| 00:00.23 | Utah_Dave | wps: that's a sexy looking pastebin |
| 00:00.29 | TuxToaster | wps: so I've got both records in the tables now. |
| 00:01.21 | wps | thanks, Utah_Dave |
| 00:01.23 | TuxToaster | so you want it to pull the revision specified if exec_status = 1, otherwise pull the most recent |
| 00:01.30 | wps | yu |
| 00:01.30 | wps | yup |
| 00:01.34 | TuxToaster | but in either case it should pull all records? |
| 00:01.36 | wps | Utah_Dave: it's Droplr |
| 00:01.48 | TuxToaster | because the WHERE exec_status IN (1, 8) is making it not pull Steve Jobs |
| 00:02.02 | TuxToaster | since the exec_status for him is 0 |
| 00:02.15 | wps | that's correct |
| 00:02.18 | TuxToaster | ok |
| 00:02.41 | TuxToaster | so that's where I'm slightly confused, because then your join condition would never meet else |
| 00:02.54 | TuxToaster | if his exec_Status is not 1, it won't show up at all, so the join doesn't matter |
| 00:03.03 | wps | correct |
| 00:03.06 | wps | in this instance |
| 00:03.12 | wps | â¦with the little bit of dummy data |
| 00:03.13 | wps | sorry |
| 00:03.19 | wps | change jobs's status to 1 for now |
| 00:03.25 | TuxToaster | ok |
| 00:03.31 | TuxToaster | that's better |
| 00:03.32 | TuxToaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.59 | TuxToaster | how big of a data set are you looking at in the grand scheme of things? |
| 00:05.40 | wps | this table combo will only have ~20, but I have another that I'll be using this same pattern on that will have thousands and thousands |
| 00:06.08 | wps | butâ¦Â this is for a back-end CMS, so performance isn't critical |
| 00:06.13 | TuxToaster | I'm thinking a derived table would be the best option after looking at it |
| 00:06.26 | TuxToaster | well, as long as you have your indexes set up it should work |
| 00:07.31 | TuxToaster | trying a couple of things with it |
| 00:07.36 | wps | thanks |
| 00:07.58 | wps | this is for you: http://thumbs.ifood.tv/files/images/food/reeses-peanut-butter-cup-01.jpg |
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| 00:09.08 | TuxToaster | mmm.... reeses |
| 00:09.26 | wps | too bad I can't email physical items |
| 00:09.29 | wps | I have a case of these here |
| 00:09.59 | wps | I'm trying to restrict myself to the gummy bears though, as they are much less bad for me |
| 00:11.16 | wps | mgeary: how do reeses buttercups rank on your candy scale? |
| 00:11.46 | wps | they are probably in my top five for having little willpower against them |
| 00:11.55 | mgeary | wps: the original cups themselves are very decent. I'd say 7 or 8. All the variations (peanut butter eggs, mini cups, etc.) are down around 3-4 |
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| 00:12.33 | wps | my employer is going to make me 300 pounds |
| 00:12.43 | wps | they run to costco and bring back mountains of candy |
| 00:12.56 | wps | it's very bad |
| 00:13.17 | TuxToaster | wps: so what happens if the exec_revision is null? |
| 00:13.29 | TuxToaster | In this case, there is no most recent revision |
| 00:13.42 | TuxToaster | unless you just want the most recent revision of the entire table, regardless of ID |
| 00:14.16 | wps | if exec_status=1 then exec_should always have a value |
| 00:14.20 | wps | oops |
| 00:14.29 | wps | if exec_status=1 then exec_revision should always have a value |
| 00:14.41 | TuxToaster | right, but in the test case Steve doesn't |
| 00:14.47 | TuxToaster | I'll set him up with one for now |
| 00:14.49 | wps | no |
| 00:15.17 | wps | it's okay that steve doesn't have an exec_revision because his status isn't 1 |
| 00:15.30 | TuxToaster | 17:03 wps: change jobs's status to 1 for now |
| 00:15.34 | TuxToaster | :-) |
| 00:15.36 | wps | oh |
| 00:15.38 | wps | :) |
| 00:15.41 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 00:16.10 | wps | change steve's status to 5 |
| 00:16.46 | TuxToaster | so it should return the most recent revision regardless of ID ? |
| 00:17.09 | wps | correct |
| 00:17.23 | wps | well, where exre_exec_id=1 |
| 00:18.35 | wps | or, to not be specific, where exre.exre_exec_id=exec.exec_id |
| 00:24.33 | carmony | SunSparc: you play minecraft much? |
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| 00:27.30 | carmony | lol |
| 00:33.39 | TuxToaster | wps: http://pastie.org/1600337 is one way you could pull it off |
| 00:34.02 | TuxToaster | mind you I ended up setting Jobs to 8 so that exec_status would be not 1 |
| 00:34.39 | TuxToaster | but essentially you'd do a derived table to determine the most recent entry for that exec |
| 00:34.40 | wps | so is the "text." syntax setting up a temporary table? |
| 00:34.51 | TuxToaster | test. is my database |
| 00:35.00 | TuxToaster | in place of your ' . CMS_DB . ' |
| 00:35.06 | wps | oh⦠sorryâ¦Â i have a pounding headache |
| 00:35.08 | wps | not thinking straight |
| 00:35.12 | TuxToaster | no worries |
| 00:35.37 | TuxToaster | the LEFT JOIN ( SELECT ... ) syntax sets up a derived table |
| 00:35.53 | TuxToaster | which is kind of like joining against the results of a subquery, for lack of better explanation |
| 00:36.37 | TuxToaster | more efficient than subqueries in many cases though, and lets you do things like return the most recent recent timestamp for each parent, so that you can join that |
| 00:37.34 | TuxToaster | the problem is it's not easy to return the full row because of how column grouping works, so you can't just say give me the full record with the lowest or highest date, MySQL gives you the max column and whatever you're grouping on |
| 00:37.44 | TuxToaster | it can be really confusing at times. :-) |
| 00:38.10 | wps | yeahâ¦Â I'm still trying to read your query |
| 00:38.41 | wps | that derived table think is completely new to me |
| 00:38.45 | wps | s/think/thing/ |
| 00:39.48 | wps | I think I'm following now |
| 00:39.59 | wps | I'll plug this in and see what I get |
| 00:40.49 | TuxToaster | wps: yeah it was new to me too, I learned it about a year ago and have come up with some really crazy queries since. |
| 00:41.01 | TuxToaster | can be pretty powerful in some cases |
| 00:42.25 | TuxToaster | seems like it wouldn't be that complex for the mysql engine to be able to return a full row where column x is min or max, esp. since it's a very common thing that people want to do, but you know how that goes. |
| 00:43.23 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 00:43.39 | TuxToaster | I never could get into postgres. Had to use it with a billing system |
| 00:43.45 | wps | pity he's not here |
| 00:44.02 | wps | that's about the only time we get to talk anymore |
| 00:44.07 | wps | :) |
| 00:47.45 | wps | wahoo! |
| 00:47.50 | wps | thanks, TuxToaster |
| 00:47.52 | wps | you're awesome |
| 00:51.27 | TuxToaster | you're welcome :-) |
| 00:51.31 | TuxToaster | I take it it worked? |
| 00:52.14 | mindjuju | why do people torment me with phone calls when there is a perfectly good chat client already up and open |
| 00:52.53 | mindjuju | chat clients have their own IRQ, so it goes with the flow, phone calls don't |
| 00:55.45 | wps | yeah⦠worked perfectly |
| 00:55.52 | supernovia | $8ball have my kids ever used an $8ball? |
| 00:55.53 | raifbot | supernovia - You may rely on it. |
| 00:56.24 | supernovia | $8ball time for dinner |
| 00:56.24 | raifbot | supernovia - Ask again later. |
| 00:56.24 | wps | later, ya'll |
| 00:56.25 | supernovia | see ya |
| 00:57.09 | influx | IRQ? |
| 00:57.51 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 00:58.02 | TuxToaster | $8ball is it time for dinner *now*? |
| 00:58.03 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Yes. |
| 00:58.11 | TuxToaster | picky bot. :P |
| 00:58.35 | supernovia | $8ball as soon as we're done watching/dancing to Weapon of Choice, right? |
| 00:58.36 | raifbot | supernovia - Outlook not so good. |
| 01:00.42 | supernovia | $8ball you know me well |
| 01:00.42 | raifbot | supernovia - Most likely. |
| 01:01.00 | supernovia | $8ball okay. I really am off to cook dinner now. |
| 01:01.01 | raifbot | supernovia - My reply is no. |
| 01:01.11 | jsmith | supernovia: See! |
| 01:01.18 | supermakingfood | hehe |
| 01:01.26 | jsmith | raifbot knows you better than that :-) |
| 01:01.38 | jsmith | $make supermakingfood dinner |
| 01:02.18 | supermakingfood | hehe |
| 01:02.34 | supermakingfood | OK, the pan is on the stove at least. And I'm going to make furniture at the same time! |
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| 01:10.41 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 01:11.00 | TuxToaster | supermakingfood: that reminds me, I've got a good recipe your kids might like |
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| 02:19.06 | carmony | hrm, herlo you about? |
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| 03:05.36 | mindjuju | poor carmony |
| 03:05.45 | carmony | hrm? |
| 03:06.15 | mindjuju | oh, herlo not here for you |
| 03:06.36 | mindjuju | we've got to setup a time for last year's crew to get together |
| 03:06.40 | mindjuju | before Mar 19 |
| 03:06.59 | mindjuju | for UTOS ^^ |
| 03:07.02 | carmony | ok |
| 03:07.21 | mindjuju | or i guess we could do it the same day |
| 03:08.44 | herlo | mindjuju: haha, okay |
| 03:08.58 | mindjuju | :) |
| 03:09.00 | herlo | carmony: what's up? |
| 03:09.10 | herlo | why Mar 19? |
| 03:09.27 | herlo | mindjuju: ^^ |
| 03:10.07 | mindjuju | well, mar 19 isn't really any day in particular other than its at the end of the time alloted to meet UTOS BoD and Core Team to discuss UTOS |
| 03:10.22 | mindjuju | i'd rather meet before then, but that's the last day i'd hope to delay |
| 03:10.24 | herlo | there's an allotted time? |
| 03:10.39 | mindjuju | yeah, between now and 19th |
| 03:10.49 | mindjuju | just to start the wheel amovin' |
| 03:10.56 | herlo | is that is some document somewhere? Or just an arbitrary date? |
| 03:10.57 | mindjuju | i actually sent an email on this a little while ago |
| 03:11.05 | herlo | oh, that |
| 03:11.05 | mindjuju | arbitrary date |
| 03:11.09 | herlo | okay... |
| 03:11.25 | mindjuju | jayce likes the 12th |
| 03:11.36 | mindjuju | and i don't have a problem as long as its a friday or saturday |
| 03:11.37 | herlo | worksforme |
| 03:11.40 | herlo | tm |
| 03:12.31 | supermakingfood | hey |
| 03:12.51 | supernovia | as long as you guys are here⦠any ideas for a new utos symbol? I'm trying to brainstorm |
| 03:13.07 | supernovia | i'd like to keep it close to the old concept |
| 03:13.13 | supernovia | so it's still recognizeable |
| 03:13.31 | supernovia | but, on the other hand I don't even know what that shape _means_ so ⦠yeah |
| 03:13.40 | mindjuju | it should prolly have the likeness of Jean Luc Picard |
| 03:13.41 | supernovia | open source. What's a symbol that means open source. |
| 03:13.42 | herlo | supernovia: it's based upon the opensource.org logo |
| 03:13.45 | mindjuju | and maybe Q |
| 03:13.47 | supernovia | That. would be awsesome. |
| 03:13.55 | herlo | heh |
| 03:14.09 | supernovia | Well, |
| 03:14.18 | supernovia | Is the open source logo ⦠open source? |
| 03:14.29 | supernovia | Would there be a problem with just using that as our O? |
| 03:15.23 | supernovia | $8ball can we just use the existing open source symbol as a part of our logo? |
| 03:15.24 | raifbot | supernovia - It is decidedly so. |
| 03:16.13 | herlo | supernovia: usually logos are trademarked. I'm not certain of the licensing on the one at opensource.org |
| 03:16.17 | supernovia | So then if we stuck with the same color scheme we've already established, but just used the REAL open source symbol... |
| 03:16.35 | herlo | the trademark has a lot to do with protection in the US |
| 03:16.47 | supernovia | Hm yeah it does have TM. |
| 03:16.50 | supernovia | Ironic. |
| 03:16.56 | herlo | in fact, most trademarks have to be actively enforced or the owner could lose the TM |
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| 03:17.12 | herlo | supernovia: it's the US law, not a choice by many open source communities |
| 03:17.21 | herlo | Fedora's logos are the same way |
| 03:17.27 | herlo | which is why I know this detail |
| 03:18.09 | supernovia | hmm |
| 03:18.33 | mindjuju | k, i'm back |
| 03:18.59 | mindjuju | let's see how long it takes |
| 03:19.07 | herlo | yeah, but you can definitely license the trademarked logo, so it's possible they could give us a fully unrestricted license |
| 03:19.14 | herlo | mindjuju: 45 minutes |
| 03:19.30 | supernovia | Could you check on that herlo? |
| 03:19.37 | mindjuju | @velda - http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1159&bih=541&q=open+source&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq= |
| 03:19.39 | supernovia | I think that'd be the best way to go. Same shape, our color, in our logo. |
| 03:19.49 | herlo | supernovia: not likely, my time is limited. But I suspect it woudl just take a simple email requesting it |
| 03:20.00 | supernovia | I'm looking at this: http://www.opensource.org/logo-usage-guidelines#The_Symbol |
| 03:20.17 | herlo | supernovia: I could look at it next week maybe |
| 03:20.47 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 03:20.50 | supernovia | OK. well, I'm just brainstorming. I think that'd be a great option if we can take it. |
| 03:21.44 | supernovia | I'm gonna read to my kids / tuck them in / etc. |
| 03:21.47 | herlo | supernovia: send them an email |
| 03:21.48 | herlo | :) |
| 03:21.52 | mindjuju | so herlo, is there a way to restore a db where you tell it to ignore the errors? |
| 03:22.06 | supernovia | well, I wanted to run that past ya'll first. |
| 03:22.19 | supernovia | sleep on it, lmk tomorrow what you think. we'll go from there. |
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| 03:25.20 | herlo | mindjuju: --ignore-errors :) |
| 03:25.34 | mindjuju | your kidding |
| 03:25.35 | mindjuju | oh |
| 03:25.38 | mindjuju | poo |
| 03:25.40 | herlo | lol |
| 03:25.57 | mindjuju | i'm readying people trying to do it inside a mysql session, and I tried that, but i'd want it to dump the results out |
| 03:26.02 | mindjuju | i wonder if i could dom soemthing like |
| 03:26.21 | mindjuju | mysql> source /blah/blah.sql >error.txt |
| 03:26.40 | herlo | mindjuju: you mean |
| 03:26.53 | herlo | mysql < dump.sql > error.txt |
| 03:26.55 | herlo | right? |
| 03:27.05 | mindjuju | no, that's the way i get an error |
| 03:27.11 | mindjuju | mysql < dump.sql |
| 03:27.25 | mindjuju | so i've been reading people say that they can sidestep errors by doing it inside a sql session |
| 03:27.40 | herlo | what errors? |
| 03:28.04 | mindjuju | it just says ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 5676: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '-opt varchar(255) default NULL, |
| 03:29.33 | mindjuju | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:29.51 | mindjuju | Who here doesn't know the 12th Commandment! |
| 03:30.07 | mindjuju | Thou Shalt NEVER use SQL terms as table names, NEVER |
| 03:30.39 | mindjuju | that's why i always use the prefix fld_orders, fld_address |
| 03:30.53 | mindjuju | i know, i know, tierra made fun of me last time i mentioned it, but i never have conflicts |
| 03:31.12 | mindjuju | you get used to writing out SELECT * FROM tbl_orders |
| 03:33.27 | herlo | mindjuju: haha |
| 03:33.46 | herlo | mindjuju: may I suggest killing the dev that did that?? |
| 03:33.55 | mindjuju | well, i wonder if vim can handle opening up a 4G file |
| 03:34.10 | herlo | don't do it |
| 03:34.20 | herlo | it will be a while before you can read it |
| 03:34.20 | mindjuju | lulz |
| 03:34.28 | mindjuju | k, then i'll use nano |
| 03:34.30 | mindjuju | :) |
| 03:34.33 | herlo | mindjuju: vim can load in buffers |
| 03:34.43 | herlo | but I'm not sure I would want to wait... |
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| 04:01.32 | josephscott | mindjuju: that's why you should always properly quote table and column names, uses the ` (tick) |
| 04:03.06 | herlo | I think you can actually do that with mysqldump too |
| 04:03.37 | mindjuju | yup, i've got vim open in one session, the restore part in another and jumping back and forth fixing errors |
| 04:08.04 | herlo | :) |
| 04:13.00 | tierra | mindjuju: I don't recall making fun of you for anything like that... though I guess I could see myself doing that, heh |
| 04:13.34 | tierra | I don't prefix my table or column names (well, columns when it's a foreign key type situation) |
| 04:14.05 | tierra | I do however have the good sense to *always* use backticks when referencing tables or columns |
| 04:14.32 | tierra | which makes it perfectly legal to use whatever name you want even if it is a reserved word |
| 04:15.54 | josephscott | KHAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!! |
| 04:16.14 | josephscott | the DVR stop recording the BYU game tonight with less than 3 minutes left in the game!!!! |
| 04:16.36 | tierra | haha, awesome |
| 04:17.18 | josephscott | 84 - 76, BYU won, but not being able to watch the end of the game stinks |
| 04:17.22 | josephscott | $lart directv |
| 04:17.22 | raifbot | forces directv to use Outlook Express. |
| 04:17.25 | josephscott | lol |
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| 04:43.28 | mindjuju | ~josephscott++ |
| 04:43.36 | josephscott | :-0 |
| 04:43.38 | josephscott | :-) |
| 04:46.45 | mindjuju | i'm so surprised that mysqldump doesn't have an option to enclose all the columns in ` |
| 04:48.15 | herlo | I thought it did |
| 04:48.24 | mindjuju | really? |
| 04:49.19 | mindjuju | oh i learned how to put the backtick mark |
| 04:49.33 | mindjuju | i thought i was going to have to do the ole ALT+2122 or something |
| 04:53.07 | mindjuju | @herlo, oh i forgot to tell you, it's mysql 4, so i'm finding things like --opt no worky |
| 05:06.16 | herlo | oy |
| 05:06.22 | herlo | that's a problem... |
| 05:06.32 | herlo | mysql 4 wow, that's old |
| 05:06.42 | mindjuju | yeah, prolly older than Corban |
| 05:06.44 | mindjuju | :( |
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| 05:13.52 | mindjuju | well, time to go home |
| 05:17.59 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 05:17.59 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can slam a revolving door. |
| 05:18.05 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 05:18.06 | raifbot | Chuck Norris hears sign language |
| 05:18.14 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 05:18.14 | raifbot | When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn't lifting himself up, he's pushing the Earth down. |
| 05:18.28 | ninnypants | all short ones |
| 05:37.28 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 05:37.29 | raifbot | Chuck Norrisâ roundhouse kick is so powerful, it can be seen from outer space by the naked eye. |
| 05:41.13 | josephscott | $weather sandy, ut |
| 05:41.13 | raifbot | josephscott - current weather for sandy, ut - Partly Cloudy 30f / -1c Humidity: 61% Wind: E at 8 mph |
| 05:45.42 | herlo | $weather long beach, ca |
| 05:45.43 | raifbot | herlo - current weather for long beach, ca - Partly Cloudy 54f / 12c Humidity: 66% Wind: W at 6 mph |
| 05:45.56 | herlo | that's where I'll be tomorrow through Sunday :) |
| 05:46.08 | herlo | $weather columbia, MD |
| 05:46.08 | raifbot | herlo - current weather for columbia, MD - Partly Cloudy 29f / -2c Humidity: 53% Wind: N at 0 mph |
| 05:46.24 | herlo | then, I'll be there from Sunday through next Saturday :( |
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| 16:02.09 | stderr | http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtanner/5401188594/lightbox/ |
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| 16:23.16 | thebigdog | i am looking forward to the iditarod this year! |
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| 16:32.01 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 16:32.31 | josephscott | man, raifbot is having problems lately |
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| 16:32.36 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 16:32.36 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can finish Mario Bros without using the jump button |
| 16:34.05 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 16:42.15 | wps | if I had a quarter for all the times I typed: |
| 16:42.23 | wps | if($var = 'this') {} |
| 16:46.48 | TuxToaster | so want an opinion |
| 16:47.20 | TuxToaster | the new MacBook updates replace the NVidia graphics on the 13" with Intel Integrated 3000 HD graphics. |
| 16:47.38 | TuxToaster | should I bother trying to see if I can upgrade, or would that be a downgrade? :-) |
| 16:47.48 | josephscott | wps: I know some folks reverse it just for that reason |
| 16:47.58 | josephscott | so the write: 'this' == $var |
| 16:48.19 | jsmith | That way, if you put = instead of ==, it throws a warning :-) |
| 16:48.20 | josephscott | because: 'this' = $var give you a compile time error |
| 16:49.06 | josephscott | I sympathize with the intent of doing it in reverse, but it always reads funny when I look at it |
| 16:49.53 | josephscott | I think some IDEs will catch $var = 'this' as well |
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| 17:04.26 | fungus | TuxToaster, it's definitely an upgrade. The new sandy bridge architecture that the Intel graphics use puts it up on par with the previous NVidia stuff. But combine that with the new i5 processor makes it a whole lot better. |
| 17:05.26 | fungus | and by "previous Nvidia stuff" I mean the low-end Nvidia chips they put in the 13" MBP's from before. Not the discrete GPUs available in the 15 an 17" |
| 17:06.07 | TuxToaster | fungus: I'm mostly concerned with whether the new 13" would run into any support issues since it's an Intel chipset |
| 17:06.38 | fungus | support issues? |
| 17:06.42 | TuxToaster | since Intel traditionally has bad support in games |
| 17:07.34 | fungus | If you are running Windows on it, then yes, it could be a problem. |
| 17:07.40 | TuxToaster | yeah not doing that |
| 17:07.48 | josephscott | this page is helpful http://www.apple.com/why-mac/compare/notebooks.html |
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| 17:08.12 | fungus | Though Mac games don't usually have any issues w/ specific GPUs. |
| 17:08.28 | fungus | Just speed. |
| 17:08.46 | TuxToaster | fungus: mostly, but like recently Angry Birds wouldn't run on any Intel based graphics |
| 17:08.51 | fungus | Because Mac games are designed quite differently |
| 17:08.59 | TuxToaster | I know WoW has had performance issues on them before |
| 17:09.18 | TuxToaster | so far I've been happy with the Nvidia chipset on my 13", just not sold on the Intel move |
| 17:09.30 | fungus | I played WoW on Intel. It's not as fast, but it works. |
| 17:10.05 | TuxToaster | I'm going to have to see if I can talk them in to upgrading me anyways, I just bought this 3 weeks ago, so hoping they might let me trade up |
| 17:11.58 | fungus | The point is that it's performance based, not chipset based. And the new Intel graphics w/ sandy bridge are up to par with the previous 13"MBPs |
| 17:12.28 | josephscott | man, I'd love to remove the dvd drive and get more battery life instead |
| 17:12.42 | josephscott | external dvd drive would be fine for the few times I need it |
| 17:12.42 | fungus | Now windows games OTOH can specifically not support certain chipsets. That's annoying |
| 17:14.05 | ninnypants | $8ball should I replace my HP with a new MBP? |
| 17:14.05 | raifbot | ninnypants - You may rely on it. |
| 17:15.09 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:15.09 | ninnypants | sweet! |
| 17:15.51 | ninnypants | glad 8ball gave me permission |
| 17:16.06 | TuxToaster | hah |
| 17:16.17 | TuxToaster | $8ball how is your e-mail today? good? |
| 17:16.17 | raifbot | TuxToaster - It is certain. |
| 17:16.30 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 17:16.37 | TuxToaster | $8ball how about Outlook? |
| 17:16.38 | raifbot | TuxToaster - It is decidedly so. |
| 17:16.47 | TuxToaster | meh, don't want to entertain me today. |
| 17:17.10 | TuxToaster | josephscott: sometimes I have to wonder if companies make decisions based on 8ball's responses, so it should be good enough for the wife |
| 17:17.18 | ninnypants | $8ball will my wife accept your decision? |
| 17:17.19 | raifbot | ninnypants - Very doubtful. |
| 17:17.29 | ninnypants | heh |
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| 17:20.11 | fungus | anyone else notice the resolution on the new 13" mbp is less than the 13"mba? |
| 17:20.29 | ninnypants | I'd heard that |
| 17:20.34 | TuxToaster | yeah people were hoping they'd update it but they didn't |
| 17:20.44 | TuxToaster | same as previous 13" |
| 17:21.11 | TuxToaster | I personally prefer 17" laptops, but the 13" is growing on me. All except for the low resolution. |
| 17:21.19 | fungus | now i'm torn. Do I get a cute, tiny 11" mba, or a power haus 13"mbp |
| 17:21.47 | fungus | 17" wow, that's tough. I hate carrying around huge laptops |
| 17:21.57 | TuxToaster | personally I'd go for the 13" either way, I love the styling of the air but the 13 is good |
| 17:22.04 | TuxToaster | especially now with the updates. |
| 17:22.21 | TuxToaster | the 17" MBP is fairly light and thin though, doesn't bother me |
| 17:22.39 | TuxToaster | but I'm starting to lean towards sticking with a 13 or 15 for battery life |
| 17:22.41 | fungus | heh, I complain about my 13" being too heavy |
| 17:22.48 | TuxToaster | this one gets at least 7 hours |
| 17:23.01 | TuxToaster | I noticed they marked it down to 7 hours on the site now instead of 10 |
| 17:23.19 | TuxToaster | but I think they're trying to be more realistic, rather than saying that the new one actually gets 3 hours less |
| 17:23.39 | fungus | I'm pretty sure they marked it down because the CPU eats a ton more power |
| 17:23.57 | fungus | the new i5/i7 are wicked fast, but power hungry |
| 17:24.05 | TuxToaster | well, you'd think they also would have an improved battery to compensate for that a bit |
| 17:24.33 | TuxToaster | I guess the question is, would I be able to expect the same kind of battery life from the new one that I'm getting now |
| 17:24.35 | fungus | heh, you can only cram so much lithium into a 13" laptop. :) |
| 17:27.04 | romanovic | are there any pc laptops in the works with a thunderbolt port? |
| 17:34.29 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 17:34.29 | ibot | stabs stderr |
| 17:34.40 | SunSparc | whoa! ibot, calm down |
| 17:34.47 | SunSparc | ~chill ibot |
| 17:34.47 | ibot | ACTION grabs ibot and rams a chillpill down ibot's throat with a toilet plunger |
| 17:34.58 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:35.03 | SunSparc | ~lolstats |
| 17:35.03 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 2248. Top 3: SunSparc -- 344 (15.3%), carmony -- 290 (12.9%), TuxToaster -- 239 (10.6%) |
| 17:35.11 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:35.28 | romanovic | heh |
| 17:35.33 | TuxToaster | wow, I didn't now we kept track of that |
| 17:35.38 | romanovic | me neither |
| 17:35.39 | TuxToaster | figured I'd be near the top, bad habit. :P |
| 17:36.13 | TuxToaster | now I need to catch up to SunSparc apparently. |
| 17:36.17 | SunSparc | Yep, I did not realize it either until the other day when I just randomly typed that command |
| 17:36.31 | SunSparc | I also had no idea I was so jovial. |
| 17:38.55 | TuxToaster | hehe |
| 17:39.00 | TuxToaster | ~lartstats |
| 17:39.05 | TuxToaster | now that one could be interesting |
| 17:39.09 | TuxToaster | ~lart himself |
| 17:39.09 | ibot | duct-tapes himself to the floor and drools on him |
| 17:39.20 | TuxToaster | ... awkward. |
| 17:40.13 | mgeary | jeeze. three HUNDRED lols, SunSparc ?? |
| 17:40.36 | TuxToaster | mgeary: most likely over time. |
| 17:40.41 | TuxToaster | not all at once :P |
| 17:40.49 | TuxToaster | though I'm curious what the timeframe is |
| 17:40.51 | mgeary | well, yeah, but still |
| 17:41.06 | mgeary | i don't lol, so maybe i just don't get it |
| 17:41.20 | TuxToaster | technically, you just did. |
| 17:41.43 | TuxToaster | unless ibot only counts them when they're on a separate line :-) |
| 17:41.43 | carmony | ooooooooooooh dear |
| 17:41.47 | carmony | new MBPs |
| 17:41.51 | mgeary | ~lolstats SunSparc |
| 17:41.57 | TuxToaster | carmony: yup |
| 17:42.07 | carmony | I must resist |
| 17:42.08 | TuxToaster | debating whether or not I want to try to upgrade |
| 17:42.11 | carmony | since mine is only a year old |
| 17:42.18 | TuxToaster | mine is about 3 weeks. |
| 17:42.28 | carmony | I would try to TuxToaster |
| 17:42.44 | TuxToaster | so I could probably talk them in to updating it, just not sold on the Intel graphics and possibly lower battery life |
| 17:42.56 | mgeary | we should all thank carmony for buying a new MBP and thus enabling the release of a new line |
| 17:43.10 | carmony | olo |
| 17:43.12 | carmony | lol |
| 17:43.18 | TuxToaster | ~lolstats |
| 17:43.18 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 2249. Top 3: SunSparc -- 344 (15.3%), carmony -- 291 (12.9%), TuxToaster -- 239 (10.6%) |
| 17:43.23 | TuxToaster | there's one more for carmony :P |
| 17:58.44 | josephscott | $lart lol |
| 17:58.44 | raifbot | takes out a cattle prod and gives lol a good jolt. |
| 18:01.55 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:02.01 | TuxToaster | $lart josephscott |
| 18:02.02 | raifbot | cats /dev/urandom into josephscott's ear. |
| 18:02.24 | josephscott | I whistle /dev/urandom while walking down the street :-) |
| 18:02.32 | TuxToaster | I believe it |
| 18:02.36 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 18:02.36 | raifbot | hereby declares TuxToaster a troll. |
| 18:02.41 | TuxToaster | doh! |
| 18:02.43 | carmony | hahahaha |
| 18:02.55 | TuxToaster | it's like russian roulette. |
| 18:02.57 | carmony | ~irony++ |
| 18:02.58 | josephscott | raifbot, no respector of persons :-) |
| 18:03.12 | josephscott | well, except for chuck of course |
| 18:03.28 | carmony | I don't think you can call chuck a "person" |
| 18:03.32 | carmony | he is "chuck" |
| 18:03.32 | TuxToaster | woot. http://cl.ly/1p0N391q3r2g430k170j |
| 18:03.46 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 18:03.46 | raifbot | Chuck Norrisâ roundhouse kick is so powerful, it can be seen from outer space by the naked eye. |
| 18:03.49 | carmony | 10.7 came out too? |
| 18:03.59 | TuxToaster | carmony: developer preview. |
| 18:04.03 | carmony | ah |
| 18:04.03 | carmony | ok |
| 18:04.12 | carmony | I wish they would let me virtualize OSX |
| 18:04.13 | TuxToaster | but it's on it's way. and will be distributed through the Mac App Store |
| 18:04.16 | carmony | legally |
| 18:04.24 | josephscott | I think you can |
| 18:04.26 | TuxToaster | no more disc media it seems. |
| 18:04.43 | TuxToaster | and you will be able to legally install it on any machine you use the account on, not just one machine per copy. |
| 18:04.47 | josephscott | trying to remember what the limitations were, it was only under specific circumstances |
| 18:06.02 | TuxToaster | carmony: also, OS X Server will be included |
| 18:06.12 | TuxToaster | no longer a separate product |
| 18:20.20 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Do you buy any Kindle books that cost more than $5? |
| 18:20.40 | _psychic_ | yeah |
| 18:21.40 | SunSparc | I cannot stomach paying that much for a digital file. There was a book I wanted to buy and the Kindle edition was $17. I may as well have the hard copy. Ridiculous. |
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| 19:15.12 | wps | you can't pluck a node out of an array by numeric index if the array has named indicies? |
| 19:15.14 | wps | example: |
| 19:15.21 | wps | array('name' => 'bob'); |
| 19:15.32 | wps | $people = array('name' => 'bob'); |
| 19:15.41 | wps | $people[0]; |
| 19:18.32 | jsmith | wps: Nope... but you can use array_shift() |
| 19:18.40 | wps | that's pretty lame |
| 19:18.50 | wps | is there some technical reason in the PHP engine that that wouldn't be possible? |
| 19:20.06 | wps | my issue is that the named indices are unknown |
| 19:20.18 | wps | I guess I can use array_keys() |
| 19:22.01 | wps | thanks, jsmith |
| 19:22.04 | jsmith | wps: You nailed it. |
| 19:22.44 | josephscott | php basically makes it hash, so it behaves as a hash |
| 19:23.40 | josephscott | you can do mixed though |
| 19:23.53 | josephscott | store both an array index and a hash key to reference the same data |
| 19:24.11 | josephscott | I think PDO will do that by default for returning data sets |
| 19:24.16 | josephscott | just as an example |
| 19:24.56 | wps | PDO? |
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| 19:26.51 | josephscott | $google php pdo |
| 19:26.52 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=php+pdo -- http://php.net/manual/en/book.pdo.php -- http://php.net/manual/en/ref.pdo-mysql.php -- http://www.phpro.org/tutorials/Introduction-to-PHP-PDO.html |
| 19:27.26 | wps | ah |
| 19:32.06 | mindjuju | hey josephscott, wanted to ask you, as the resident advocate of munin, i'm getting ready to launch a server into production and there are a couple apps i was thinking of. i've heard good things about apachetop and was thinking about something similar for mysql, does munin do all of this or do they work together? |
| 19:32.53 | josephscott | they aren't directly related |
| 19:33.01 | josephscott | apachetop is basically top for apache details |
| 19:33.17 | josephscott | mtop is similar, but for mysql - http://mtop.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:33.35 | mindjuju | so i should consider doing all 3? |
| 19:33.38 | josephscott | none of them are replacements for historical data, which is what munin is good for |
| 19:33.47 | mindjuju | ah |
| 19:33.58 | josephscott | munin would be the minimum requirement imho |
| 19:34.09 | josephscott | things like apachetop and mtop are a bonus |
| 19:34.24 | josephscott | and mtop you can run remotely as I recall |
| 19:34.25 | mindjuju | i like bonuses |
| 19:34.44 | josephscott | I don't make too much use of them, but they can be very handy |
| 19:35.04 | mindjuju | seems like i get quite a bit of info from service httpd status |
| 19:35.06 | josephscott | you could probably run apachetop remotely as well |
| 19:35.19 | mindjuju | i wonder if its mucho bettero |
| 19:35.27 | josephscott | via ssh calling tail on the logs on the server |
| 19:35.57 | josephscott | munin also supports aggregating data from multiple servers into one graph, which is very handy |
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| 19:40.02 | mindjuju | wow, 12:30 already |
| 19:40.14 | jsmith | 2:40, as it were :-) |
| 19:40.28 | mindjuju | sup jsmith, how are things in va? |
| 19:40.38 | jsmith | mindjuju: Rockin' |
| 19:40.47 | jsmith | mindjuju: Trying to finish my basement over the next week or so |
| 19:41.25 | mindjuju | do you have a lot to do? |
| 19:42.09 | jsmith | Do I ever! |
| 19:42.16 | jsmith | Finishing up the framing |
| 19:42.20 | jsmith | Finishing up the electrical |
| 19:42.31 | jsmith | Running some more low-voltage wiring (Cat5, cable, etc.) |
| 19:42.40 | jsmith | Shuffling things around |
| 19:42.41 | mindjuju | wow |
| 19:42.46 | josephscott | $8ball will jsmith finish this week? |
| 19:42.46 | raifbot | josephscott - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 19:42.56 | jsmith | Get inspections |
| 19:42.59 | josephscott | $8ball will jsmith finish this week? |
| 19:42.59 | raifbot | josephscott - Without a doubt. |
| 19:43.02 | jsmith | Hire a sheetrock crew |
| 19:43.13 | mindjuju | i hate hanging sheetrock |
| 19:43.21 | jsmith | Move all the junk from the basement to $temp_storage |
| 19:43.29 | jsmith | etc., etc., etc. |
| 19:43.32 | jsmith | It never ends! |
| 19:43.38 | jsmith | But I'm making good progress |
| 19:43.46 | jsmith | Should be ready for inspection tomorrow |
| 19:44.35 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 19:44.52 | mindjuju | DtD, you're going up to seattle this weekend? |
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| 20:03.40 | carmony | hrm, to play Dragon Age 2 or not... |
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| 20:33.14 | mgeary | carmony: i try to avoid doing the math on how much playing games has cost me. I'm not a super big gamer, but i did play Dragon Age. If i'd even spent half of that time doing freelance work, i'd probably have $5k more in my bank account right now :( |
| 20:33.40 | mgeary | of course, it can't be all work all the time |
| 20:33.46 | mgeary | so that's not an entirely realistic approach |
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| 20:39.41 | carmony | mgeary: yeah, I know what you mean |
| 20:53.03 | mgeary | call me a curmudgeon, but i think that subjecting people who call you to some gosh-awful music instead of a normal ringing noise is in the same category as beating the soles of their feet |
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| 21:17.19 | fungus | carmony, mgeary: if DA2 is even close to as good as the original DA, it's a must buy. |
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| 21:29.49 | carmony | So I think I've came up with a good analogy for going from SVN to Git |
| 21:31.01 | wps | I have some javascript that opens a new window with window.open |
| 21:31.11 | wps | when it is triggered with a click it works |
| 21:31.24 | wps | when it is triggered just by code that runs when the page runs, it does not |
| 21:31.52 | carmony | its like SVN is a nice car, but to gain more mobility, you upgrade to a helicopter. You have to learn a new set up and a whole new set of concepts (pitch, yaw). |
| 21:33.04 | wps | hmmâ¦Â reading some and it appears that some browsers disable window.open if it isn't trigger by a click event |
| 21:33.06 | fungus | wps, pop-up blocker |
| 21:33.17 | fungus | Yeah, that's a common function blocked by browsers |
| 21:33.24 | wps | it's not for a pop |
| 21:35.13 | josephscott | $lart me |
| 21:35.14 | raifbot | teaches me the basics, including how to RTM. |
| 21:35.22 | carmony | lol |
| 21:35.59 | fungus | wps, what else does window.open do, other than opening new windows? |
| 21:36.03 | josephscott | If I were out for a walk I'd trip over my own feet, the way this day has gone |
| 21:36.18 | wps | good question, fungus |
| 21:37.23 | wps | I guess any new window would be considered a popup |
| 21:37.34 | wps | I guess the difference is that popups aren't wanted |
| 21:37.40 | fungus | yup, that's what I call it. |
| 21:37.52 | wps | what i was trying to do, the user would now that it was going to happen and want it |
| 21:38.14 | wps | s/now/know/ |
| 21:38.34 | TuxToaster | $lart josephscott |
| 21:38.34 | raifbot | beats josephscott senseless with a 50lb Unix manual. |
| 21:38.35 | fungus | Yeah, probably have to get on the user's exclusion list to accomplish that. |
| 21:38.57 | josephscott | I think I own a couple of 50lb unix manuals actually |
| 21:40.23 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:44.09 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:44.09 | raifbot | raises middle finger to wps. |
| 21:44.14 | TuxToaster | ouch. |
| 21:44.30 | josephscott | must have heard him talking about popup windows :-) |
| 21:46.05 | wps | hey, now, I'm the last to use oneâ¦Â interaction design is my focus |
| 21:46.18 | wps | I think this is a valid use case though for a second window |
| 21:46.23 | wps | it's a CMS with a preview button |
| 21:46.41 | wps | I need to have a second window that displays a rendered preview of what the user is working on |
| 21:46.55 | wps | they need to be able to look at both side-by-side |
| 21:47.14 | josephscott | I thought you said it worked when they clicked on it? |
| 21:47.40 | wps | it doesâ¦Â but I was doing it this way⦠|
| 21:47.48 | TuxToaster | I don't mind popup windows for some things |
| 21:48.05 | wps | submit the formâ¦Â save the dataâ¦Â spawn window on load (users doens't realized the primary page refreshed) |
| 21:48.10 | wps | I'm just reversing the order to make it work |
| 21:48.19 | wps | clickâ¦Â spawn windowâ¦Â then submit the form |
| 21:48.20 | fungus | most browsers allow popups when spawned via a user-generated event, like clicks |
| 21:49.02 | josephscott | yeah, clicking to specifically make it happen is different then automatically doing in |
| 21:49.06 | josephscott | s/in/it/ |
| 21:49.11 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
| 21:50.35 | wps | excellent |
| 21:50.36 | wps | that works |
| 21:54.21 | mgeary | whoosh |
| 21:54.24 | mgeary | ~Discovery++ |
| 21:54.31 | mgeary | "the shuttle has cleared the tower" |
| 21:54.58 | TuxToaster | thought the launch was this morning |
| 21:55.06 | TuxToaster | ~karma Discovery |
| 21:55.06 | ibot | discovery has karma of 1 |
| 21:55.10 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:55.22 | TuxToaster | ibot has only seen one launch :-) |
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| 22:08.18 | influx | oi |
| 22:08.41 | influx | Going to production with CakePHP doesn't require setting up Cake on the production server, does it? |
| 22:10.06 | influx | *reads teh site* |
| 22:10.56 | influx | Looks like it does. :} |
| 22:18.11 | _psychic_ | "going to production" ? |
| 22:18.18 | _psychic_ | You just change the value of a config var, right? |
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| 22:39.37 | influx | I mean going live. |
| 22:47.46 | TuxToaster | $lart annoying customers |
| 22:47.46 | raifbot | burns annoying customers to a crisp with a laser. |
| 22:47.52 | TuxToaster | LOL |
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| 23:06.14 | TuxToaster | josephscott - as a further proof to what I was saying yesterday about my boss having an obsession with wanting to do things in memory... we were having a discussion earlier about a project that would have to pull data from different customer's databases and display it all together. |
| 23:06.31 | TuxToaster | (right now quite a few internal reports we have literally loop through 30 databases to compile stats, etc.) |
| 23:06.46 | josephscott | ok |
| 23:07.25 | TuxToaster | so I was suggesting that we should have a centralized database that the apps drop records into to simplify things for that project as well as our own reporting. His answer: "nah, we could just put it all in memcached." |
| 23:07.41 | josephscott | LOL |
| 23:07.57 | josephscott | who told this guy about memcached? did he read about in a trade magazine? |
| 23:08.19 | TuxToaster | it's maddening... he's actually never even worked with memcached, he's just heard that it's used by Facebook or some big site and so he's behind the idea. |
| 23:09.18 | josephscott | tell him facebook uses mysql by the ton (which they do) |
| 23:09.31 | TuxToaster | yeah, we go up and down all the time with different things that he hears about. We've tested out quite a few different database ideas because they were supposed to be better than MySQL, in all cases their performance was worse |
| 23:10.12 | TuxToaster | and one of them caused a complete system crash because he was testing it with part of production and our app server freaks out if it can't connect to a DB |
| 23:10.14 | josephscott | ah yes, I've had folks who make decisions based on what ever the trade mag told them to do |
| 23:10.26 | TuxToaster | yup yup. |
| 23:11.17 | josephscott | generally, they should only make high level decisions and leave all (ALL) implementation details to someone who actually knows what they are doing and is willing to put in the effort to do a really analysis of the situation |
| 23:11.19 | TuxToaster | the frustrating part is he's a programmer too, and he actually understands the technical side a lot more than many of them do when they read about some new tech, but he still buys into it way too easily. :-) |
| 23:11.50 | josephscott | scary |
| 23:16.00 | josephscott | $lart scary boss |
| 23:16.00 | raifbot | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to scary boss, and goes postal. |
| 23:16.06 | josephscott | eeek! |
| 23:16.54 | romanovic | mgeary: ping |
| 23:19.17 | mgeary | romanovic: pong |
| 23:20.51 | carmony | TuxToaster, josephscott, I think I stopped getting "silver bullet" vision when I adopted some "cloudish" VM tech, and it was a nightmare. |
| 23:21.02 | carmony | got my hands burnt pretty well :P |
| 23:21.13 | josephscott | those bullets are hot |
| 23:21.20 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 23:21.22 | josephscott | handle with care :-) |
| 23:21.36 | TuxToaster | lol @ the lart |
| 23:21.59 | josephscott | long, long time ago I worked at a place with a CTO that literally went with which ever way the wind was going |
| 23:22.16 | carmony | yeah, I work somewhere now with a CTO that way, its a total nightmare |
| 23:22.17 | carmony | ;) |
| 23:22.30 | josephscott | I remember the day (this was in the mid-90s) where he walked into the IT offices and told everyone we were going to move to Lotus Notes |
| 23:22.37 | TuxToaster | josephscott: that's about what I'm dealing with now, except it's not the CTO.. :-) |
| 23:22.46 | fungus | Notes? lol |
| 23:22.52 | TuxToaster | it's the CEO, and the entire company direction shifts with him. |
| 23:22.58 | josephscott | no discussion, no reason why, just that this was what we were going to do |
| 23:23.11 | TuxToaster | eww |
| 23:23.15 | TuxToaster | $lart Lotus Notes |
| 23:23.15 | raifbot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Lotus Notes's direction, hitting Lotus Notes and sending Lotus Notes flying into the closet. |
| 23:23.31 | josephscott | lets just say that resulted in many interesting stories during testing, implementation, deployment, etc. |
| 23:24.23 | josephscott | he literally had read about it in a trade mag earlier that week, then made the decision then came and told all of IT that they were going to do ti |
| 23:24.24 | josephscott | it |
| 23:24.35 | carmony | lol |
| 23:24.35 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
| 23:24.59 | TuxToaster | we all watched a presentation today on a new vision for the industry |
| 23:25.02 | carmony | I know that at ARUP, the same thing was happening, but with SharePoint to run -all- of their internal and partner websites |
| 23:25.11 | TuxToaster | very poor quality but he was totally sold on it |
| 23:25.12 | josephscott | we tried canceling his subscription to informationweek, but that didn't stop him |
| 23:25.27 | TuxToaster | even though it was more concept and no proof that any of their ideas have been implimented |
| 23:25.38 | TuxToaster | LOL that would make for some good comics |
| 23:26.04 | josephscott | carmony: I've never heard anyone, anyone, say anything good about sharepoint. perhaps my sample size is too small |
| 23:26.18 | carmony | lol, me either |
| 23:26.50 | TuxToaster | I've seen job postings for places that use it and want someone who knows it, but that's about it. |
| 23:28.21 | josephscott | that reminds me, I haven't looked through the uphpu jobs list recently, often entertaining tidbits in there |
| 23:29.00 | TuxToaster | hasn't been hugely active recently, but a few things at least |
| 23:29.54 | josephscott | I always liked the ones looking for rock start PHP devs, with a staring pay of $30k :-) |
| 23:30.09 | TuxToaster | yup |
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| 23:32.58 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:32.59 | raifbot | gives jsmith` an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending jsmith` to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple. |
| 23:33.13 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:33.18 | TuxToaster | that one never gets old |
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| 23:39.36 | TuxToaster | woo yay, now he's debating whether to go over to the datacenter to rearrange power cords now instead of waiting for a maintenance window tonight. |
| 23:39.43 | TuxToaster | "Shouldn't cause any downtime..." |
| 23:39.56 | TuxToaster | think I should head home before he sets on it. lol |
| 23:41.32 | josephscott | send all calls to voicemail |
| 23:42.02 | TuxToaster | I tried that one night. They just hopped in their cars and headed to my house. :S |
| 23:44.02 | josephscott | lol |
| 23:49.41 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 23:49.41 | raifbot | installs a bad bootloader on beandog and turns beandog into a brick. |
| 23:50.15 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:50.33 | TuxToaster | poor beandog |
| 23:50.37 | TuxToaster | ~beandog++ |
