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| 00:35.28 | josephscott | $lart IE |
| 00:35.28 | raifbot | farts in IE's general direction. |
| 00:35.43 | josephscott | report of yet another problem, but only happens in IE |
| 00:35.45 | josephscott | :-( |
| 00:36.50 | tierra | you seem bored today josephscott ;) |
| 00:37.18 | josephscott | bored of IE only related bugs |
| 00:37.30 | tierra | heh |
| 00:45.17 | ninnypants | josephscott: what's the bug? |
| 00:45.36 | josephscott | turned out to be an issue in one of the translation files that was missing a span |
| 00:45.58 | josephscott | IE was the only one that completely jacked the screen as a result |
| 00:45.59 | ninnypants | on wp.com I'm guessing |
| 00:46.05 | josephscott | yep |
| 00:46.25 | ninnypants | how many languages does .com translate too? |
| 00:46.57 | josephscott | I'm not sure what the status is for that, if you look on the settings page you'll see a pretty long list |
| 00:47.04 | josephscott | not sure how complete each translation is |
| 00:47.17 | josephscott | and having tracked that down, I'm off to dinner |
| 00:47.26 | ninnypants | later |
| 00:58.55 | ninnypants | ~karma ninnypants |
| 00:58.55 | ibot | ninnypants has karma of 1 |
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| 02:55.41 | carmony | hey macnewbold |
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| 03:37.19 | TuxToaster | evening Wade |
| 03:38.07 | wps | good evening |
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| 04:05.47 | TuxToaster | wps: the directive to hide the PHP version is expose_php |
| 04:06.01 | wps | in php.ini ? |
| 04:06.03 | TuxToaster | in your ini file. Just set that to off to remove the PHP headers |
| 04:06.05 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 04:06.10 | wps | why would you want it on? |
| 04:06.20 | wps | seems like it'd be good to hide that for security |
| 04:06.55 | TuxToaster | you'd think, but at the same time there are benefits if an app needs to determine what it's talking to by the headers |
| 04:07.19 | TuxToaster | could see either way there.... but shouldn't hurt to turn it off for most things |
| 04:07.46 | TuxToaster | trying to find the Apache one... been a while since I've touched that one |
| 04:08.24 | TuxToaster | aha. http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/15/apache-tips-tricks-hide-apache-software-version/ |
| 04:09.16 | wps | thanksâ¦Â I wasn't getting _anything_ googleing |
| 04:09.38 | TuxToaster | yeah the google is fun to manipulate sometimes ;-) |
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| 04:10.16 | TuxToaster | hola josephscott |
| 04:10.19 | josephscott | hi |
| 04:15.08 | wps | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=14036658 |
| 04:15.15 | wps | stories like this drive me CRAZY! |
| 04:15.22 | wps | You NEVER, EVER, EVER "believe a gun to be empty!" The #1 rule of handling a gun is that it is ALWAYS LOADED. ALWAYS. The #2 rule is that you NEVER, EVER, EVER pull the trigger unless you are willing to destroy what's in the path. |
| 04:15.49 | wps | it's so frustrating that people like that give guns and gun ownership such a bad rap |
| 04:16.45 | TuxToaster | agreed |
| 04:17.54 | TuxToaster | my father-in-law taught his kids to check and re-check, so even if you just checked the gun and then handed to me, I'd check it again. Wish everyone would teach their kids that. |
| 04:18.06 | wps | yup |
| 04:18.18 | wps | that's the first thing you do when you pick one up or it is handed to you |
| 04:18.37 | wps | but then, even after you've checked, you still always handle the weapon like it's loaded |
| 04:18.45 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 04:25.43 | josephscott | I suspect it is hard to do that 100% of the time |
| 04:26.17 | wps | I own a gun and have gone shooting and it's not that hard |
| 04:26.19 | TuxToaster | true.. but it just seems like every story where someone is accidentally shot is because someone "thought it wasn't loaded" |
| 04:26.20 | josephscott | wasn't their a policeman teaching a gun safety class a year or two ago hear that accidentally shot himself? |
| 04:26.43 | TuxToaster | josephscott: at least one... there was a video on failblog where the gun went off at least |
| 04:26.58 | josephscott | this was here in utah as I recall |
| 04:27.01 | wps | yes, sure, you can't be 100%â¦Â there will be accidentsâ¦Â but most you hear about in the news are preventable |
| 04:27.02 | wps | it was |
| 04:48.11 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 04:48.11 | raifbot | Bill Gates lives in constant fear that Chuck Norris' PC will crash. |
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| 05:12.40 | wps | I'm trying to ensure that my server doesn't us sslv2 |
| 05:12.45 | wps | this page⦠|
| 05:12.46 | wps | http://forums.cpanel.net/f5/sslprotocol-all-sslv2-61698.html |
| 05:12.53 | wps | â¦says that I can add a line to http.conf that will do it |
| 05:13.14 | wps | one of the comments says to add it within the <IfModule mod_ssl.c> section |
| 05:13.25 | wps | I don't have a <IfModule mod_ssl.c> section |
| 05:53.52 | wps | I put it in my virtualhost and it seems to be working |
| 05:54.04 | wps | thanks |
| 05:54.59 | pete_the_terribl | you're welcoem |
| 05:58.03 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 05:58.39 | TuxToaster | sorry was busy skirting Apple's store restrictions. :P |
| 05:59.16 | TuxToaster | and now... bedtime :-) |
| 05:59.31 | wps | have a good night |
| 06:05.56 | TuxToaster | danke :-) |
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| 15:39.46 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting Thursday: josephscott on PHP IRC Bots with PEAR Net_SmartIRC | ~welcome raifbot | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 15:40.03 | macnewbold | raifbot: who are you |
| 15:40.12 | macnewbold | raifbot: info |
| 15:40.15 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 15:40.24 | macnewbold | morning TuxToaster |
| 15:40.27 | TuxToaster | morning :-) |
| 15:40.53 | TuxToaster | raifbot should answer with some lyrics from The Who to "who are you?" |
| 15:41.13 | TuxToaster | that would be awesome. |
| 15:43.50 | macnewbold | who who, who who |
| 15:43.58 | macnewbold | you really wanna know? |
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| 15:45.54 | TuxToaster | heh yup. |
| 15:46.03 | TuxToaster | gotta love a bot with personality. |
| 15:50.35 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: btw, good meeting topic I came up with last night talking with Wade... PCI compliance. If anyone in the group has good experience with it it would make a great discussion |
| 15:51.36 | TuxToaster | I dealt with it a bit at the last place I worked but wasn't handling it first hand |
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| 16:01.55 | macnewbold | yeah, i think it would be great |
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| 16:48.11 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 16:48.11 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, sheri!" and lops off sheri's head |
| 16:48.22 | mgeary | bout time someone put her in her place |
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| 16:48.56 | TuxToaster | If I'm not mistaken, she's been randomly larted a few times recently :P |
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| 16:50.19 | sheri | heh |
| 16:50.21 | sheri | :) |
| 16:50.22 | SunSparc | I guess ibot thinks she needs more attention. |
| 16:50.31 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 16:50.32 | ibot | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats cedwards until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
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| 16:55.52 | TuxToaster | *gasp* you killed him! :P |
| 16:56.35 | SunSparc | :D |
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| 16:58.40 | herlo | macnewbold: raifbot's activator is $ |
| 16:58.45 | herlo | $chuckfact |
| 16:58.51 | herlo | or something like that |
| 16:58.56 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:59.01 | josephscott | sorry, needed to take it down for just a few minutes |
| 16:59.03 | herlo | $8ball is TuxToaster a hater? |
| 16:59.07 | herlo | josephscott: ahh! |
| 16:59.08 | herlo | lol |
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| 16:59.35 | josephscott | and, he's back |
| 16:59.41 | herlo | $8ball is TuxToaster a hater? |
| 16:59.41 | raifbot | herlo - Don't count on it. |
| 16:59.43 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 16:59.44 | raifbot | Chuck Norris has already been to Mars; that's why there are no signs of life. |
| 16:59.49 | herlo | oh, it was with a - |
| 17:00.13 | herlo | bbiab, lunch |
| 17:00.57 | TuxToaster | $8ball will herlo have a good lunch? |
| 17:00.58 | raifbot | TuxToaster - My sources say no. |
| 17:01.01 | TuxToaster | heh. |
| 17:05.06 | carmony | http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/13/2024237/Amazon-EC2-Enables-Cheap-Brute-Force-Attacks?from=rss |
| 17:05.10 | carmony | go cloud computing |
| 17:06.36 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 17:12.17 | PoeticIntensity | okay for those who care, I got 12000 / level 54 on that stupid ztype game last night. |
| 17:12.28 | PoeticIntensity | thank you, josephscott, for ruining my evening. ;-) |
| 17:12.36 | josephscott | haha |
| 17:12.37 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 17:12.39 | josephscott | wow, 12000 |
| 17:13.09 | PoeticIntensity | I used to type 120 WPM. |
| 17:13.12 | TuxToaster | I think the highest I got was 28 or 29 |
| 17:13.29 | PoeticIntensity | fun little game... |
| 17:13.33 | PoeticIntensity | there's a crazy memory leak, though. |
| 17:13.53 | PoeticIntensity | by level 54, I was using 3.8 of my 4 gigs of memory... |
| 17:14.18 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:14.29 | TuxToaster | yeah mine stopped responding to my typing |
| 17:14.33 | TuxToaster | which is why I died. :P |
| 17:15.55 | PoeticIntensity | so, anyway... Fun little game... |
| 17:16.11 | PoeticIntensity | I wish I could set the difficulty, so I could start at like level 25 or so, and go from there. |
| 17:16.11 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
| 17:16.28 | stderr | use the source, Luke |
| 17:16.55 | PoeticIntensity | is it open? |
| 17:16.59 | PoeticIntensity | I didn't even think of that. |
| 17:18.14 | stderr | after it loads put this in the url bar: javascript:(function(){for(var i=0;i<20;i++){ig.game.nextWave();}})() |
| 17:19.09 | TuxToaster | wow. hacking ztype? lol. |
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| 17:24.30 | josephscott | oh, I didn't tell you that I score 15 trillion on level 3 million? ;-) |
| 17:25.27 | TuxToaster | *cough* |
| 17:30.24 | PoeticIntensity | stderr, what would the complete URL be? |
| 17:31.15 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.phoboslab.org/ztype/?javascript:%28function%28%29{for%28var%20i=0;i%3C20;i++%29{ig.game.nextWave%28%29;}}%29%28%29 |
| 17:31.16 | PoeticIntensity | ? |
| 17:31.26 | DexterTheDragon | PoeticIntensity: javascript:(function(){for(var i=0;i<20;i++){ig.game.nextWave();}})() |
| 17:31.42 | PoeticIntensity | oh. |
| 17:32.55 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... doesn't do jack for me in FF. |
| 17:34.50 | stderr | load the original url |
| 17:34.56 | stderr | wait til the game has loaded |
| 17:35.00 | stderr | put that string in the url bar |
| 17:35.03 | stderr | hit enter |
| 17:35.09 | stderr | then start the game normally |
| 17:37.22 | PoeticIntensity | well look at that... |
| 17:37.23 | PoeticIntensity | it worked. |
| 17:37.33 | PoeticIntensity | and I died. |
| 17:38.59 | unum | mmmmmm |
| 17:39.15 | PoeticIntensity | I couldn't resist this morning. |
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| 17:51.42 | wps | what would be the most efficient way to limit an MySQL results set to the first half? |
| 17:52.16 | SunSparc | wps: as in paging? |
| 17:52.29 | wps | what do you mean by paging? |
| 17:53.31 | wps | do some math? |
| 17:55.01 | beandog | wps, in the mysql shell? |
| 17:55.25 | beandog | \P less or something |
| 17:55.27 | wps | ahâ¦Â I see what you're asking |
| 17:55.32 | wps | no, not in mysql monitor |
| 17:55.34 | wps | in a query |
| 17:55.47 | wps | example: I have a table with 100 records |
| 17:55.55 | wps | I want to select 1-49 |
| 17:56.02 | wps | then, in a second query, I want to select 50-100 |
| 17:56.09 | beandog | offset |
| 17:56.19 | beandog | limit 50 offset 0; |
| 17:56.22 | beandog | limit 50 offset 50; |
| 17:56.32 | wps | ah, offset is what I was looking for |
| 17:56.37 | wps | what if I don't know the total rows? |
| 17:56.45 | wps | can I get that dynamically with a COUNT() in the select? |
| 17:57.00 | beandog | uh |
| 17:57.02 | beandog | dunno about that |
| 17:57.40 | wps | there's been some nice-paying PHP jobs coming through the job list recently |
| 17:57.54 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart beandog |
| 17:57.54 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, beandog!" and lops off beandog's head |
| 17:58.36 | manderton | I just got a job through a uphpu job posting |
| 17:58.43 | manderton | hiring two more devs |
| 17:58.55 | wps | I'm glad to hear that manderton |
| 17:59.22 | mindjuju1 | beandog, back from the dead |
| 17:59.25 | mindjuju1 | good to see you |
| 17:59.27 | beandog | mindjuju1, yah |
| 17:59.32 | beandog | which is good. |
| 17:59.53 | mindjuju1 | tried to go up and see ya, but those rascals at the hospital told me visit hours close after 8p |
| 18:00.02 | beandog | mindjuju1, poopy. :( |
| 18:00.13 | beandog | thx anyway :) |
| 18:00.16 | stderr | beandog: what happened? |
| 18:00.26 | josephscott | $lart visiting hours |
| 18:00.26 | raifbot | whips out his power stapler and staples visiting hours's foot to the floor. |
| 18:00.28 | beandog | stderr, really bad stomach virus put me in the hospital for a week |
| 18:00.39 | stderr | oh wow. sorry to hear that. glad that you're out. |
| 18:00.59 | beandog | yah, all's well that ends well. I can eat cookies agian. |
| 18:01.00 | beandog | again |
| 18:01.03 | josephscott | we should have a geek lunch in celebration of beandog's return to health |
| 18:01.13 | beandog | woo |
| 18:01.17 | beandog | geek lunch |
| 18:01.29 | TuxToaster | wps: you can also just do LIMIT 50,50 |
| 18:01.43 | wps | TuxToaster: what if I don't know how many rows? |
| 18:02.06 | PoeticIntensity | wb, beandog |
| 18:02.07 | wps | I need the limit and offset to be dynamic |
| 18:02.12 | mindjuju1 | i think if the last result set is less than 50, it just returns what is left |
| 18:02.15 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, thank you sir |
| 18:02.19 | TuxToaster | it does |
| 18:02.24 | beandog | mindjuju1, thats right |
| 18:02.39 | mindjuju1 | so if you have 247 records, on the last pagination page, it returns 47 |
| 18:02.55 | wps | I'm not paginating |
| 18:03.01 | wps | I don't know how many I need |
| 18:03.08 | wps | I can't just say, give me 50 |
| 18:03.11 | wps | I need half |
| 18:03.15 | wps | half of whatever there is |
| 18:03.19 | mindjuju1 | oh |
| 18:03.42 | wps | get a count with a sub-query? |
| 18:03.50 | TuxToaster | yeah you'd have to get the count somehow. |
| 18:03.58 | wps | kâ¦Â I'll try that |
| 18:04.00 | wps | thanks everyone |
| 18:04.06 | TuxToaster | but I don't think you can do it in a subquery |
| 18:04.16 | TuxToaster | I think you'd have to select it into a variable and then LIMIT @count |
| 18:04.27 | TuxToaster | (could be wrong there, but that's my theory) |
| 18:04.58 | wps | oh, I see what you're saying, you can't use a "column" in the limit clause |
| 18:05.00 | TuxToaster | wps: just tested, subquery won't work |
| 18:05.39 | TuxToaster | actually @count isn't working either. |
| 18:05.45 | josephscott | if you need to this all at once a SP would likely work, other wise probably have to get the count first, then do a separate query to get the data with LIMIT |
| 18:05.59 | TuxToaster | I know you can do it in a prepared statement as well |
| 18:06.02 | TuxToaster | LIMIT ?, ? |
| 18:06.12 | TuxToaster | but doesn't look like it will work in a direct query |
| 18:06.18 | wps | k |
| 18:06.43 | TuxToaster | or the oldschool way, select the count first and then use your application to pass in LIMIT " . $count . ", " . $offset . "; |
| 18:06.54 | wps | yeah |
| 18:08.32 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 18:08.40 | wps | j/k |
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| 18:10.06 | josephscott | wps: if you need it on query you can do it with an SP there is an example at http://forge.mysql.com/tools/tool.php?id=13 |
| 18:10.43 | wps | thanks |
| 18:11.35 | josephscott | that said, SP's in MySQL are, well, wonky |
| 18:11.57 | josephscott | for simple use may be ok |
| 18:13.01 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
| 18:13.34 | mindjuju1 | wps, would something like this work? |
| 18:13.35 | mindjuju1 | SELECT * FROM tblTable |
| 18:13.35 | mindjuju1 | WHERE primaryKey <= |
| 18:13.35 | mindjuju1 | (SELECT count(primaryKey)/2 FROM tblTable); |
| 18:13.45 | mindjuju1 | i have no idea what the performance would be |
| 18:13.54 | mindjuju1 | could possibly blow up your box :) |
| 18:14.19 | TuxToaster | I've found that high volume requests that call SPs can cause some odd results |
| 18:14.24 | TuxToaster | depending on what the SP does. |
| 18:14.31 | wps | perhaps, but that won't work with my sort |
| 18:14.51 | wps | I don't literally want the first half of the records (sorted by pk) |
| 18:17.18 | TuxToaster | from what I'm seeing, your options really are to either do a separate query to get the counts and then include those from PHP (or whatever language you're using), or to use prepared statements. |
| 18:17.31 | TuxToaster | at least one source says even doing variables in a stored procedure doesn't work |
| 18:18.23 | josephscott | likely doing multiple queries is the easiest/fastest route to getting what you want done |
| 18:18.36 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 18:20.27 | mindjuju1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2fLg52wJgM |
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| 18:20.59 | mindjuju1 | love that song |
| 18:23.19 | thebigdog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CbMXBhPRaM |
| 18:23.30 | josephscott | happy to see our new stats launch today for Akismet - http://blog.akismet.com/2011/01/18/adios-flash-charts/ |
| 18:23.54 | mindjuju1 | ala ralph black |
| 18:26.24 | mindjuju1 | @thebigdog, can't go wrong with megadeth |
| 18:27.36 | SunSparc | mindjuju1: there is something wrong with that sentence... |
| 18:27.56 | mindjuju1 | which one? |
| 18:28.02 | SunSparc | Your laste |
| 18:28.18 | mindjuju1 | looks spelled right? |
| 18:28.42 | SunSparc | Something about it just feels... wrong... |
| 18:28.49 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 18:29.28 | mindjuju1 | just love that song |
| 18:32.27 | DexterTheDragon | josephscott: so when's the wordpress.com stats plugin gonna stop using flash? |
| 18:32.42 | mindjuju1 | heh |
| 18:32.43 | TuxToaster | so weird question |
| 18:32.52 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: getting there :-) |
| 18:33.10 | josephscott | there is already a non-flash replacement, uses flot as well, but it hasn't made it to the plugin yet |
| 18:33.49 | josephscott | I'm hoping it will soon, may need to pester the folks who are working on that :-) |
| 18:33.52 | TuxToaster | when dealing with class instances, if I have obj $a and obj $b, and I do $a->someProperty = $b; is there a built in method for accessing $a from within $b? |
| 18:34.16 | TuxToaster | since parent:: would give me the parent of any inheritance on $b, doesn't really apply to the logical parent |
| 18:34.37 | josephscott | TuxToaster: probably not, since there is no relationship there |
| 18:35.25 | TuxToaster | josephscott: that's what I thought. Just know they've added some stuff in 5.2/5.3 and thought it wouldn't hurt to check :-) |
| 18:35.48 | TuxToaster | luckily there are ways around it. hehe |
| 18:36.06 | josephscott | yeah, if you are doing that sort of thing, $b should be self contained |
| 18:36.19 | josephscott | for instance, if you did $a['new_obj'] = $b |
| 18:36.32 | josephscott | you wouldn't expect the $b object to know about the details of the $a array |
| 18:36.39 | TuxToaster | right. |
| 18:36.46 | TuxToaster | and in most cases it doesn't. |
| 18:37.12 | TuxToaster | in our stuff though, it's essentially you have a $segment object with an array of $flights, which as an array of $legs |
| 18:37.56 | TuxToaster | they're all self contained, but one of the programmers had some methods on a given $flight object that had to be passed a reference to it's "parent" $segment object |
| 18:38.30 | josephscott | it would be a bit twisted, but you could pass a reference to $a after the assignment |
| 18:38.42 | josephscott | $a->another_obj = $b |
| 18:38.58 | TuxToaster | yeah, I think we did that at one point, but it just gets confusing and recursive. hehe. |
| 18:39.17 | TuxToaster | so now it's $b->update($a) essentially |
| 18:39.18 | josephscott | yeah, possible, but probably not recommended |
| 18:40.14 | TuxToaster | which works just fine. Just didn't know if there was any way to draw an association there or not -- I have seen cases that maintain a relationship tree like that in other languages |
| 18:40.23 | TuxToaster | but not really what classes are intended to do |
| 18:41.37 | TuxToaster | hehe. |
| 18:42.34 | mindjuju1 | @DtD - much spicy-er - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzaLEp07Ms |
| 18:42.36 | mindjuju1 | love it |
| 18:50.55 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 18:50.55 | raifbot | Chuck Norris is what Willis was talking about |
| 18:51.02 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 18:51.04 | beandog | lol |
| 18:54.36 | TuxToaster | what's a good channel for streaming video privately to a client? I'm guessing he's wanting to stream a training video to a customer, doesn't want to use YouTube, etc. |
| 18:55.44 | mindjuju1 | @tuxtoaster, depends on what kind of stream we're talking about |
| 18:55.49 | mindjuju1 | flash or winders or something else |
| 18:56.07 | mindjuju1 | and if you want to protect *AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE* the stream from capture |
| 18:56.42 | mgeary | TuxToaster: you could check out Red5, a FOSS media streaming server |
| 18:56.51 | mgeary | it's pretty handy for things like that |
| 18:57.02 | TuxToaster | yeah I used it at a previous job for video conferencing and stuff |
| 18:57.15 | mgeary | or Wowza, if you need to take it up a notch |
| 18:57.46 | TuxToaster | I think he's looking for a service that he can upload to, I'd have thought just uploading it to a server that streams flv would be fine but think he wants an external host |
| 18:57.56 | mindjuju1 | @mgeary, did you see that they've recently released another red5 |
| 18:58.01 | mindjuju1 | i think they're at .91 now |
| 18:58.05 | mgeary | no, i haven't kept up on it lately |
| 18:58.20 | mindjuju1 | yeah, it's been years since i looked at it, but they keep uppin' it |
| 18:58.37 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 18:58.57 | mindjuju1 | @tuxtoaster, I've used influxis and recommend them |
| 18:59.09 | mindjuju1 | their engys are fairly accessible and responsive |
| 18:59.15 | TuxToaster | yeah I did some work on a server running OpenLazzlo or something like that, so that we could host our own web conferences internally, had to set up a Red5 box for it |
| 18:59.19 | TuxToaster | was pretty sweet |
| 19:00.42 | TuxToaster | mindjuju1: cool. I'll suggest it to him |
| 19:01.00 | mindjuju1 | also, influxis offers a crapload of apps prebuilt and ready to go |
| 19:01.12 | mindjuju1 | chats apps, conf room apps, tv stations, etc |
| 19:01.16 | mindjuju1 | some decent stuff |
| 19:01.16 | TuxToaster | think he's probably going to go with YouTube + private link now though. heh. |
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| 20:35.08 | mindjuju1 | gabe newell better not go another year without details of halflife 2:3 |
| 20:35.12 | mindjuju1 | or i'll go batty |
| 20:36.55 | DexterTheDragon | ~mindjuju++ |
| 20:37.26 | mindjuju1 | :) |
| 20:37.47 | mindjuju1 | how you been DtD? |
| 20:37.52 | DexterTheDragon | eh |
| 20:38.45 | DexterTheDragon | my roof has a leak and has done a bit of damage. so I needs to call some contractors |
| 20:38.55 | mindjuju1 | yipes! |
| 20:39.18 | mindjuju1 | sorry to hear that |
| 20:40.27 | mindjuju1 | for what it is worth, i got a transmission replacement for cost by wiring my neighbor the mechanic's office / work area |
| 20:40.29 | TuxToaster | oi. Not fun. |
| 20:40.51 | mindjuju1 | and deploying a comp for his work area that i built out of parts i already had |
| 20:40.54 | mindjuju1 | save $$ |
| 20:42.11 | unum | so I want to chec and see if a link on a different server is valid |
| 20:42.17 | unum | what's the best way to do that |
| 20:44.34 | DexterTheDragon | curl -I -X HEAD google.com |
| 20:44.35 | josephscott | make an HTTP request to the URL in question |
| 20:44.57 | mgeary | yep |
| 20:45.39 | mgeary | DexterTheDragon: has it. requesting just the header saves on bandwidth |
| 20:45.52 | mgeary | we have some link-checking scripts that do just that |
| 20:46.12 | unum | curl -I -X HEAD ? |
| 20:46.35 | mgeary | we do it in python, so i'd have to check the exact curl syntax |
| 20:47.16 | unum | ok I was looking at curl |
| 20:47.17 | TuxToaster | unum: or curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_NOBODY); in PHP |
| 20:47.26 | unum | TuxToaster: thanks |
| 20:47.28 | josephscott | as long at the response for the HEAD request provides the same result as the intended GET or POST, which is likely, but not guaranteed |
| 20:47.50 | TuxToaster | err, url_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_NOBODY, 1); |
| 20:47.57 | TuxToaster | man I'm just all over typoes today. |
| 20:48.04 | TuxToaster | curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_NOBODY, 1); even. |
| 20:49.13 | josephscott | I wrote a simple wrapper function to curl for HTTP requests that makes sure options like that are properly set |
| 20:49.22 | josephscott | too easy to miss an option in curl |
| 20:49.37 | TuxToaster | josephscott: good idea |
| 20:50.07 | TuxToaster | I usually use a wrapper function if I need to make more than one request in the same script / app |
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| 20:55.08 | Jacob_Kerr | <--- Decided to use Adobe Air for mobile app development instead of Titanium Appcellerator. |
| 20:55.42 | mindjuju1 | didn't apple do something to block all third party frameworks? |
| 20:55.49 | TuxToaster | they tried |
| 20:55.56 | TuxToaster | but then they relaxed some of it |
| 20:55.57 | mindjuju1 | oh, did they rescind/ .'' |
| 20:56.03 | mindjuju1 | ah cool |
| 20:56.14 | TuxToaster | Appcelerator is pretty cool actually |
| 20:56.18 | josephscott | it was apps that don't use objective-c |
| 20:56.22 | Jacob_Kerr | They did but it was lifted :) |
| 20:56.29 | TuxToaster | would be interesting to see what Air does |
| 20:56.35 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah I was using it.. |
| 20:56.59 | Jacob_Kerr | But Adobe Air supports BalckBerry as well now. |
| 20:57.07 | Jacob_Kerr | Appcellerator will not until June. |
| 20:57.11 | TuxToaster | so I remember when they said Flash could build iPhone apps |
| 20:57.25 | Jacob_Kerr | Plus I use to be a flash developer so it was easy doing AS3. |
| 20:57.28 | TuxToaster | is Air just doing the same thing? where it can export binaries for iPhone, Android, etc? |
| 20:57.46 | Jacob_Kerr | Well I can develop is flash cs5 with a nice user interface.. |
| 20:57.54 | carmony | whew |
| 20:58.07 | carmony | I hate crazy, weird bugs, and I love finding them and solving them |
| 20:58.11 | Jacob_Kerr | then I can export for all the mobile phones. |
| 20:58.18 | mgeary | i've heard Flash/Air apps run too slowly on iOS, any experience there, Jacob_Kerr ? |
| 20:58.21 | TuxToaster | a lot of web standards people would hate me for saying it, but I like Flash. |
| 20:58.23 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah it will make the install file for me. |
| 20:58.40 | TuxToaster | I just don't think it's a good way to design a full website, as much as parts of one. |
| 20:58.56 | TuxToaster | things like FusionCharts are pretty awesome and not very heavy |
| 20:58.58 | Jacob_Kerr | Not yet. I am almost done with my app and will be messing with all that tonight. |
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| 20:59.39 | TuxToaster | mgeary: I've heard Air apps run pretty slowly in general :P I used to use TweetDeck and didn't find it *that* bad, but there was some noticible lag at times. |
| 20:59.57 | TuxToaster | s/noticible/noticeable |
| 21:00.13 | Jacob_Kerr | My app is simple just registration, payment and file upload. |
| 21:00.28 | mindjuju1 | talking about lag, i was watching a vid on IE9 where they showed page render on their engine and on chrome, and of course, the chrome one was "slower" and buggy |
| 21:00.31 | mindjuju1 | too funny |
| 21:00.39 | josephscott | we just replaced some flash charts with flot |
| 21:00.41 | beandog | oh man |
| 21:00.43 | beandog | chrome is so awesome. |
| 21:00.45 | beandog | I'm in love, now. |
| 21:01.00 | TuxToaster | josephscott: yeah I know... you've got me drooling over flot. |
| 21:01.07 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah Chrome is my default browser now. |
| 21:01.18 | beandog | opens so fast |
| 21:01.37 | mindjuju1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qazKgGQXSJs |
| 21:01.43 | Jacob_Kerr | Hey is there a firebug for chrome? |
| 21:01.50 | josephscott | web inspector |
| 21:01.52 | TuxToaster | $lart mindjuju1 |
| 21:01.52 | raifbot | cuts off mindjuju1's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper. |
| 21:02.04 | TuxToaster | Jacob_Kerr: all webkit browsers have the Inspector. |
| 21:02.10 | mindjuju1 | tuxtoaster, did you clicky the link? |
| 21:02.15 | mindjuju1 | that's a spicy meatball! |
| 21:02.19 | TuxToaster | I like Firebug better myself, but Firebug Lite isn't as good IMO. |
| 21:02.24 | josephscott | I still prefer firebug over the webkit inspector |
| 21:02.46 | Jacob_Kerr | Well i keep switching to firefox any time I need to see selected source of content output by JavaScript etc. |
| 21:02.50 | TuxToaster | mindjuju1: yup |
| 21:03.03 | josephscott | firebug is still the best browser dev tool I've used |
| 21:03.11 | mindjuju1 | i don't know how my music appreciation prof could be so narrow minded to not appreciate electronica, etc |
| 21:03.17 | beandog | lol |
| 21:03.22 | Jacob_Kerr | Also view source will not show the current source if the source depends on posted data. |
| 21:03.34 | TuxToaster | josephscott: by far. Especially now that they finally fixed some of the serious leaks and bugs I was having. |
| 21:03.39 | Jacob_Kerr | it reloads the page then shows the source. |
| 21:03.40 | mindjuju1 | if he can dig on Enter Sandman... |
| 21:04.00 | TuxToaster | Inspector is nice, especially since it's built-in. But Firebug is better and easier to use, IMO. |
| 21:04.31 | TuxToaster | I constantly use it for changing CSS, find it's much faster to figure out what I want for layout that way than to update, save, refresh, repeat. |
| 21:04.50 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah the inspector is OK. I just do not like how you can not see content that is generated by JS with view selection source. |
| 21:05.06 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah I am a CSS guru also. |
| 21:05.47 | TuxToaster | yeah, I use Firebug in concert with the Web Developer Toolbar |
| 21:05.52 | Jacob_Kerr | I always download the page to desktop and open in DW LOL then edit CSS and f12 then change css and hit f5. Heh old school I know but it's what I have done forever. |
| 21:06.07 | TuxToaster | awesome for tweaking source and such. Really wish Chrome would have let their extensions do more than they did. |
| 21:06.39 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah if they had all the cool plugins firefox has then I would never have to use FireFox. |
| 21:08.30 | beandog | TuxToaster, eh, I think it'll get there |
| 21:08.31 | beandog | I hope |
| 21:08.39 | Jacob_Kerr | Dude I'm going to be so pissed if my Air app is super slow. |
| 21:08.40 | beandog | FireBug Lite is kinda wussy ... |
| 21:09.33 | Jacob_Kerr | Guess I should not use so many loops in my code eh. ;) |
| 21:09.41 | mindjuju1 | Walk without rhythm, and you won't attract the worm |
| 21:10.08 | mindjuju1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AqFBSf4xS4&ob=av3el |
| 21:10.24 | Jacob_Kerr | oh and event listeners do those cuase lag? |
| 21:10.34 | TuxToaster | beandog: lol. Yeah, but what do you expect for something in pure Javascript? All of the security restrictions that JS has to have now pretty much limit what can be done from the JS level to affect the browser's handling of content. |
| 21:12.00 | Jacob_Kerr | JS does not have almost full control over the current DOM? |
| 21:14.57 | Jacob_Kerr | Well I'm about to test out Firebug Lite |
| 21:15.06 | beandog | it works |
| 21:15.09 | beandog | but it won't stick |
| 21:15.14 | beandog | if you refresh, it goes away |
| 21:15.27 | beandog | or something like that. |
| 21:15.29 | TuxToaster | unless you set up your page to auto load it |
| 21:15.39 | beandog | TuxToaster, how do you do that? |
| 21:16.10 | TuxToaster | I believe you can just include a JS file and call a function from in the page. Haven't done it for a bit but pretty sure it was an option |
| 21:17.32 | TuxToaster | Firebug Lite 1.4 dev: |
| 21:17.40 | TuxToaster | <script type="text/javascript" src="http://fbug.googlecode.com/svn/lite/branches/firebug1.4/content/firebug-lite-dev.js"> |
| 21:18.19 | TuxToaster | looks like they've shifted focus of Lite to Chrome as an extension, but I believe it will work similarly included on the page like that... or at least it used to when Lite first came out |
| 21:18.37 | TuxToaster | I never could bring myself to use it much though, usually just use Firebug or Inspector when needed |
| 21:18.49 | Jacob_Kerr | View Selection Source for Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/hhlpjofmehafeaiaiflnddnfgnnpibgf |
| 21:19.21 | Jacob_Kerr | pfft not working :( |
| 21:20.13 | Jacob_Kerr | oh nvm just needed to reload browser. |
| 21:20.23 | mgeary | "hhlpjofmehafeaiaiflnddnfgnnpibgf" ? |
| 21:20.38 | beandog | sounds swedish |
| 21:21.08 | beandog | (name that movie!) |
| 21:21.30 | josephscott | do you spell that ... |
| 21:21.59 | Jacob_Kerr | oh cool it shows dynamic source also like FireFox i like this plugin. |
| 21:23.10 | beandog | mgeary, whats that |
| 21:23.16 | mgeary | ~pity beandog |
| 21:23.16 | ibot | I pity da fool beandog! |
| 21:23.43 | mgeary | beandog: if i try to explain it, you're going to say, "oh, Firefox has <some plugin> that does that!", but you're going to be wrong |
| 21:23.54 | beandog | I'm not plugin-savvy at all |
| 21:24.11 | beandog | mostly because I visit the same sites all the time |
| 21:25.23 | mgeary | beandog: www.treelinegroup.com/dev/mg/aw.png |
| 21:25.33 | thebigdog | mgeary chrome has it |
| 21:25.50 | Jacob_Kerr | I'm what ever I go to at the point in time savy. |
| 21:25.56 | mgeary | thebigdog: where? |
| 21:25.58 | beandog | mgeary, intresting. |
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| 21:26.20 | thebigdog | view background pages |
| 21:26.25 | thebigdog | and it give you memory stats too |
| 21:26.47 | mgeary | thebigdog: i don't see it |
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| 21:27.12 | thebigdog | well you have two items |
| 21:27.26 | ninnypants | mgeary: looks similar to the net tab in firebug |
| 21:27.54 | thebigdog | window task manager |
| 21:28.03 | beandog | oh wow |
| 21:28.05 | TuxToaster | looks like the main advantage to the AW over most other things (like the net tab in Firebug) is that it shows all tabs/pages loaded |
| 21:28.06 | beandog | ctrl shift j |
| 21:28.06 | thebigdog | ninnypants it does |
| 21:28.13 | mgeary | ninnypants: see, i knew someone would say that, but they're not comparable |
| 21:28.19 | TuxToaster | beandog: the task manager doesn't seem to show the details |
| 21:28.25 | mgeary | Safari also has a resource inspector that is more like firebug's net tab |
| 21:28.33 | TuxToaster | just the pages loaded |
| 21:28.36 | mgeary | thebigdog: the task manager doesn't show the resources |
| 21:28.46 | beandog | http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/static.py?hl=en&page=guide.cs&guide=25799&from=25799&rd=1 |
| 21:28.48 | thebigdog | and you can see it via view -> developer -> developer tools |
| 21:28.52 | thebigdog | that ones does |
| 21:28.55 | thebigdog | mgeary |
| 21:29.00 | thebigdog | the developer tools |
| 21:29.01 | mgeary | not in my version |
| 21:29.08 | thebigdog | then you need to update |
| 21:29.08 | mgeary | maybe i'm on an old version |
| 21:29.09 | ninnypants | mgeary: what's the difference? is that actual RAM taken up? |
| 21:29.21 | mgeary | no, that's bytes transferred |
| 21:29.28 | beandog | I wish / would open search though ... |
| 21:32.57 | Jacob_Kerr | LOL I love the discussions in this room! Def. my fav IRC channel by far. |
| 21:34.52 | beandog | epiwin. |
| 21:36.56 | mindjuju1 | ~beandog++ |
| 21:37.01 | mindjuju1 | ~karma beandog |
| 21:37.01 | ibot | beandog has karma of 25 |
| 21:37.14 | mgeary | beandog, glad that you're better |
| 21:37.15 | beandog | \o/ |
| 21:37.22 | mgeary | how do they treat "a nasty stomach virus" ? |
| 21:37.26 | mgeary | or do we want to know? |
| 21:37.42 | mindjuju1 | prolly with a regiment of puddin |
| 21:37.46 | mindjuju1 | and ice cream |
| 21:37.48 | beandog | just had to let it run its course |
| 21:38.01 | mgeary | that's what i thought. virus and all |
| 21:38.04 | beandog | yah |
| 21:38.06 | DexterTheDragon | they install kaspersky |
| 21:38.19 | mgeary | so they just treat the symptoms |
| 21:40.47 | josephscott | $lart stomach virus |
| 21:40.47 | raifbot | executes killall -KILL stomach virus. |
| 21:41.17 | beandog | mgeary, well they spent most of their time trying to figure out what it was ... |
| 21:41.26 | beandog | arrived by stomach virus mostly by order of elimination |
| 21:43.26 | mindjuju1 | sometimes it seems modern medicine is 2 parts quackery, 1 part guessing, 1 part experience / training |
| 21:44.32 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah I just wait for it to go away. No medicine. |
| 21:45.09 | mindjuju1 | for the most part I do that too, but i had some kind of lung infection about 2 months ago that after a month of not going away, i finally wen tin |
| 21:45.38 | mindjuju1 | (couldn't afford to let it progress to pneumonia or something) |
| 21:45.48 | beandog | I think i'll pass on "share your most disgusting health scare" story time. |
| 21:45.59 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah of course. |
| 21:46.01 | Jacob_Kerr | LOL. |
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| 21:52.34 | macnewbold | this one time, |
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| 21:52.39 | macnewbold | this guy i know had this thing |
| 21:52.42 | macnewbold | and went to the doctor |
| 21:52.46 | macnewbold | ... |
| 21:52.53 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 21:53.23 | TuxToaster | yeah, those stories rarely end well. :P |
| 21:53.43 | mgeary | because when they do, you don't tell stories about it |
| 21:53.56 | TuxToaster | mgeary: touché |
| 21:54.41 | mgeary | it's like how everyone says things like, "well, when i was a kid, we played in the toilet for hours at a time and then exchanged dirty needles, but look, we're all fine" |
| 21:54.57 | mgeary | ...that's because the people who weren't fine ARE DEAD, so they don't tell you about it |
| 21:55.04 | beandog | um, for the record, I never played in the toilet ... |
| 21:55.12 | mgeary | ~hyperbole |
| 21:55.31 | beandog | ~hyperspace |
| 21:55.32 | mgeary | "when we were kids, we never wore seatbelts, and look, we survived" |
| 21:55.41 | beandog | true dat! |
| 21:56.09 | mgeary | amazingly enough, everyone here is the culmination of an entirely unbroken line of people who survived long enough to procreate. Going back thousands of generations. Amazing |
| 21:56.21 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:56.41 | TuxToaster | and if you figure that every generation had it harder than the first |
| 21:56.48 | beandog | we're the pinnacle of evolution! |
| 21:56.51 | TuxToaster | pretty soon life should be easy as pie. |
| 21:57.22 | TuxToaster | you'll know when you're born what your entire life will be like |
| 21:57.32 | beandog | ~gattaca |
| 21:57.44 | josephscott | $lart germs |
| 21:57.44 | raifbot | pours hot grits down the front of germs's pants. |
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| 21:58.10 | TuxToaster | ~beandog++ |
| 21:58.22 | TuxToaster | gotta love that movie. |
| 21:58.50 | TuxToaster | josephscott: hot grits? really? |
| 21:58.50 | beandog | yah |
| 21:59.02 | beandog | I wish I had my own private shower that doubled as an incinerator. |
| 21:59.02 | josephscott | it's random :-) |
| 21:59.17 | TuxToaster | that's okay, my font made it look like "hot girls" anyways |
| 21:59.20 | josephscott | $8ball couldn't come up with something better than hot grits? |
| 21:59.20 | raifbot | josephscott - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 21:59.52 | Jacob_Kerr | Anyone here know of a game named TCE? |
| 22:02.48 | mgeary | Turtles, Crocodiles, and Eggnog? |
| 22:02.53 | mgeary | i love that game |
| 22:03.11 | mindjuju1 | @jacob_kerr http://www.truecombatelite.com/ |
| 22:03.13 | mindjuju1 | ? |
| 22:03.20 | Jacob_Kerr | Yes. LOL |
| 22:03.39 | mindjuju1 | never played it |
| 22:04.50 | Jacob_Kerr | If you like first person shooter game and also tactical gameplay it's a fun game! It's also free and available on linux |
| 22:05.18 | Jacob_Kerr | Multiplayer only. |
| 22:07.47 | Jacob_Kerr | I use to play Wolfenstien Enemy Territory at PoeticIntensity's place with my Co-Worker Shaun Roos. Twas fun. |
| 22:08.04 | Jacob_Kerr | and a few others. |
| 22:08.10 | Jacob_Kerr | TCE made from ET. |
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| 22:11.18 | mindjuju1 | i have some surplus computers i was going to turn into gaming computers for the company |
| 22:11.45 | mindjuju1 | needed some FOSS games to throw onto them where quick learn / play, not to high sys requirements |
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| 22:14.23 | mindjuju1 | $rlart |
| 22:14.23 | raifbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets unum feel it. |
| 22:15.39 | beandog | mindjuju1, bzflag! |
| 22:16.09 | mindjuju1 | bz flag would be awesome, but i'd have to be able to host the game internal, no going outside the company |
| 22:16.20 | beandog | do it |
| 22:16.27 | beandog | thats the fun part, making your own map and stuff |
| 22:16.29 | beandog | er |
| 22:16.31 | beandog | map settings |
| 22:16.32 | beandog | whatever. |
| 22:16.35 | beandog | game settings. |
| 22:16.39 | mindjuju1 | oh cool, i can host my own server? |
| 22:17.10 | beandog | mindjuju1, once you pay me a licensing fee. |
| 22:17.34 | mindjuju1 | :) |
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| 22:26.02 | Jacob_Kerr | TCE is fun. You can run it internal. It also has low sys requirements. Same with ET |
| 22:26.09 | mindjuju1 | oh cool |
| 22:26.26 | mindjuju1 | i'll prolly start building them out on friday |
| 22:26.39 | Jacob_Kerr | You guys will prob like ET more then TCE. TCE takes some time to get down. |
| 22:26.40 | mindjuju1 | i have 4 comps for networking / playing |
| 22:26.58 | mindjuju1 | well, i'll prolly install a whole bunch of stuff |
| 22:27.05 | mindjuju1 | different games for different folks |
| 22:27.17 | Jacob_Kerr | Cool. Yeah install StarCraft LOL. |
| 22:27.42 | Jacob_Kerr | Do not install WOW they will be hooked. |
| 22:27.53 | Jacob_Kerr | but you can not do that internal anyway. |
| 22:28.01 | influx | Lemmings. |
| 22:28.09 | Jacob_Kerr | StarCraft has LAN options. |
| 22:28.12 | mindjuju1 | i need something that is free |
| 22:28.19 | Jacob_Kerr | Oh. |
| 22:29.50 | Jacob_Kerr | Well Ima play TCE before my GF gets home. She does not let me play ;) |
| 22:29.58 | Jacob_Kerr | Damn woman! |
| 22:30.03 | mindjuju1 | got to keep the GF happy |
| 22:30.04 | mindjuju1 | :) |
| 22:30.09 | Jacob_Kerr | Yeah. |
| 22:30.32 | Jacob_Kerr | She would be pissed if she found out because I am working all night on this mobile app. |
| 22:31.02 | Jacob_Kerr | She would be like "You were playing that game!! Now you can not spend time with me!" etc. |
| 22:31.31 | Jacob_Kerr | Well take care *. I'm out. |
| 22:31.48 | mindjuju1 | cya |
| 22:33.28 | mindjuju1 | so the other day i had a hankerin for some General Tso's chicken, and went to a Chinese restaurant in Lehi, just inside the door they had some kid vending machines, where they usually have balls and other little toys and stickers for like .25 or whatever |
| 22:33.35 | mindjuju1 | I saw this one though, nuts! |
| 22:33.38 | mindjuju1 | http://img844.imageshack.us/i/blingteethwow.jpg/ |
| 22:35.10 | josephscott | inexpensive dental fail |
| 22:36.26 | mindjuju1 | i wish'd i'd have bought a set, but alas, i failed and the vend is gone |
| 22:36.40 | influx | 75c? That's outrageous! |
| 22:36.53 | thebigdog | mgeary: you have mail!!!! |
| 22:36.55 | josephscott | not if it was real gold |
| 22:37.42 | mindjuju1 | i think if i was going to get diamonds for teeth, id using them for incising, not for show |
| 22:37.49 | mindjuju1 | then i could eat all the corn nuts EVAR |
| 22:38.15 | mgeary | thebigdog: woot |
| 22:38.18 | mindjuju1 | course though, i guess cornnuts get mashed, not incised so that's molar |
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| 23:17.10 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:17.11 | raifbot | crushes raifbot with a full height scsi disk. |
| 23:17.20 | josephscott | hmm, that's not good |
| 23:17.59 | josephscott | $weather sandy, UT |
| 23:17.59 | raifbot | josephscott - current weather for sandy, UT - Mostly Cloudy 36f / 2c Humidity: 62% Wind: SE at 5 mph |
| 23:20.50 | mindjuju1 | $weather houston |
| 23:20.51 | raifbot | mindjuju1 - current weather for houston - Cloudy 58f / 14c Humidity: 76% Wind: N at 12 mph |
| 23:32.34 | TuxToaster | $weather Abu Dhabi |
| 23:32.34 | raifbot | TuxToaster - current weather for Abu Dhabi - Clear 68f / 20c Humidity: 73% Wind: NE at 10 mph |
| 23:32.56 | TuxToaster | $weather Abu Dhabi |
| 23:32.56 | raifbot | TuxToaster -* current weather for Abu Dhabi - Clear 68f / 20c Humidity: 73% Wind: NE at 10 mph |
| 23:32.58 | TuxToaster | err |
| 23:33.33 | TuxToaster | josephscott: where is it getting the weather from? WU? |
| 23:33.39 | josephscott | google |
| 23:34.04 | TuxToaster | oh really? didn't know they had a weather feed |
| 23:34.15 | josephscott | well, they don't exactly |
| 23:34.22 | TuxToaster | looks like it's likely the same feed as WU |
| 23:34.33 | josephscott | in theory they don't, in practice they do :-) |
| 23:35.27 | TuxToaster | $weather North Pole, AK |
| 23:35.28 | raifbot | TuxToaster - current weather for North Pole, AK - Partly Cloudy -24f / -31c Humidity: 70% Wind: N at 3 mph |
| 23:35.49 | josephscott | I've been to North Pole, AK |
| 23:35.57 | josephscott | during the summer :-) |
| 23:36.08 | TuxToaster | I've been to Ketchikan. In October. |
| 23:36.17 | TuxToaster | during a ridiculous storm. |
| 23:36.41 | TuxToaster | you haven't seen rain until you've stayed there a week or two. wowza. |
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