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00:29.29mgearyi read yesterday that 400 Americans possess half of the wealth of the entire country. That's crazy
00:37.40beandogaye
00:38.08beandogeven considering our middle-class status, we are still the exception, not the rule, compared to the rest of the world population.
00:40.17josephscottcould be worse, 400 people could control 99.9999999% :-)
00:51.20mgearyheh, true
00:51.24mgearybut they're working on it ;)
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02:58.01ninnypants$chuck-fact
02:58.01raifbotChuck Norris CAN believe it's not butter
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04:27.52ninnypants$lart twilio
04:27.52raifbotfollow's twilio with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION.
04:28.13ninnypantsmy goodness
04:28.20ninnypants$chuck-fact
04:28.20raifbotChuck Norris can squeeze orange juice from a banana
04:28.28ninnypants$chuck-fact
04:28.28raifbotChuck Norris owns the greatest poker face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 world series of poker despite him holding just a joker, a 2 of clubs, a 7 of spades, and a green number 4 from Uno and a monopoly ‘get out of jail free’ card.
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05:16.49josephscott$rlart
05:16.49raifbothooks into a hydrant and hoses orsonj down.
05:31.15josephscottwps: looks like there might be hope in getting the bill changed/defeated - http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705368138/Utah-lawmakers-recall-and-amend-controversial-records-bill-for-further-study.html
05:31.35wpsI saw that
05:31.52wpsthat's to the gov
05:31.54wpsoops
05:31.56wpsthanks to the gov
05:32.46josephscottI think thanks to people raising a stink
05:32.56wpsabsolutely
05:33.20josephscotthis threat of veto isn't much a of threat
05:33.36josephscottthe original vote to pass it was easily veto proof by the numbers
05:33.51wpsgood point
05:34.04wpsI think that it's ridiculous that a bill can be introduced and voted on within at least seven days
05:34.43wpshow in the world can a politician even pretend to be doing the will of his constituents if he doesn't even provide them time to respond?
05:35.19josephscottto be fair, the whole will of the constituents thing is rather rough at best
05:35.33wpswhat do you mean?
05:35.38josephscottI mean if that was really how the system worked, we'd just have the whole electorate vote on everything
05:36.42wpsI have wondered thought with today's technology if it wouldn't be possible
05:37.08wpsdo we really need representation now that we have the internet?
05:37.13josephscott"In two committee hearings, public testimony was overwhelmingly against the measure. But it still passed with more than two-thirds of both the House and Senate and was set to take effect upon Herbert's signature."
05:37.32wpsthat infuriates me
05:37.48wpshow in the world can something pass with public testimony overwhelmingly against the measure?
05:37.58wpsI sure hope those people don't get re-elected
05:38.43josephscottfor some things I can understand the "making tough decisions" line, but I don't see how this particular topic would apply to that at all
05:39.15josephscottwe index tons of information, throwing more state govt data on the web would be fine
05:39.50wpssorry to keep beating this horse, but this is also what drives me nuts:
05:39.51wps"Many lawmakers said it was needed to protect private correspondence with their constituents."
05:40.13josephscottwhy should I have to make a "request" for state govt communications data, just put it up on the web and let me search/browse for it
05:40.20wpsamen
05:40.21wpsI don't understand why any private correspondence would be justified
05:40.57wpsif a politician is talking to his doctor or his wife, sure… that's private… but don't do it on your company (government) phone or computer
05:41.15wpsanything work-related should be public
05:42.04wpsPHP question:
05:42.15wpsare different domain sessions separate?
05:42.22wps(on the same server)
05:43.42josephscottseparate in what way?
05:44.03wpsI was thinking that sub1.example.com and sub2.example.com would be in the same session
05:44.30josephscottdepends on how you set the cookie
05:44.39wpsbut I'm not seeing sub1's session vars when I print_r sub2's session
05:45.13josephscottit can be done either way, depends on how the cookie is set.  Isn't related to PHP really, cookies have various scope options
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15:00.14herlospam on uphpu.org.  Would be nice if we could moderate it down as a community
15:03.53romanovicyou're right
15:04.20romanovici just now went on to the new uphpu.org for the first time
15:06.00herloromanovic: :/ I figured wps would have anticipated this
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16:15.08mindjujui'm having trouble finding what us, sy, ni, id, wa, hi, si, st mean on the CPU row in top
16:18.31herlomindjuju: usage, system, nice, idle, wait
16:18.39herlotrying to remember hi, st and st
16:19.26herlomindjuju: it's in the man page, just found it
16:20.33herlohttp://fpaste.org/YOcv/ <-- copied right from top(1) man page
16:21.19mindjujugrrr, i looked in there like 3 times and on several web pages
16:21.43herlomindjuju: hehe, I believe you
16:21.45mindjujuthx
16:21.49mindjuju~herlo++
16:21.53herlo2c. Summary area fields
16:21.57herlothat's where I found it
16:22.01herloif it helps
16:22.30mindjujuyeah, now i need to figure out what 98.1%id means,if that is bad, and how to fix
16:22.45herloit means it's 98% idle
16:22.47herlothat's not bad
16:22.57herloassuming you want no load on the box
16:22.58influx98% chance of imminent destruction
16:23.01herlolol
16:23.23mindjujuwell, nagios keep freaking out blabering about cpu load and total processes
16:23.33mindjujucya herlo, thx agin for the help
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16:25.53mgearymindjuju: where? I was trying to remember myself where i saw it
16:26.04mgearyi wanted to see if i could substantiate it
16:26.19mindjujufor the record, i pulled it yesterday, just hadn't gotten to it.  i do a quick news skim every morning around 9:30a
16:26.21mindjujuhang on, i get you link
16:26.33mindjujuhttp://www.alternet.org/story/150139/michael_moore:_the_smug_wealthy_have_gone_too_far_--_and_we%27re_finally_fighting_back/
16:26.42mindjuju2nd para in
16:28.23mgearyhrm, but there's no citation
16:28.49mindjujuhaven't made it to the bottom yet, maybe he references it later?
16:29.15mindjujumake no mistake, i'm no michael moore fan, but i'm curious to see what he says and why
16:30.51mindjujuwell i'm not sure that it isn't necessarily untrue, but in the stats course i'm taking this semester, i'm seeing how outliers can throw stats off
16:31.08mindjujuso in the case of Gates, and Buffet et al.,
16:31.13mindjujuthat may very well be true
16:31.33mgearyhttp://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/03/07/billionaires-own-as-much-as-the-bottom-half-of-americans/
16:31.45mgearythere's some fact-checking
16:32.36mgeary"Fair enough. And again, his stat is basically correct for 2007."
16:32.42mindjuju:)
16:32.48mgearyarticle also says that hasn't really changed since the late 80s
16:33.02mgearywhich i find hard to believe
16:34.44mindjujuas long as greed is an attribute to human nature, you'll never find an economic system that is fair, socialism, capitalism or otherwise.  makes me laugh when I hear others opine differently
16:35.51mgearywhile that's certainly true, it doesn't mean there's nothing to be gained by trying to make things fair. Where "fair" includes transparency and accountability.
16:36.19mindjujutrue
16:36.39Dezertollol I do think it's funny in that article he goes off aobut having leanred all he needs to know from one semester of highschool economics
16:37.10mindjujuthinking of pharmaceutical companies that pay off FDA to get their bad drugs on the market
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16:37.56mindjujubut big gov has its disadvantages too
16:39.21mindjujuthe thing that really chaps my hide is the extreme political polarization going on, in our country
16:39.23mgearyi don't think big government is necessary a byproduct of fairness, transparency and accountability
16:40.24mindjujui think that people institute further government to try to check fairness
16:40.43mindjujulike just yesterday we were talking about the hassles of sarbox
16:41.02mindjujuif not mistaken sarbox came about as a result of enron
16:41.05Dezertolo.. please.. please don't say that word
16:41.06Dezertollol
16:41.17Dezertolyes it did.. thanks to bush
16:41.21Dezertolhe signed that one
16:41.45mindjujuso big bad business hurts many small people = big bad law that hurts many businesses
16:41.59mindjujui can see why it happened, don't get me wrong
16:42.08mgearysomehow, i think you'd need to remove the ability for people to profit (inordinately) from holding elected office. It seems that it all comes back to that. Politicians get bribed, laws get made/changed, corporations gain special access/funds/whatever, and the cycle starts over
16:43.00mindjujui agree, it's the lobbyists that run DC
16:44.02mgearyi read a quote disparaging true democracy the other day, "democracy is 3 foxes and 2 chickens deciding what's for dinner..." However, a more accurate description, i think, would be, "3 foxes and 30,000 chickens deciding..." And i don't think there'd be much left of the foxes left over
16:45.46mindjujuand this thing with the supreme court and corporations have voices is going to really spin things out of control
16:46.15mgearyi wonder how much the nature of our republic biases the system towards the wealthy. I saw a study recently that tracked issues based on whether they were things the wealthy cared about, or things that lower/middle-class people cared about. The conclusion was basically that the extent to which poor people care about issues has no influence on the issue
16:47.12mindjujui'd like to see the study
16:47.24mgearymight have been in Time
16:49.43mindjujuwell, that's my 15 minutes to scan this morning, /me will have more time at lunch if i get one today :)
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16:51.42mgearyfound it
16:51.43mgearyhttp://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2011/02/political_economy
16:52.13mindjujuawesome!
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16:52.45mgearyas the percentage of wealthy people who favor change on an issue increases, the likelihood that change will occur goes up dramatically
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16:53.52mindjujusure money = louder voice, seems logical
16:53.55influxSolution: Make everyone wealthy.
16:54.12josephscottunbelievable, the end of the world starts on my  birthday this year -http://www.cnn.com/2011/LIVING/03/06/judgment.day.caravan/index.html
16:54.14influxEveryone, you are now billionaires.
16:54.23DexterTheDragon~blame josephscott
16:54.23ibotACTION blames josephscott (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
16:54.57josephscott$lart what ever I am being blamed with
16:54.57raifbothauls what ever I am being blamed with up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles.
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17:14.50mgearyhey fungus, how do you check the defined TTL on a DNS entry? I only know how to get the current countdown time, but i don't know what it's counting down from
17:15.18fungusif you query the authoritative DNS server it will always return a full TTL
17:15.33mgearygot it. thanks
17:16.04josephscottdig ?
17:16.51josephscottsomething like: dig wordpress.com @ns1.wordpress.com
17:18.56Dezertolnslookup then at the > set q=soa hit enter and put int he doman you want
17:19.10mgearyyeah. ^^ "got it. thanks" ;)
17:19.24mgearybut the clarification is good for the record
17:22.55wpsI love receiving recall email emails
17:23.05wpsI immediately delete the first and forget about it
17:23.15Dezertolhehe
17:23.20Dezertoli bet.. you do
17:23.45DezertolI hate when people require a read recipt
17:27.18mindjujui always get scared when deleting a folder in linux
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17:31.46TuxToastermorning :-)
17:32.13mindjujuwhen do you go to belieze?
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17:33.53SunSparc~rlart
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17:34.13TuxToasterlol
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17:34.24TuxToastermindjuju: already here.
17:34.45TuxToasterVPN'ed, if you're wondering why my host is Comcast. :-)
17:41.26mindjuju~fungus++
17:45.19TuxToasterif I didn't know any better, I'd think you were asking for mushrooms. :P
17:45.49TuxToasterbrb
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18:05.57beandogmo'nin
18:10.23mindjujumorning beandog
18:10.32beandogmindjuju, hows it
18:10.59mindjujunot too bad, finishing up some projects, getting ready for the new one
18:11.01mindjujuyou?
18:11.46DexterTheDragon~lart beandog
18:11.46ibotstrangles beandog with a doohicky mouse cord
18:12.11josephscott~say $lart DexterTheDragon
18:12.11ibot$lart DexterTheDragon
18:12.12raifbotcalls DexterTheDragon on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home.
18:12.17beandogwhut
18:15.40josephscotthmmm, something appears to melting my EC2 instance
18:16.36josephscottswell, I've got some moron attacking my server
18:17.38beandoghuh.  this looks interesting: http://www.furquim.org/chironfs/index.en.html
18:17.42beandogfuse replication fs
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18:19.51mindjujufungus, who do y'all use for copier maintenance ?
18:20.12fungusprintelligent
18:20.22mindjujuany complaints ?
18:20.49fungusI don't know.  Our tech support people handle them and all printer crap
18:21.11fungusthank goodness
18:21.24mindjujuceo just swung by and wants me to find somebody new as the current company is really slacking and she's tired of it
18:22.10fungusWe use HP printers throughout the company, and Printelligent has some special HP support options.
18:22.14TuxToaster~give fungus printer
18:22.14ibotACTION gives printer to fungus
18:22.20TuxToasterdoh
18:22.23fungus~lart TuxToaster
18:22.23ibotputs TuxToaster into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of TuxToaster's hair of
18:22.26TuxToaster~give fungus a printer
18:22.26ibotACTION gives a printer to fungus
18:22.29TuxToasterthere we go
18:22.36TuxToasterow
18:22.39TuxToaster$lart ibot
18:22.39raifbotputs ibot into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of ibot's hair off.
18:26.10SunSparc~give TuxToaster his hair back
18:26.10ibotACTION gives his hair back to TuxToaster
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18:31.50TuxToasterthanks SunSparc :P
18:32.09TuxToasterLOL just noticed that raifbot did the exact same lart to ibot.
18:32.11TuxToasterthat's awesome.
18:32.59TuxToasterthere's probably a brain in a jar somewhere that's wired in. :D
18:38.11josephscott$8ball does raifbot have any AI abilities?
18:38.11raifbotjosephscott - Outlook not so good.
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19:03.02mindjujuouch, that's a heartache getting ready to happen - http://www.discountcopiersonline.com/
19:03.40beandogwow
19:04.12beandogthat is awesome
19:04.53mindjujugetty is REALLY good about finding their images online
19:05.02mgearytrue, that
19:05.46mindjujuat my last job, the graphic designer used part of a getty image in a composite, didn't tell anybody, and several years later, I was hired, and several years later after that, they found it and sued
19:05.58beandogsued? srsly?
19:06.08mindjujuyou no pay, you get sued
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19:14.05TuxToaster$8ball were you lying to josephscott about your AI abilities?
19:14.22raifbotTuxToaster - Reply hazy, try again.
19:14.40TuxToaster$8ball were you lying to josephscott about your hidden AI abilities?
19:14.45raifbotTuxToaster - Most likely.
19:14.48TuxToasterlol
19:14.50mindjujuobfuscation, that is the sign of intelligence
19:15.01TuxToasterexactly.
19:15.13TuxToasterhe's very vague about how he answers those questions.
19:15.20TuxToaster$8ball is your e-mail working today?
19:15.20raifbotTuxToaster - Yes - definitely.
19:15.31TuxToastersee? he will answer easy questions directly. :P
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19:24.16mindjujui love it.  if we sign up for copier service contract through this one company that sent me a brochure, we will apparently get sport illustrated models to come out and fix our copiers
19:26.40herlomindjuju: is it worth it?
19:27.29mindjujufor the longevity of my marriage, no
19:28.11beandogkind of redefines the term 'copy girl'
19:29.31herlomindjuju: haha
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19:31.06josephscottoh caching bugs, how I love to hate you
19:32.40beandogdoes anybody else ever feel like skipping work to go do laundry
19:35.16mindjujui can't remember though if it is late 80s or early 90s
19:37.07josephscottI just can that high school :-)
19:38.07josephscotts/can/call/
19:39.25fungusick, uphpu.org got spammed
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19:41.07josephscottwps: ping
19:41.48josephscottanyone besides wps have admin access to uphpu.org?  spam posted to the site and accounts are locked out
19:43.25redroywhoa, when did uphpu.org get a facelift? Looks nice :)
19:45.07mindjujuk, top post spam comment removed
19:45.15mindjujuif y'all see another, let me know
19:46.35herlomindjuju: oh yeah, mentioned that this morning
19:46.46herloapparently, you didn't see it
19:47.22mindjujui agree
19:47.39mindjujuso about this spam poster, lock the account or honest mistake and just email to notify to stop?
19:47.48josephscottbummer, I'm still locked out, says my account won't be usable for another 13 hours
19:47.51herlolock it, wasn't an honest mistake
19:48.11herlojosephscott: what does that mean? on uphpu.org?
19:48.26josephscottyep, when I try to login I get:
19:48.26josephscottERROR: This account has been locked because of too many failed login attempts. You may try again in 13 hours.
19:48.40herloheh
19:48.45mindjujuso josephscott, how do i know you're the really REAL josephscott
19:48.47josephscottdespite the fact that I haven't attempted a login for at least a week
19:48.55herloodd...
19:49.02josephscottthis is why locks on failed attempts are a bad idea
19:49.07josephscotteasy to shut people out
19:49.21herlowell, the timeline should be more like 30-60 minutes
19:49.32herlofor lockouts
19:49.40herlo13 hours is ridiculous
19:50.16mindjujujosephscott, try now
19:50.33josephscottherlo: wouldn't matter, simple bot could continue a lock out indefinitely
19:50.39herlotrue
19:50.50mindjujudid you get in?
19:50.50josephscottmindjuju: woot!  I'm back!
19:51.15mindjujumaybe i should lock out herlo, he's pesky!
19:51.18herlojosephscott: I guess that's why things like captcha are a good idea.  Though I generally hate reading those...
19:51.28herlomindjuju: go ahead, I never use my account anyway
19:51.30herlo:P
19:52.05josephscottcaptcha is horrible
19:52.28josephscottlove having to fill out google captcha forms a dozen times before getting it right
19:52.29herlohorrible, how?
19:52.37herlooh, yeah
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20:39.31DexterTheDragonmindjuju: http://www.tronsoundtrack.com/audio/remix.mp3
20:39.33DexterTheDragonfirst 34 seconds are the glitch mob remix
20:41.00TuxToasterdid we not have akismet on the new uphpu?
20:56.26orsonjis that different than kismet?
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20:56.39carmonyhrm, alright, php-fpm is crashing on my ever few hours
20:56.50carmonyany ideas on to figure out what's causing it?
20:57.10TuxToasterorsonj: http://akismet.com/
20:58.50orsonjok, totally different
20:59.07orsonjone is for keeping stuff from getting in, the other is to get more in.
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21:05.09fungusTuxToaster, IIRC akismet is for comments.  That spam was a post.
21:07.22josephscottakismet does focus on comments, though for a site like uphpu running posts through it might be helpful
21:07.53influxbluh
21:09.48TuxToasterfungus: ah, didnt' actually see the spam, just the discussion
21:10.14TuxToasterthought you had to have an approved account to post
21:10.56josephscottI think you do
21:23.20carmonyr
21:23.20carmonyo
21:23.21carmonyf
21:23.21carmonyl
21:23.45carmonyhttp://screencast.com/t/PHOtAdcu -- there are times when you should not use MySQL. The arrow points to after we switched to InnoDB
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21:25.42josephscottyou mean myisam?
21:25.48carmonyer, yes
21:26.12josephscottbasically, you should always be using innodb unless you have a very specific reason not to
21:26.39carmonyyeah, my buddy had some pretty narly problems with innodb back in 2003
21:26.45carmonyso he has always been leary of using it
21:30.28josephscotttime to catch up to 2011 ;-)
21:31.13beandogcarmony, awesome dude
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21:52.10wTrevynanyone hear about Heritage going under today?
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21:53.09beandogwhats Heritage
21:53.38TuxToastera web design company if it's what I'm thinking of
21:53.47wTrevynhttp://www.heritagewebdesign.com/about_us.html
21:53.51wTrevynyeah one in provo
21:53.58wTrevynpretty big company
21:54.13beandogugh, doesnt render in chrome
21:54.22wpswow… I wouldn't have hired them to build me a website
21:54.50beandogcopyright footer fail
21:55.24wTrevynyeah
21:55.27wTrevynfunny
21:55.28beandoghttp://www.hitwebdesign.com/careers/working_for_hit.html
21:55.30beandogcubicle land?
21:55.38wTrevynthey have a lot of employees looking for work
21:55.48wTrevynand a lot of customers left hanging
21:55.52beandogwork from home?
21:55.54beandogthat's a few red flags.
21:55.56beandogtoo bad.
21:55.57beandog:T
21:56.32wTrevyn"I have done freelance in the past and this is truly the best freelance job I've ever had. I am hoping to stay with the company as long as I can. Thanks!" -Roger, Brandon, FL Graphic Designer (Freelance)
21:58.20beandogworking for a crappy web design firm is a rite of passage for all developers
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22:01.51josephscottworking from home isn't all bad
22:02.08josephscottas long as it is for a good company of course
22:02.19beandogyah
22:02.49mindjujuhow you been wTrevyn?
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22:07.11optikalWhat do you guys use for external web load and performance monitoring? Looking for suggestions, stuff similar to Keynote, Gomez, Alertsite...
22:07.38mindjujujosephscott has one but i don't remember the name of it
22:07.47mindjujuprice was reasonable, if i recall
22:08.16josephscottlots of tools out there for site monitoring, don't have a specific recommendation
22:08.38josephscottwe've used http://www.watchmouse.com/en/ at automattic for http://status.automattic.com/
22:10.52optikaljosephscott: werd, thanks
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22:11.56tierrawish I could remember what the Digitaria guys were recommending at the meeting about 6 months ago... some australian company
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22:12.39tierralooked good from what I saw
22:12.43tierrasaw/remember
22:12.47TuxToasterwTrevyn: sorry my connection died. So they hired freelancers?
22:13.12TuxToasterI thought they had a full time staff, remember seeing a job posting for them at some point, guess it could have been a contract only deal.
22:13.58tierraoh, just found it. It was http://www.wormly.com/
22:14.18optikaltierra: Thanks
22:14.36optikalo hay, they're cheap too
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22:16.25mindjuju@mgeary, hate to do this to ya, but you got to look at this
22:16.26mindjujuhttp://epic.org/privacy/body_scanners/Body_Scan_FOIA_Docs_Feb_2011.pdf
22:16.44optikaltierra: This is looking really good, actually
22:16.49mindjujuhomeland security great idea to expand the locations of body scanners through use of mobile devices
22:16.52mindjujuyippee !
22:16.55tierracool, glad to be of some help
22:18.32mgearymindjuju: you expect me to read this? It's huge
22:18.44mindjujuno :)
22:18.52mindjujui just know it's something else we have in common
22:18.56mindjujuhate security theater
22:19.01beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/egzg6.jpg
22:19.02beandoglol
22:19.18mindjujuthat's funny beandog
22:19.35TuxToasterLOL
22:21.20TuxToasterwow. http://plixi.com/p/55888263
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22:23.43beandogugh
22:26.57DexterTheDragonmgeary: mindjuju: here's the short version http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/71946
22:27.40mindjuju@DtD, i love that picture of the Statue of Liberty
22:27.45mindjujui've seen it elsewhere
22:27.50beandogmindjuju, I was gonna say the same
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22:28.06mindjuju^5
22:28.22beandog^5
22:29.14mindjujusentences like this make me crazy - "DHS S&T expects to receive a prototype DNA analyzer device this  summer to conduct a preliminary evaluation of whether this kind of  technology could be considered for future use.
22:29.30beandogugh.
22:29.41mindjujuit goes on to say that they aren't customers, they are just considering
22:29.44beandogThat's like saying, "It might rain if we look at the weather reports for the upcoming week."
22:29.45mindjujuconsidering is bad enough
22:29.55beandogOh.
22:29.55beandogthat.
22:29.57beandogn/m
22:31.12mindjujua couple of Bills in Texas (God Bless), are going to try to go up against TSA under the 10th amendment, saying the right to regulate is under the State's authority as it isn't specifically given to the federal gov
22:31.26mindjujuit's a fun exercise, but not sure how far it'll go
22:33.33unumthe right to regulate interstate commerce is under the federal governments authority
22:33.48unumso if a plane is flying to a different state.....
22:34.23mindjujume traveling to another state isn't interstate commerce
22:34.40beandogwasnt that one of the big things when setting up the gov't, is deciding between rights of states and federal gov't?
22:34.41mindjujuand if it is, watch out cause Homeland security is condiering putting up those scanners elsewhere
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22:41.49beandogmindjuju, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdSHeKfZG7c
22:41.53beandogthat'll make you feel old
22:42.14mindjujuoh wow
22:43.03mindjujuoh that's funny
22:43.05mindjujusad
22:43.07mindjujusad sad
22:45.20beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/b21lN.png
22:45.48mindjujujumping over a river... that's apostate
22:46.16beandogyah I didnt think of that
22:46.27mindjujujk, i went fishing many a time
22:46.38beandogI went to some waterfalls
22:47.06beandogthat was awesome.
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22:48.39beandoghttp://i.imgur.com/n64Z0.jpg
22:52.07TuxToaster_lol
23:08.44SunSparcI have been enjoying irssi, except that I miss the external notifications of something like Colloquy.
23:10.25DexterTheDragonSunSparc: http://pthree.org/2007/03/21/irssi-gui-notify/
23:12.27Dezertolhttp://blogs.webmd.com/breaking-news/2011/03/fecal-bacteria-on-72-of-shopping-carts.html
23:12.33Dezertolhehe yeiks
23:13.17beandogIm not even going to click that one.
23:13.22mgearypsh. life is dirty
23:13.48beandogthat too
23:14.00mgearyi remember seeing a study once that indicated that the more sanitary your surroundings, the weaker your immune system tends to be
23:14.06DexterTheDragongotta exercise your immune system
23:14.09mgearyyep
23:14.15Dezertollol
23:14.24beandogDexterTheDragon, srsly, man
23:14.27Dezertollickn butt holes isn't how i do it
23:14.29beandogotherwise we'd all die from the common cold
23:14.33TuxToaster_I wouldn't be surprised if their data for that is
23:14.47TuxToaster_"the same bacteria found in waste is found in other places"
23:14.56SunSparclol
23:14.58beandogwow, thats awkward ... I got a birthday email from one of my credit providers.
23:15.19SunSparcHappy Birthday!  Pay up.
23:15.21TuxToaster_happy birthday! buy yourself something you can't afford!
23:15.21beandogplus it's three weeks early.
23:15.25TuxToaster_lol
23:15.36TuxToaster_beandog: when's your birthday?
23:15.40beandogTuxToaster_, the 20th
23:15.55TuxToaster_two weeks :P
23:16.03beandog22 days?
23:16.05beandoger
23:16.06beandogFAIL
23:16.07SunSparcibot, don't forget to get beandog a present for his birthday
23:16.07TuxToaster_still, yeah.
23:16.10TuxToaster_LOL
23:16.25beandogIll take a calculator.
23:16.35TuxToaster_and a calendar.
23:16.38TuxToaster_:D
23:16.50beandogoh man, that's embarassing.
23:17.31TuxToaster_that's okay, I was thinking ~3 weeks is almost my birthday
23:17.43TuxToaster_but that's 5 weeks.
23:22.24SunSparcDexterTheDragon: That was informative, though not a perfect fit, but I just found this: http://matthewhutchinson.net/2010/8/21/irssi-screen-fnotify-and-growl-on-osx
23:23.07DexterTheDragonSunSparc: yeah its the same thing, fnotify and a script
23:23.39mindjujui could sure go for a taco
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23:24.02SunSparc~taco mindjuju
23:24.11mindjujutacos rule
23:24.21mgearyIt's not a Taco Town taco
23:24.26SunSparcmindjuju: soft or crunchy?
23:25.05mindjujuwarm corn tortillas that aren't fried
23:25.20mindjujuand several key limes
23:25.43SunSparcmindjuju: authentic
23:25.48mindjuju:)
23:26.11SunSparcMost Americans that would see those would have no idea what to call them.
23:26.34mindjujuborn in San Antonio, but lived in Mexico a couple years, remember going to the tortilleria with a couple pesos and getting a pound of fresh made corn tortillas
23:26.38mindjujueating them on the way home
23:26.46SunSparc:)
23:27.12mindjujucourse, Monterrey is a different place now
23:27.19mindjujui hear serious drug cartels operating there
23:27.30SunSparcI have recently enjoyed taking a couple of corn tortillas, throwing some beans and other stuff on them, and putting them in the oven for 5-10 minutes.  Mmmm...
23:27.36SunSparcNot the microwave
23:27.47mindjuju:)
23:28.10SunSparcNothing like oven warmed
23:28.17mindjujutrue that
23:29.25macnewbold~rlart
23:29.26ibotwhacks utahcon_ with a giant beaver's tail
23:29.48fungus~upsidedown UPHPU
23:34.29TuxToaster_$chuck-fact
23:34.29raifbotOuter space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Chuck Norris.
23:34.36mindjujuwow, the lead dev just filed request for a new developer to work here.  funny thing is, he's a UPHPU guy, recognized the name
23:34.38mindjuju:)
23:35.05TuxToaster_nice
23:35.08mindjujulast guy they hired who left shortly, was also a uphpu member, new me but didn't know him
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23:38.34TuxToaster_https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IctOTyGxNWI/TXarYIjs7tI/AAAAAAAAABQ/XeQWmV8dqUo/s1600/idesk.jpg
23:38.40TuxToaster_wow. yuck.
23:38.40SunSparcEveryone know mindjuju
23:41.44macnewbold~mindjuju++
23:42.42TuxToaster_$8ball do you know mindjuju?
23:42.42raifbotTuxToaster_ - Ask again later.
23:42.49TuxToaster_err
23:43.04TuxToaster$8ball do you know mindjuju?
23:43.04raifbotTuxToaster - Reply hazy, try again.
23:43.07TuxToasterlol
23:43.14TuxToastersneaky bot
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23:52.40josephscottwow - http://pinboard.in/blog/173/

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