| 00:05.46 | tierra | I've launch yet another new site I've been working on for the past month :) |
| 00:06.03 | tierra | http://www.g45papers.com/ |
| 00:07.38 | tierra | used OpenCart for this one, which is awesome btw... well thought out code design, a decent template system (better than most carts, but there's still some things that bug me about it), and a very well designed DB |
| 00:08.46 | tierra | it's a little too new and too simple for any large retailers (it's still missing some features that some companies might consider required like wishlists or something) |
| 00:09.57 | tierra | the "Gallery" on this site has nothing to do with OpenCart btw, that's something completely independent |
| 00:10.06 | tierra | (well, other than on the template) |
| 00:12.32 | tierra | oh, I guess there is a wishlist module available to buy for OpenCart... |
| 00:13.10 | tierra | almost all of the modules are somewhere between $10 and $30 each assuming you need any... |
| 00:13.24 | tierra | I needed two modules for the site I just launched |
| 00:16.50 | macnewbold | that's pretty cool, tierra |
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| 05:04.40 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 05:04.40 | raifbot | If you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. |
| 05:05.37 | TuxToaster | related: apparently someone tried to put Chuck Norris in the coin machine: http://wins.failblog.org/2011/01/09/epic-win-photos-coin-machine-notice-win/ |
| 05:18.25 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 05:18.25 | raifbot | "The only thing we have to fear is Chuck Norris himself." - Franklin D. Roosevelt |
| 05:35.55 | wps | josephscott: you around? |
| 05:36.02 | josephscott | yep |
| 05:36.13 | wps | have a minute to help me understand P2? |
| 05:37.08 | josephscott | sure |
| 05:37.12 | wps | the screenshots/video show a post-new-message box and replying inline |
| 05:37.24 | wps | I don't see any of that in the demo: http://p2demo.wordpress.com/ |
| 05:37.34 | wps | none of the keyboard shortcuts work |
| 05:37.39 | wps | this instance⦠|
| 05:37.39 | wps | http://wpdevel.wordpress.com/ |
| 05:37.46 | josephscott | yeah, that only shows up for users of the blog that are logged in |
| 05:37.47 | wps | â¦has replies, but how to you post a new message? |
| 05:37.54 | josephscott | if you aren't logged in, you don't get the post form |
| 05:38.01 | wps | that's not a very good demo then :) |
| 05:38.18 | josephscott | yeah, short coming there |
| 05:38.39 | josephscott | just sign up for a WordPress.com blog, set it to P2 and play with it |
| 05:38.48 | josephscott | just make it a one off test blog, just for scratch |
| 05:38.54 | josephscott | doesn't cost you anything :-) |
| 05:40.04 | wps | k |
| 05:40.06 | wps | thanks |
| 05:40.47 | josephscott | np, let me know if you need anything else. once upon a time I wrote the original prologue, that eventually morphed into P2 with additions from others |
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| 15:05.28 | josephscott | $8ball is today going to be great? |
| 15:05.28 | raifbot | josephscott - Better not tell you now. |
| 15:05.39 | josephscott | hmm, that doesn't sound promising |
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| 16:21.56 | mindjuju | @herlo - ping |
| 16:23.29 | herlo | mindjuju: pong for about 1 minute |
| 16:24.37 | herlo | heh |
| 16:25.02 | ninnypants | maybe he didn't want to talk after all |
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| 16:27.09 | ninnypants | ~lart godaddy dns |
| 16:27.09 | ibot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up godaddy dns |
| 16:28.21 | mgeary | Hoover?! ibot, you're a Brit?! |
| 16:29.38 | mindjuju | we have hardwood floors, haven't used a vac for quiet some time |
| 16:33.02 | mgeary | no wonder ibot thinks that vinegar is a condiment |
| 16:33.13 | josephscott | $rm godaddy dns |
| 16:33.13 | raifbot | opens /dev/null and eliminates godaddy dns forever. |
| 16:33.30 | mindjuju | does mgeary have a grudge against the brits? |
| 16:34.02 | mgeary | nah, i'm just surprised ibot concealed it so long |
| 16:34.22 | josephscott | the H was capital, was probably referring to the brand |
| 16:34.26 | josephscott | not the term |
| 16:34.57 | carmony | lol |
| 16:35.15 | josephscott | $8ball will godaddy dns servers ever work correctly? |
| 16:35.16 | raifbot | josephscott - Outlook not so good. |
| 16:35.31 | mindjuju | i believe that |
| 16:37.54 | mindjuju | anybody looking for a good deal on a cross browser compatible awesome flash player that does progessive and real time streaming and more features that you can shake a stick at, let me know |
| 16:38.01 | mindjuju | i have a code for jw player 50% off |
| 16:38.09 | mindjuju | i HIGHLY recommend it |
| 16:38.29 | josephscott | *cough* html5 video *cough* |
| 16:38.41 | mindjuju | yes, they do html5 video |
| 16:39.02 | mindjuju | any how, does html 5 video have a solution yet for real time streaming? |
| 16:39.05 | mindjuju | i thought they didn't |
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| 16:41.23 | josephscott | I believe their is an IETF proposal for supporting live streaming |
| 16:41.47 | TuxToaster | re: earlier Hoover comments.... Hoover vacuums suck. And not in the way that most vacuums should. |
| 16:41.50 | mindjuju | :), in the interim though, this is a schweet ole player |
| 16:43.20 | josephscott | fall back to just using RTSP? |
| 16:43.46 | josephscott | it's been around for more than a dozen years |
| 16:44.25 | mindjuju | does it support that? i'm pretty sure it doesn't |
| 16:44.51 | josephscott | the video tag doesn't, but my point was there are other options to fall back on besides flash |
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| 16:45.18 | josephscott | which doesn't cause repeated crashes and horrible performance any things that aren't windows |
| 16:46.21 | josephscott | $lart flash video |
| 16:46.23 | raifbot | beats flash video senseless with a 50lb Unix manual. |
| 16:46.30 | mindjuju | ah, never tried streaming via rtsp |
| 16:46.49 | mindjuju | i've only had to do rtmp to winders, not to any other platform |
| 16:48.39 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:49.10 | TuxToaster | flash in general needs a $lart |
| 16:49.39 | TuxToaster | though the video is especially bad. Makes my CPU max out just to watch a 10 sec clip sometimes |
| 16:53.37 | mgeary | hey, Flash wouldn't be where it is today if there had been other viable options when they were needed |
| 16:54.00 | josephscott | agreed, I think apple blew it with quicktime |
| 16:54.06 | mgeary | i'm not a Flash fanboi (though i do work in it a few hours/day), but frankly, they stepped up when nothing else was viable |
| 16:54.27 | mgeary | agreed on that QT note. QT is awesome, and Apple did blow it |
| 16:54.28 | josephscott | which had the possibility of becoming the de facto standard for video on the web |
| 16:54.52 | josephscott | but it is 2011 now, time for other options on the video front |
| 16:55.54 | mgeary | yes, but being a standard, by it's very nature it will move more slowly than any of us want |
| 16:56.01 | josephscott | I opted in to HTML5 video for youtube |
| 16:56.13 | herlo | it's just people using old browsers. I mean YouTube already puts media out in compatible formats and is removing flash altogether from the videos... |
| 16:56.18 | mgeary | and so you'll get things like the Mozilla hacks, which achieve specific objectives, but aren't practical for "real" work |
| 16:56.56 | herlo | mgeary: those aren't hacks, they are fixes to what should already be. It's a problem we can't solve without holding on to legacy for a while... |
| 16:57.24 | mindjuju | sadly, i'm less optimistic, we can even get CSS3 adoption across browsers, you think AV is simpler? |
| 16:57.51 | TuxToaster | well, so far HTML5 support is progressing faster than CSS support did |
| 16:58.00 | mindjuju | by the way, i looked at rtp / rtsp video streaming servers, v slim pickings with VLC at top of list, not much options |
| 16:58.02 | herlo | mindjuju: it already is simpler than flash. No plugins required, no extra components. Most modern browsers already support it (IE is not a modern browser IMO) |
| 16:58.15 | herlo | mindjuju: check out icecast |
| 16:58.31 | mindjuju | easy for us to say, but wait until a real business wants video to all clinets |
| 16:58.31 | herlo | rtsp is lame btw, shoutcast format is bettar |
| 16:58.37 | mindjuju | we can' just lart of IE because we don't like it |
| 16:58.52 | mindjuju | rtsp was targeted to josephscott |
| 16:59.03 | josephscott | I can :-) |
| 16:59.04 | herlo | it's not about like or dislike, it's about trying to drive away competition |
| 16:59.05 | josephscott | $lart IE |
| 16:59.05 | raifbot | executes killall -KILL IE. |
| 16:59.25 | mindjuju | yes, i understand that, but joe blow businessman isn't |
| 16:59.33 | herlo | IE is dumb, avoids fixing simple things and moving forward to where everyone else is going. Just because they have market share doesn't make it right |
| 16:59.36 | mindjuju | you can't say, well IE sucks, so don't stream in a format compatible to them |
| 16:59.42 | mindjuju | they aren't going to seei t that way |
| 16:59.53 | mindjuju | i'm with you on how bad IE sucks |
| 17:00.00 | mindjuju | but i'm saying the reality of the market is otherwise |
| 17:00.23 | mindjuju | business can't afford to shun IE while it still has a combined 50% of market share between its editions of browsers |
| 17:00.33 | mindjuju | IE 6 + IE 7 + IE 8 |
| 17:00.42 | josephscott | sadly IE8 is far an away the most popular browser - http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-200912-201012-bar |
| 17:01.20 | josephscott | though mobile is a different and interesting story |
| 17:01.21 | TuxToaster | $8ball is Internet Explorer the browser of the devil? |
| 17:01.21 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Without a doubt. |
| 17:01.23 | TuxToaster | w00t |
| 17:01.30 | TuxToaster | about time raifbot gave it up. |
| 17:01.31 | mindjuju | heh :) |
| 17:01.38 | josephscott | in some ways I think mobile will be what drives advances for the web in general |
| 17:02.05 | TuxToaster | josephscott: agreed. People don't want to sacrifice functionality just because they are mobile |
| 17:02.17 | mindjuju | please don't get me wrong, I say a hex every night against IE, and at least 2 stink-eyes daily |
| 17:02.27 | mindjuju | it's just not at the point where it can be ignored |
| 17:02.31 | TuxToaster | but since the platform requires much more efficiency than the desktop market, companies are a lot more likely to put emphasis on improving it |
| 17:02.35 | josephscott | so to mindjuju's point if you want to support all clients, including mobile, then html5 video support is something you have to consider |
| 17:02.47 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 17:03.13 | mindjuju | in 95% of circumstances, that's true |
| 17:03.26 | josephscott | ideally flash would be for fall back only |
| 17:03.30 | mindjuju | 5% being businesses who are releasing content that they want <whisper>DRM</whisper> |
| 17:03.31 | josephscott | across the web video |
| 17:03.41 | TuxToaster | yeah that's what a lot of places are working on now |
| 17:03.46 | TuxToaster | HTML5 with flash fallback |
| 17:03.51 | mindjuju | that's where i think html5 hasn't shown anything, at least when last i checked |
| 17:04.20 | mindjuju | rtmp/rtmps are fantastic for what they do in that regard |
| 17:05.00 | TuxToaster | plus flash is good for things like video conferencing |
| 17:05.12 | TuxToaster | where the local microphone/webcam/etc. need to be controlled as well |
| 17:05.19 | mindjuju | @tuxtoaster - agreed |
| 17:07.58 | josephscott | $8ball should we use html5 video? |
| 17:07.58 | raifbot | josephscott - It is certain. |
| 17:08.36 | josephscott | I leave it all to the $8ball :-) |
| 17:09.02 | mindjuju | you know, i don't usually go to movies all that often, but I might need to go watch tron legacy a second time |
| 17:09.11 | mindjuju | that was a good good movie |
| 17:18.12 | mgeary | i'm waiting to show the original TRON to my family before we go |
| 17:21.25 | mindjuju | original tron is good movie |
| 17:21.59 | Utah_Dave | sorry, mindjuju. I have to disagree with you there. We watched the original tron last week |
| 17:22.12 | Utah_Dave | It was painful to watch. |
| 17:22.19 | mindjuju | really? |
| 17:22.21 | Utah_Dave | The acting was horrible |
| 17:22.28 | mindjuju | nah |
| 17:22.32 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:22.44 | TuxToaster | a bit cheesy, but I don't know if I'd call it horrible |
| 17:22.44 | Utah_Dave | The only good thing was the overall idea of the plot, but most of the movie was mindnumbing |
| 17:23.02 | mindjuju | concur with tuxtoaster |
| 17:23.10 | mindjuju | it was a different era where things were allowed |
| 17:23.22 | mindjuju | like take Iron Eagle, I remember watching that as a kid and thinking Wow! |
| 17:23.32 | mindjuju | but it was on Encore the other day, and it's hard not to laugh |
| 17:23.38 | TuxToaster | most 70s/80s movies involving computers are really cheesy now. |
| 17:24.11 | mindjuju | oh man, have you seen the computer on Wonder Woman? (i bought my wife the whole series for Christmas a few years back) |
| 17:24.15 | mindjuju | that's some funny stuff |
| 17:24.18 | Utah_Dave | I gave it's representation of technology a pass because of it's age, but the acting was really horrible! |
| 17:24.28 | TuxToaster | especially when someone was "hacking" and they'd show colored blocks moving on an old monitor as what they were looking at |
| 17:24.51 | mindjuju | oh, nobody does "computer hacking" like the movie hackers |
| 17:24.56 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
| 17:25.00 | TuxToaster | always hilarious to watch |
| 17:25.24 | mindjuju | oh wait, i take that back, the Net had some egregious things |
| 17:26.52 | mgeary | i find it incredible that you can't get original Tron on Netflix |
| 17:27.21 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart mindjuju |
| 17:27.21 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets mindjuju feel it |
| 17:27.28 | DexterTheDragon | Iron Eagle is the bomb |
| 17:27.37 | mindjuju | yeah, it dropped a bomb |
| 17:28.30 | mindjuju | :), i still likes it from my teenage years, but ... |
| 17:29.18 | mindjuju | @DtD, TuxToaster, 80's movie at their prime - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLwe7UqUX7k |
| 17:31.43 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 17:34.10 | josephscott | that is totally real, no blue screen involved |
| 17:34.19 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:36.19 | SunSparc | ~bluescreen |
| 17:36.19 | ibot | bluescreen is, like, A Microsoft anomoly that still exists despite the \"death\" of Dos. |
| 17:37.33 | josephscott | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KpfKp-gv6s&feature=related |
| 17:37.46 | josephscott | the good guys always win, even in the 80s |
| 17:38.10 | mindjuju | :), i just watched that :) |
| 17:38.33 | josephscott | battle truck - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxsFiVRX6BE&feature=related |
| 17:38.40 | josephscott | man, who came up with this stuff |
| 17:41.54 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:43.30 | SunSparc | They both look like spin-offs from Mad Max. |
| 17:44.12 | josephscott | I remember seeing this in the theater http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksJTPdNNQB4&feature=related |
| 17:46.36 | SunSparc | I see John Boy and Hannibal in that one. |
| 17:47.17 | josephscott | yep |
| 17:47.27 | mindjuju | in know this is possibly blasphemy, but I put this movie with the last ones that we just looked |
| 17:47.28 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7NaxBxFWSo |
| 17:48.10 | josephscott | um, mindjuju you need to take that back right now |
| 17:48.17 | SunSparc | Heh, Last Starfighter was not really a B movie. |
| 17:48.26 | mindjuju | but this movie - CLASSIC - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzI-ZbcK_sw |
| 17:48.56 | SunSparc | It was awesome. Granted, the enemy was lame and poorly done but overall it was a great flick. |
| 17:49.34 | SunSparc | Umm... I never really enjoyed Howard the Duck. |
| 17:49.47 | mindjuju | sadly, i don't know many people who did |
| 17:49.52 | mindjuju | i liked it though |
| 17:50.12 | SunSparc | DarkWing Duck, on the other hand.... |
| 17:52.31 | SunSparc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375ENQbru8s |
| 17:52.55 | mindjuju | you know, i never saw this, but i did see scrooge mcduck |
| 17:53.21 | SunSparc | They are related. |
| 17:53.31 | mindjuju | ah |
| 17:55.54 | josephscott | when comic book movies go bad - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcpmM-eTESI&feature=related |
| 17:56.36 | TuxToaster | heh, my IRC client automatically puts a small screenshot preview of vids and pictures in the chat. Looks like there's a few of them. |
| 17:56.52 | TuxToaster | http://cl.ly/083d0N1F0x0K1k1C3m1c |
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| 17:57.25 | mindjuju | tuxtoaster, what client is that? |
| 17:59.06 | TuxToaster | LimeChat |
| 17:59.08 | TuxToaster | on Mac |
| 17:59.32 | TuxToaster | it's decent. I'd love to write my own at some point, but it works for now. Doesn't feel as dumbed down as Colloquy and others do to me. |
| 18:01.27 | mgeary | i didn't like Howard the Duck, but i DID enjoy the Great Buck Howard |
| 18:06.05 | SunSparc | I never saw the Great Buck Howard, but I DID enjoy watching Uncle Buck. |
| 18:06.20 | mgeary | well, they're pretty much the same movie |
| 18:06.26 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:06.38 | mgeary | John Malkovich is pretty much the new John Candy |
| 18:07.20 | SunSparc | I am not a fan of Malkovich. |
| 18:09.37 | mgeary | each to his own, i suppose |
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| 18:09.58 | mgeary | except for PoeticIntensity, he doesn't get a choice |
| 18:10.50 | PoeticIntensity | Knowing mgeary, he's probably right. |
| 18:10.52 | PoeticIntensity | *sigh* |
| 18:11.03 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:11.11 | TuxToaster | $8ball does PoeticIntensity get a choice? |
| 18:11.11 | raifbot | TuxToaster - It is decidedly so. |
| 18:11.19 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: do you like John Malkovich in movies? |
| 18:11.24 | PoeticIntensity | huzzah! |
| 18:11.38 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... usually. |
| 18:11.42 | PoeticIntensity | I loved him in Red. |
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| 18:11.50 | SunSparc | He was great in Eragon. |
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| 18:11.59 | SunSparc | rofl |
| 18:12.18 | mgeary | Being John Malkovich was a decidedly unusual movie |
| 18:12.29 | mgeary | but really, The Great Buck Howard is worth watching |
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| 18:14.16 | mgeary | hey bea |
| 18:14.19 | mgeary | bah |
| 18:14.22 | mgeary | ~seen beandog |
| 18:14.36 | ibot | beandog <~steve@gentoo/developer/beandog> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 19d 36m 34s ago, saying: 'dunno.'. |
| 18:14.36 | mgeary | $seen beandog |
| 18:14.47 | mgeary | how have we survived so long without beandog?? |
| 18:15.02 | mindjuju | he's been in the hospital last couple of days |
| 18:15.06 | SunSparc | Because he still twitters. |
| 18:15.10 | mgeary | not really |
| 18:15.11 | mgeary | ? |
| 18:15.17 | DexterTheDragon | more facebooks |
| 18:15.25 | SunSparc | Yeah |
| 18:16.00 | mgeary | is he okay? |
| 18:16.32 | mindjuju | he seems to be getting better, but i haven't been back in SLC in days, haven't seen him |
| 18:17.18 | mgeary | so he was sick? |
| 18:17.44 | DexterTheDragon | they don't really know |
| 18:17.45 | mindjuju | yeah, some kind of stomach / sarcophagus issue |
| 18:17.51 | mgeary | wow. crazy |
| 18:17.56 | mindjuju | grr, curse you spell check! |
| 18:17.56 | DexterTheDragon | but they think he had a really bad stomach virus |
| 18:17.59 | mgeary | ~beandog++ |
| 18:18.03 | mgeary | maybe a little karma will help |
| 18:18.10 | mindjuju | esophagus |
| 18:18.14 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: I hate sarcophagus issues |
| 18:18.21 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:18.31 | mgeary | who's gonna answer my ffmpeg questions, if not beandog?! |
| 18:19.33 | mgeary | google, apparently |
| 18:20.21 | PoeticIntensity | yay for ffmpeg! |
| 18:21.07 | PoeticIntensity | last I heard, it was a bacterial infection in his stomach, that could have been there for 2+ years. |
| 18:26.58 | TuxToaster | oi |
| 18:49.56 | mindjuju | i wonder what the deal is on iphone verizon |
| 18:51.24 | SunSparc | mindjuju: http://www.engadget.com/apple/verizon-iphone/ |
| 18:53.01 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: there's an iphone on verizon. its not on 4G. that about it |
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| 19:11.32 | mgeary | hrm. I didn't realize that GSM iphones wouldn't work on Verizon. So i guess switching over to Verizon from AT&T would mean having to get a new phone. bleh |
| 19:14.11 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 19:18.15 | TuxToaster | just saw this on Twitter. Makes some good points, going to send it to the list as well |
| 19:18.16 | TuxToaster | http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2011/01/11/keeping-web-users-safe-by-sanitizing-input-data/ |
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| 19:35.08 | josephscott | $lart comcast |
| 19:35.08 | raifbot | whacks comcast with the cluebat. |
| 19:35.33 | redroy | what happened to jbot? |
| 19:36.49 | SunSparc | ~ibot |
| 19:36.49 | ibot | It's me |
| 19:37.09 | redroy | oh |
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| 20:43.04 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 20:43.04 | raifbot | shoves a crumpet down ChanServ's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that?!! |
| 20:43.54 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:43.54 | SunSparc | Sounds like ibot's little brother. |
| 20:44.22 | TuxToaster | when did ChanServ decide to join? |
| 20:45.42 | SunSparc | ChanServ has been a member for a long time. Though I do not think he actually does any PHP coding. Then again, many here use something other than PHP. :) |
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| 20:46.27 | SunSparc | ~uphpu |
| 20:46.28 | ibot | from memory, uphpu is Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org Blootbot's favorite channel.. Utah Potato and Ham Producers Union |
| 20:47.01 | josephscott | $8ball are you really that mad at ChanServ ? |
| 20:47.01 | raifbot | josephscott - Cannot predict now. |
| 20:47.12 | herlo | josephscott: oh, he's pissed! |
| 20:47.29 | josephscott | yeah, that didn't sound good |
| 20:47.50 | SunSparc | ibot: uphpu is also a channel for rehabilitating programmers who have used PHP in the past |
| 20:47.50 | ibot | okay, SunSparc |
| 20:49.01 | SunSparc | raifbot: what is your gender? |
| 20:49.24 | SunSparc | age/gender/location check |
| 20:49.25 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:52.24 | josephscott | haven't really worked on that part |
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| 21:33.05 | josephscott | this seems really odd - http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html |
| 21:33.53 | josephscott | do android mobile devices have WebM hardware decoding chips? |
| 21:35.07 | herlo | josephscott: unknown on my part |
| 21:35.36 | josephscott | I think the video decoding hardware in mobile devices only support H.264 |
| 21:35.37 | herlo | I would guess that they do or will soon since I know that android didn't/doesn't support flash |
| 21:35.48 | josephscott | pardon? |
| 21:35.55 | herlo | not by default |
| 21:36.04 | josephscott | that was supposed to be one of the big deals, that it supports flash |
| 21:36.05 | herlo | some platforms, specifically verizon have added it |
| 21:36.10 | herlo | it can |
| 21:36.12 | herlo | it's linux |
| 21:36.29 | herlo | just it doesn't come in all. I think the new ones mostly do |
| 21:36.38 | PoeticIntensity | herlo, my droid-x supports flash just fine.... by default. |
| 21:36.50 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: read my comment about verizon |
| 21:36.51 | PoeticIntensity | my brother's droid incredible does too. |
| 21:36.53 | josephscott | I wonder if this means they'll remove flash support, in the name of open development |
| 21:37.00 | herlo | I doubt it |
| 21:37.12 | DexterTheDragon | flash works on all android > 2.0, maybe 2.1 |
| 21:37.14 | josephscott | my gut is this has nothing to do with open development |
| 21:37.19 | DexterTheDragon | tho its still a sin against nature |
| 21:37.24 | herlo | lol |
| 21:37.40 | PoeticIntensity | my co-worker's captivate supports flash from AT&T |
| 21:37.46 | herlo | there you go, > 2.0 has it. I just know the G1 and MyTouch didn't |
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| 21:52.14 | thebigdog | http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html |
| 21:57.56 | josephscott | interesting, no support for webm at all |
| 21:58.31 | josephscott | for that matter, doesn't android still use a safari/webkit browser instead of a chrome/webkit browser? |
| 22:00.58 | thebigdog | uses chrome/webkit |
| 22:02.08 | DexterTheDragon | "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.2.1; en-us; Nexus One Build/FRG83D) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1" |
| 22:02.18 | DexterTheDragon | its just a webkit browser |
| 22:02.32 | DexterTheDragon | html5 video support on android is kinda jacked |
| 22:02.37 | josephscott | 2.2 Froyo apparently includes the chrome v8 js engine |
| 22:02.54 | thebigdog | DexterTheDragon: wow that sucks |
| 22:03.32 | DexterTheDragon | natively the android browser won't play html5 video |
| 22:03.54 | josephscott | h.264 or webm? |
| 22:03.57 | DexterTheDragon | it requires js to fire the play on it, which causes the video to then jump into the video app and play |
| 22:04.03 | DexterTheDragon | h.264 |
| 22:04.10 | DexterTheDragon | haven't tried webm on it |
| 22:04.19 | josephscott | oh, right, yeah, that's common on mobile devices, to jump into the video player |
| 22:04.39 | DexterTheDragon | yeah but the requiring js to do it is odd |
| 22:05.10 | thebigdog | i am not sure why you would want to play it in html5 |
| 22:05.16 | thebigdog | i always play them in the media player |
| 22:05.25 | thebigdog | just easier to deal with from a programming prospective |
| 22:05.57 | DexterTheDragon | I like that too, its just the native <video> tag does nothing in android |
| 22:06.10 | DexterTheDragon | you have to call video.play() from js to get it to go |
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| 22:37.07 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 22:37.07 | raifbot | Chuck Norris once broke the land speed record on a bicycle that was missing its chain and the back tire. |
| 22:37.22 | redroy | LOL |
| 22:41.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:42.50 | mindjuju | DtD - tell me what you think - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBQa8Kx92fk |
| 22:42.54 | mindjuju | i think it's pretty good |
| 22:44.33 | mindjuju | gets a little old by the end |
| 22:45.23 | josephscott | $google tron remix |
| 22:45.24 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=tron+remix -- http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsBQa8Kx92fk -- http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRXfwiT2LwE0 -- http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dblog.view%26friendId%3D2433407%26blogId%3D533830438 |
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| 23:04.48 | mgeary | $josephscott |
| 23:04.55 | mgeary | really...? |
| 23:04.58 | josephscott | haha |
| 23:05.12 | josephscott | perhaps we can add that command at the UPHPU meeting :-) |
| 23:06.24 | fungus | http://www.break.com/index/my-blackberry-is-not-working-1977308 |
| 23:13.29 | mindjuju1 | @fungus, that's awesome! |
| 23:13.29 | fungus | hehe, yup |
| 23:18.01 | influx | http://deadink.org/images/tmp/squidworth-final_mini.jpg |
| 23:48.18 | SunSparc | http://bit.ly/eimKFb |
| 23:48.29 | SunSparc | Thanks to 7 of 9 for that link. |
| 23:48.56 | mgeary | Glen Beck to Sarah Palin: "... but please look into protection for your family. An attempt on you could bring the republic down." I'm sorry, but WHAT? |
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| 23:51.26 | SunSparc | mgeary: He is a comedian. That was an attempt at humor. You are supposed to either laugh or just shake your head. |
| 23:53.32 | _psychic_ | SunSparc: he should switch networks with Jon Stewart, then. |
| 23:53.45 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:54.13 | SunSparc | Perhaps he should at that. Though I think every network likes to have a comedian on the list, just for diversity sake. |
| 23:54.32 | DexterTheDragon | http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-10-2011/arizona-shootings-reaction |
| 23:55.18 | stderr | yea. Leave it to Jon Stewart to have the classiest and most accurate take on the shootings of anyone in the media |
