IRC log for #uphpu on 20110216

00:16.04ninnypantsSunSparc: is it free for a limited time or until you use a certain amount of resources?
00:16.44SunSparcninnypants: From what I understand, it is a certain amount of resources.  I am still reading on it though.
00:17.01SunSparcLike I said, it is far from intuitive.
00:19.08ninnypantsok that's what I was thinking but wasn't sure if maybe you'd made it further in than I did. :)
00:19.28SunSparc:)
00:20.43beandogSunSparc, you can do a presentation on it
00:21.03SunSparc:)
00:21.04SunSparcHmmm
00:21.13beandogthat would be awesome.  and helpful.
00:21.47SunSparcIt could be possible, if I can figure it out.  :)
00:31.55beandogjosephscott, meh, all my stuff in wp-content/uploads got dissed in my migration
00:31.56beandog:C
00:54.11SunSparcninnypants: Here is some good information  http://aws.amazon.com/free/faqs/
00:56.02SunSparcLaterz all!
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03:25.12josephscott$chuck-fact
03:25.12raifbotIn "ring around the rosie", Chuck Norris does not fall down.
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04:31.01josephscott$chuck-fact
04:31.01raifbotChuck Norris counted to infinity - twice.
04:33.06influx$8ball Do we need to add Chuck Norris facts?
04:33.06raifbotinflux - Better not tell you now.
04:33.17influxWhaaaa. Pizza at meting?
04:39.54josephscott$8ball is there anything better than a good chuck fact?
04:39.55raifbotjosephscott - Concentrate and ask again.
04:40.03josephscott$8ball is there anything better than a good chuck fact?
04:40.03raifbotjosephscott - You may rely on it.
04:40.10josephscottlame
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04:51.32ninnypantswow I hope the NSA wasn't actually taking security advice from HBGary http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/anonymous-speaks-the-inside-story-of-the-hbgary-hack.ars/
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05:23.40ninnypants$chuck-fact
05:23.41raifbotChuck Norris doesn't have to do anything for a Klondike bar
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06:42.34ninnypants$chuck-fact
06:42.34raifbotChuck Norris was supposed to star in the tv show 'Man vs Wild', but the network did not want kids thinking 'lava is safe to eat'.
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07:52.06influxWee.
08:06.38ninnypantsmorning influx
08:12.18influxmornin' Tyrel. :D
08:12.52influxWhat are you up to this fine dusk?
08:17.14ninnypantsoh you know working, finding out  hours of work has been over written, the usual-
08:17.35ninnypants$8ball will I have to rewrite that code?
08:17.36raifbotninnypants - It is certain.
08:17.55influx:<
08:17.55ninnypantsthanks $8ball you're very re-assuring
08:18.12influx$8ball are you just having some fun with ninnypants?
08:18.12raifbotinflux - It is decidedly so.
08:18.21ninnypantsoh good
08:18.46ninnypantsthough I guess writing it twice means I get paid twice...
08:19.04ninnypantsluckly it wasn't me who lost it
08:19.05influxIs that part of the agreement?
08:19.07influx*nod*
08:19.22influxWell, that's good for you then, in a way.
08:19.25influx:D
08:19.29ninnypantsI do a lot of my work for this person hourly
08:20.17ninnypantsI guess it is in a way, but I think we were supposed to demo tomorrow...
08:23.59influxBummer.
08:27.21ninnypantsyeah luckly it doesn't really affect what I'm doing tonight so hopefully it wont go too badly for them
08:28.12influx:|
08:29.54ninnypantsso what are you up to?
08:33.35influxWell, I was up to updating from a fresh install of Ubuntu on a used PC I purchased through Craigslist.
08:33.56influxNow I'm going to install nmap and do some poking around on the network.
08:34.05ninnypantsnice
08:34.12ninnypantsI'm liking the new unbuntu
08:34.14ninnypantsbrb
08:34.38influxK.
08:43.43influxI didn't really play around with any previous releases of Ubuntu, so I can't say how I like it in comparison. I do like it though.
08:43.50influx10.10 that is.
08:51.35ninnypantsI played with 8.4 it was good but I like the general look and feel of 10.10
08:55.42influx*nod*
08:55.59influxThat was Gutsy?
09:00.12ninnypantsno it was Hardy
09:02.46influxHardy, then, had a pretty color default theme, didn't it?
09:03.26ninnypantsyeah I liked it
09:03.41ninnypantsthe heron background was awesome
09:06.26influx:D
09:14.57influxAlright. I should get to bed.
09:15.02influxLater duder.
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15:38.02orsonj$weather logan, ut
15:38.02raifbotorsonj - current weather for logan, ut - Sunny 41f / 5c Humidity: 44% Wind: E at 2 mph
15:39.15orsonjcurrent weather for my office 59f Humidity: 38% Wind S a 1 mph
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16:04.06orsonjWoohoo! it's gone up to 62
16:05.25josephscott$weather sandy, ut
16:05.25raifbotjosephscott - current weather for sandy, ut - Partly Cloudy 43f / 6c Humidity: 39% Wind: SE at 19 mph
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16:20.53mgearysupposed to have snow the next ~4 days
16:21.05mgearyi hate that they never seem to tell you anticipated accumulations
16:21.15mgearymight be one inch, might be four feet
16:22.52mindjujuhope not 4 feet
16:23.02mindjujui'd prefer a sprinkling of snow if it has to
16:23.39mindjujuok jsmith, you can have 4ft in VA
16:23.50jsmithmindjuju: Thanks :-)
16:25.03mgearyon the one hand, winter should be wintery
16:25.30mgearyand i do enjoy plowing snow with my atv
16:25.43mgearybut my car is awful in the snow
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16:27.01Devicehello
16:27.18Deviceis this Komodo Edit/IDE channel?
16:28.27mindjujuDevice, nope, this is #uphpu -- the PREMIERE php chan
16:28.38mindjujupeople are here but sleeping as its before 10a
16:28.47mindjujuand actually, i've got to bolt for a 9:30a meet
16:28.57mindjujubut, if you ask your question, somebody will answer
16:29.22beandogDexterTheDragon, north salt lake does stink
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16:31.09josephscottbeandog: so what happened with wp-content during your move?  have you contacted support already?
16:31.20beandognah Im too lazy.
16:31.35beandogand I dont really care that much.
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16:34.35beandogMy firebug is acting flaky ... bleh
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16:38.05josephscottbeandog: ok, well, if anything else comes up, let me know.  sheri can also help out.  and, of course, we have an entire support team that can help
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16:38.24mindjujunothing like a meet that gets canceled
16:38.38mindjuju~lart morning meets
16:38.38ibottakes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in morning meets's direction, hitting morning meets and sending morning meets flying into the closet
16:39.15josephscott$lart morning meetings
16:39.15raifbotsends a legion of lawyers after morning meetings's head.
16:41.05mindjujui know i don't know everything about the interwebs, but what is the point of using a hellishly complex password for FTP?
16:41.18mindjujunot sFTP or any other variant, just straight up FTP
16:41.46beandogmindjuju, beats a weak password.
16:41.58mindjujuyeah, but both are sent in the clear, no?
16:42.07beandogyah
16:42.29mindjujuis it to make the people sniffing traffic remark amongst themselves, "My, that is one complex password!"
16:42.34beandogthe answer is simple .... do you want to explain and support why they shouldn't use sftp?
16:42.43beandogor just work on other stuff and not be bothered by them? :)
16:44.40josephscottmindjuju: because sniffing a password and brute forcing a password are two different attack vectors
16:45.01josephscottand ignoring one because the other is more likely just trades one issue for two :-)
16:45.06beandog~sniff mindjuju
16:45.06ibotACTION sniffs mindjuju, then walks away with his nose plugged.
16:47.08beandogIs it just me, or is it a little awkward when your boss asks you why you're going to the doctor
16:47.38beandogoh well
16:47.52beandogI'll just ask him why he was gone so long for lunch
16:48.17mindjujuyou know, thats a good question, i'm not sure what they are entitled to know
16:48.57mindjujui'd call the department of labor (get the phone num from the poster thats hanging in your break room {the most common place for it}) and ask
16:49.00beandogOr I should tell him I'm going to get my 'roids treated.
16:49.04mindjujui might just do the same, i'm curious
16:49.29mindjujuthough i'd hunch and say he's not intitled to much more than that you're going for general medical reasons
16:49.42mindjujubut that's strictly a hunch
16:49.51josephscott$8ball should beandog tell his boss why he is going to the doctor?
16:49.51raifbotjosephscott - Better not tell you now.
16:50.01beandogman
16:50.05beandog8ball is remarkably accurate.
16:50.21jsmithbeandog: Just say "it's a personal medical issue"
16:50.35jsmithbeandog: Most bosses don't really want to know -- they're just making polite conversation
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16:50.59beandogjsmith, yah that makes sense ... now that I think about it, I think he just wanted to know if I was coming back.
16:51.21DexterTheDragonbeandog: don't go towards the light!
16:51.22beandogmaybe I should just surprise them all and make today my last day.
16:51.25beandogDexterTheDragon, lol
16:51.33beandog~DexterTheDragon++
16:51.48beandoganyone ever seen The Frighteners?
16:52.04mindjujuas scary as that movie was DtD, no movie scared me more as a kid, than Gremlins
16:52.36beandogmindjuju, man, same here.
16:52.56mindjujuand as a kid, i saw some pretty messed up things, saw amityville horror, scarface, etc in the theater
16:52.58mindjujuthx dad!
16:53.17beandogmy dad took me to see indy 3
16:53.21beandogand some james bond movies
16:53.23beandogand star trek 4!
16:53.29mindjujuloved all those movies
16:53.30beandogand star trek 5 and 6.
16:53.40beandogand my mom took me to the black cauldron
16:53.52beandogand one of the star wars movies
16:53.55mindjuju"i'm looking for nuKLEAR wessels, in Alemida"
16:53.56beandogI dont remember which one.
16:54.27beandoggood times.
16:54.42beandogYou know whats great ... my little brother loves every movie I would never dare set foot into.
16:54.53beandogBut I take him to the movies anyway
16:54.54mindjujuyeah?
16:55.08beandogI've seen Alvin and the Chipmunks, Marmaduke, and Furry Vengeance lately.
16:55.10carmonylol, they need to make a grunt-to-text app
16:55.27beandogAnd A-Team.  Which wasn't THAT bad.
16:55.36beandogGood times.
16:55.36carmonyA-Team was entertaining
16:55.41beandogI'm sure I'll take him to go see Yogi Bear, too.
16:55.55beandogMy lil bro is awesome though, so its worth it.
16:59.42josephscottI've seen a-team 3 times, delta wouldn't stop showing the thing
17:01.07herlojosephscott: haha, you must have been going west three times in the same month :)
17:01.33josephscottI think it was east actually, I think that was the florida trip last year
17:02.02herloahh
17:02.19josephscottthe trip back home had a different route, they ended up showing it on each of the two hops
17:02.24herlousually, they have better movies going east
17:02.33herlowow, really.
17:03.40josephscottyeah, for some reason on the way back from florida to slc, it was via minneapolis
17:10.24herlohaha, not a bad airport though
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17:11.56josephscottnot bad at all
17:17.08mindjujucurious
17:18.29mindjujuksl appears to be offering a season pass to seven peaks, utah blaze, utah grizzlies, rocky mountain raceways and real sl
17:18.32josephscott$8ball is it really curious?
17:18.32raifbotjosephscott - Ask again later.
17:18.51mindjujusays $40 but i think that's a mistake
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17:20.53SeKtAhi guys :)
17:21.21mgearySeKtA: we're actually all women here, but hello
17:21.26mgearywell, except josephscott
17:21.48SeKtAlol my bad
17:22.09SeKtArealy never seen woman programmer
17:22.19SeKtAsry
17:22.21mindjujuSeKtA: go to #phpwomen
17:22.28SeKtAim male
17:22.39mindjujuwe were going to hold a raiding party and all go in there, but then we didn't
17:22.51SeKtAname sekta is name from one game that i played female char
17:23.57josephscotthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORKyyHBy6JQ
17:26.03mindjuju@josephscott - how quaint, back from when TV was actually funny
17:26.23mgearyah, the 70s
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17:53.01oo_ooHELLO
17:53.06oo_ooI NEED SOME HELP
17:53.14josephscottalright, time to squash some software bugs.  that means cranking up the old school information society
17:53.45oo_ooIM RUNNIG THE FIND AND REPLACE PROCESS OF DREAMWEAVER AND I GOT ERROR " OUT OF MEMORY " , ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO SOLVE IT ? PLEASE ITS URGENTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
17:55.08oo_oo????????????????????????????
17:55.48mindjujuwhat version of dreamweaver are you running, and what operating system?
17:55.57oo_oowindows 7
17:56.08oo_ooCS5 DREAM
17:56.17mgearyoh no, another one
17:56.56mgearyoo_oo: where is it that they teach you to use all caps?
17:57.00DexterTheDragonwhat did we do to angry the irc karma gods
17:57.08mindjujuk, i'm guessing there is still some window up on your screen
17:57.08mgeary~karma uphpu
17:57.08ibotuphpu has karma of 9
17:57.16oo_ooOKAY WHAT CAN I DO GARY ?
17:57.26mgearyoo_oo: you can take off your caps lock
17:57.50oo_ooI NEED TO FINISH THE WEB .. SHOULD I UNINSTALL AND REINSTALL AGAIN ?
17:58.02oo_ooOR CAN U SEND ME A LINK TO DOWNLOAD FULL CS WITH "SERIALS"
17:58.26mgearyoo_oo: Por favor, apague el bloqueo de mayúsculas, se está volviendo a todos locos
17:58.32mindjujuto get CS5 with serials, you have to go to www.adobe.com
17:58.32oo_oooooooooook
17:58.42oo_ooi have to paaaaaaaaaay , no credit card
17:58.52mindjujui think they take check by mail
17:58.58mgearydoubt it
17:59.11mindjujuOR, and better yet, can i point you to some free alternatives to dreamweaver
17:59.33oo_oowich one ?
17:59.54mindjujui hear great things about komodo - http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide
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18:00.03mindjujui think they still have a community version
18:00.30DexterTheDragonhttp://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit
18:00.37jsmithmindjuju: I've heard good things about http://bluegriffon.org/
18:00.38oo_ooits better than dweaver ?
18:00.49DexterTheDragonyes
18:00.54mindjujuit's FREE-er than dreamweaver
18:01.20mgearyyou know, old U2 is awesome stuff, but this new stuff... I mean, i'm *trying* to like No Line on the Horizon, and it's just not working
18:01.25mgearywhole dang album
18:01.47mindjujuso, anywho, about your quandary with the out of memory
18:02.02mindjujuis the window that says out of memory still up?
18:02.21mindjujuoh, and btw, for a list of PHP IDEs, go here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PHP_editors
18:03.29mindjuju~whois DexterTheDragon
18:03.39mindjujugrr, i meant the slash
18:03.51DexterTheDragonitsa mea!
18:04.01mindjujuyeah, i was just thinking surely this must be a prank
18:06.22mindjujuhey DtD, look what i found in that list
18:06.23mindjujuhttp://www.online-php.com/
18:06.50mindjujutold ya we should have invented PHPmyPHP
18:07.45DexterTheDragonmindjuju: after your password rant you now want to edit files through ftp
18:08.04mindjuju:)
18:08.06mindjujutouche
18:09.22DexterTheDragon~mgeary++
18:09.27mgeary?
18:09.37DexterTheDragonfor being able to speak spanish
18:09.41mgearyhahaha
18:09.48mgearythat was pure google translate
18:09.50mindjuju~DexterTheDragon++
18:09.57mindjuju~mgeary++
18:09.58SeKtA:Д
18:10.01SeKtA:D
18:10.12mgearyi couldn't believe that worked
18:10.13mindjujui still suspect that we've been punked, but i'm not sure by who
18:10.26mgearythe IP was coming from Argentina
18:10.30mgearyhence the spanish
18:10.34mindjujuah
18:10.41mgearyso i think it was legit, as it were
18:10.55mgearyunless DexterTheDragon was tunneling through a relay in the Andes
18:11.00mindjujunah, jsmith could easily bounce his IP from Mars if he wanted to
18:11.05mgearywhich is entirely possible
18:11.05mindjujuhe's got the cred
18:11.37DexterTheDragonmy keyboard doesn't even have a caps lock key, so I'm incapable of it
18:11.56mindjujumaybe it was S.R. Hadden ?
18:12.29mgearymaybe it was Gates McFadden?
18:12.44mindjujushe's a hawtie
18:12.54mgearyher name is Gates
18:14.07mindjujuso is mr. eyeballs all done, cause I got to go build something
18:14.36mindjujuhey oo_oo, are you all fixed now?
18:15.48josephscottshe was like what, 50 when she was on star trek?
18:16.26mindjuju@josephscott, don't be hatin' on Dr. Crusher
18:16.39josephscottjust sayin'
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18:17.06josephscottmindjuju: she is likely old enough to be your mom
18:17.45mindjujuoh sad, she's older
18:17.49mindjujuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_McFadden
18:17.51oo_ooI DOWNLOADED THE KOMODO HOW CAN  SET UP A FOLDER TO CONNECT VIA FTP ?
18:18.06DexterTheDragon~mgeary--
18:18.50mindjujuso oo_oo, let's drop the caps
18:19.16mindjujuabout ftp, i'm sure there is some kind of help file or something that says how to do so, personally, i've never used komodo, but as i say, i hear good things
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18:21.20mgearywth
18:21.44mgearymindjuju: wait a sec, her first name is Cheryl, and she chooses to go by Gates
18:21.45mgearywhatever
18:22.20mindjujuah dag!  she worked on labyrinth!
18:22.52mindjujushe's in hunt for red october???
18:23.07orsonjhaven't seen that one in quite a while
18:23.16mindjujuyeah, an awesome movie
18:23.35mindjujuhey oo_oo, i can't find an online versioni of their help for komodo setting up FTP
18:23.40mindjujubut i looked :(
18:24.21oo_oookay , i will use ftp  dreamweaver
18:24.28oo_ooand i change codes with komodo
18:24.28mindjujuk
18:24.51mindjujuthe only thing bad about Dr. Crusher was that pesky, smarmy Wesley
18:25.02mindjujuwhat a putz, they should have used him for dog food
18:25.23mgearyamen
18:25.34mgearyTribble Kibble
18:25.38orsonjoo_oo: you can also map an ftp drive using this method:http://www.redmondpie.com/access-ftp-sites-natively-in-windows-7/
18:25.39mindjujurofl
18:25.43mgearyi should totally trademark that
18:26.41oo_oookay
18:30.13influxquestion: Kirk, Picard, or Sisco?
18:31.09mindjujuPicard
18:31.35mindjujunever saw sisko and didn't really like janeway or whatever her name was
18:31.49ninnypantsany suggestions on a good online version control provider?
18:32.00mindjujugithub?
18:32.10oo_ooi need to make a fifo on php to process sql queries , anyone knows hows to do it ?
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18:33.06ninnypantsmindjuju: yeah I was thinking that but wasn't sure if anyone knew about anything else good out there
18:33.27influxoo_oo: What exactly are you trying to do?
18:33.42oo_ooa fifo to process sql queries
18:33.47oo_oobut i dont know how to do it
18:33.51oo_ooi want an example code
18:34.28oo_ooif i have 100 users doing a sql query to database and sql supports 80 max .. 20 queries will be not completed
18:34.28DexterTheDragonninnypants: I say github, but there's also http://codaset.com/ and http://sourcerepo.com/
18:34.33oo_ooi want to complete that 20 queries
18:34.50oo_ooso i must save sql string in some place and make a process to run it
18:34.58oo_ooone per one
18:35.10oo_oonot  doing sqls in the web
18:35.13mgearysounds to me like an architectural problem, not a code problem
18:35.34oo_oowell i dont see examples
18:35.39oo_oobut big sites use that
18:35.52oo_oothey dont process queries to database when a user press search
18:36.01DexterTheDragonjosephscott: do you use a fifo?
18:36.01oo_oothey save the search sql somewhere
18:36.09oo_ooand a deamon then runs that sqls
18:36.25josephscottDexterTheDragon: for what?
18:36.32DexterTheDragonsql queries
18:36.46mindjujuwe do FIFO for our food pantry, older cans get used first
18:36.58influx:)
18:37.00oo_oowhats that
18:37.18josephscottjust redis, built in queue feature
18:37.29josephscotts/just/just use redis/
18:37.45josephscottgah, that wasn't quite right :-)
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18:39.11josephscottDexterTheDragon / oo_oo - simple fifo using redis - http://rediscookbook.org/implement_a_fifo_queue.html
18:39.27josephscottyou can even do blocking pop, which is very cool
18:39.31oo_oookay
18:39.58oo_oobut i want code for php
18:40.26oo_oohow i make the sql wait time to process the next one  etc
18:40.42orsonjMy inlaws have a clever FIFO food storage system. They tipped a shelf slightly to one side. Everything rolls to the right. Way more space efficient than those FIFO systems they sell.
18:41.13DexterTheDragonshouldn't it be a CICO, can in can out?
18:41.46josephscottoo_oo: there are redis libs for php
18:41.52orsonjno, It should be a CIDO, can in dinner out
18:42.19orsonjbut it's not :(
18:42.20josephscottusing blocking pop you can easily limit the number of simultaneous processes
18:42.22mindjujuwe just rotated our shelves in a way that you to to the back of the shelf to load cans, and to the front of the shelf to get them
18:42.36orsonjnot bad
18:42.41mindjuju:)
18:42.42oo_oowhat is blocking pop ?
18:45.14josephscotthttp://redis.io/commands/blpop
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18:59.32josephscottone bug down, at least one more to go today
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19:13.18josephscott$8ball is it time for lunch yet?
19:13.26mindjujuyes
19:13.44josephscottoops, I forgot that I rebooted that server
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19:13.49josephscott$8ball is it time for lunch yet?
19:13.50raifbotjosephscott - You may rely on it.
19:13.54josephscottwelcome back :-)
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19:29.30carmonyjosephscott: my goodness, how does Matt @ automattic eat all that wonderful food and not get big?
19:29.59josephscottI was just thinking I'd like to eat some of the wonderful food :-)
19:30.28josephscottI usually only eat that way when I'm traveling though
19:30.37carmonyyeah
19:31.33carmonytomorrow is uphpu right?
19:31.45mindjujuyup
19:31.50carmonymindjuju: you coming? :D
19:31.54mindjujuit's utah_Dave presenting on code ignitor
19:32.10mindjujuif i do, i'll be late, my stats teacher takes no mercy
19:32.36josephscottunfortunately I won't be able to make it tomorrow night
19:33.05carmonyTell your stats professor that there is a 99.42% chance of awesomeness at UPHPU, and you can't deny those odds
19:34.12carmonyawww, bummer josephscott
19:34.52josephscottyeah, wife is out that night, so someone has to been at home with the kids :-)
19:43.34macnewbold$8ball doesn't carmony mean 99.86% ?
19:43.35raifbotmacnewbold - Don't count on it.
19:43.36ninnypantsanybody use aws for hosting version control?
19:44.12carmonylol
19:53.49jsmithninnypants: If I was, would I admit it in public?
19:55.12ninnypantsjsmith: dunno would you? :)
19:56.13jsmithninnypants: I wouldn't do either, to be honest.  AWS instances are supposed to be ephemeral -- they could be gone at any second
19:56.52jsmithninnypants: And while you can always write the files to more permanent storage (S3, for example), I'm not yet comfortable doing that for something as important as version control
19:58.51josephscottyou'd want to write it to an EBS volume to be sure
19:59.48jsmithjosephscott: Yeah, but that's another ball of wax :-p
20:00.14josephscottin what way?  EBS isn't hard to use
20:00.46jsmithNo, it just requires that folks understand what EBS, and why it's important, and the nuances...
20:01.00josephscottI would be the last person to ever claim AWS is a good idea for everything, but it has its place, all about which trade offs you are willing to make
20:01.21jsmithAnd if there's anything I've learned over the past few years, it's that many people don't care about details, or especially nuance...
20:02.15josephscottfor many use cases, I  think hosting revision control repo on AWS would likely be fine
20:04.44josephscottthe issue of EC2 instances being able to disappear at any point is hardly unique, a co-located server that you purchased and place by hand in a DC has the ability to die as well
20:05.20josephscottat least with EC2 you don't have to drive down there, or get on the phone with someone to spin up a replacement
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20:07.24ninnypantshmm maybe I'll stick with github for now...
20:07.52ninnypantstrying to find a good option for some random personal projects
20:09.59unumI should probably change my sources from stable to squeeze, or I will get bit by that again in two years....
20:12.31mindjujui think that im going to wipe out all my saved games and start playing half life from the beginning and play through opposition force, and blue shift (which i've owned but never played) through half life 2, 2.1 and 2.2
20:12.39mindjujuat my gaming hourly average of a couple hours a week
20:12.47mindjujulet's see if i finish before 2.3 comes out
20:12.56mindjujuoh, maybe i'll through portal on the heap somewhere
20:13.49mindjujumaybe i'll try for the little rocket man acheivement
20:15.40ninnypantsI need to play portal again gotta finish Dante's inferno first though
20:17.21mindjujuis dante any good?
20:17.25mindjujui hear it's like gods of war
20:18.59ninnypantsyeah it's pretty similar
20:19.28ninnypantsthe story is interesting it's a little on the grafic side though
20:19.41mindjujupretty interesting
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20:22.46ninnypantsyeah the games are pretty enjoyable and look really good
20:22.53ninnypantsthe worlds are interesting too
20:24.15mindjujui guess it could be worse, hl 2.3 hasn't quite reached duke nukem forever
20:24.19mindjujuthough it isn't far behind
20:24.48mindjujui hear DNF is coming out early may
20:24.52mindjujui wonder if that's a prank
20:25.54ninnypantsyeah I was thinking the episodes were supposed to be so they could do more releases on a shorter time frame but it's not seeming that way with ep 3
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20:26.35mindjujuyeah, gabe is stringing us out like coke addicts, making us buy his other games to quasi-satiate our need for resolution in hl 2.3
20:27.20ninnypantsI still haven't beat ep 2 yet I started then decided to start from 2.0 and play all the way though
20:27.37ninnypantsI really need to install 1 and actually play it
20:27.42SeKtAtrough aalib ?
20:27.55SeKtAin linux console :)
20:28.22ninnypantsthe only issues is I play the first half or so then get distracted and seem to always lose my save game
20:28.30ninnypantsSeKtA: yep :)
20:36.27SeKtAis good to try sqlite instaed mysql ? for small php project that i use to learn php or to reconfig my mysql because i always forgot root password, atm never use sql functions before :D
20:39.16herloSeKtA: sqlite is great to start with and possibly good for live apps depending on its traffic and desired database functionality
20:43.08unumand supported on android by default :)
21:36.35josephscottoh no http://devour.com/video/arthur-trailer/
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21:49.48SeKtAgood night all :)
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22:02.09mindjujuso if i say to my centos box, rpm -qa, it should list out all software packages installed via rpm
22:02.28mindjujuanything installed manually, however, i should prolly search for some kind of config in /etc ?
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22:08.57mgearycentos uses yum
22:09.24mindjujui thought yum was an overlay on rpm ?
22:09.54mgearydunno. never peeked under the hood
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22:12.30PoeticIntensityOkay...  I just made it to level 60 on ztype.
22:12.40PoeticIntensityBut my score sucks :-(
22:12.49PoeticIntensity11961 with 95.1% accuracy
22:13.09mgeary~mock PoeticIntensity
22:13.09ibotACTION pulls PoeticIntensity's pants down and shows the world PoeticIntensity's pink spotted underwear
22:13.30PoeticIntensitywhat what.... per chance, would your score be, mgeary?  Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????
22:13.58mgeary*would rather
22:14.05mindjujuah dag! poeticintensity calling out mgeary saying his typing is weak and unimpressive
22:14.07mindjujudag!
22:14.22PoeticIntensitypoint made.
22:14.40PoeticIntensityhaha..... man...
22:14.57PoeticIntensityI shouldn't allow myself to get like this at wrok.
22:14.58PoeticIntensitywork
22:15.01PoeticIntensityso how's everyone doing?
22:16.09PoeticIntensityjsmith, you probably rarely find yourself otherwise engaged.
22:16.16PoeticIntensityOnly a workaholic can know as much as you do.
22:16.57mindjujui'm afraid of the day when jsmith turns evil and tries to take over the world
22:17.00josephscott$8ball is jsmith a workaholic?
22:17.00jsmithI do get short breaks from time to time... or else I'd go insane
22:17.00raifbotjosephscott - My sources say no.
22:17.00mindjujuand wears a  cape
22:17.14jsmithNice!  raifbot rats me out :-)
22:17.32jsmithmindjuju: It's not a cape... it's a short, sleeveless jacket...
22:17.42mindjujulike a vest?
22:17.53mindjujuala Scorpio from the Simpsons?
22:17.57mindjujuseems like he had a vest
22:18.20PoeticIntensityhaha...
22:18.44mindjujuhere is jsmith when he goes bad
22:18.44mindjujuhttp://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp5p5xQVFU1qzx5hro1_400.jpg&imgrefurl=http://exspectator.tumblr.com/post/174949609/dontcookbilly-hamletcan-scorpio&usg=__LClX8jzB6bJpmJ8-ONzb1D5nLMs=&h=300&w=300&sz=24&hl=en&start=0&sig2=pmZZFSg0JXipZLclOkz4Bg&zoom=1&tbnid=xVCuxEsAhX-k6M:&tbnh=143&tbnw=143&ei=Mk1cTcSTO5HAsAO17MieCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dscorpio%2Bsimpsons%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1118%26bih%3D794%26gbv%3D2
22:18.57mindjujusrry, try this one
22:18.57mindjujuhttp://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp5p5xQVFU1qzx5hro1_400.jpg
22:19.07PoeticIntensityROFL
22:19.30PoeticIntensityman... I need a good laugh.
22:19.39PoeticIntensityso... wanna hear the latest from the studio?
22:19.46mindjujuyeah
22:20.42PoeticIntensityhttp://advancedbudgetstudios.com/clients/RSL/RSL9.mp3
22:21.21PoeticIntensitywww.wearerealsaltlake.com
22:21.33PoeticIntensityjsmith, c'mon... When have I ever done ya wrong?
22:21.44PoeticIntensityJust because I called ya a workaholic doesn't mean we can't be friends, right?
22:22.00jsmithPoeticIntensity: I didn't get to where I am (not that I'm all that and a bag of chips) by blindly clicking links in IRC :-p
22:22.07PoeticIntensityhaha...
22:22.31orsonjtrue, he gets much more done that way
22:23.01PoeticIntensityhey orsonj!  Been awhile since I saw you around here...
22:23.07PoeticIntensityor is it the other way around...?
22:23.15orsonjI'm around, but not always listening
22:23.38PoeticIntensityso, mindjuju, what do ya think?
22:24.06PoeticIntensityA rabid soccer fan came in to the studio and told me he was gonna write an anthem for Real Salt Lake.
22:24.09mindjujuit's good!
22:24.17PoeticIntensityI told him he was up in the night, until I heard it. :)
22:24.24PoeticIntensitythanks, mindjuju
22:25.02mgeary~massage mgeary
22:25.02ibotACTION gives mgeary a terribly relaxing full-body massage that puts mgeary to sleep
22:25.24orsonjhmmmm
22:25.28PoeticIntensitymakes me wonder if ibot is a female...
22:25.28orsonj~wake mgeary
22:25.29ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on mgeary and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
22:25.38mgeary~grump
22:25.41PoeticIntensity~monday mgeary
22:25.46PoeticIntensitypoo
22:25.47PoeticIntensity~poo
22:25.47ibotpoo is smelly
22:25.51PoeticIntensityHAHA...
22:26.45mgearyof course ibot is female
22:26.48orsonjyou should ignore the bots. raifbot told me to learn asp.net
22:26.50mgeary~gender ibot
22:26.50ibotI heard ibot is not sure.
22:27.01mgeary~gender
22:27.01ibotI'm male
22:27.04mgearypsh
22:27.10mgearyibot: you're not fooling anyone
22:27.10ibotno *you're* not fooling anyone
22:27.18mgearyoh yes i am
22:27.19orsonj$8ball should PoeticIntensity also learn asp.net
22:27.19raifbotorsonj - Without a doubt.
22:27.28orsonjgood, I'm not alone
22:27.31PoeticIntensityorsonj, ... bah...  bad omen.
22:27.53PoeticIntensitytoo late.  I'm arleady neck-deep in .NET-MVC / C#
22:28.00josephscott$8ball do you ever tell the truth?
22:28.01raifbotjosephscott - Outlook not so good.
22:28.05PoeticIntensityseems like a guy can't get a decent php job without having to learn M$ crap.
22:28.36PoeticIntensity(that's kind of why I'm gonna try to run my studio full time! woo hoo!)
22:28.40mgearyPoeticIntensity: i was looking for a .net person to refer to recently
22:28.54PoeticIntensityyup... I read that one..  and closed it post-haste.
22:29.30PoeticIntensityjust because I'm neck deep in it, does NOT mean I enjoy it, nor do I even slightly understand it.
22:29.38mgearyhehehe
22:29.58carmonyanyone here want this wii stand? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/326939/wii_stand.jpg
22:29.58PoeticIntensityjust hackin' the crap out of stuff, hoping I'm doing it right.
22:30.26PoeticIntensitya good lookin' stand, indeed, but won't fit our arrangement.
22:31.47carmonyI just want to get rid of it, so before I toss it out wanted to check if anyone else wanted it :P
22:33.47mindjujuwhoami
22:33.57mindjujurong window
22:34.09PoeticIntensity~lart mindjuju
22:34.09ibotwhips out a shotgun, trudges over to mindjuju, and goes postal
22:34.12josephscottyou are mindjuju
22:34.17PoeticIntensitywow.  that was a bit violent.
22:34.24josephscott$lart mindjuju
22:34.24raifbottakes out mindjuju  with the trash.
22:34.32mindjujuthanks a heap, gents
22:34.50PoeticIntensityso we fill you full of buckshot, then take you out to the trash...
22:34.52josephscott$chuck-fact
22:34.52raifbotChuck Norris can watch DVD's on a VCR
22:34.53PoeticIntensitythat's some serious two-teaming.
22:34.58josephscottto cheer up mindjuju  :-)
22:35.18josephscott$weather sandy, ut
22:35.18raifbotjosephscott - current weather for sandy, ut - Mostly Cloudy 53f / 12c Humidity: 37% Wind: S at 27 mph
22:35.45mindjujulucky me, i'm sans jacket
22:36.10mindjujuit needed a warsh (that's how it's pronounced here)
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22:36.49josephscott$rm mindjuju's jacket
22:36.49raifbotopens /dev/null and eliminates mindjuju's jacket forever.
22:37.42mindjujuyeah, thx but i like my jacket with the woolly inside and woolly hoody
22:44.45unumhave you guys had a presentation on REST?
22:44.57carmonyI don't think we have yet
22:49.34josephscottI'm sure you meant a REST representation ;-)
22:49.41SunSparcSo you want to teach us how to sleep?
22:49.54josephscott$binary2decimal 110011
22:49.54raifbotjosephscott - binary2decimal( '110011' ) : 51
22:50.21SunSparc~hash josephscott
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22:50.58mgeary$sha256 josephscott
22:51.05mgearypsh. piece of garbage
22:51.27josephscott$sha1 mgeary
22:51.27raifbotjosephscott - sha1( 'mgeary ' ) :  0cdc77cadf10ba8f4c6dfbae3607ff69c1a5be0d
22:51.36mgearyhahah
22:51.37josephscottguess I never got around to adding sha256
22:51.37mgearytouche
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23:05.40josephscottdocumenting more raifbot commands - http://raifbot.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/more-commands-documented-8ball-decimal2binary-binary2decimal-base64-decode-base64-encode/
23:05.49josephscott$help
23:05.49raifbotjosephscott help is at http://raifbot.wordpress.com/
23:08.05DexterTheDragon$help 8ball
23:08.05raifbotDexterTheDragon help is at http://raifbot.wordpress.com/
23:08.08DexterTheDragonlame
23:15.18josephscottone step at a time :-)
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