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| 03:57.23 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 03:57.23 | raifbot | When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn't lifting himself up, he's pushing the Earth down. |
| 03:57.55 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 03:57.55 | raifbot | Chuck Norris once broke the land speed record on a bicycle that was missing its chain and the back tire. |
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| 04:57.11 | MorrisCox | Finally remembered what server this channel is on. |
| 05:06.41 | herlo | freenode baby, where else?! |
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| 05:15.21 | ninnypants | hey herlo how goes? |
| 05:16.04 | ninnypants | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2011021108493059 |
| 05:18.21 | MorrisCox | I wished more websites took advantage of torrents. |
| 05:19.07 | herlo | hi |
| 05:19.12 | herlo | ninnypants: good |
| 05:20.03 | ninnypants | herlo: you travelling or at home with sig0 and the kid this weekend? |
| 05:20.36 | ninnypants | MorrisCox: I think too many people are afraid to go into that area |
| 05:21.31 | MorrisCox | New today from the White House: A Strategy for American Innovation http://slidesha.re/hWV5qd |
| 05:21.52 | MorrisCox | Actually, that was from Feb 4. Found it on Twitter. |
| 05:22.05 | herlo | ninnypants: at home |
| 05:22.13 | herlo | will be home next week too |
| 05:22.17 | ninnypants | sweet! |
| 05:22.32 | herlo | ninnypants: reminds me, your buddy who did the shirts, we need to pay him. |
| 05:22.39 | MorrisCox | Agreed. I keep hiring that torrents are only for pirating stuff. Even mentioning that Linux ISOs, WoW, and Anarchy Online use it doesn't seem to help much. |
| 05:22.44 | herlo | we're working on it right now, can't find the checkbook :( |
| 05:22.48 | ninnypants | you should have a invoice in paypal |
| 05:22.58 | MorrisCox | hiring=hearing |
| 05:23.04 | herlo | I do, but I don't have any UTOS funds in there anymore :/ |
| 05:23.32 | herlo | MorrisCox: wow, that's like when people who mean to say 'hello' instead say 'herlo' :) |
| 05:23.51 | ninnypants | ahh guess I was slow getting him to send it |
| 05:23.52 | herlo | which I never understand, but believe me, it happens a lot |
| 05:24.07 | herlo | ninnypants: nah, we should have paid it way back when |
| 05:24.18 | MorrisCox | I type too fast. Bleah. |
| 05:24.19 | herlo | so we'll get to it soon |
| 05:24.30 | herlo | MorrisCox: :) no worries, just teasing |
| 05:24.38 | herlo | $8ball am I a big teaser? |
| 05:24.38 | raifbot | herlo - Better not tell you now. |
| 05:24.41 | ninnypants | ok he'd forgotten until I remembered the other night |
| 05:24.42 | MorrisCox | I get worse from my family. :) |
| 05:24.50 | herlo | ninnypants: hehe |
| 05:26.08 | MorrisCox | So far, I've had better luck with being innovative in Second Life. |
| 05:26.29 | herlo | Is cyber-warfare a genuine threat? |
| 05:26.45 | MorrisCox | I would say yes. |
| 05:27.12 | herlo | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9393589.stm |
| 05:27.13 | MorrisCox | It's real easy to do. |
| 05:28.23 | herlo | thus my laughing, it's just as much a threat as any other warfare imo |
| 05:28.24 | MorrisCox | My last job was 5.5 years as an IT department. Lots of attacks on the servers. |
| 05:28.39 | herlo | possibly more |
| 05:29.08 | MorrisCox | One of my brothers used to do nukes on a whim if someone was bothering him or someone else. |
| 05:29.18 | ninnypants | easily more because it's cheap in a sense and doesn't cost lives on the attacker's end |
| 05:30.32 | MorrisCox | There are botnets with over a million zombies. |
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| 05:30.59 | ninnypants | Let's take Android. It's something new and the world is loving it. So what happened once it became a hit? Patent and copyright infringement lawsuits up the kazoo. Is that going to encourage innovation? And it's not just Android. It's any successful technical product. They all have to spend millions in litigation. And it's a drain on the economy too, because when the plaintiffs win, that money isn't a win for innovation, not when |
| 05:31.01 | ninnypants | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.34 | MorrisCox | Lawyers do the real winning. |
| 05:33.12 | ninnypants | for sure |
| 05:34.12 | ninnypants | wow! |
| 05:34.15 | ninnypants | The USâ Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) recently unveiled a supercomputer made out of 1,760 PlayStation 3 consoles. (They used older PS3s instead of PS3 Slims due to the Slimsâ lack of Linux support; looks like that wasnât just a fringe Slashdot-type issue after all.) Dubbed the Condor Cluster, the Air Forceâs new computer has some serious specs â 500 TeraFLOPS, with 168 separate GPUs and 84 coordinating servers. |
| 05:34.19 | ninnypants | According to the Air Force, at $2 million, the system costs only five to ten percent as much as a comparable system made from separate components, in addition to consuming one-tenth the energy. |
| 05:35.42 | MorrisCox | Sony might be in the wrong business. :) |
| 05:38.40 | ninnypants | heh they disabled this and sued someone for showing them an exploit |
| 05:39.12 | ninnypants | they're definitely in the wrong business they should just be patent trolls |
| 05:39.42 | MorrisCox | "DRM - the imposition of restrictions on usage of content by technical means - is far more than that. It's like checking the lift ticket, yes, but also the guy checks you are only wearing gear hired from the resort shop, skis with you down the slope and trips you if you try any manoeuvers that weren't taught to you by the resort ski instructor; then as you go down the slope he pushes you away |
| 05:39.42 | MorrisCox | from the moguls because those are a premium feature and finally you get to run the gauntlet of armed security guards at the bottom of the slope checking for people who haven't paid." |
| 05:40.19 | ninnypants | heh I take it you're reading the same article |
| 05:41.11 | MorrisCox | In between multitasking other things. |
| 05:43.36 | ninnypants | same here |
| 05:43.45 | ninnypants | I should really write some code |
| 05:44.47 | herlo | me too, but I'm tired |
| 05:44.55 | herlo | maybe tomorrow |
| 05:47.08 | MorrisCox | I'm supposed to be using the Google Directions API to get the distances between 2 points, but I'm not grasphing it. |
| 05:47.30 | MorrisCox | Grasping, even. Sheesh. |
| 05:48.07 | ninnypants | do you have the long and lat for the two places? |
| 05:48.45 | ninnypants | herlo: I'm getting that way but tomorrow is Sunday so whatever |
| 05:49.04 | herlo | sleeep noooooowwwwww |
| 05:49.07 | herlo | for meeeeee |
| 05:49.12 | herlo | nn guys |
| 05:49.17 | ninnypants | later herlo |
| 05:49.42 | MorrisCox | No, I don't. |
| 05:49.50 | MorrisCox | Gnight, herlo. |
| 05:49.59 | ninnypants | what do you have? |
| 05:50.26 | MorrisCox | ninnypants, it's for a website that the group I'm in are making. We'll know what the businesses are and their addresses. |
| 05:50.49 | MorrisCox | The idea is to show the person how far particular businesses are from them. |
| 05:51.13 | ninnypants | how are you getting their location? |
| 05:51.46 | MorrisCox | From them or the phone book. So it's a physical location address. |
| 05:52.53 | MorrisCox | For the user, they'll be able to enter their current address (rather on, we'll also offer GPS entry) for the starting point. |
| 06:00.18 | ninnypants | MorrisCox: http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/javascript/services.html#Geocoding |
| 06:03.53 | MorrisCox | Interesting article. Going to post it on Twitter and Facebook. |
| 06:04.23 | MorrisCox | Thanks. |
| 06:05.09 | MorrisCox | I managed to have partial success with http://74.211.22.37/shopping/directions.php However, if I remove the map element (the group wants to show the map on a seperate page if someone wants more info), the distance measurement disappears. |
| 06:07.33 | ninnypants | it's cause google doesn't let you get distances without showing a map it's in their api terms |
| 06:08.57 | MorrisCox | Yeah, I know. I even pointed out to the group and was told that other websites put the map on a seperate page in order to fulfill the compliance requirement. |
| 06:10.05 | ninnypants | hmm never seen it |
| 06:10.15 | ninnypants | this for a school project? |
| 06:10.31 | MorrisCox | No, a future business. |
| 06:11.08 | ninnypants | ahh sounds almost like working on a school project ;p |
| 06:11.15 | MorrisCox | If I learn how it works in practice, I can modify it and reuse it in other ways. |
| 06:11.39 | MorrisCox | Well, almost everyone else are teenagers or just barely in college. |
| 06:12.00 | ninnypants | I wonder if a work around would be to set the map div to display non or something |
| 06:14.30 | MorrisCox | Worth a try. |
| 06:16.00 | MorrisCox | Whoa. I'm so tired I can't even remember how to link to a .css file in the .html file. I'm going to bed early tonight. |
| 06:16.54 | ninnypants | you just need more caffine |
| 06:17.06 | MorrisCox | I only take caffeine in chocolate. |
| 06:17.15 | MorrisCox | Finally got the link in. |
| 06:19.47 | MorrisCox | http://74.211.22.37/shopping/directions.php Looks like your idea worked! |
| 06:20.06 | ninnypants | I wonder if that's how other places did it |
| 06:20.14 | ninnypants | probably |
| 06:20.19 | MorrisCox | Now to do the measurement in miles. Have to divide by some number. |
| 06:20.24 | ninnypants | not sure how that complies with the tos |
| 06:20.33 | MorrisCox | Or maybe they were using something else like MapQuest. |
| 06:21.04 | ninnypants | you should be able to get the distance in feet or some other imperial mesurement |
| 06:21.10 | ninnypants | I know there's an option for it |
| 06:22.40 | MorrisCox | I just realized that I could have also set the height and width to 0. *facepalm* |
| 06:24.58 | ninnypants | lack of sleep can do that |
| 06:25.26 | MorrisCox | unitSystem: DirectionsUnitSystem.IMPERIAL |
| 06:25.47 | MorrisCox | I started making websites in 1995. I know I'm a bit rusty, but still. |
| 06:26.19 | ninnypants | any idea where to get the longitude and latitude of ever state and county line in the us? |
| 06:28.19 | MorrisCox | Hmmm... |
| 06:29.20 | MorrisCox | Try http://jesseprice.com/mysql-city-state-zip-latitude-longitude-database/ |
| 06:32.59 | ninnypants | hmm maybe so |
| 06:34.42 | MorrisCox | Even better, http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Place_completion_tool#Download_resources |
| 06:35.41 | MorrisCox | http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/download_data.htm |
| 06:37.06 | ninnypants | sweet |
| 06:38.54 | ninnypants | hmm they all seem to be less accurate versions of this http://www.maxmind.com/app/ip-location |
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| 06:40.41 | MorrisCox | You get what you pay for? :) |
| 06:41.05 | ninnypants | there are free versions too they're just a little less accurate |
| 06:41.41 | ninnypants | not shown as prominent as their pay products ;) |
| 06:44.17 | MorrisCox | Figures. |
| 06:45.01 | ninnypants | yeah but it's still more accurate than most sites will ever need |
| 06:45.28 | MorrisCox | It might come in handy for my group. |
| 06:48.36 | ninnypants | I've thought about using it but it doesn't have what I need |
| 06:48.49 | ninnypants | I need the coordinates for the actual outlines |
| 06:49.59 | MorrisCox | Polygon coords. Hmm... |
| 06:50.52 | ninnypants | yeah really wish there weren't so many places named state line |
| 06:53.48 | MorrisCox | Agreed. |
| 06:55.04 | ninnypants | but yeah you'd think info like that would be very accessible |
| 07:00.05 | MorrisCox | Maybe we aren't searching right. |
| 07:04.25 | ninnypants | maybe but I'm not sure what else to search for |
| 07:04.39 | ninnypants | already looking into building one myself |
| 07:04.50 | ninnypants | any idea how to get pointer coordinates? |
| 07:08.35 | MorrisCox | Would think usgs.gov |
| 07:13.17 | MorrisCox | http://nmviewogc.cr.usgs.gov/viewer.htm |
| 07:13.48 | ninnypants | this is really good http://www.3planeta.com/googlemaps/google-maps.html |
| 07:13.50 | MorrisCox | http://nationalmap.gov/viewers.html |
| 07:14.32 | MorrisCox | Nice. |
| 07:17.09 | MorrisCox | You might be interested in http://stress.onlinebeta.com/ |
| 07:21.55 | MorrisCox | Time for bed. Gnight and thanks for the help. |
| 07:22.13 | ninnypants | later |
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