsual size... I don't think they really exist
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17:07.56mindjujui really need to start getting some work done, but i just can't help stopping playing this game, i love beating the comp
17:12.31mindjujuk, that's it, 50 rounds, my 20 to his 13 with 17 ties
17:12.42influxWoo!
17:13.01influxIf we ever make contact with an alien race and our survival comes down to RPS, I will put my vote in for you.
17:13.18mindjuju:) too kind
17:13.24pelaofelizI for one welcome our new mindjuju overlord
17:13.25mindjujuhere is the pic http://screencast.com/t/yEss5QJ5YYPL
17:13.29influx^_^
17:13.50beandoglooks photoshopped
17:14.05mindjujutoo mean beandog!
17:14.22beandogoh, man that reminds me
17:14.25beandoganyone remember that OLD game
17:14.27beandoground 52?
17:14.39beandogthat was the hardest game.
17:14.47mindjujui don't remember that game
17:14.59beandogI remember playing it on my 8086
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17:15.14mindjuju@beandog, remember this game?
17:15.15mindjujuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bptwIn-0-4c
17:15.20mindjujui was thinkinga bout it the other day
17:15.30beandogmindjuju, oh man I suck at this game
17:16.10beandogthis guy is good
17:16.28mindjujui've gotten to like the third building on this game
17:17.07beandogand hes getting really lucky
17:17.23mindjujumy fav arcade of all time though was spy hunter
17:17.45beandogI didnt know you could jump on guys to beat them
17:18.03mindjujui didn't either
17:18.33mindjujusecond favorite arcade game of all time, Smash TV
17:18.39mindjujubig $$, big prizes!
17:18.46beandogmindjuju, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7SzOzj4s74
17:18.48beandogever played that game?
17:18.51beandogit is incredibly hard.
17:19.04mindjujuhaven't
17:19.10mindjujumy friend had pitfal
17:19.14mindjujupitfall
17:19.21beandogthis game went something like 50 levels deep
17:19.26beandogabsolutely insane
17:19.31beandogand there were screens where its entirely dark
17:19.34mgearyi loved Montezuma's Revenge. Had it for the Apple ][
17:19.42beandogmgeary, ^5
17:19.47mgearyright on
17:19.50mgeary^5
17:20.04beandogthese kids today have games so easy
17:20.07beandogwith savepoints, too!
17:20.12mgearyaw, man, i'm totally getting flashbacks
17:22.39_psychic_mgeary: was it you who was asking about FB pages yesterday?
17:22.51mgeary_psychic_: yeah. one sec
17:22.53beandogok this guy is totally taking advantage of hacks
17:22.57beandoghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKE06PQCA2A&feature=related
17:23.21beandoghe's like skipping two levels down when he jumps around an elevator
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17:24.11beandogI am absolutely  mesmerized watching this
17:24.19josephscottfungus: I went over that lart list, it is basically identical to the one I imported for raifbot
17:26.33mindjuju@beandog, that's total cheating
17:26.41beandogmindjuju, is it?
17:27.25mindjujuwell, in my book
17:28.41beandogman, craziness.
17:29.01mindjujuthis thrid world, is the one i've never finished
17:29.02beandogthose old games took so much skill
17:31.25mgeary_psychic_: we may have gotten it. We'll polish it up a bit and if we're still seeing a problem, i'll ping you. basically, we're iframing an app into a FB page, and something is generating JS security errors, but it's not currently affecting performance, so we'll see
17:31.48_psychic_Are you using an iFrame or FBML?
17:31.54mgearyiframe
17:32.04mgearyi understand that's the direction they're recommending people move
17:32.09_psychic_yeah
17:32.11_psychic_it's way better
17:32.18mgearyyeah, better for developers esp.
17:32.20_psychic_but it has it's own number of little gotchas :/
17:32.28mgearyyeah
17:38.51beandogmindjuju, http://brandedinthe80s.com/shoot-rambo-smoke-that-sucka-
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17:41.01mindjujuthat's awesome beandog
17:42.56mindjujuso, if you guys had a production server, that had a volume group, would you make partitions in the volume group on that production server?
17:43.05mindjujuor is that rocking the boat, so to speak?
17:46.58fungusmindjuju, are you talking about LVM?
17:48.13mindjuju@fungus, yup
17:48.13fungusGenerally on a production server w/ more than a small root file system, I put all the data disks into an LVM volume group
17:48.42fungusThen allocate logical volumes from that for each mount that I need.
17:48.52funguseg. /var/lib/mysql, /var/www, /var/log, etc
17:49.34mindjujuso what if you have a server already built out, and you want to now create a logical volume for /var/log
17:50.05beandogdo a lot of people use lvm?
17:50.17fungusDo you already have a volume group, does it have enough free space for your LV + a bit extra?
17:50.25fungusIf so, just add an LV, and mount it
17:50.33fungusbeandog, yes. LVM is totally rockin'
17:54.40beandogare there any good docs out there
17:55.22beandoghow the heck am I using 40gb in my home dir at work ...
17:55.48fungushttp://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
17:56.00fungusmight be a bit outdated in some parts, but generally really good
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18:18.25beandoghttp://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Gentoo%2011.0
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18:30.03TuxToaster$rlart
18:30.04raifbothooks into a hydrant and hoses d3c4f down.
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18:38.18mgearyd3c4f...?
18:38.23mgeary~d3c4f
18:39.53mgearymeh
18:42.29TuxToaster~cookie TuxToaster
18:42.38TuxToaster... ?
18:43.01TuxToasteribot, I want a cookie!
18:43.01ibotYou want a cookie!?
18:43.08TuxToasteryes!
18:43.11TuxToasterlol
18:43.28TuxToaster~give TuxToaster a cookie
18:43.28ibotACTION gives TuxToaster a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up.
18:43.38TuxToasterw00t. macadamia even.
18:43.55TuxToasternot sure what ~cookie is supposed to do.
18:45.10fungus~cookie
18:45.49fungus~cookie
18:46.34mgearyibot: literal cookie $1
18:46.40mgearyibot: literal cookie
18:46.40ibot"cookie" is "<action>gives <who> a cookie"
18:46.55mgearywhatever
18:47.25fungus~literal cmd: cookie (.*?)
18:47.36fungus~literal cmd: cookie
18:48.04fungusoh, it's a plugin, not a command
18:48.05d3c4fmgeary, yes?
18:48.16influx$8ball How much?
18:48.17raifbotinflux - It is certain.
18:48.20influxYes!
18:48.51influxDo raifbot or ibot have random number generators?
18:48.58mgearyyes
18:49.00mgeary~random
18:49.07mgeary~randint
18:49.11fungus~rand
18:49.11ibot7
18:49.12mgeary~randnum
18:49.12ibot0.873052893064113
18:49.23mgeary~randint
18:49.24influx~randnum
18:49.25ibot0.0704805448568884
18:49.37influx~randint
18:49.49Dezertol~rand
18:49.49ibot9
18:49.54influxOh, ibot's got flood detection going.
18:49.59mgeary~rand 200
18:49.59ibotACTION randomly picks a nick and that nick just happens to be 200
18:50.05mgearyhahah
18:50.12influx$3and
18:50.14influxwhops
18:50.19Dezertolhehe
18:50.20influxDouble whoops.
18:50.28orsonj$rand
18:50.35influx~rand
18:50.35ibot5
18:50.39mindjujui don't think there is such a thing as random
18:50.52orsonj$8ball is there such thing as random?
18:50.52raifbotorsonj - Outlook not so good.
18:50.57mindjujusee
18:51.07influxrelabels*
18:51.11mindjujushuffles are hardly random
18:51.23mindjujuoh
18:51.30influxThey used to have a "random" button, then later on it was "shuffle"
18:51.48fungus$random-number
18:51.49raifbotfungus your number is : 1,222,848,569
18:51.56fungus$random-number 1 100
18:51.56raifbotfungus your number is : 28
18:52.02influxNice.
18:52.16influxThat's what I'm looking for. Thaaanks. :D
18:52.29influx$random-number 75 150
18:52.29raifbotinflux your number is : 89
18:52.33fungusFYI, http://raifbot.wordpress.com/
18:52.39influx$random-number 100 150
18:52.39raifbotinflux your number is : 139
18:52.51influxIt's settled. I pay $139.
18:54.00fungus$crypt influx
18:54.00raifbotfungus - crypt( 'influx' ) : $1$0/JbqLg3$BY/aW6oOEXk.YGWWRK5B60
18:54.24fungus$crypt $2$influx
18:54.25raifbotfungus - crypt( '$2$influx' ) : $1$b59c9Olu$TpOmOtUxp20ix9sIg1Pyo.
18:54.56fungus$crypt $2$aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa$influx
18:54.57raifbotfungus - crypt( '$2$aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa$influx' ) : $1$82/P5Z0w$z6lUu4vPbu.zdawm7iBBD/
18:55.07fungus$crypt $6$aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa$influx
18:55.07raifbotfungus - crypt( '$6$aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa$influx' ) : $1$zwNG.WCN$LHA74G5ogmlf/xZ6Jd3Cb1
18:55.20fungusnope, doesn't support other hashing.  :(
18:58.19fungus$crypt password $2a$07$usesomesillystringforsalt$
18:58.19raifbotfungus - crypt( 'password $2a$07$usesomesillystringforsalt$' ) : $1$h6J.Y3s2$FJJbDwsiq4gSqINHttcCg/
18:59.10josephscott$sha1 password
18:59.10raifbotjosephscott - sha1( 'password' ) :  5baa61e4c9b93f3f0682250b6cf8331b7ee68fd8
18:59.28beandognow that's helpful
18:59.29josephscott$md5 password
18:59.29raifbotjosephscott - md5( 'password' ) : 5f4dcc3b5aa765d61d8327deb882cf99
19:00.01DexterTheDragon$google 5f4dcc3b5aa765d61d8327deb882cf99
19:00.01raifbotDexterTheDragon searching http://www.google.com/search?q=5f4dcc3b5aa765d61d8327deb882cf99 -- http://penguinpackets.com/ -- http://stackoverflow.com/questions/190198/why-isnt-my-net-calculated-md5-hash-equivalent-to-the-hash-calculated-on-a-web -- http://tlug.dnho.net/node/209
19:00.03josephscott$rot13 password
19:00.03raifbotjosephscott - rot13( 'password' ) : cnffjbeq
19:00.16josephscott$rot13 cnffjbeq
19:00.16raifbotjosephscott - rot13( 'cnffjbeq' ) : password
19:00.42josephscott$google 5baa61e4c9b93f3f0682250b6cf8331b7ee68fd8
19:00.42raifbotjosephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=5baa61e4c9b93f3f0682250b6cf8331b7ee68fd8 -- http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5952.html -- http://svn.skullsecurity.org:81/ron/school/cattlechat/accounts.ini -- http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-98736.html
19:01.03beandoglol
19:01.06beandog$fail
19:02.03fungus$google d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
19:02.04raifbotfungus searching http://www.google.com/search?q=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5 -- http://people.apache.org/~henkp/cgi-bin/md5.cgi%3Fsum%3Dd41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e -- http://d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.haq4u.com/
19:02.31josephscott$md5 12345
19:02.31raifbotjosephscott - md5( '12345' ) : 827ccb0eea8a706c4c34a16891f84e7b
19:02.39josephscott$google 827ccb0eea8a706c4c34a16891f84e7b
19:02.39raifbotjosephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=827ccb0eea8a706c4c34a16891f84e7b -- http://www.inertramblings.com/2005/08/22/so-the-combination-is-827ccb0eea8a706c4c34a16891f84e7b/ -- http://www.nth-dimension.org.uk/utils/ghash.php%3Fwordvalue%3D12345%26startline%3D0%26aboutflag%3D0%26copyrightflag%3D -- http://cs.wellesley.edu/~phpcart/show_all_data.php
19:02.56fungusOh, nice!   http://haq4u.com/
19:02.56TuxToasterwow
19:03.03josephscottlol!!!  check out http://cs.wellesley.edu/~phpcart/show_all_data.php
19:03.05fungusquick and easy hash table
19:03.06TuxToasterchat flood.
19:03.08TuxToasterlol
19:03.27TuxToasterumm
19:03.36josephscott$crc32 password
19:03.36raifbotjosephscott - crc32( 'password' ) : 901924565
19:03.42beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/0YjH9.jpg
19:03.44josephscott$google 901924565
19:03.44raifbotjosephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=901924565 -- http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/09/the_history_of.html
19:03.44TuxToasterjosephscott: that's just sad.
19:04.03beandogcreepy guy on computer in bed is creepy
19:05.05beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/NBfqO.jpg
19:05.07beandogLOL
19:05.08beandogepic fail
19:05.09beandogoh, man
19:05.18mindjuju@beandog, very timely, especially with that GRAMA bill
19:05.41TuxToasterouch
19:07.30beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/0RyuA.png
19:07.34beandogoh man.  reddit is full of win.
19:07.42beandogk, back to work
19:07.52mindjuju@beandog, es lunch time, no?
19:08.08beandogmindjuju, I dont usually go to lunch til 1 or os
19:08.09beandog*so
19:08.27beandogeven then, I just eat at my desk
19:08.35mindjujuyeah, me too
19:08.37beandognormally
19:08.44beandogunless the boss decides to take us out
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19:20.38influxninnypants: Yo.
19:20.44influxHas anyone here worked with Zen Cart?
19:20.54ninnypantshey influx
19:21.06influxI'm trying to figure out where a particular variable is being set a certain way.
19:21.12influxRather, being set to a certain value.
19:34.35influxping
19:34.39influx~ping
19:34.39ibot~pong
19:34.51influx~pong
19:34.51ibot~ping
19:35.17influxlooks like ibot won't fall for an infinite loop trick.
19:36.00josephscottbest electrical job ever! http://www.break.com/cue-the-cuervo/worst-automatic-garage-door-opener-installation-ever-2020629
19:38.55influxShould I trust you or the url?
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19:58.26mindjujuDtD - this looks cool - http://www.gamefront.com/underhell-half-life-2-mod/
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20:02.39mindjujuthe new unreal engine - http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_20114.html
20:02.49mindjujulet's hope they put duke nukem in that
20:08.00carmony\
20:12.12influxLooks rad.
20:13.33mindjuju@influx, which?
20:13.39TuxToaster$rlart
20:13.39raifbotcalls DexterTheDragon on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home.
20:13.46beandogheh
20:13.47beandogclassic
20:13.53DexterTheDragonsounds about right
20:13.53TuxToasterlol
20:15.50TuxToasteryou know, it'd be awesome if you could update stuff on places like LinkedIn without it going out of it's way to let everyone your connected to know that you changed something.
20:16.06mindjujuyup
20:16.18influxmindjuju: The horror movies link.
20:16.24influxI didn't notice the HL2 mod link.
20:16.37mindjujui'm starting to get "notifications" ala facebook from linkedin that so and so got a new job or something
20:16.43mindjujuencouraging me to make more links
20:16.56mindjuju...sigh...
20:17.17mindjuju@influx, yeah that new gaming engine is awesome looking
20:19.27beandoglinked in sends way too many notifications
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20:24.55influxmindjuju: I might like to play the game tied to that video too.
20:27.50mindjuju:)
20:40.55beandogI really suck at CSS
20:40.56beandog-_-
20:46.25influxWhat are you trying to do?
20:47.17beandogmake things not suck
20:47.30beandogbasically I have two tables of column data
20:47.40beandogbut I want the col widths to be the same for both of them
20:48.07influxMay I see what you have so far?
20:49.34beandoguh
20:49.35beandognot really,
20:49.37beandogno
20:49.37beandog:T
20:49.40beandogit's okay
20:49.46beandogits just a crappy report that's gonna be run once a year anyway
20:51.09influxYou've probably already thought of this, but maybe assigning the same class to all of the cells, and specifying the width of the class.
20:51.39influxOr... if it's supported, you can (I think) use the col tag.
20:51.51influxAnd assign the class to the appropriate col tags.
20:52.18influxwidth: [n]px|em|pt; should do it.
20:52.41influxSorry if that doesn't do it.
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21:52.06beandoghttp://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/g1a10/involuntary_collaborations_i_buy_other_peoples/
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22:18.28mgearyanyone here looking for work in SLC?
22:18.47mgearya recruiter just sent me something
22:18.59mgearybut i'm too lazy to post it to the jobs list
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22:19.18mgearyso if you're looking for something in SLC, you can PM me if you want, and i can forward
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22:20.50influx$weather 84062
22:20.50raifbotinflux - current weather for 84062 - Partly Cloudy 61f / 16c Humidity: 32% Wind: SE at 11 mph
22:21.10beandoghey mgeary you're married arent you
22:21.38mgearybeandog: Very happily so. 15 years last November. Did you want to ask me out?
22:21.55beandogmgeary, I need to interview married people for a paper
22:22.09beandogif you wanna help: http://spaceparanoids.org/tmp/research_paper.txt
22:23.52mgearybeandog: i don't mind trying to help, though i can't write huge volumes
22:23.58beandogthat's okay
22:24.06mgearycan't do it today, but could do it tomorrow and/or over the weekend, if that's an option
22:24.08beandogI dont need huge volumes
22:24.12beandogsure
22:24.40mgearyok
22:25.21beandoghttp://memebase.com/2011/03/09/memes-4r7-0f-7r0ll1n9-l34rn-2-r34d/
22:25.22beandogheh
22:26.20mindjujubeandog, that's awesome
22:33.39TuxToasterlol
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22:40.41influxmgeary... noooo
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23:00.24Dezertol$weather 85281
23:00.24raifbotDezertol - current weather for 85281 - Partly Cloudy 87f / 31c Humidity: 6% Wind: S at 6 mph
23:01.20beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/svRtt.jpg
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23:39.21orsonjReading Rambo! Awesome!

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