IRC log for #uphpu on 20101223

00:08.11beandogSunSparc, dude, you should totally send a form letter back.
00:08.43SunSparcHAH!!!
00:08.55SunSparcI should.
00:09.08SunSparcA blatant form letter.
00:09.45SunSparc"Dear <Senator Name Here>, Thank you for your blah blah letter that you..."
00:10.21mindjujubut attach his form letters too
00:13.19SunSparcHe probably never reads any of them.  I am sure his aids to it all.
00:22.50ninnypantsI'm tempted to write back asking for his references ;p
00:23.44SunSparc:)
00:24.27ninnypantsbut yeah the idea that our elected officals don't read their own mail seems rediculous
00:28.14SunSparcJason Chaffetz does.  He even responds to tweets.
00:28.20SunSparcHe is rockin.
00:28.47SunSparcmindjuju: That LotR Facebook was funny.  "Foraging for sticks FTL"
00:28.57mindjuju:)
00:33.10mindjuju~seen fungus
00:33.15ibotfungus <~olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 1d 2h 2m 59s ago, saying: 'good catch though.'.
00:48.49SunSparcNight all!
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03:57.50josephscottmindjuju: I think you were looking for something like this earlier : http://supervisord.org/
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03:57.56ibotsteals ChanServ's mojo
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16:04.01carmonybah
16:04.04carmonyI hate mysql right now
16:19.33mindjuju@carmony, maybe mysql doesn't like you so much either! :p
16:19.41mindjujuheh
16:21.20carmonylol
16:21.27carmonyddna has been going up and down all bloody night
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16:40.19TuxToasterweird question... anyone know of any weird issues with php updating the wrong item in an array?
16:40.24TuxToasterI'll try to put some context
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16:44.55TuxToasterhttp://pastie.org/private/huswgtyjg3hbsgwgew7q
16:45.07TuxToasterit's a weird, complex object, but this is more or less the issue
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16:45.42TuxToasterthere are other places where we insert into arrays like that and have no problem at all.... but some reason this one the items keep showing up under the wrong arrays
16:49.37TuxToasterif it helps, I wasn't hard setting [0] when inserting the item in the array, it's inside of a bunch of nested for loops
16:53.52mindjuju~seen synic
16:54.02ibotsynic <~squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-us-ut, 77d 22h 36m 55s ago, saying: 'look, nearn is kind of an idiot.  Give him a break!'.
16:55.44TuxToasteris there a way to tell if a variable is a pointer?
17:02.26mindjujuDtD
17:04.51TuxToasternice
17:05.29mindjuju@mgeary - the interwebs are a nebulous thing for some people - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg
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17:29.25beandogmindjuju, get to work
17:30.28TuxToasterso apparently... this sets a reference?  $RequestedTrips[$t]->Segment = $RequestedTrips[$t]->Segments[$seg];
17:30.41TuxToasteri.e. RequestedTrips is an array, as is Segments
17:30.58mgearywell, yeah
17:31.11mgearyany time you reference something in an array, you're getting a pointer, not a copy
17:31.28mgearyunless you explicitly make a copy
17:31.31TuxToasterI thought you had to explicitly use & to use a reference
17:31.46TuxToasterobviously it seems more efficient that PHP would use a reference
17:31.47mgearynot since php4, iirc
17:32.13TuxToasterbut the problem is if you then have two items in a separate array later that use that same value, those both are references
17:32.20TuxToasterhow do you explicitly copy?
17:32.48beandoghttp://php.net/manual/en/language.references.php
17:33.11beandoghttp://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.assignment.php
17:33.18TuxToasterwas just reading the references page :-)
17:33.24beandogoh okay
17:33.26TuxToasterthat's where I found an awesome is_ref function
17:33.46beandogphp has some nice functions
17:33.59TuxToasterand I get that $a = &$b would make a reference
17:34.25TuxToasterbut if I do $a = $b, and then set $b to 20, I don't expect $a to then become 20 also
17:34.51TuxToastersimilarly, if I do equestedTrips[$t]->Segment = $RequestedTrips[$t]->Segments[$seg];  I wouldn't expect changes to ->Segment to show up in ->Segments[1]
17:35.00TuxToasterbut that seems to be what is happening
17:35.53beandogI use =& when passing by ref
17:35.57beandoger, assigning by ref.
17:36.10beandogsomething changed in php5.  Dont remember what.  I dont use them often enough to really notice.
17:36.28TuxToasterI believe PHP5 changed how you pass function params by ref
17:36.50TuxToasterbut the thing I'm hitting here is I'm NOT trying to reference, but it still is
17:37.45beandogah.
17:38.02beandogdunno.
17:38.31TuxToasterhttp://pastie.org/private/huswgtyjg3hbsgwgew7q  <---- it's outputting like the bottom of this
17:38.35TuxToasteryeah it's weird.
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19:43.43PoeticIntensityI can't believe they're making me work today.
19:46.57TuxToasterdo you have to work tomorrow or Saturday?
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19:51.20PoeticIntensitynah...
19:51.26PoeticIntensitybored stiff here at work, though.
19:51.30TuxToastercould be worse then ;-)
19:51.47PoeticIntensityyup...  always could be.
19:52.00TuxToasteralmost would've had to work tomorrow but then they decided we'll get that off but work on the 31st.
19:52.56PoeticIntensitywell, that sucks.
19:53.46TuxToasteryup.
19:54.21TuxToasterstill, better than working retail and having to work OT on the holiday.
19:54.32TuxToasteralthough the pay for that was usually pretty good ;-)
19:55.57PoeticIntensity(nod)
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21:03.58mindjujupoeticintensity, you around?
21:10.19PoeticIntensitybarely
21:10.24PoeticIntensityone sec... brb
21:10.29mindjujusupa quick question on math then
21:10.46mindjujua telephone call recorded at 1 hour length and compressed to 8kbps
21:10.54mindjujuthat file is about 4mb isn't it?
21:11.04PoeticIntensitysounds about right
21:11.13mindjujuk, just needed a pro to check mymath
21:11.14mindjujuthx!
21:11.18PoeticIntensityyup.
21:11.21mindjuju~poeticintensity++
21:11.25PoeticIntensityyay!
21:11.28orsonj8*60*60/1024
21:11.31PoeticIntensitynow I gotta boot into windows...
21:11.49mgearymindjuju: i hope you're not in Illinois!
21:11.56mindjujuhuh?
21:12.07mindjujuis it snowing over there?
21:12.18mgeary'cause it's a 2-party notification state for recording of conversations
21:12.23mindjujuoh oh
21:12.24mindjujugotcha
21:12.32mgearyclass 1 felony
21:12.35mgeary;)
21:12.41mindjujuactually, the company will need to put up a disclaimer on the IVR to notify
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22:51.36mgeary~rlart
22:51.36ibotbreaks out the Hoover and sucks up jkr801
22:51.50josephscott~rlart
22:51.50ibotputs tierra through a wood chipper
23:20.12mgearyromanovic-afk: ping
23:20.23mgearyromanovic-afk: hit/email me when you get this

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