| 00:01.04 | influx | ararara |
| 00:01.22 | influx | $8ball rice with soy sauce? |
| 00:01.22 | raifbot | influx - Signs point to yes. |
| 00:01.27 | influx | yeeeeah. |
| 00:04.00 | TuxToaster | $8ball *now* can Monday be over? |
| 00:04.00 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Outlook good. |
| 00:04.09 | TuxToaster | hmm. not very convincing. |
| 00:04.44 | TuxToaster | $8ball I was hoping for a "yes" or a "definitely" |
| 00:04.44 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Ask again later. |
| 00:04.45 | orsonj | never believe someone who says outlook is good |
| 00:04.48 | TuxToaster | doh |
| 00:05.00 | TuxToaster | ~orsonj++ |
| 00:05.05 | TuxToaster | so true |
| 00:06.43 | influx | $8ball torture TuxToaster some more? |
| 00:06.43 | raifbot | influx - Without a doubt. |
| 00:07.23 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 00:07.48 | stderr | $8ball Should I grill tonight due to the relatively lovely weather? |
| 00:07.48 | raifbot | stderr - Most likely. |
| 00:07.54 | stderr | roger that |
| 00:09.51 | josephscott | amazing what 20 random strings can do :-) |
| 00:10.18 | TuxToaster | $8ball are the strings *really* random? |
| 00:10.18 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Without a doubt. |
| 00:10.20 | fatal3rr | so I have this at the end of code now, I'm assuming the redirect is taking over |
| 00:10.22 | fatal3rr | echo "<script>alert(\"The two password did not match.\");</script>"; |
| 00:10.31 | TuxToaster | gah! he's brainwashed! :P |
| 00:10.56 | fatal3rr | err...hold on thats not right |
| 00:10.57 | fatal3rr | lol |
| 00:11.12 | TuxToaster | fatal3rr: was just wondering how that was supposed to work |
| 00:11.13 | TuxToaster | hehe |
| 00:11.24 | fatal3rr | http://pastie.org/1494534 |
| 00:11.52 | TuxToaster | ok. your best bet if you want to redirect is to just do the header |
| 00:12.08 | fatal3rr | so basically, if I put that echo line in a php file on its own, it will spit out a message box saying what I want |
| 00:12.21 | fatal3rr | but when I put it into my code right before my redirect, it does nothing |
| 00:12.22 | TuxToaster | if you really want it to pop up and say it was created first, then instead of using a header, you'd want to do the redirect with javascript |
| 00:12.52 | fatal3rr | ah |
| 00:12.58 | TuxToaster | yeah, the redirect causes the browser to just change pages. |
| 00:13.20 | fatal3rr | Yea, I'd like it to just take it to a page saying it was created, which works fine so long as I have a php file it redirects to |
| 00:13.24 | TuxToaster | try document.location.href = 'http://drupal.panopto.com/?q=user'; |
| 00:13.29 | TuxToaster | after you do the alert |
| 00:13.31 | fatal3rr | when I try it within my stupid content management system it fails |
| 00:14.05 | josephscott | fatal3rr: headers need to be output first |
| 00:14.05 | fatal3rr | because the way the cms works is already using ? to pass things |
| 00:15.18 | TuxToaster | fatal3rr: well, you could add the message on the end of the URL with another parameter, but I think just using JavaScript to handle it would work just the same |
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| 00:15.25 | TuxToaster | instead of doing the redirect with header() |
| 00:15.35 | TuxToaster | echo "<script>alert(\"Ticket #$ticket_id has been created.\"); document.location.href = 'http://drupal.panopto.com/?q=user'; </script>"; |
| 00:15.47 | TuxToaster | which would show the alert, then change pages. |
| 00:15.57 | fatal3rr | ok |
| 00:16.22 | fatal3rr | gotcha |
| 00:16.24 | TuxToaster | josephscott: I've actually noticed some behavior change there. |
| 00:16.43 | josephscott | in regards to what? |
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| 00:16.59 | TuxToaster | seems like recent versions of PHP will still redirect even if you print out text before the header, where it used to (if I'm not mistaken) warn you that content was already started |
| 00:17.14 | josephscott | probably have output buffering turned out |
| 00:17.15 | josephscott | on |
| 00:17.20 | josephscott | think about how HTTP works |
| 00:17.27 | josephscott | first the headers are sent |
| 00:17.27 | TuxToaster | or did it always do that with prints/echos and only warn you on content outside of <?php ?> blocks ? |
| 00:17.31 | josephscott | then the body of the response |
| 00:17.35 | TuxToaster | right |
| 00:17.51 | josephscott | so when a browser sees a redirect, it is free to ignore the body of the response |
| 00:18.17 | fatal3rr | alright, thats good enough for me |
| 00:18.22 | TuxToaster | I've just noticed with some code we've worked on recently that if someone has a header location redirect in place, that still happens even if something gets printed out |
| 00:18.38 | TuxToaster | thought it used to throw errors over that. |
| 00:18.45 | josephscott | TuxToaster: right, you can make that happen with output buffering and the like |
| 00:18.46 | TuxToaster | fatal3rr: sweet |
| 00:18.59 | josephscott | just don't expect a browser to actually display the output before doing the redirect |
| 00:19.04 | fatal3rr | Oh yes, very sweet, only took me all day |
| 00:19.05 | fatal3rr | lol |
| 00:19.17 | TuxToaster | josephscott: hmm. probably... I used to do quite a bit with buffering when I did notice that behavior |
| 00:20.00 | TuxToaster | and yeah, I definitely don't expect it, I just noticed a change in how it acted when I'd be trying to print something out for testing and would have to dig for the header that was causing the redirect |
| 00:20.30 | TuxToaster | fatal3rr: true, but at least it works now, and now you know more about it than you did yesterday. |
| 00:20.40 | TuxToaster | whether you wanted to or not :P |
| 00:21.43 | fatal3rr | very true, I know a hell of a lot more about it now |
| 00:21.49 | fatal3rr | learning is always good |
| 00:22.04 | TuxToaster | yup |
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| 00:22.31 | fatal3rr | Now to try and pull some data with that API |
| 00:22.39 | fatal3rr | should be super easy now that I know how the damn thing works |
| 00:23.01 | fatal3rr | I will certainly have some suggestions for the after this is all said and done |
| 00:24.22 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 00:24.26 | josephscott | $8ball looking forward to dinner tonight? |
| 00:24.26 | raifbot | josephscott - My reply is no. |
| 00:24.32 | TuxToaster | looked like most of the reads were much simpler |
| 00:24.40 | josephscott | then you should come over to my house, wife makes awesome dinner :-) |
| 00:24.43 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 00:24.51 | fatal3rr | haha |
| 00:27.18 | josephscott | $8ball feeling any better about Mondays yet? |
| 00:27.18 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes. |
| 00:27.37 | josephscott | $8ball is that because it is almost over? |
| 00:27.37 | raifbot | josephscott - Without a doubt. |
| 00:28.22 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 00:28.24 | ninnypants | heh |
| 00:28.33 | ninnypants | the best part of monday is the end :) |
| 00:28.58 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: it's 5:30 now :P |
| 00:29.03 | TuxToaster | or, at least close hehe |
| 00:29.28 | TuxToaster | josephscott: now instead of "blame Canada" it can be "blame the 8ball" |
| 00:31.19 | macnewbold | $8ball can i go now? |
| 00:31.19 | raifbot | macnewbold - You may rely on it. |
| 00:31.24 | macnewbold | finally |
| 00:31.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 00:31.33 | TuxToaster | classic. |
| 00:31.38 | macnewbold | crazy |
| 00:31.47 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
| 00:31.52 | influx | $8ball should I kill one of the players' characters tonight? |
| 00:31.52 | raifbot | influx - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 00:32.07 | influx | $8ball Should I kill off one of the characters playing in my D&D campaign tonight? |
| 00:32.07 | raifbot | influx - Outlook good. |
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| 01:47.54 | supernovia | $8ball am I a nutter? |
| 01:47.55 | raifbot | supernovia - Signs point to yes. |
| 01:48.07 | jsmith | supernovia: Don't believe it -- it's a trap! |
| 01:48.08 | supernovia | OK, that's what I figured. |
| 01:48.21 | supernovia | hehe |
| 01:48.44 | jsmith | :-) |
| 01:48.49 | supernovia | how's it there? |
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| 01:57.06 | TuxToaster | lol @ nutter |
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| 02:46.52 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 02:46.52 | raifbot | Darth Vader dresses up as Chuck Norris for Halloween. |
| 03:01.27 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 03:01.27 | raifbot | Chuck Norris once broke the land speed record on a bicycle that was missing its chain and the back tire. |
| 03:03.30 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 03:50.28 | josephscott | $8ball feeling better about Mondays? |
| 03:50.28 | raifbot | josephscott - My sources say no. |
| 04:10.27 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:44.31 | ninnypants | $lart HTML mail |
| 04:44.31 | raifbot | takes HTML mail to the vet for a "special" visit. |
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| 06:10.43 | herlo | carmony: ping |
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| 07:17.33 | josephscott | carmony: are you replicating your redis data? |
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| 15:21.25 | carmony | herlo: pong |
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| 15:55.49 | mindjuju | so ps aux | grep dovecot will list any processes that start with the phrase dovecot, right? |
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| 16:01.54 | cro | mindjuju: it will list any processes with names that contain 'dovecot' |
| 16:02.17 | cro | if you want to restrict it to names that start with 'dovecot' use |
| 16:02.24 | cro | ps aux | grep ^dovecot |
| 16:02.30 | mindjuju | ah |
| 16:02.40 | mindjuju | thx cro |
| 16:02.43 | mindjuju | how you been? |
| 16:02.48 | cro | great, thanks! |
| 16:02.50 | cro | you? |
| 16:02.58 | mindjuju | not too bad |
| 16:05.10 | ninnypants | mindjuju: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20029302-501465.html |
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| 16:07.13 | influx | On the bright side, Lieberman might not run for re-election. |
| 16:07.21 | influx | Somewhat bright anyway. |
| 16:08.47 | ninnypants | yeah that's a little brighter |
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| 16:09.21 | mindjuju | that's nuts |
| 16:10.33 | ninnypants | I didn't know about this part though: |
| 16:10.34 | ninnypants | For their part, Lieberman and Collins say the president already has "nearly unchecked authority" to control Internet companies. A 1934 law (PDF) creating the Federal Communications Commission says that in wartime, or if a "state of public peril or disaster or other national emergency" exists, the president may "authorize the use or control of any...station or device." |
| 16:10.55 | influx | Great. |
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| 16:11.05 | influx | welcome, carmony |
| 16:11.25 | mindjuju | curious, then why the bill? |
| 16:11.38 | ninnypants | not sure |
| 16:12.00 | ninnypants | politicions seem to double legislate everything |
| 16:12.41 | mindjuju | OUCH! |
| 16:12.42 | mindjuju | YIPES! |
| 16:12.53 | mindjuju | The revised version includes new language saying that the federal government's designation of vital Internet or other computer systems "shall not be subject to judicial review." |
| 16:13.02 | influx | ... |
| 16:13.11 | mindjuju | yeah, amazing |
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| 16:15.55 | ninnypants | yep figured that would be the first thing you'd notice mindjuju |
| 16:16.35 | carmony | hola |
| 16:16.59 | carmony | man, the day of the big snow storm I have to go into work because my house didn't have power |
| 16:17.11 | ninnypants | carmony: snowstorm? |
| 16:17.22 | eggyknap | While I'm not terribly interested in an internet kill switch, having the gov't show some interest in protecting critical internet infrastructure isn't wholly unwelcome. |
| 16:17.30 | carmony | yeah, its snowing in ogden |
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| 16:19.25 | ninnypants | yeah it's good that they're worried about that but what happens to businesses if the shut every network in the country down? |
| 16:20.55 | eggyknap | The theory (as distinct from actual practice) is that they do it when, for instance, the Chinese or Russians bring out their cyber attack folks, which would shut down the businesses much more permanently. |
| 16:22.51 | mindjuju | i think thats a good thing to protect from eggyknap, i'm just not sold that that is what the bill is resolving |
| 16:23.01 | eggyknap | Nor am I :) |
| 16:23.10 | mindjuju | I will disclose upfront, though, that I am an avid xfiles watcher |
| 16:23.33 | ninnypants | yeah it doesn't even state what a cyber emergency is in the bill |
| 16:23.49 | mindjuju | :) , which means i'm paranoid and skeptical |
| 16:24.34 | mindjuju | this whole thing about no judicial review, i'm going to have to read more about that to comment |
| 16:24.37 | mindjuju | that's worrisome |
| 16:43.10 | herlo | carmony: nw, figured it out |
| 16:43.30 | carmony | ok |
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| 16:48.35 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
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| 17:20.23 | SunSparc | wps: What if you drop the ! altogether and just going with something like: |
| 17:20.25 | SunSparc | ^/banana/boat |
| 17:20.26 | SunSparc | OR |
| 17:20.31 | SunSparc | ^(/banana/boat) |
| 17:20.48 | wps | I want URLs that don't match that though |
| 17:20.57 | SunSparc | I know :) |
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| 17:29.20 | thebigdog | wps: check my email see if that works for you |
| 17:30.08 | thebigdog | that is a perl cre though so i cant remember if apache supports that or not |
| 17:30.11 | wps | thanks, thebigdog :) |
| 17:30.21 | wps | doesn't & just suppress the error? |
| 17:30.38 | thebigdog | on a method call |
| 17:32.29 | thebigdog | wps if that regex does not work, let me see another way |
| 17:32.42 | wps | k |
| 17:33.01 | SunSparc | wps: try losing the space between "URI} !^/b" |
| 17:33.49 | wps | internal server error |
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| 17:37.52 | mgeary | hey fungus, got a minute to help me with a networking problem? |
| 17:40.00 | fungus | yeah, i do |
| 17:41.16 | mgeary | so, Qwest sent us a new DSL router, and i've got it up and working |
| 17:41.48 | mgeary | but we're experiencing something strange. We have a block of static IPs, and http requests to them are failing from inside the office |
| 17:41.51 | thebigdog | wps: !^/banana/boat/$ does that work? |
| 17:41.54 | mgeary | e.g. www.treelinegroup.com |
| 17:42.30 | fungus | Is the router configured to use the static block? |
| 17:42.40 | fungus | It takes some special stuff to make it work like that. |
| 17:43.30 | fungus | Do you have a separate router or firewall between inside office and the DSL router? |
| 17:46.24 | mgeary | no |
| 17:46.37 | mgeary | that is, no separate router |
| 17:46.51 | mgeary | yes, it *says* it's configured for the static block |
| 17:47.49 | SunSparc | wps: Put negation aside for a moment and try to match /banana/boat in the URI. |
| 17:48.52 | fungus | Is it in VIP mode? |
| 17:49.40 | mgeary | how do i find out? i don't know what that is |
| 17:49.45 | mgeary | it's an Actiontec M1000 |
| 17:50.02 | fungus | Right, that setting is on the same page as the static block setup |
| 17:50.23 | mgeary | no, it's not |
| 17:50.27 | fungus | VIP mode means both the internal network and the public network are accessible on the private side |
| 17:50.35 | mgeary | aha |
| 17:50.40 | mgeary | so, check it |
| 17:50.43 | fungus | What IP is assigned to the LAN interface ? |
| 17:50.45 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: your going to anger josephscott by turning gzip off |
| 17:51.00 | fungus | a private one? |
| 17:51.00 | fatal3rr | Quick question. Warning: curl_setopt() expects parameter 2 to be long, string given in C:\wamp\www\includes\common.inc(1696) : eval()'d code on line 11. |
| 17:51.09 | fatal3rr | It's set how i want it |
| 17:51.10 | josephscott | :-) |
| 17:51.13 | fatal3rr | why is it spitting out warnings |
| 17:51.16 | fatal3rr | it's running fine |
| 17:51.38 | fatal3rr | I can just turn off error reporting to the screen but I'd like to clean up my code if it's some fault of mine |
| 17:52.59 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: lol, I know, I know |
| 17:53.01 | carmony | it was a hack |
| 17:53.08 | carmony | but closest distance for a quick fix |
| 17:54.08 | fatal3rr | $8ball Should I just turn off error reporting? |
| 17:54.09 | raifbot | fatal3rr - It is certain. |
| 17:54.13 | fatal3rr | Ok |
| 17:54.56 | wps | SunSparc: yes, it matches when the negate is not used |
| 17:55.38 | SunSparc | wps: When the negate is not used and /banana/boat is in the URI? |
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| 18:11.06 | herlo | SunSparc: but not when /banana/hammock is in the URI, right? |
| 18:12.13 | SunSparc | herlo: Exactly |
| 18:12.14 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:13.43 | DexterTheDragon | what about /banana/split ? |
| 18:13.58 | DexterTheDragon | or /banana/republic ? |
| 18:15.31 | herlo | exactly! so many references! |
| 18:15.42 | herlo | how *ever* will you decide! |
| 18:23.34 | SunSparc | wps: I think they have a point |
| 18:25.08 | mgeary | fungus: sorry, was in a meeting |
| 18:32.44 | mgeary | fungus: so you want the internal IP of the router? or the gateway IP, or..? |
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| 18:41.25 | TuxToaster | $8ball do you still like Tuesdays? |
| 18:41.25 | raifbot | TuxToaster - You may rely on it. |
| 18:41.40 | TuxToaster | $8ball how about Mondays? |
| 18:41.40 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 18:41.44 | TuxToaster | ha. |
| 18:42.05 | fatal3rr | Whats goin on tux |
| 18:42.32 | TuxToaster | the usual :-) |
| 18:42.52 | fatal3rr | sounds wildly exciting |
| 18:43.00 | TuxToaster | oh yeah, it's a hoot. :P |
| 18:44.14 | ninnypants | $8ball are mondays terrible? |
| 18:44.14 | raifbot | ninnypants - Yes. |
| 18:44.20 | ninnypants | heh |
| 18:44.35 | ninnypants | raifbot really hates mondays |
| 18:44.49 | fatal3rr | <fatal3rr> $8ball Should I just turn off error reporting? |
| 18:44.49 | fatal3rr | <raifbot> fatal3rr - It is certain. |
| 18:44.50 | fatal3rr | <fatal3rr> Ok |
| 18:45.16 | fatal3rr | Sound advice |
| 18:45.21 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:45.50 | TuxToaster | on a production environment it's usually good to turn off reporting |
| 18:46.25 | fatal3rr | I was just trying to clean up my code a bit and have it warning free |
| 18:46.34 | TuxToaster | I use error handling classes that send me e-mails when errors are encountered, which covers most anything outside of syntax / parsing problems |
| 18:46.38 | fatal3rr | until 8 ball told me to just say screw it and turn it off |
| 18:46.40 | fatal3rr | :) |
| 18:46.42 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:47.41 | josephscott | $8ball are you any good at code recommendations? |
| 18:47.42 | raifbot | josephscott - Better not tell you now. |
| 18:47.50 | josephscott | $8ball are you any good at code recommendations? |
| 18:47.50 | raifbot | josephscott - As I see it, yes. |
| 18:48.00 | supernovia | Well then. |
| 18:48.10 | josephscott | yeah, don't trust $8ball for coding help :-) |
| 18:48.31 | josephscott | $php curl_setopt |
| 18:48.33 | raifbot | josephscott - bool curl_setopt ( resource $ch , int $option , mixed $value ) |
| 18:49.12 | TuxToaster | josephscott: is that hitting php.net? |
| 18:49.40 | josephscott | yes |
| 18:49.46 | josephscott | $php curl_setopt |
| 18:49.46 | raifbot | josephscott -* bool curl_setopt ( resource $ch , int $option , mixed $value ) |
| 18:49.51 | TuxToaster | cool |
| 18:49.52 | josephscott | with caching :-) |
| 18:50.15 | TuxToaster | of course :-) |
| 18:50.24 | TuxToaster | $php some_func_that_doesnt_exist |
| 18:50.26 | raifbot | TuxToaster - sorry, I couldn't info about PHP's some_func_that_doesnt_exist function |
| 18:50.32 | TuxToaster | very nice. |
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| 19:09.12 | mgeary | bah |
| 19:09.49 | mgeary | Xmission support guy says he doesn't think our new router can do what we need it to. I don't think he's right |
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| 19:14.09 | SunSparc | So you think he is left? I am not sure what that has to do with it. |
| 19:14.30 | mgeary | i think he just wanted me to go away |
| 19:14.40 | SunSparc | That could be. |
| 19:14.44 | mgeary | so i did. i'll wait and see when/if fungus has any more tips/suggestions for me |
| 19:28.13 | fatal3rr | Ohhh yeaaaa |
| 19:28.14 | thebigdog | mgeary get you a zoom router and you can do it |
| 19:28.19 | thebigdog | that is what i do |
| 19:28.30 | fatal3rr | eating API's for breakfast |
| 19:29.21 | mgeary | thebigdog: we're moving in about a month and won't have DSL after that, so i don't want to waste $ |
| 19:30.21 | thebigdog | mgeary: hehe |
| 19:30.43 | thebigdog | mgeary: what dsl router do you have? |
| 19:30.54 | mgeary | Actiontec M1000. Qwest sent it to us |
| 19:30.57 | thebigdog | my zoom is the best one i have ever purchased for cheap |
| 19:31.01 | mgeary | we used to have a Cisco 678, and it did what we needed |
| 19:46.20 | mgeary | hey, does anyone know how to best get a spamming server added to one of the common RBLs? |
| 19:46.48 | thebigdog | add it to your own first |
| 19:46.52 | thebigdog | and then submit to others |
| 19:47.14 | mgeary | how do i add it to my own? |
| 19:47.37 | thebigdog | mgeary google hehe |
| 19:47.51 | thebigdog | add it to amavisd |
| 19:49.09 | thebigdog | or you can do it in SA |
| 19:49.17 | thebigdog | or postfix |
| 19:51.29 | thebigdog | amavisd.conf -> @blacklist_sender_maps = (['.example.org', '.example.net']); |
| 19:51.38 | thebigdog | there is a simple way or you can use a hash file and read it in |
| 19:52.05 | thebigdog | so there are a couple options mgeary |
| 19:52.15 | thebigdog | you can do it at various points in the process |
| 19:52.51 | thebigdog | here is a way to do it in SA http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.1.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#whitelist_and_blacklist_options |
| 19:53.19 | mgeary | thanks |
| 19:53.41 | thebigdog | np |
| 19:53.48 | thebigdog | msg me is you have issues |
| 19:54.07 | thebigdog | then just reload the config and you should be good |
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| 19:59.57 | josephscott | loving strace this morning |
| 20:00.22 | josephscott | for debugging socket communications |
| 20:02.51 | thebigdog | today is another day that "I Can't Fix Stupid" |
| 20:10.44 | ninnypants | thebigdog: can anyone fix stupid? |
| 20:11.35 | thebigdog | i fill like i have been trying all week |
| 20:11.45 | SunSparc | Darwin can fix stupid. ;) |
| 20:11.51 | thebigdog | but it is not happening |
| 20:12.47 | ninnypants | SunSparc: sure is taking him a long time ;p |
| 20:13.30 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 20:20.48 | wTrevyn | I could use help with a MySQL REGEXP |
| 20:20.52 | wTrevyn | if anyone has minute |
| 20:22.34 | wTrevyn | I have a table with various phone number styles |
| 20:22.38 | wTrevyn | 1-801 |
| 20:22.42 | wTrevyn | 1(801) |
| 20:22.44 | wTrevyn | 1-801 |
| 20:22.47 | wTrevyn | 801 |
| 20:22.51 | wTrevyn | 1 801 |
| 20:22.57 | wTrevyn | 1 (801) |
| 20:22.59 | wTrevyn | ect |
| 20:23.14 | wTrevyn | I want to to find all phone numbers with a specific area code. |
| 20:23.15 | TuxToaster | ok |
| 20:23.24 | wTrevyn | preferably using SQL |
| 20:23.48 | TuxToaster | but no guarantee that there is or is not a 1- in front of the number? |
| 20:24.30 | wTrevyn | TuxToaster: right |
| 20:24.40 | wTrevyn | I wonder if MySQL REGEX can do if FIRST_5_OF(phone_work) %LIKE% '801' |
| 20:24.43 | wTrevyn | or something |
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| 20:25.07 | TuxToaster | well, you could do that without regex |
| 20:26.01 | TuxToaster | WHERE LEFT(phone_work, 5) LIKE '%801%' would work |
| 20:26.09 | TuxToaster | but would be potentially problematic |
| 20:26.33 | wTrevyn | WHERE LEFT(phone_work, 5) LIKE '%801%' would work |
| 20:26.35 | wTrevyn | that looks good |
| 20:26.40 | ninnypants | wTrevyn: I would suggest normalizing your data too |
| 20:26.42 | TuxToaster | because if my number is 8016139999 then the area code could match on 801, 016, and 161 |
| 20:27.04 | wTrevyn | ninnypants: TuxToaster I see |
| 20:27.14 | TuxToaster | and if it's put in as 18016139999 then 180, 801, 016 :P |
| 20:27.44 | wTrevyn | the project allows the client to upload CSV data |
| 20:27.46 | TuxToaster | so the ideal situation would be to normalize so that everything in that column is guaranteed to be in the correct format |
| 20:27.50 | wTrevyn | to populate the numbers |
| 20:27.54 | ninnypants | wouldn't quite match those cause no us areacode starts with 0 or 1 |
| 20:28.11 | wTrevyn | hmmm |
| 20:28.14 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: true, but it's the concept I'm going for, not so much the example, lol |
| 20:28.18 | wTrevyn | I think I can use WHERE LEFT(phone_work, 5) LIKE '%801%' would work |
| 20:28.29 | ninnypants | yeah was just about to say that :) |
| 20:28.41 | wTrevyn | for now, and notify the client the potential issues if non normalized CSVs are uploaded |
| 20:29.09 | wTrevyn | also, he should be able to use excel or something to normalize :) |
| 20:29.11 | ninnypants | you could always normalize the csv |
| 20:29.13 | brasto | ~rlart |
| 20:29.13 | ibot | moos at eggyknap |
| 20:29.14 | TuxToaster | you could do a couple of regexes to strip out the non-numeric characters tand then match that way |
| 20:29.17 | ninnypants | for them |
| 20:29.34 | wTrevyn | TuxToaster: if I could do it in mysql I would |
| 20:29.40 | wTrevyn | I am a little concerned about speed |
| 20:29.47 | TuxToaster | wTrevyn: I'd suggest doing some normalizing as you store it if you could |
| 20:29.48 | wTrevyn | considering he has 1million + rows |
| 20:30.01 | wTrevyn | TuxToaster: ninnypants thanks |
| 20:30.07 | wTrevyn | Ill make some changes. |
| 20:30.13 | brasto | ~rlart |
| 20:30.14 | ibot | holds optikal to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 20:30.56 | TuxToaster | $lart brasto |
| 20:30.56 | raifbot | moos at brasto. |
| 20:31.06 | brasto | lol |
| 20:31.12 | ninnypants | wTrevyn: I would really suggest normalizing before you put it in if you're querying that many rows |
| 20:31.28 | brasto | hey, there's another bot in here. Cool |
| 20:31.32 | brasto | $rlart |
| 20:31.33 | raifbot | turns josephscott into a lifesized tux doll. |
| 20:31.37 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:31.44 | TuxToaster | nice one raifbot |
| 20:31.48 | josephscott | $lart brasto |
| 20:31.48 | raifbot | whacks brasto with the cluebat. |
| 20:32.00 | brasto | is it another infobot/blootbot? |
| 20:32.11 | TuxToaster | nope |
| 20:32.15 | brasto | $cluebat |
| 20:32.17 | ninnypants | surprized josephscott didn't build a safeguard for himself in. |
| 20:32.31 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: where would the fun in that be? |
| 20:32.31 | josephscott | $8ball should I protect myself from $lart? |
| 20:32.31 | raifbot | josephscott - It is decidedly so. |
| 20:32.33 | brasto | ~cluebat |
| 20:32.33 | ibot | *WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK* |
| 20:32.36 | TuxToaster | (and ddon't give him ideas) |
| 20:32.48 | TuxToaster | $8ball were you lying to josephscott? |
| 20:32.48 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Outlook not so good. |
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| 20:33.05 | TuxToaster | $8ball I know Outlook isn't good, but were you lying to josephscott? |
| 20:33.05 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Ask again later. |
| 20:33.15 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you being stubborn again? |
| 20:33.15 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 20:33.23 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you being stubborn again? |
| 20:33.24 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Without a doubt. |
| 20:33.34 | brasto | lol |
| 20:33.34 | josephscott | $8ball is Tuesday better than Monday? |
| 20:33.35 | raifbot | josephscott - Ask again later. |
| 20:33.42 | mgeary | $waffle raifbot |
| 20:33.44 | TuxToaster | as if we needed any proof that the bot has a brain. |
| 20:33.46 | mgeary | ~waffle raifbot |
| 20:33.52 | josephscott | $8ball is Tuesday better than Monday? |
| 20:33.52 | raifbot | josephscott - My reply is no. |
| 20:34.07 | brasto | haha, that's funny. Okay, I'm back to my readings. |
| 20:34.34 | ninnypants | heh $8ball liked tuesdays earlier |
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| 20:41.30 | carmony | hrm |
| 20:41.33 | carmony | I wonder how good this will work |
| 20:41.34 | carmony | http://aws.amazon.com/ses/?ref_=pe_12300_18476200 |
| 20:42.03 | ninnypants | I love it when a application gives you a pop up that says "Error" and nothing more. |
| 20:42.36 | SunSparc | ninnypants: So helpful |
| 20:42.50 | SunSparc | carmony: I wonder how it will compare to Google Apps email. |
| 20:43.06 | carmony | well, I think this is purely for sending email |
| 20:43.22 | TuxToaster | wTrevyn: for what it's worth, I just tried a bit of your dillema on a test db |
| 20:43.33 | ninnypants | especially with how long they took to recreate ever aspect of web forms and alertboxes in Java |
| 20:43.36 | SunSparc | Ah, for web sites and announce only mailing lists? |
| 20:43.53 | carmony | either, I think |
| 20:44.10 | TuxToaster | wTrevyn: MySQL can't do replacements with a regex, so the regex to match that would be a bit more ugly, but more importantly, MySQL would have to do a full table scan as the match would not be indexed. |
| 20:44.29 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: second only to "Error: No error." |
| 20:44.39 | wTrevyn | TuxToaster: ok, Ill go the normalizing route |
| 20:47.20 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: at least then I'd know there wasn't an error :) |
| 20:49.07 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:49.59 | ninnypants | we'll it isn't the one possibility I thought it might be... |
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| 20:56.29 | fungus | mgeary, the M1000 can do a VIP mode, where both your subnet block and the private network are connected to the private side. You need to statically assign public addresses, and use DHCP for privates. |
| 20:56.54 | fungus | Your LAN interface will have the default gateway address for the private subnet |
| 20:57.09 | fungus | It's quite hokey, but it does work. |
| 20:57.20 | mgeary | well, i *think* that's how we have it |
| 20:57.27 | mgeary | well |
| 20:57.40 | mgeary | for the static IPs, i do an ifconfig eth0 alias |
| 20:57.53 | fungus | I think you also need the "unnumbered mode" checked too |
| 20:58.32 | mgeary | it is: * Block of static IP addresses (unnumbered mode) |
| 20:58.43 | fungus | ok, that sounds right. |
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| 20:59.05 | fungus | Using an alias might be problematic though |
| 20:59.15 | thinbegin | greets |
| 20:59.16 | fungus | You might need a second interface for dual-homed machines |
| 20:59.42 | fungus | The M1000 is pretty retarted, but it can work. |
| 21:00.17 | fungus | Better option IMHO, is let the M1000 handle all the public stuff, and get a separate router for a private network sitting behind the modem. |
| 21:00.58 | thinbegin | has anyone used some sort of "round robin" system for group email delivery? oh, and i should say that this is for a google accounts email system. |
| 21:02.10 | fungus | Nope, haven't even thought about a use case like that yet. Sounds interesting. What's your use case? |
| 21:03.24 | thinbegin | customer service as the user group. single email account, incramentally delivering to individual email accounts one at a time. email load balancing |
| 21:04.22 | thinbegin | seems like a pretty standard concept to me! :) |
| 21:05.32 | cro | thinbegin: well, you could use a separate piece of software running on another machine to query the GMail IMAP account and forward messages that way. Something like imapfilter or maybe one of the GMail Python libraries. |
| 21:05.35 | fungus | does it deliver to all group members all the time, so it's just slow delivery? |
| 21:06.58 | thinbegin | cro: yeah, i was thinking that i might have to write a dispersement script. seems weird one doesn't already exist though [from what i can tell] |
| 21:07.22 | cro | looks like you can also get an RSS feed, that might be handy too |
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| 21:07.28 | thinbegin | deliver 1 email to 1 user |
| 21:07.30 | cro | http://code.google.com/apis/gmail/ |
| 21:09.02 | fungus | Like a multi-drop mailbox? Where all the mail initially gets delivered to one mailbox, then re-distributed based on other email headers or such? |
| 21:09.15 | fungus | I still don't get it. Where does the group come in? |
| 21:09.39 | thinbegin | fungus: no. let me explain it better [by example]... |
| 21:09.48 | fungus | hehe, good idea |
| 21:10.10 | thinbegin | email gets sent to an unmanned email address [cs@domain.com] |
| 21:10.36 | thinbegin | there is a cs "group" of 5 different emails that are manned |
| 21:11.16 | thinbegin | when 1 email comes to cs@domain.com, it looks at the group list and determines who is next to receive an email |
| 21:11.30 | thinbegin | sends that email to that single user |
| 21:11.48 | thinbegin | when another email comes in, the enging forwards it to the next user in the gorup |
| 21:11.52 | thinbegin | round-robin style |
| 21:12.30 | thinbegin | fungus: that make more sense or no? |
| 21:12.53 | cro | I hate to suggest it, but the way we solved this problem at one of my previous jobs was with Outlook. Support staff would open both the support email inbox and their own mailstore in Outlook. When they accepted a support email, they would move it from the support email inbox to their own inbox, effectively telling the other support staff that the issue was being handled. It worked well. Doesn't load-balance for you, though. |
| 21:13.13 | fungus | thinbegin, ah, so like an ACD for emails |
| 21:13.36 | thinbegin | fungus: yeah! |
| 21:13.42 | thinbegin | cro: outlook not an option |
| 21:14.01 | fungus | thinbegin, cro's outlook suggestion idea will work with almost any mail client. |
| 21:14.09 | cro | I guess you could do the same thing with any competent IMAP client that can open more than one account and move messages between |
| 21:14.18 | fungus | exactly |
| 21:15.01 | thinbegin | most, if not all users rely on the web interface though. they are moving around a lot [diff computers and whatnot] |
| 21:15.23 | cro | ah |
| 21:16.34 | fungus | Probably just setup a chat channel for your CS, and have all mail deliver to all members. Then they can coordinate it. |
| 21:16.49 | fungus | Or get a ticket system that will import the emails automatically |
| 21:16.58 | fungus | and have CS work from the ticket system |
| 21:16.59 | thinbegin | i am looking at the gmail "groups" setting, but it isn't looking user-friendly enough |
| 21:17.35 | thinbegin | outside of that, i'm thinking it's gonna be a stand-alone script written by yours truly.... |
| 21:17.44 | fungus | Your idea is very uncommon, and is usually solved by delivering to everyone, or using a ticket system. |
| 21:17.57 | thinbegin | just wished someone had alread yexperienced a solution for this! :) |
| 21:18.07 | thinbegin | q-2... |
| 21:18.12 | fungus | Yes, it is an interesting idea. |
| 21:18.42 | fungus | The only problems with your idea are tracking the requests. Your custom script would have to record good logs. |
| 21:19.07 | fungus | But using an IMAP library isn't too hard to do something like that. |
| 21:19.07 | thinbegin | agreed. |
| 21:19.24 | thinbegin | heh. right. just lazy. :) |
| 21:19.50 | thinbegin | a few years back, at the utosc, someone presented on diy home security... anyone remember who it was and/or how to contact them? |
| 21:20.15 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart mindjuju |
| 21:20.15 | ibot | wallops mindjuju with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 21:20.26 | fungus | How many people do you have in your group? have you considered a ticket system? They often have some great features that help the CS people as well as their managers. |
| 21:21.27 | thinbegin | fungus: interesting. i might be able to used a ticket system that is invisible to the user group! i wouldn't want to introduce a whole ticket system to this user group though :/ |
| 21:21.47 | thinbegin | fungus: the user group is small. ~ half a dozen or so |
| 21:24.18 | thinbegin | hehehe. i love irc |
| 21:24.40 | mindjuju | who summons the GREAT mj ? |
| 21:25.15 | mindjuju | sup DtD |
| 21:25.47 | DexterTheDragon | just eatin a sammich |
| 21:25.47 | mindjuju | ~give a squeeze of lemon juice onto DtD's cut finger |
| 21:25.47 | ibot | ACTION gives squeeze of lemon juice onto DtD's cut finger to a |
| 21:26.28 | mindjuju | sammich yum, i had one too |
| 21:26.35 | mindjuju | i'm reading up on bacula |
| 21:26.54 | mindjuju | but everytime i see the word i think dragula |
| 21:27.22 | thinbegin | mindjuju: not blackula? :) |
| 21:27.47 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:27.48 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQuihD0hoI |
| 21:28.00 | fungus | "Dig through the ditches. Burn through the witches..." |
| 21:28.23 | mindjuju | i wonder if anybody has done a parody with bacula |
| 21:29.18 | thinbegin | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068284/ |
| 21:29.39 | fungus | lol |
| 21:29.40 | mindjuju | oh yeah, i remember that one |
| 21:29.57 | mindjuju | it rented occassionally at blockbuster |
| 21:30.03 | mindjuju | but that was MANY moons ago |
| 21:30.34 | thinbegin | heh, yeah |
| 21:30.39 | thinbegin | it's a funny one |
| 21:30.41 | thinbegin | mindjuju: you were definately at the utosc a few years back, do you recall who presented on diy home security / video survailance? |
| 21:31.49 | mindjuju | the cameras are familiar, if i recall that was the one with technical issues |
| 21:32.02 | thinbegin | heh. probably! |
| 21:32.04 | mindjuju | as to the name, I should have it at home, i think i have all the programs from the conf |
| 21:32.23 | thinbegin | i might still have that too come to think of it |
| 21:32.29 | thinbegin | i'll have to dig though :( |
| 21:32.42 | thinbegin | was hoping someone might just have a great memory! |
| 21:32.54 | thinbegin | ok, i'll change the question... |
| 21:33.17 | thinbegin | anyone have any experience with outdoor ip security cameras? |
| 21:33.24 | thinbegin | home use |
| 21:33.44 | mindjuju | i'm actually quite interested in the subject, i'd like to place a couple around the house |
| 21:33.53 | thinbegin | me too! :) |
| 21:34.12 | redroy | another wp question⦠is there a way to show the template assigned to a page⦠get_page() doesn't include the template⦠I'd like to get all pages using a specific template⦠is it in the meta? |
| 21:34.33 | mindjuju | thinbegin, you may want to ask the uphpu mailing list |
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| 21:35.06 | mindjuju | there was a guy that is a member of uphpu, works in draper, i met him at goodwood when we did the major uphpu geek lunch with family (when like 30 people showed) |
| 21:35.20 | thinbegin | mindjuju: i may do that. thanks! |
| 21:35.23 | mindjuju | and way, he wrote the interface for a security camera system in php |
| 21:35.35 | thinbegin | really? awesome! |
| 21:35.49 | thinbegin | i would maybe use python, but i like the php initiative!!! |
| 21:35.52 | mindjuju | he worked for an automation company out there |
| 21:36.15 | mindjuju | now that i think about it optikal used to do some external camera stuff |
| 21:36.44 | mindjuju | don't know if he still does, but i remember him showing me a feed from a camera with great optics that could zoom on a license plate clearly |
| 21:36.55 | thinbegin | optikal? yahooing it now ;) |
| 21:37.11 | mindjuju | optikal is here in this chan |
| 21:37.25 | thinbegin | ahhh. blush. |
| 21:38.17 | TuxToaster | yahooing? that just sounds weird. :P |
| 21:38.30 | mindjuju | what ever you find out though, let me know, i want to fixed cameras and one that can rotate |
| 21:38.49 | fatal3rr | $8ball Is this stupid thing ever going to work? |
| 21:38.49 | raifbot | fatal3rr - Yes. |
| 21:38.54 | fatal3rr | *sigh* |
| 21:38.55 | fatal3rr | fine |
| 21:39.16 | thinbegin | mindjuju: will do. thnx |
| 21:40.47 | TuxToaster | fatal3rr: what's it doing now? |
| 21:40.53 | TuxToaster | or, what's not working? |
| 21:41.08 | fatal3rr | It's something new |
| 21:41.18 | fatal3rr | I nailed down the submit ticket page |
| 21:41.29 | fatal3rr | then I did the list tickets page |
| 21:41.34 | fatal3rr | which is pretty much where I want it now |
| 21:41.47 | fatal3rr | I'm still having a hell of a time with remote authorization |
| 21:42.02 | fatal3rr | which was my first issue that I gave up on to work on the submit and list crap |
| 21:42.41 | fatal3rr | this remote auth is making me mad because it's ultra simple by looking at it....it's just not working at all |
| 21:43.10 | fatal3rr | http://support.zendesk.com/entries/23483-remote-authentication-from-php |
| 21:46.39 | mindjuju | DtD - this is some good dubstep - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoHn2vmxKks |
| 21:47.08 | TuxToaster | fatal3rr: hmm. so what happens with it? you get the request on your end, auth the user, and then... ? |
| 21:49.35 | fatal3rr | I cant tell what it's doing at all. By the looks of it, nothing |
| 21:49.52 | fatal3rr | I mean, the php is ultra simple with variables being set and what not |
| 21:50.04 | fatal3rr | what should the sso_url line do? |
| 21:50.11 | jkr801 | anyone know anything about wbadmin commands |
| 21:50.14 | fatal3rr | er, rather |
| 21:50.19 | fatal3rr | what should the header line do |
| 21:50.34 | fatal3rr | sso_url is just mashing all the stuff together |
| 21:50.45 | fatal3rr | that should redirect someplace right? |
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| 21:52.18 | fatal3rr | $8ball Have I been staring at this stuff so long that print hello world wouldnt even make sense to me? |
| 21:52.18 | raifbot | fatal3rr - Outlook good. |
| 21:52.42 | Utah_Dave | fatal3rr: I have your solution. |
| 21:52.42 | TuxToaster | $8ball you do realize that Outlook is not good, right? |
| 21:52.43 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 21:52.55 | fatal3rr | haha |
| 21:53.02 | fatal3rr | hmm, lemme try somethin |
| 21:53.03 | Utah_Dave | fatal3rr: Go eat a bag of Peanut M&M's and walk around for a little while |
| 21:53.17 | Utah_Dave | Then the answer will come to you. Works for me everytime! |
| 21:53.21 | TuxToaster | mmm... peanut M&Ms |
| 21:53.28 | fatal3rr | hmm, do you think pretzel m&m's would have the same effect |
| 21:53.32 | fatal3rr | those damn things are tasty |
| 21:54.03 | TuxToaster | fatal3rr: the $sso_url is the URL to redirect back to when authentication has finished |
| 21:54.21 | TuxToaster | presumably you have to enable SSO in Zendesk's account settings |
| 21:54.26 | TuxToaster | and give them the URL to your auth page |
| 21:54.28 | josephscott | $8ball peanut M&M's? |
| 21:54.29 | raifbot | josephscott - It is certain. |
| 21:54.29 | fatal3rr | Yes, thats taken care of |
| 21:54.43 | fatal3rr | lol |
| 21:54.47 | TuxToaster | then I (as the user) go to your account.zendesk.com page, and it will direct me to that URL |
| 21:54.56 | fatal3rr | right |
| 21:55.02 | TuxToaster | the page there then handles auth, and redirects me back to $sso_url |
| 21:55.05 | fatal3rr | which, I'm sure would normally have a field for un/pw |
| 21:55.16 | fatal3rr | but right now I'm just jamming those values straight into the PHP |
| 21:55.27 | fatal3rr | but when zendesk fires me off to that .php page |
| 21:55.30 | fatal3rr | thats the end of the line |
| 21:55.32 | fatal3rr | nothing else |
| 21:56.24 | TuxToaster | do you know if the page is even loading? |
| 21:56.36 | TuxToaster | (server logs, something else to tell you it's running) |
| 21:56.49 | TuxToaster | or do you see the redirect happening in the browser maybe? |
| 21:56.49 | fatal3rr | doesnt seem to be, I cant even get it to spit out a print statement showing me the variables in it |
| 21:57.01 | fatal3rr | I cant seem to get it to do anything at all |
| 21:57.39 | fatal3rr | ...wow |
| 21:57.45 | fatal3rr | hold on |
| 21:57.51 | TuxToaster | seems to me (again, haven't set up zendesk like this) but it should be directing your browser to the page |
| 21:58.14 | fatal3rr | time for me to go locate a large bridge |
| 21:58.16 | fatal3rr | lol |
| 21:58.26 | fatal3rr | I hate stupid oversights |
| 21:58.42 | fatal3rr | <? vs <?php |
| 21:58.44 | fatal3rr | *sigh* |
| 21:59.11 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:59.13 | TuxToaster | oi |
| 21:59.17 | SunSparc | ~console fatal3rr |
| 21:59.17 | ibot | ACTION gives fatal3rr the consolation moose |
| 21:59.19 | TuxToaster | $lart fatal3rr |
| 21:59.20 | raifbot | slaps fatal3rr upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh. |
| 21:59.22 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 21:59.29 | fatal3rr | lmao |
| 21:59.43 | TuxToaster | well, on the bright side, the whale just passed a bridge before that lart |
| 21:59.47 | TuxToaster | so you don't need to locate one now. |
| 22:00.38 | fatal3rr | hahaha |
| 22:00.39 | fatal3rr | very true |
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| 22:06.01 | fatal3rr | eating candy now to fight off the waste of time depression |
| 22:06.01 | fatal3rr | lol |
| 22:06.12 | fatal3rr | I could only find jolly ranchers unfortunately |
| 22:08.56 | SunSparc | Mmmmm... Jolly Ranchers.... |
| 22:08.58 | SunSparc | What flavor? |
| 22:09.40 | mindjuju | prolly lime |
| 22:09.42 | mindjuju | my fav |
| 22:11.24 | TuxToaster | hmm. this office needs some candy or something. you guys are making me hungry. |
| 22:12.16 | jsmith | ~buy TuxToaster donut |
| 22:12.16 | ibot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen donuts for TuxToaster |
| 22:12.35 | TuxToaster | mmm... donuts! |
| 22:13.26 | fatal3rr | What I could really use is one of the miller lites in the fridge |
| 22:13.31 | fatal3rr | but we have some clients in the office today |
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| 22:38.47 | josephscott | $8ball am I ever going to find a fix for this memcached bug? |
| 22:38.48 | raifbot | josephscott - Don't count on it. |
| 22:38.52 | josephscott | gee, thanks |
| 22:45.38 | TuxToaster | memcached bug? |
| 22:46.45 | josephscott | pecl-memcache and memcached 1.4.5 have a few problems. something that you should never see, but if you do manage to do the specific steps to trigger it, it does the wrong thing unfortunately |
| 22:47.12 | TuxToaster | ouch |
| 22:47.44 | TuxToaster | not even sure which one we are running now... think I'm still running the memcache library from the repos |
| 22:47.46 | josephscott | yeah, I have a way to hack around it |
| 22:48.03 | TuxToaster | someone suggested the pecl one but want to say I was having trouble getting it built |
| 22:48.10 | josephscott | and have someone who is going to take a deeper look, hopefully come up with a fix |
| 22:48.33 | josephscott | I think if you use older versions of memcached, like 1.2.2, then you never run into the bug |
| 22:48.53 | josephscott | it's only a combination of pecl-memcache 3 and memcached 1.4? that seems to trigger it |
| 22:49.02 | josephscott | this is what I get for using newer versions :-0 |
| 22:49.08 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 22:50.54 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: that prodigy dubstep is sick |
| 22:52.06 | fatal3rr | agreed |
| 22:55.53 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:58.54 | carmony | josephscott: switch to redis! lol |
| 22:59.54 | josephscott | I started doing some basic internal tests with redis last night :-) |
| 23:00.27 | josephscott | not sure we'll ever completely move away from memcached (it's been around quite awhile, well tested, etc.), but I think there are definitely some places for redis |
| 23:00.56 | josephscott | ridiculously fast on even basic hardware |
| 23:01.12 | josephscott | did a test run of 100k hashes, each with 6 fields |
| 23:01.56 | josephscott | unfortunately a few other things that must be finished before considering redis for production, but I think we'll get there |
| 23:02.27 | TuxToaster | yeah redis looks awesome |
| 23:02.50 | josephscott | carmony: I am really, really looking forward to disk store in redis |
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| 23:03.18 | carmony | josephscott: me too |
| 23:03.30 | TuxToaster | $8ball is redis awesome? |
| 23:03.30 | raifbot | TuxToaster - It is certain. |
| 23:03.37 | TuxToaster | see? :P |
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| 23:19.57 | carmony | lol, who wants to see my mad paint skills? |
| 23:21.08 | carmony | http://screencast.com/t/xHUxtzRnah2w |
| 23:25.58 | carmony | and now I have a strange craving to play Morrowind |
| 23:26.35 | orsonj | ~dub carmony the mspaint king of neon |
| 23:52.35 | TuxToaster | carmony: MS Paint? Microsoft Bob? |
| 23:52.44 | TuxToaster | is Clippy next? |
| 23:53.48 | ninnypants | carmony: the stick figures really get your point across |
| 23:54.27 | carmony | lol |
| 23:55.43 | ninnypants | carmony: did you ever beat morrowind? |
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| 23:58.16 | carmony | ninnypants: yup, a long time ago |
| 23:59.10 | ninnypants | it was a good game. I never even attempted to finish all the side quests. Such and awesome world. Did you play Oblivion too? |