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| 16:07.14 | mindjuju | morning all |
| 16:07.18 | TuxToaster | morning |
| 16:07.40 | mindjuju | ibot, give tuxtoaster a hot chocolate |
| 16:07.40 | ibot | ACTION gives a hot chocolate to tuxtoaster |
| 16:07.47 | TuxToaster | w00t |
| 16:07.58 | TuxToaster | sounds nice right about now :-) |
| 16:08.15 | mindjuju | no doubt, after scraping off a ton of frost off the car |
| 16:08.19 | mindjuju | my toes and fingers are cold |
| 16:09.13 | TuxToaster | I did that one earlier, now I'm in a cold office after having everyone get yelled at and called incompetent :/ |
| 16:09.22 | TuxToaster | has a very similar effect to frost. |
| 16:09.31 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 16:09.39 | mindjuju | sorry to hear thta |
| 16:10.00 | TuxToaster | meh, it happens. Trying to come up with ways to ensure that people's code gets better vetted. |
| 16:10.25 | TuxToaster | too many things get pushed live without proper checking, can cause a bunch of issues. |
| 16:10.28 | mindjuju | yeah, the ole whip always seems to help improve coding |
| 16:10.39 | mindjuju | ah, true that |
| 16:12.06 | TuxToaster | thinking having a local dev environment for each developer would help, then the only code that gets committed would be considered" ready and someone would have to merge changes, etc... the way it's *supposed* to be. |
| 16:12.27 | TuxToaster | but I've been suggesting that for two years now, has yet to get set up. |
| 16:12.53 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:12.54 | TuxToaster | (right now we commit *every* change to SVN, and our dev sandbox updates automatically from SVN) |
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| 16:58.17 | mindjuju | @herlo, you paged last week/ |
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| 18:07.59 | utahcon | Who wants to help me with wildcard sub-subdomains |
| 18:08.07 | utahcon | *.sub.tld.com |
| 18:08.09 | utahcon | ? |
| 18:12.58 | josephscott | utahcon: what sort of help? |
| 18:14.27 | mindjuju | i feel like an old cantankerous man watching this video about the thru-turn |
| 18:14.28 | mindjuju | http://www.udot.utah.gov/thruturn/ |
| 18:14.35 | mindjuju | i don't get it, i don't want to do it |
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| 18:15.12 | utahcon | mindjuju: I don't think it will help as much as they are thinking it will |
| 18:15.23 | mindjuju | yeah, it just sounds dumb to me |
| 18:15.30 | utahcon | that intersection (going across state street) has 2 turns lanes, they are going to reduce that to 1 u-turn? |
| 18:15.39 | utahcon | josephscott: I figured it out actually... but thanks! |
| 18:15.51 | utahcon | what I wanted was to have *.sub.domain.com work |
| 18:15.56 | utahcon | it was just that easy to setup in DNS |
| 18:16.05 | mindjuju | good to know |
| 18:17.28 | utahcon | josephscott: do you know if it would be best to setup sub.domain.com as an A and *.sub.domain.com as a CNAME? |
| 18:17.36 | utahcon | sub IN A 1.2.3.4 |
| 18:17.45 | utahcon | * IN CNAME sub |
| 18:17.47 | utahcon | something like that? |
| 18:18.02 | josephscott | mindjuju: hadn't seen that before, looks like horrible idea |
| 18:18.40 | josephscott | utahcon: if this is just for a web site either one should be fine |
| 18:18.50 | utahcon | cool |
| 18:18.50 | utahcon | thanks josephscott |
| 18:20.03 | josephscott | mindjuju: just drive past the turn you wanted to make, wait for another light, make a u-turn, wait at the back of the line for everyone else trying to get through the intersection, while waiting to make a right to finish the left hand turn that you passed up a few blocks back |
| 18:20.24 | josephscott | what could possibly go wrong? ;-) |
| 18:20.27 | mindjuju | see that's exactly it |
| 18:20.33 | TuxToaster | josephscott: famous last words |
| 18:20.41 | mindjuju | i get mad to think that they wasted my tax money thinking the idea up |
| 18:20.48 | mindjuju | wasted more money, drawing it up |
| 18:20.54 | mindjuju | wated more money putting it in flash |
| 18:21.01 | mindjuju | waste waste waste |
| 18:21.13 | josephscott | I don't use that intersection as much now that 11400 has freeway access |
| 18:21.32 | josephscott | mindjuju: "computer models" never lie :-| |
| 18:21.33 | utahcon | UDOT claims this kind of turn is successful elsewhere in the US, I want to know where so I can go try it. |
| 18:21.42 | mindjuju | i mean RD is necessary, but we need some of these ideas vetted before they get to far |
| 18:21.56 | josephscott | the single biggest problem, no one will know how to use this new intersection |
| 18:22.16 | josephscott | it's like building a website that doesn't use links to link to things, no one will know how to use it |
| 18:22.22 | utahcon | Will they put up "no left turn" signs? Will people recognize this and keep driving? |
| 18:23.10 | josephscott | assuming some number of people will try to turn left any way instead of going through, how many people will it take making that mistake to make this even worse? |
| 18:23.39 | josephscott | empowering an even tinier fraction of people to make a problem even worse sounds like a step in the wrong direction |
| 18:24.03 | mindjuju | i think we should just invest in teleporters |
| 18:24.21 | josephscott | april 2011, nuts, probably too late to get this stopped |
| 18:24.54 | josephscott | going to read up on this, may need to put on my "I'm a citizen, listen to me!" hat |
| 18:26.52 | josephscott | "The total price tag is $4 million, which in the world of road building, is a cost-effective solution." |
| 18:27.16 | josephscott | mindjuju we are in the wrong line of biz, in my world $4M is a big chunk of money |
| 18:27.17 | mindjuju | 4 mil to add bumps in the roads and 3 signal lights? |
| 18:27.23 | josephscott | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13747814 |
| 18:27.48 | josephscott | shoot, didn't realize I'd missed this http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=115979048460629&index=1 |
| 18:27.51 | josephscott | back in Oct |
| 18:29.21 | josephscott | they claim this is working all over the country, but Google search results show pretty much everything for through turn intersection is draper |
| 18:29.27 | utahcon | :w |
| 18:29.58 | DexterTheDragon | 'readonly' option set fo #uphpu |
| 18:30.05 | utahcon | lol |
| 18:30.05 | utahcon | thanks |
| 18:31.47 | mindjuju | to make matters worse, that area is the result of poor planning and people building in every nanometer possible |
| 18:32.13 | mindjuju | there isn't a hoot of parking for cafe rio or any other proprietor there, it's jacked up |
| 18:32.18 | josephscott | having the freeway right next to that spot isn't helping |
| 18:32.41 | josephscott | having 11400 cross the valley could help as well |
| 18:33.20 | josephscott | one reason 12300 is so busy is because it is one of the few east/west roads that goes across the valley (that far south) |
| 18:33.26 | utahcon | I like how you have to turn right, make a U turn, then turn right again, to access the free way |
| 18:33.29 | utahcon | that is smooth! |
| 18:34.10 | josephscott | yep, nothing like moving from the front of the line to the back in an effort to get where you are going |
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| 18:59.38 | ninnypants | I think the best part will come when they can't make the u turn at the light down the road and drivers at the light can't go through because of backed up trafic at the thru turn |
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| 20:42.10 | mindjuju | josephscott, did you see Tron? |
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| 20:54.29 | josephscott | mindjuju: not yet |
| 20:54.34 | josephscott | likely going on Wed. |
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| 20:58.31 | mindjuju | @josephscott, you'll love it |
| 20:58.54 | josephscott | mindjuju: hoping so :-) |
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| 21:18.51 | mindjuju | @josephscott, the only part of tron i didn't like is when all the hackers from around the world all get together and start to hack the gibson with viruses, etc, and then a phreaker shows up on the jumbotron tv exposing the nefarious plot |
| 21:19.21 | mindjuju | and then dombledorf hack the hogwarts firewall |
| 21:19.25 | mindjuju | that was bit far fetched |
| 21:20.55 | josephscott | lol! |
| 21:21.12 | mindjuju | k, i won't tease you with false spoilers anymore |
| 21:21.20 | mindjuju | unless i think of something REALLY snappy |
| 21:24.46 | mindjuju | one thing though that is real, is that the disney 3d seemed to be about half and half, half with 3d effect, half no |
| 21:24.55 | mindjuju | i don'tknow if imax 3d is all 3d all the time |
| 21:25.24 | mindjuju | beandog saw imax 3d, hemight know |
| 21:25.52 | mindjuju | the parts that were in 3d though, the 3d was like an exponent factor, it jumped it up several notches and was way cool |
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| 21:47.50 | josephscott | mindjuju: really? I generally avoid 3d versions, going old school with 2d :-) |
| 21:48.20 | mindjuju | DtD saw the normal 2d version |
| 21:48.25 | mindjuju | i'm sure its good too |
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| 22:33.12 | herlo | mindjuju: pong |
| 22:33.27 | mindjuju | i'm here, shoot |
| 22:33.35 | herlo | mindjuju: in #utos |
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