| 00:00.14 | herlo | supernovia: do eet! |
| 00:00.20 | supernovia | $8ball am I destined to be a druggie? |
| 00:00.20 | raifbot | supernovia - Yes - definitely. |
| 00:00.23 | supernovia | oh noes! |
| 00:00.24 | herlo | you won't become a druggie |
| 00:00.32 | herlo | $8ball you are an idiot |
| 00:00.32 | raifbot | herlo - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 00:00.33 | supernovia | my lungs don't hurt THAT bad right now |
| 00:00.35 | herlo | $8ball you are an idiot |
| 00:00.35 | raifbot | herlo - It is certain. |
| 00:01.12 | herlo | supernovia: you will eventually run out of the drug and it's probably going to be harder than you like to try to convince the doctor that you need more |
| 00:01.22 | supernovia | I do only have 7 days worth |
| 00:01.26 | ninnypants2 | supernovia: I'd say your lungs hurting is usually not a good thing |
| 00:01.27 | herlo | that is what would make you a druggie if you could manipulate the system to get more drugs :P |
| 00:01.36 | supernovia | they don't hurt very much right now though |
| 00:01.43 | herlo | just saying |
| 00:01.47 | herlo | I'm not a doctor |
| 00:01.51 | supernovia | true. |
| 00:01.56 | herlo | not giving advice on when to take drugs that make you feel loopy :) |
| 00:02.12 | supernovia | and my doctor _did_ prescribe this stuff. but I think I'd be taking it for the wrong reason since I'm not in that much pain at the moment. |
| 00:02.16 | supernovia | so much as I am annoyed |
| 00:02.17 | ninnypants2 | depends on how you have to get home too :) |
| 00:02.40 | supernovia | and I really ought to drive to orem and help this client order her print materials since it probably wont' happen til I do that |
| 00:02.58 | ninnypants2 | if you're riding the bus I'd say don't take it. It'll just be a bad trip ;p |
| 00:03.06 | herlo | lol |
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| 00:03.12 | supernovia | oh I'm really good at riding buses :-p |
| 00:03.16 | supernovia | see ya herlo |
| 00:03.20 | herlo | time to head home and get some food with the fam |
| 00:03.24 | ninnypants | later herlo |
| 00:03.27 | SunSparc | supernovia: I prescribe that you take a nice run through the brisk winter air. |
| 00:03.27 | supernovia | have fun fooding the fam |
| 00:03.51 | supernovia | at least then I'd have a good excuse to take the pill :-p |
| 00:03.58 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 00:14.03 | supernovia | $8ball should I pack up the kids and drive to orem and wash this project right outta my hair? (or at least the print part of it?) |
| 00:14.03 | raifbot | supernovia - Most likely. |
| 00:14.47 | SunSparc | My answer is a definite, Yes. |
| 00:14.54 | supernovia | hehe. |
| 00:15.03 | supernovia | And then do the site. Yeah I should. |
| 00:15.08 | supernovia | hehe |
| 00:15.17 | SunSparc | :) |
| 00:15.25 | SunSparc | $8ball should I change my life? |
| 00:15.25 | raifbot | SunSparc - Don't count on it. |
| 00:15.32 | SunSparc | Ok |
| 00:15.38 | supernovia | $8ball but I should change my life, right? |
| 00:15.39 | raifbot | supernovia - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 00:16.06 | supernovia | good. I like my life. |
| 00:16.18 | supernovia | alright .. off to orem I go⦠|
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| 00:16.51 | SunSparc | Have fun! |
| 00:17.09 | supercheckin | er, |
| 00:19.19 | wps | I just found out that Brian Reagan charges 100k to come perform |
| 00:19.27 | wps | that's insane |
| 00:19.37 | supercheckedin | so much for getting him at uphpu |
| 00:20.01 | wps | even if you only performed once a week and gave half to your agent, that's 2.5 M |
| 00:20.12 | wps | PER YEAR!!! |
| 00:20.37 | josephscott | who is Brian Reagan ? |
| 00:21.04 | wps | http://www.brianregan.com/ |
| 00:21.30 | josephscott | $google Brian Reagan |
| 00:21.31 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=Brian+Reagan -- http://www.brianregan.com/ -- http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DWUU9CqrtFiU -- http://www.drreagan.com/ |
| 00:22.55 | ninnypants | he looks like will ferrel and glen beck had a kid |
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| 00:31.24 | beandog | wow |
| 00:31.31 | beandog | some warning on the before and after shots would have been helpful. |
| 00:32.07 | supercheckedin | ? |
| 00:37.28 | beandog | Nothing quite prepares you for a face full of cellulite. |
| 00:40.09 | supercheckedin | yeah.. ok. in that case I'd rather not know :-p |
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| 00:45.06 | supernovia | (still hasn't left) |
| 00:45.09 | supernovia | how's it going sheri? |
| 00:45.30 | sheri | pretty good :) |
| 00:45.38 | supernovia | :-D |
| 00:46.00 | sheri | I decided to become a Trac expert :) |
| 00:46.05 | supernovia | Oh yah? |
| 00:46.36 | sheri | bugs beware |
| 00:47.50 | supernovia | I forgot to design an envelope. should be a quick no brainer |
| 00:47.56 | supernovia | but I have no brain tonight :T |
| 00:48.42 | supernovia | my template says not to include a state/zip in the return addressâ¦. |
| 00:48.58 | sheri | seems odd |
| 00:49.05 | supernovia | I thought so... |
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| 01:58.28 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 01:58.28 | raifbot | Chuck Norris knows where Carmen Sandiego is. |
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| 02:06.19 | beandog | lol |
| 02:46.40 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart beandog |
| 02:46.40 | ibot | takes a big bite out of beandog's jugular vein |
| 02:46.54 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: o hai |
| 02:48.50 | DexterTheDragon | wassup beandog |
| 02:51.07 | beandog | setting up a linode |
| 02:51.11 | beandog | and watching dr. who |
| 02:51.16 | beandog | and ignoring homework. |
| 02:53.41 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: what episode ya on on dr who? |
| 02:54.44 | beandog | uh |
| 02:54.46 | beandog | season 4 |
| 02:54.51 | beandog | poison something episode |
| 02:55.12 | DexterTheDragon | nice |
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| 03:23.19 | beandog | whats a good way to offload caching to apache |
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| 03:27.54 | eggyknap | you mean like a reverse proxy? |
| 03:28.05 | beandog | no |
| 03:28.20 | beandog | just caching pages as static html |
| 03:38.39 | beandog | oh I guess it could be taht |
| 03:38.39 | beandog | that |
| 03:51.38 | eggyknap | For whatever it's worth, I'm playing with apache traffic server @ work ... it's a PITA. |
| 03:51.55 | eggyknap | But I don't know its competitors particularly well. Varnish and nginx are some well-known alternatives |
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| 04:22.51 | wps | ahhhhâ¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦ |
| 04:22.51 | wps | whiplash |
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| 04:32.01 | supernovia | ah brasto left. Anyone headed up to his wedding reception? |
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| 04:46.38 | eggyknap | brasto's getting hitched? Good for him! |
| 04:49.27 | supernovia | :) |
| 04:49.31 | supernovia | ya |
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| 06:21.38 | wps | josephscott: so you have me sold on p2 |
| 06:21.52 | josephscott | wps: yeah? you been trying it out? |
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| 06:22.33 | wps | I think that the WP code could use a clean-up, but P2 is definitely an improvement for WP |
| 06:23.10 | wps | it combined with the "Theme My Login" plugin is actually exactly what I was trying to get WP to do with the UPHPU site several years ago |
| 06:40.15 | wps | josephscott: you don't happen to know where in the p2 code the yellow highlight color is that shows when a new item has been written into the DOM, do you? |
| 06:40.28 | wps | it's the yellow that appears with new content and then fades to white |
| 06:40.55 | josephscott | not off the top of my head |
| 07:05.53 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 07:05.54 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can slam a revolving door. |
| 07:06.08 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 07:06.08 | raifbot | Chuck Norris will never have a heart attack. His heart isn't nearly foolish enough to attack him. |
| 07:06.13 | josephscott | $weather sandy, ut |
| 07:06.13 | raifbot | josephscott - current weather for sandy, ut - Clear 11f / -12c Humidity: 63% Wind: SE at 5 mph |
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| 12:58.13 | eggyknap | $weather holladay, ut |
| 12:58.13 | raifbot | eggyknap - current weather for holladay, ut - Cloudy 15f / -9c Humidity: 72% Wind: SE at 5 mph |
| 12:58.18 | eggyknap | chilly. |
| 13:37.17 | supernovia | $weather my apartment |
| 13:37.17 | raifbot | supernovia - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for my apartment |
| 13:37.24 | supernovia | it's freaking cold. |
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| 16:08.28 | mgeary | this is lovely |
| 16:08.45 | mgeary | got this from a "server/network administrator"- |
| 16:09.20 | mgeary | "Iâm not sure what youâre asking for. Youâve got the account user/password and the MySQL user/password. What files do you want to access that canât be accessed thru either of these?" |
| 16:09.45 | mgeary | that when i asked for sudo privileges or the root pwd for the machine. It appears that it's not that he doesn't want to give it, but that he doesn't understand the question |
| 16:09.54 | mgeary | that's just sad |
| 16:10.26 | josephscott | mgeary: perhaps he just wants to know exactly what you are trying to access that you can't get to already |
| 16:10.37 | mgeary | already told him that |
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| 16:11.10 | josephscott | bummer, then he should find a way to allow you access to those items, either sudo or some other way |
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| 16:12.11 | mgeary | reminds me of something from yesterday. We had moved a client's site to a Rackspace server (away from MediaTemple), and a developer he's done some work with wanted us to tell him how to access the server "control panel" |
| 16:12.30 | mgeary | we're like, "uh... there isn't one" |
| 16:12.35 | itimber | haha |
| 16:12.48 | mgeary | was a big deal for him. i hate Plesk/cPanel/Webmin/etc |
| 16:14.06 | josephscott | some folks really like the control panel stuff, never been a big user of them myself |
| 16:25.23 | carmony | I used to like Plesk |
| 16:25.25 | thebigdog | i love control panels and wizards they are the diggity bomb |
| 16:25.38 | carmony | especially 6 years ago when I started |
| 16:25.48 | carmony | but overtime when I learned how to configure everything on my own |
| 16:25.55 | carmony | I stopped liking plesk |
| 16:26.12 | mgeary | i've had too many times where they overwrote my config changes because i could never figure out how to make them NOT do that |
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| 16:47.39 | beandog | ~seen macnewbold |
| 16:47.43 | ibot | macnewbold <~Adium@66.60.115.30> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 18h 51m 54s ago, saying: 'yeah, ie is the one'. |
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| 17:01.07 | josephscott | $lart |
| 17:01.10 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 17:01.11 | raifbot | beats cro to within 2.54cm of his life. |
| 17:01.20 | josephscott | $weather sandy, ut |
| 17:01.21 | raifbot | josephscott - current weather for sandy, ut - Partly Cloudy 18f / -8c Humidity: 64% Wind: SE at 6 mph |
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| 17:06.48 | beandog | ~snow josephscott |
| 17:06.48 | ibot | ACTION gets a bunch of white paper dots and shreds and flies over josephscott in a helicopter, dropping them incessantly |
| 17:07.06 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, ping |
| 17:07.25 | DexterTheDragon | ~pong beandog |
| 17:07.25 | ibot | beandog: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:07.33 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, where you working these days? |
| 17:07.46 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: Divergent Logic |
| 17:07.55 | beandog | wheres that? |
| 17:08.00 | DexterTheDragon | layton |
| 17:08.12 | beandog | is that by the tar pits? |
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| 17:08.34 | DexterTheDragon | where's the tar pits? |
| 17:08.40 | beandog | beats me |
| 17:08.49 | unum | which ones? |
| 17:09.08 | unum | therer's a gravel pit north east of layton |
| 17:09.14 | unum | but I don't know about any tar pits |
| 17:09.37 | herlo | tar pits are in LA |
| 17:09.48 | herlo | :P |
| 17:09.55 | beandog | oh |
| 17:09.56 | beandog | whoops. |
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| 17:10.30 | herlo | maybe there are some here, but probably near Vernal if anywhere |
| 17:12.31 | beandog | I guess that means I can't push DexterTheDragon in a puddle of tar anytime soon. |
| 17:15.22 | carmony | lol |
| 17:15.30 | carmony | $weather ogden, ut |
| 17:15.30 | raifbot | carmony - current weather for ogden, ut - Cloudy 21f / -6c Humidity: 43% Wind: N at 0 mph |
| 17:16.01 | josephscott | $weather tarpits |
| 17:16.01 | raifbot | josephscott - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for tarpits |
| 17:16.46 | josephscott | $google tarpits |
| 17:16.46 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=tarpits -- http://www.tarpits.org/ -- http://www.tarpits.org/info/visit.html -- http://www.tarpits.org/info/hours.html |
| 17:17.20 | herlo | la brea is awesome |
| 17:17.29 | herlo | they had a dirty jobs on it the other day. Pretty cool |
| 17:17.42 | herlo | Mike Rowe cleaned Pit 91 |
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| 17:24.00 | josephscott | beandog: did you end up importing all of your old posts on to your wordpress.com hosted site? |
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| 17:24.22 | beandog | josephscott, yah, worked |
| 17:24.42 | josephscott | k, that explains while google readers shows a gazillion new posts for your feed |
| 17:25.28 | beandog | a gazillion |
| 17:25.39 | beandog | that's a lot |
| 17:27.21 | josephscott | yep, it's a technical term :-) |
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| 17:36.22 | beandog | google reader whacked the dates on em |
| 17:36.30 | beandog | Why is all feed parsing software *so crappy* |
| 17:36.34 | beandog | I mean, they ALL suck |
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| 17:36.44 | beandog | I'm so glad I don't run a planet anymore. It is hell. |
| 17:37.00 | carmony | lol |
| 17:38.16 | beandog | Everything is pissing me off lately. |
| 17:38.29 | beandog | Well, no that's not true. |
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| 17:51.58 | SunSparc | I just learned that my wireless password "would take About 71 septendecillion years for a desktop PC to crack your password". |
| 17:53.50 | beandog | either thats a good password, or some crappy software. |
| 17:54.03 | SunSparc | http://howsecureismypassword.net/ |
| 17:54.42 | mindjuju | or it's trying to get you to give it your password, since it knows your IP |
| 17:55.49 | ninnypants | hmm my password is only 1 million years but that's one that I use every day so it's a little shorter than usual |
| 17:56.02 | mindjuju | I wonder if this is taking into account, Moore's law |
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| 17:57.23 | mindjuju | http://plugins.jquery.com/project/chronoStrength |
| 17:57.41 | josephscott | SunSparc: you are sharing your password with a random site you know nothing about? |
| 17:57.51 | josephscott | seems like a nice way to collect passwords, just ask people for them :-) |
| 17:58.27 | SunSparc | josephscott: ;) |
| 17:58.37 | mindjuju | it seems to be the showoff site for the chronostrength jquery plugin |
| 17:58.43 | mindjuju | so prolly ok |
| 17:58.50 | mindjuju | but it doesn't take into account moore's law |
| 17:59.02 | mindjuju | calculationsPerSecond allows you to set the number of passwords a PC can try each second. Currently 10 million is used as a default, as this is roughly how many passwords a decent desktop PC could check. However you can send it any value you like: |
| 17:59.12 | SunSparc | It is running locally. If you are worried about, unplug your Internet connection before you typing in a password. |
| 17:59.20 | josephscott | is it assuming a particular hashing method? |
| 17:59.27 | josephscott | there are lots of ways to hash a password |
| 17:59.37 | beandog | yah |
| 17:59.38 | beandog | lots of variables. |
| 17:59.40 | josephscott | phpass for instance implements stretching, which makes it harder |
| 17:59.46 | DexterTheDragon | ~variable beandog |
| 18:00.17 | mindjuju | this is only doing brute-force attacks at a rate you specify |
| 18:00.40 | beandog | $ pwgen 1786 1 |
| 18:00.44 | beandog | there's my password. |
| 18:00.44 | mindjuju | now, here is my question |
| 18:01.04 | mindjuju | the app is called ChronoStrength, but shouldn't it be called cryptostrength? |
| 18:01.44 | beandog | chrono > crypto |
| 18:02.19 | mindjuju | chrono = time |
| 18:02.59 | josephscott | I think I'd take the results of their tests with a large (boulder size) grain of salt |
| 18:03.00 | mindjuju | sure, it may sound cool, but does the strength really belong to the time it takes or to the crypto of the pass? |
| 18:03.11 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: it's testing for brute force guessing, not hash cracking |
| 18:03.21 | beandog | Do people even use brute force attacks |
| 18:03.23 | mindjuju | yup |
| 18:03.25 | beandog | thats the question |
| 18:03.30 | beandog | How common is that attack used |
| 18:03.39 | beandog | *commonly |
| 18:03.42 | beandog | something. |
| 18:03.50 | mindjuju | i think the question should really be, should I eat a sammich today or go out? |
| 18:05.01 | josephscott | depends on how you hash your passwords |
| 18:05.16 | josephscott | if you only use md5, I can brute force it usually with one google search :-) |
| 18:05.51 | beandog | http://xkcd.com/538/ |
| 18:05.53 | mindjuju | @josephscott, how long would it take you to brute force using bing? |
| 18:06.14 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: the same cause bing uses google |
| 18:06.14 | josephscott | probably just as long |
| 18:06.29 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: bought into the google hype? |
| 18:06.29 | mindjuju | ^5 true that DtD |
| 18:06.40 | mindjuju | i forgot they tracked bing using their searches |
| 18:06.50 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, lol |
| 18:06.54 | mindjuju | @josephscott, they tainted the searches to see if bing was copying, and they were |
| 18:07.07 | josephscott | mindjuju: ie toolbar tracks clicks |
| 18:07.27 | josephscott | so if google employee goes home, installs bing ie toolbar, clicks on tainted link, what would you expect to happen? |
| 18:07.40 | beandog | a cupcake to magically appear |
| 18:07.47 | beandog | that never does happen, though. |
| 18:07.49 | josephscott | google does the samething with their toolbar |
| 18:07.51 | SunSparc | Mmmmm... cupcakes... |
| 18:07.54 | josephscott | not rocket surgery |
| 18:08.10 | SunSparc | lol rocket surgery |
| 18:08.18 | beandog | lol |
| 18:08.53 | mindjuju | i played minecraft once, but didn't "get it" |
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| 18:09.02 | mindjuju | go around, punching the floor |
| 18:09.05 | mindjuju | what's the point? |
| 18:09.12 | beandog | it's better than farmville? |
| 18:09.20 | mindjuju | i don't play farmville |
| 18:09.32 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Yep, that is what happened when I first played it. Then about 6 months later I tried it again and finally, I got it. |
| 18:09.53 | carmony | http://www.percona.com/about-us/white-papers/ -- Their new white paper on mysql emergency prevention is pretty darn good |
| 18:09.58 | mindjuju | ok, i'll try it again in about a month and see |
| 18:10.09 | josephscott | carmony: percona has some smart folks |
| 18:10.22 | SunSparc | Minecraft is all about creating your own world and surviving in it. |
| 18:11.03 | beandog | " Unless there is a compelling |
| 18:11.03 | beandog | need to use it (such as reliance on one of the features |
| 18:11.03 | beandog | it provides), you should use InnoDB and configure it |
| 18:11.03 | beandog | as the default. |
| 18:11.03 | beandog | " |
| 18:11.04 | beandog | Amen. |
| 18:11.10 | SunSparc | Oh, and you HAVE to see this Minecraft video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2-d5a3r94 |
| 18:11.18 | carmony | josephscott: whats great is that isn't only 18 pages long, but is -fuuuuullll- of good enough that is brief, and you can google more indept if you need more info on the subject |
| 18:11.52 | beandog | ~carmony++ |
| 18:11.55 | josephscott | carmony: did you read the thinking clearly about performance paper? |
| 18:12.04 | carmony | not yet |
| 18:12.11 | josephscott | only like 4 pages long, similar style, good, direct, clear thinking about performance |
| 18:12.27 | josephscott | http://josephscott.org/archives/2010/02/thinking-clearly-about-performance/ |
| 18:12.57 | beandog | carmony, man this is nice. |
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| 18:15.08 | josephscott | I like the check list at the end |
| 18:15.16 | mindjuju | @sunsparc, how do you build rollercoaster |
| 18:15.17 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmUO5YUPyI |
| 18:16.08 | mindjuju | all i saw was ability to punch the ground |
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| 18:17.43 | mindjuju | k, this one is awesome - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEH37vFbyo0 |
| 18:17.47 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Did you watch that video about the Star Trek Enterprise in Minecraft? |
| 18:17.54 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 18:17.56 | mindjuju | big |
| 18:18.39 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 18:18.39 | raifbot | When Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon, the first thing he saw was 'Chuck Norris was here' carved into a moon rock. |
| 18:18.44 | mindjuju | he should have spent his time making a lifesize beverly crusher |
| 18:18.54 | beandog | lol |
| 18:19.04 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:20.27 | SunSparc | heh |
| 18:22.14 | SunSparc | mindjuju: To help you better understand what the punching is about, watch the videos on this page, or at least the first one. |
| 18:22.15 | SunSparc | http://www.minecraft.net/help.jsp |
| 18:24.40 | beandog | we're going out to lunch today and we're going to eat indian food |
| 18:24.43 | beandog | I fully expect to die. |
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| 18:26.02 | josephscott | ~save beandog |
| 18:26.02 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves beandog from certain death. Is that enough? |
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| 18:59.02 | josephscott | wow http://devour.com/video/float-trailer/ |
| 19:06.30 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: that's really sweet! |
| 19:06.42 | josephscott | makes me want to build one |
| 19:07.00 | Utah_Dave | Except, I think you have to have a Russian or Ukranian accent |
| 19:26.07 | macnewbold | $8ball happy wednesday? |
| 19:26.07 | raifbot | macnewbold - As I see it, yes. |
| 19:26.37 | SunSparc | ~Wednesday |
| 19:26.37 | ibot | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 19:26.53 | SunSparc | Pessimist |
| 19:27.01 | josephscott | $8ball should ibot stop being such a pessimist ? |
| 19:27.01 | raifbot | josephscott - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 19:27.08 | josephscott | $8ball should member:ibot stop being such a pessimist ? |
| 19:27.09 | raifbot | josephscott - Very doubtful. |
| 19:27.23 | josephscott | $8ball should ibot stop being such a pessimist ? |
| 19:27.23 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes - definitely. |
| 19:27.53 | macnewbold | $ibot |
| 19:27.57 | macnewbold | ~raifbot |
| 19:28.14 | macnewbold | $chuck-fact |
| 19:28.14 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can win a game of Connect Four in only three moves. |
| 19:49.43 | mgeary | hey beandog |
| 19:49.55 | mgeary | got a sec for some ffmpeg support? |
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| 20:05.21 | mgeary | sho 'nuff |
| 20:08.44 | thebigdog | mgeary: sudo port selfupdate then you are good to go |
| 20:08.45 | thebigdog | ;) |
| 20:17.26 | ninnypants | $8ball do all salesmen think I'm a kid? |
| 20:17.26 | raifbot | ninnypants - Yes. |
| 20:17.40 | ninnypants | sweet! makes my life a lot easier |
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| 20:24.12 | beandog | mgeary, yah whats up |
| 20:30.45 | beandog | http://consumerist.com/2011/02/netflix-tops-customer-loyalty-list.html |
| 20:30.49 | beandog | netflix > apple |
| 20:30.49 | beandog | win |
| 20:30.58 | beandog | #3, walgreens, really? |
| 20:33.05 | mgeary | beandog: i'm getting "Option 'croptop' has been removed, use the crop filter instead" |
| 20:33.18 | mgeary | do you have a sample that demonstrates the use of the crop filter? |
| 20:33.37 | beandog | crop Crop the input video to width:height:x:y. |
| 20:33.40 | beandog | ffmpeg -filters |
| 20:34.10 | mgeary | but how do you actually *use* it? |
| 20:34.25 | beandog | Oh. Beats me. |
| 20:34.31 | mgeary | -vf crop=A:B:x:y ? |
| 20:34.47 | SunSparc | beandog: netflix on apple > netflix |
| 20:34.50 | beandog | All the crop options have been removed. Use -vf |
| 20:34.50 | beandog | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.38 | mgeary | okay, i'll mess around there |
| 20:36.46 | beandog | I'm on an old ffmpeg version |
| 20:36.52 | beandog | That may have changed. |
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| 20:43.18 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 20:43.18 | raifbot | stabs carmony. |
| 20:43.39 | carmony | I swear I'm weighted higher for larts |
| 20:43.48 | SunSparc | ~resurrect carmony |
| 20:43.48 | ibot | ACTION gathers all his magical powers (and some prayin'!) and resurrects carmony from the dead. |
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| 20:53.07 | mgeary | beandog: do you know how to effectively chain filters together? I want to crop and then scale a movie. i've got this: ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -ss 4 -ar 22050 -vf crop=885:663:53:53 -vf scale=500x378 cropped.flv |
| 20:53.19 | beandog | mgeary, commas |
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| 20:54.04 | beandog | -vf crop=foo,scale=bar |
| 20:54.05 | beandog | should work |
| 20:54.15 | mgeary | thanks. trying that now |
| 20:56.20 | beandog | thats how mplayer works, anyway |
| 20:56.31 | herlo | mindjuju2: ping |
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| 21:07.53 | mgeary | beandog: do you have any idea how to replace the first N seconds of a the video portion of a movie with an arbitrary graphic using ffmpeg? |
| 21:08.09 | beandog | mgeary, It's a pain. |
| 21:08.13 | beandog | mgeary, I usually use avidemux |
| 21:24.04 | beandog | http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-close-your-linkedin-account-2011-2?slop=1 |
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| 21:32.19 | beandog | how do I get a job dispensing cold oatmeal all day |
| 21:32.44 | josephscott | beandog: not liking linkedin any more? |
| 21:32.57 | beandog | josephscott, I dont really have anything against it. I dont really think its useful, tho. |
| 21:33.04 | josephscott | and did you post something about switching jobs? where are you at now? |
| 21:33.20 | beandog | josephscott, I'm still at my old place. We havent figured out when I'm quitting yet. Heh. |
| 21:33.33 | josephscott | quitting by committee ? |
| 21:33.45 | beandog | Well more like, quitting when i'm finished with the work they keep giving me. |
| 21:33.59 | beandog | The other job doesnt have a strict timeline, so it's all okay. |
| 21:34.14 | beandog | I could start tomm. or next month and it'd be fine. |
| 21:34.33 | beandog | so, yah. |
| 21:36.01 | josephscott | nice |
| 21:36.36 | beandog | basically nobody cares if I work for them or not. |
| 21:36.40 | beandog | heh |
| 21:42.35 | herlo | odd... |
| 22:07.59 | macnewbold | beandog: they're just willing to wait in line for you if that's what they have to do |
| 22:09.58 | carmony | lol, so, all of our thumbnails for our image iphone app were saved w/ 100 jpeg quality |
| 22:10.09 | josephscott | $8ball will the committee ever agree on when beandog will quit? |
| 22:10.09 | raifbot | josephscott - Most likely. |
| 22:10.22 | josephscott | carmony: only the best for your users :-) |
| 22:10.27 | carmony | lol |
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| 22:10.40 | carmony | well, the avg file size of a thumbnail was 20k |
| 22:10.47 | carmony | which on a mobile phone, sucks |
| 22:11.07 | carmony | so I've gotten about 4-7k each, look pretty good still, and should help cut bandwidth costs |
| 22:11.10 | josephscott | not using pngs? |
| 22:11.22 | josephscott | down from that 8TB :-) |
| 22:11.31 | carmony | lol, yeah |
| 22:12.08 | carmony | my boss was fine with the cost for last month, since we're selling a LOT more, so we can more than justify the costs, just want to see if there were any optimizations we could make |
| 22:12.12 | thebigdog | carmony what you should look at is getting the images close to your block size on the drives then you dont waste overhead |
| 22:12.31 | carmony | thebigdog: we serve them from Rackspace Cloud CDN |
| 22:12.35 | josephscott | thebigdog: I think bandwidth is a much bigger cost |
| 22:12.43 | carmony | it was the 8.4 TB of bandwidth transfer that was $$$ |
| 22:13.01 | thebigdog | yeah if you dont care about disk space then no worries |
| 22:13.47 | thebigdog | i was thinking of 8.4tb of disk space |
| 22:13.48 | josephscott | carmony: have you tried http://developer.yahoo.com/yslow/smushit/ for reducing the image size? |
| 22:14.14 | josephscott | I ran tests quite awhile back, smushit was the most aggressive in making optimizations and reducing the image size |
| 22:14.33 | carmony | huh, interesting |
| 22:14.38 | carmony | we're using imagemagick right now |
| 22:14.41 | macnewbold | smush? makes me think of this bizarre music video some of the guys were watching the other day |
| 22:15.03 | macnewbold | think it is some kind of parody, at least i hope |
| 22:15.27 | macnewbold | i think it was called "smang it" (from "you smash it and you bang it, you smang it") |
| 22:15.32 | josephscott | we do various image optimizations on wordpress.com, but they don't do as much as smushit |
| 22:17.41 | carmony | you know what would be cool is if with the CDN if the file didn't exist, it would redirect to a new URL |
| 22:18.11 | josephscott | traditional CDNs will do that |
| 22:18.22 | carmony | I know, but still, it would be cool |
| 22:18.24 | josephscott | basically a reverse proxy |
| 22:18.39 | josephscott | and if you built your own image servers you could do that :-) |
| 22:18.55 | carmony | lol, true, but I Don't want to make my own edge servers |
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| 22:20.18 | carmony | you could also do something like putting a nginx instance infront of the CND, but that would get rid of the whole CDN distribution |
| 22:24.48 | mgeary | romanovic: ping |
| 22:26.19 | josephscott | true that, need to figure out which trade offs (including cost) you want to make |
| 22:27.08 | mindjuju | attempting p2v conversion of server |
| 22:33.02 | macnewbold | ~p2v |
| 22:33.08 | macnewbold | ~jargon p2v |
| 22:33.11 | mgeary | ~google p2v |
| 22:33.13 | macnewbold | ~google p2v conversion |
| 22:33.18 | macnewbold | ~jinx |
| 22:33.23 | mgeary | 12345678910 |
| 22:33.26 | stderr | this pleases me: https://github.com/github/gitignore |
| 22:33.30 | mindjuju | physical to virtual |
| 22:35.10 | josephscott | $google p2v |
| 22:35.10 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=p2v -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical-to-Virtual -- http://p2v.org/ -- http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/ |
| 22:36.21 | orsonj | cool, the smushit people explain what they use to do their thing! |
| 22:36.55 | orsonj | http://developer.yahoo.com/yslow/smushit/faq.html |
| 22:37.06 | mgeary | what's a Smu, and why are you referencing it's ... oh. |
| 22:38.33 | mgeary | i crack myself up |
| 22:38.45 | DexterTheDragon | ~crack mgeary |
| 22:38.45 | ibot | ACTION cracks mgeary 's rock in half and then proceeds to shatter the halves into tiny pieces |
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| 22:40.20 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 22:40.21 | raifbot | installs PocketPC on unum's PDA. |
| 22:48.50 | unum | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh |
| 22:48.53 | unum | bad raifbot |
| 22:48.54 | unum | bad |
| 22:49.08 | unum | that's a little dated.... |
| 22:50.00 | josephscott | I take new lart text, easy to update the list :-) |
| 22:53.02 | josephscott | for the django users in the house - http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2011/feb/08/security/ |
| 22:53.35 | macnewbold | i had a buddy who for the longest time, even when PDAs were popular, couldn't help but think of "push down automaton" first when someone said pda |
| 22:53.47 | macnewbold | most normal people i know thought "public display of affection" first |
| 22:54.00 | macnewbold | the hazards of acronym overloading... |
| 23:08.38 | undertakingyou | is this valid syntax: if ($variable == ("value" || "Value")) { //action } ? |
| 23:09.43 | thebigdog | undertakingyou: if(strcasecmp($str1,$str2)==0) |
| 23:09.47 | thebigdog | that might be what you want |
| 23:10.09 | thebigdog | where $str2 = "value" |
| 23:10.18 | thebigdog | $str1 is your variable |
| 23:13.23 | undertakingyou | thebigdog: awesome. That will be good. I didn't want to have all these big OR statements. |
| 23:13.27 | undertakingyou | Thanks |
| 23:15.13 | SunSparc | undertakingyou: You can you use the small "or" also. "OR" and "or" are the same. |
| 23:16.42 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 23:16.42 | raifbot | Chuck Norris does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. Chuck Norris goes killing. |
| 23:20.50 | macnewbold | i don't go hunting, cause that infers the possibility of success - i go wandering through the woods, usually in the snow, carrying a loaded firearm that only gets fired at the gun range |
| 23:21.51 | josephscott | :-) |
| 23:23.35 | undertakingyou | :) |
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| 23:48.59 | beandog | mindjuju is never around when you need him |
| 23:49.31 | josephscott | $8ball can you summon mindjuju for us? |
| 23:49.31 | raifbot | josephscott - My sources say no. |
| 23:56.28 | orsonj | That eightball has a much higher accuracy ratio than normal ones. |