| 00:11.17 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 00:11.17 | ibot | whacks stderr_ with a giant beaver's tail |
| 01:08.51 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: ping |
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| 01:13.57 | mgeary | anyone here comfortable with apache performance tuning? |
| 01:14.57 | mgeary | well, we can discuss tomorrow |
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| 04:38.37 | mindjuju | DtD, ping |
| 04:39.19 | carmony | lol |
| 04:39.36 | carmony | I shouldn't have hooked up my twitter account with my facebook acct |
| 04:39.55 | carmony | All my high school friends are like "What the heck are you talking about?" |
| 04:40.04 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 15:26.09 | josephscott | carmony: today I'm reviewing MySQL queries and table design to make them less horrible :-) |
| 15:26.52 | carmony | haha |
| 15:26.59 | carmony | hope you have better success than I did |
| 15:27.06 | carmony | actually, I did have a lot of success |
| 15:27.09 | carmony | just took 16 hours |
| 15:27.29 | josephscott | I won't be getting this done today, it will definitely take more than 16 hours :-) |
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| 15:29.43 | carmony | yeah, I bet |
| 15:30.58 | jsmith | josephscott: Unfortunately, I need to do the same with a couple of systems, and I know it's going to take weeks of digging through query logs and EXPLAIN output |
| 15:31.48 | josephscott | yeah, I've got to build some async processing for data before pumping it directly into MySQL, so there are a few different pieces that I have to build/fix for all of this work |
| 15:31.58 | mindjuju | yeah we REALLY feel sorry for jsmith, having to debug and virginia |
| 15:32.08 | mindjuju | with its tons of trees, mountains, etc |
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| 15:33.08 | Utah_Dave | and his flying all over the world! |
| 15:33.52 | mindjuju | yeah, and his flying all over the world |
| 15:34.38 | jsmith | It's a tough life, but somebody has to do it :-p |
| 15:35.57 | josephscott | I love discovering new ways people have abused MySQL and PHP |
| 15:38.48 | jsmith | josephscott: In my case, I'm using PostgreSQL as the backend for a CMS that was obviously written with MySQL in mind, and without scalability in mind |
| 15:39.07 | jsmith | josephscott: So I'm adding a lot of indices and rewriting queries to make them scale better |
| 15:39.43 | josephscott | the more time I spend dealing with large data sets, the more I've become apt to forgive folks for not scaling out of the box, it is hard |
| 15:40.19 | josephscott | now writing bad queries, well, that's just not taking the time to review what your DB is doing |
| 15:41.00 | josephscott | I've come to believe that scaling is a matter of continuing to try and try until you get it right |
| 15:41.23 | josephscott | which, like writing code, almost never works the first time (at least not 100%) |
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| 15:46.30 | jsmith | josephscott: Of course -- I live by the mantra that "If it's worth writing, it's worth writing again" |
| 15:46.59 | jsmith | josephscott: It is certainly an iterative process... some people just choose to make a single iteration and then give up! |
| 15:47.08 | josephscott | so true |
| 15:47.19 | carmony | I live by: "No more late-night taco bell runs, or in the morning I'll have other runs to deal with." |
| 15:47.22 | carmony | probably tmi |
| 15:47.24 | carmony | :P |
| 15:49.27 | josephscott | ~lart carmony |
| 15:49.27 | ibot | slaps carmony upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
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| 21:20.06 | thebigdog | josephscott: there he is |
| 21:20.16 | thebigdog | welcome ibot |
| 21:20.24 | josephscott | ibot, kneel before Zod! |
| 21:25.46 | PoeticIntensity | Hey-o! |
| 21:26.17 | PoeticIntensity | would someone be so kind as to send me a message through my new contact page? |
| 21:26.22 | PoeticIntensity | www.advancedbudgetstudios.com |
| 21:26.37 | PoeticIntensity | I just need to see if it's workin' for the outsiders... |
| 21:26.38 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 21:26.44 | PoeticIntensity | thanks in advance. |
| 21:28.27 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 21:28.42 | PoeticIntensity | thank you... I always love me some good script lovin'. |
| 21:31.44 | carmony | hrm, how do I add a service user to Ubuntu? |
| 21:31.47 | carmony | I can't remember |
| 21:42.03 | stderr | 'service' user? |
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| 21:43.28 | carmony | like, the user a service/daemon runs on |
| 21:43.35 | carmony | I think I found my answer |
| 21:43.51 | carmony | a system account |
| 21:44.33 | mindjuju | @jsmith -- that lack of sympath i showed you today, forget all that, i've got a question for you |
| 21:44.36 | mindjuju | you around? |
| 21:44.39 | josephscott | adduser :-) |
| 21:45.18 | stderr | useradd, actually. adduser adds a particular user to a group on Debian-based systems. |
| 21:45.21 | stderr | tmyk |
| 21:46.19 | jsmith | mindjuju: Guilty as charged... what's up? |
| 21:48.03 | josephscott | having two different commands for the same function, brilliant, NOT |
| 21:51.18 | fungus | carmony, the difference between a "system" user and a non-system user is only that the UID is low for a system user. |
| 21:51.35 | fungus | so to create a system user, you have to manually lookup and specify a UID |
| 21:52.18 | carmony | Well, I just want to create a user named "redis" for redis to run as |
| 21:52.32 | fungus | And take care to make the shell /bin/false if you don't need to ever login as the user |
| 21:54.10 | fungus | eg. useradd -d /path/to/service -u 120 -s /bin/false -c "Description of service" service |
| 21:54.41 | fungus | optionally specifying a gid for a service group or system group |
| 22:03.46 | mindjuju | fungus, this is review for sysadmin class i took fall semester :) |
| 22:03.51 | mindjuju | i actually knew the stuff! |
| 22:05.00 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 22:05.04 | mindjuju | ~jsmith++ |
| 22:08.55 | utahcon | anyone here with experience with sonicwall pro 1260 firewalls and switchvox pbx? |
| 22:10.38 | utahcon | I think my problem lies with the firewall device... but |
| 22:11.04 | utahcon | when I try to dial out my carrier sees the invite, but it says teh return port is listed at 14470 instead of 5060 |
| 22:11.19 | utahcon | I have no idea how the invite is built, handled, or whatever. |
| 22:11.31 | utahcon | I also have no idea how to get the packets back into my network |
| 22:11.45 | utahcon | I have tried so many different configurations my head is spinning |
| 22:12.02 | herlo | haha, I'd like to see you do a 360 degree turn with that noggin |
| 22:12.34 | herlo | lol |
| 22:12.48 | herlo | no moving your shoulders....CHEATER! |
| 22:12.51 | mindjuju | utahcon, i've got time with the sonicawall 2040 |
| 22:13.06 | utahcon | mindjuju: and perhaps VoIP behind it? |
| 22:13.16 | utahcon | mindjuju: I will take any advice given |
| 22:13.26 | mindjuju | ah, sorry, no VOIP |
| 22:13.31 | mindjuju | i had it at a colo |
| 22:13.52 | mindjuju | what qq do you have? |
| 22:14.23 | utahcon | mindjuju: 15:11 is my ? |
| 22:15.16 | mindjuju | ? |
| 22:17.47 | utahcon | mindjuju: http://pastie.org/1429597 |
| 22:20.57 | mindjuju | utahcon, PM |
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| 22:34.24 | utahcon | mindjuju: pm |
| 22:38.56 | herlo | you know, PMs only help one person |
| 22:39.08 | herlo | public conversation could help others :) |
| 22:39.23 | mgeary | ~leak private messages to the world |
| 22:39.54 | herlo | lol |
| 22:40.04 | herlo | ~lart utahcon |
| 22:40.04 | ibot | runs at utahcon with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 22:40.38 | herlo | w00t! |
| 22:40.45 | josephscott | ~wikileak herlo |
| 22:40.47 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: all the bad ones are about you |
| 22:40.50 | herlo | :P |
| 22:43.13 | mindjuju | @herlo, here is what i sent him http://www.sonicwall.com/downloads/Configuring_VoIP_for_SonicOS_Enhanced.pdf |
| 22:43.42 | mindjuju | though i just wanted to talk with him somewhere where we didn't have a logger logging every logged word for google indexer to index |
| 22:44.40 | josephscott | ~google mindjuju |
| 22:45.09 | mindjuju | googling josephscott is like googling google, it brings back the whole list |
| 22:52.09 | herlo | lol |
| 22:52.39 | herlo | mindjuju: i understand if it's of personal nature. It's just nice to have good info logged and indexed, that is all I was driving at :) |
| 22:52.59 | herlo | then I can search what you discussed if I remember even part of the conversation |
| 22:55.13 | mindjuju | true dat |
| 22:55.35 | herlo | but now you've just deprived the entire world of your wisdom, shame on you |
| 22:55.51 | mindjuju | no, i gave the link to the world just a few posts above |
| 22:55.54 | herlo | lol |
| 22:55.54 | mindjuju | yeah! world saved! |
| 22:56.07 | herlo | mindjuju: except we don't know how you came to that conclusion :) |
| 22:56.13 | mindjuju | dear facebook, i saved the world, nuff said, kthxbye |
| 22:56.24 | mindjuju | psh posh, i came to the link via google |
| 22:56.27 | herlo | hehe, nice mindjuju you should put that up there |
| 22:56.46 | herlo | ahh, good ol' bash.org |
| 22:57.50 | herlo | all I gotta say, GitPython rocks! |
| 23:18.02 | fungus | Did you know that if you put "google" into Google, the internet will break? |
| 23:18.16 | mindjuju | i <3 it.crowd |
| 23:18.30 | fungus | hehe |
| 23:18.55 | mindjuju | have you seen the one where they get the "internet" from the Elders and loan it to Jenn for her presentation? |
| 23:19.05 | fungus | lol, of course |
| 23:19.23 | fungus | it's wireless! |
| 23:19.29 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:20.01 | mindjuju | for those of you who haven't seen what we're talking about, it's this |
| 23:20.02 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg |
| 23:20.48 | ninnypants | that's one of my favorite episodes |
| 23:22.06 | herlo | mindjuju: lol |
| 23:22.28 | mindjuju | i can't wait for the new season |
| 23:22.33 | mindjuju | what ever number it is, i forget |
| 23:22.46 | herlo | 17 |
| 23:23.03 | herlo | mindjuju: ever see this movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087175/ |
| 23:23.22 | mindjuju | course |
| 23:23.25 | mindjuju | in VHS and DVD |
| 23:23.34 | mindjuju | i mean, i own it in oth formats |
| 23:24.05 | herlo | mindjuju: it was the first PG-13 movie I ever saw |
| 23:24.25 | herlo | freaked me out at the time |
| 23:24.33 | herlo | I think I saw it in 1984 |
| 23:24.40 | mindjuju | yeah, it was a good movie |
| 23:24.47 | herlo | I was only 12 at that point |
| 23:24.52 | mindjuju | did you see it again reently? |
| 23:25.05 | herlo | no, someone else mentioned dreamscape as their hosting platform haha |
| 23:25.09 | herlo | so it reminded me |
| 23:25.31 | mindjuju | ah |
| 23:25.39 | mindjuju | pretty cool idea |
| 23:25.49 | mindjuju | go into people's dreams and kill them there |
| 23:26.04 | herlo | lol, yeah |
| 23:26.06 | ninnypants | they just wake up then :) |
| 23:26.15 | herlo | mindjuju: it's inception before inception :) |
| 23:26.24 | mindjuju | no, it's based on the premises that if you die there, you die here |
| 23:26.30 | herlo | indeed |
| 23:26.33 | mindjuju | i still have yet to see inception |
| 23:26.41 | herlo | oh, then I won't say more |
| 23:27.00 | herlo | no |
| 23:27.03 | mindjuju | i do own all extednded edition LoTR |
| 23:27.06 | mindjuju | whew! |
| 23:27.28 | herlo | but I am in the minority from what I can tell |
| 23:27.34 | mindjuju | on tron? |
| 23:27.40 | mindjuju | no way, that movie was awesome |
| 23:27.44 | mindjuju | best of 2010 |
| 23:28.46 | josephscott | tron fights for the users |
| 23:29.33 | herlo | mindjuju: but you haven't seen Inception |
| 23:29.39 | herlo | and to compare, you must |
| 23:32.14 | mgeary | haven't seen it yet |
| 23:34.27 | josephscott | I saw it last week, totally worth it |
| 23:34.44 | ninnypants | Tron was definately the best of 2010 |
| 23:34.58 | ninnypants | Inception was really good though |
| 23:35.24 | josephscott | some of the ending was a bit weak for Tron, but still very good |
| 23:35.54 | herlo | josephscott: they left it open for a sequel |
| 23:36.09 | josephscott | oh yeah, clearly left tons of room for another one |
| 23:36.14 | herlo | :P |
| 23:37.32 | orsonj | heh, I picked up Inception on my way to work. |
| 23:38.53 | ninnypants | I didn't think Inception held up to what everyone was saying about it though... |
| 23:39.10 | herlo | holy hell, someone stole my leather jacket! |
| 23:39.39 | mindjuju | ??? |
| 23:39.42 | mindjuju | no way! |
| 23:39.44 | herlo | I accidentally left it in the bathroom at Beans and Brews on 5600 S 900 E |
| 23:39.52 | herlo | was sitting in the lobby working (as I am now) |
| 23:40.13 | herlo | realized it about 5 minutes ago and it's gone! Was probably about an hour since I left it in there... |
| 23:40.39 | herlo | who would steal my jacket? That's totally lame! |
| 23:40.47 | josephscott | ~lart theif |
| 23:40.47 | ibot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at theif |
| 23:40.51 | mindjuju | if you didn't see it walk by, then i'd ask management |
| 23:40.59 | herlo | I did already |
| 23:41.01 | josephscott | or thief :-) |
| 23:41.03 | herlo | don't have it |
| 23:41.04 | mindjuju | because some places have a door from the kitchen to the bathroom.. oh |
| 23:41.06 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart Jacket_Thief |
| 23:41.06 | ibot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to Jacket_Thief, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 23:41.07 | mindjuju | darn |
| 23:41.18 | herlo | josephscott: I like theif better, since they aren't proper |
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| 23:42.29 | josephscott | I am going to fix this darn bug, I think I'm finally getting closer |
| 23:42.53 | josephscott | irritating when software bugs don't just show themselves in an obvious way and allow me to smash them |
| 23:43.46 | herlo | I accidentally left my leather jacket in the bathroom at Beans and Brews on 5600 S 900 E while sitting in the lobby. Someone up and took it in the hour I was sitting here working. Management hasn't seen it, I'm PISSED!! |
| 23:43.50 | herlo | oops |
| 23:44.11 | josephscott | ~lart beans and brew |
| 23:44.11 | ibot | whips beans and brew with a wet and grimy noodle just because |
| 23:44.24 | josephscott | ~nuke beans and brew |
| 23:44.25 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at beans and brew ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 23:44.26 | herlo | josephscott: not b&b's fault |
| 23:44.46 | mindjuju | ~blame canada |
| 23:44.46 | ibot | ACTION blames canada (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 23:44.59 | mindjuju | oh good, double blame |
| 23:45.00 | herlo | heh |
| 23:45.06 | mgeary | ~like Canada |
| 23:45.06 | ibot | ACTION smooches Canada on the lips |
| 23:45.18 | mindjuju | ~blame canada for Celene Dijon |
| 23:45.18 | ibot | ACTION blames eggyknap and perhaps canada for Celene Dijon and the end of culture as we know it |
| 23:45.23 | josephscott | ibot and Canada sitting in a tree ... |
| 23:45.24 | ibot | ACTION drowns sitting in a tree ... in maple syrup, eh |
| 23:45.54 | mgeary | huh? |
| 23:46.04 | mgeary | ~and canada josephscott |
| 23:46.04 | ibot | ACTION drowns josephscott in maple syrup, eh |
| 23:46.12 | mgeary | ibot, you're a dork |
| 23:46.13 | ibot | I know you are but what am I? |
| 23:46.17 | herlo | lol |
| 23:46.19 | mindjuju | wow |
| 23:46.21 | josephscott | ~canada mgeary |
| 23:46.21 | ibot | ACTION drowns mgeary in maple syrup, eh |
| 23:46.22 | herlo | ~canada josephscott |
| 23:46.22 | ibot | ACTION drowns josephscott in maple syrup, eh |
| 23:46.45 | mindjuju | ~blame josephscott |
| 23:46.46 | ibot | ACTION blames josephscott (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 23:46.53 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:47.11 | herlo | ~blame mindjuju for herlo's missing leather jacket |
| 23:47.11 | ibot | ACTION blames fungus and perhaps mindjuju for herlo's missing leather jacket and the end of the Internet as we know it |
| 23:47.34 | mindjuju | curious |
| 23:48.13 | josephscott | ~curious mindjuju |
| 23:48.22 | josephscott | oh common |
| 23:49.31 | mindjuju | ugh, i need a thesaurus to convert half-a$$ed to something professional |
| 23:49.52 | mindjuju | ~thesaurus |
| 23:49.52 | ibot | well, thesaurus is a handy book of synonyms, silly! See the package perspic, which offers word searching of Roget's thesaurus. Other possibilities include wordnet and dict. a jurassic herbivour very fond of tea |
| 23:50.39 | josephscott | ~thesaurus lame |
| 23:51.07 | mindjuju | i thought about trying that, but then i'd have totype in the real word, and i thought that might be possibly nsfw |
| 23:51.26 | herlo | josephscott: common? don't you mean come on? |
| 23:51.40 | josephscott | yeah, forgot an ' in there |
| 23:51.41 | herlo | mindjuju: okay, I blame someone else for my jacket disappearing |
| 23:51.47 | herlo | asshole |
| 23:51.50 | josephscott | it's been that kind of a day |
| 23:51.53 | herlo | indeed |