| 00:01.03 | tierra | working on fixing one feature of it for now that relies on register_globals being on (not the line I just copied), and unlike the rest of the pages, it doesn't manually register globals when it's off, so it just breaks |
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| 00:01.52 | ninnypants | I thought it had that hack for registering globals if globals where disabled |
| 00:03.48 | tierra | it does, but it's only included in the templates for the frontend... the backend administration doesn't include that code |
| 00:04.06 | tierra | (but still is written for register_globals == On) |
| 00:04.45 | ninnypants | from what I've seen of that code it has some 1337 h4x ;) |
| 00:05.03 | tierra | totally |
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| 02:33.13 | stderr | d/win 11 |
| 02:38.29 | herlo | ~laugh stderr |
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| 03:52.24 | beandog | what are you doing with REST |
| 04:04.33 | herlo | beandog: hay! |
| 04:05.10 | beandog | o hai |
| 04:05.42 | herlo | beandog: you do stuff with REST? |
| 04:06.02 | herlo | beandog: just trying to build a simple authenticated rest query |
| 04:06.16 | beandog | herlo: hows it coming? |
| 04:06.38 | herlo | problem is, I can't seem to figure out how to pass the "I am authenticated" part properly |
| 04:07.07 | herlo | I successfully authed, but no dice on running the next command |
| 04:07.30 | beandog | Oh okay |
| 04:07.33 | beandog | never used auth before |
| 04:07.40 | herlo | beandog: essentially, I am working on powering on and off virtual machines using an existing RESTful API |
| 04:07.51 | beandog | oh ok |
| 04:07.58 | herlo | but I'm having no luck :( |
| 04:08.06 | beandog | what method are you using for auth |
| 04:08.35 | herlo | POST |
| 04:08.46 | herlo | oh no, that's not waht you asked |
| 04:08.55 | herlo | well, I'm writing this in python |
| 04:09.17 | herlo | but i've tried both urllib2 and httplib2 with limited success |
| 04:09.18 | beandog | I mean what http authentication method |
| 04:09.48 | herlo | well, it passes json |
| 04:09.52 | herlo | over ssl |
| 04:10.07 | beandog | oh okies |
| 04:10.23 | herlo | it'd be nice if it were something like Basic Auth, but I honestly don't know |
| 04:10.24 | beandog | but you still need an authentication method in the http headers, dont you? |
| 04:10.39 | beandog | yah basic auth should be fine |
| 04:11.06 | herlo | beandog: This method is required to be called prior to calling any other method exposed by the Tier3 API. This method validates your credentials and writes the Encrypted cookie required to be present for all subsequent calls into the API. |
| 04:11.17 | beandog | Oh okay |
| 04:11.18 | herlo | so I get a cookie back |
| 04:11.27 | beandog | herlo: well youre already a bit past my area of experience |
| 04:11.29 | herlo | but I can't figure out how to pass it to the next method |
| 04:11.38 | beandog | the cookie? |
| 04:11.41 | herlo | beandog: you should know more! |
| 04:11.43 | beandog | it should be stored in your local http session |
| 04:11.46 | herlo | beandog: yeah! |
| 04:11.47 | beandog | I should. |
| 04:11.50 | beandog | I have a book on it at work |
| 04:11.54 | herlo | beandog: except http is *stateless* |
| 04:11.58 | beandog | Yah |
| 04:11.58 | herlo | so it doesn't remember |
| 04:12.02 | beandog | but cookies are stored locally. |
| 04:12.07 | herlo | thus, I have to caputre it and push it back up |
| 04:12.08 | herlo | yes, I know |
| 04:12.12 | beandog | and http server has sessions |
| 04:12.16 | beandog | session states |
| 04:12.21 | herlo | no, it really doesn't |
| 04:12.24 | herlo | that's al ie |
| 04:12.28 | herlo | or a lie even |
| 04:12.40 | herlo | sessions are managed by a service behind http |
| 04:12.45 | herlo | http is *stateless* |
| 04:12.47 | beandog | yah |
| 04:12.59 | beandog | which is why I thought youd be passing http-auth with each request. |
| 04:13.07 | herlo | so the cookie needs to be passed each time I am doing something that requires it |
| 04:13.13 | herlo | not auth |
| 04:13.18 | beandog | uh |
| 04:13.19 | herlo | I thought that originally too |
| 04:13.20 | beandog | could be. |
| 04:13.23 | beandog | oh okay |
| 04:13.39 | herlo | This method validates your credentials and writes the Encrypted cookie required to be present for all subsequent calls into the API <-- this says the cookie must be there |
| 04:14.18 | beandog | huh |
| 04:14.21 | herlo | so when I call something with the api, I just need to pass the cookie too. However, I don't know how to address the cookie |
| 04:14.36 | herlo | and make the httplib recognize a cookie |
| 04:15.04 | beandog | buh |
| 04:15.06 | beandog | sorry, mon. |
| 04:15.10 | beandog | rest is cool tho :) |
| 04:15.37 | herlo | yeah |
| 04:15.47 | herlo | I think once I get this, I'll scream it from the rooftops |
| 04:16.08 | beandog | I would just eat a cookie. |
| 04:16.12 | herlo | haha |
| 04:16.56 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/articles/cookielib.shtml |
| 04:17.29 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: readit, don't understand it |
| 04:17.46 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: if you can explain it, I would be appreciative |
| 04:18.06 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: it seems overly complex for what I am trying to accomplish |
| 04:18.30 | DexterTheDragon | yeah was just looking at the code |
| 04:18.44 | DexterTheDragon | it does look complex all for just getting cookie passing to work |
| 04:19.12 | herlo | indeed. I'm sure it handles all of the edge cases, which is fine, but seems wasteful and confusing |
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| 05:19.52 | josephscott | Lifehacker, Gizmodo, Gawker, Jezebel, |
| 05:19.52 | josephscott | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.00 | josephscott | the list of gawker media compromised sites |
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| 06:14.38 | beandog | mindjuju: o hai |
| 06:14.55 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUyTZlJnRns&NR=1 |
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| 07:16.30 | mgeary | hi folks. I have a situation where i'm either not understanding something, or lxml.html isn't reading the charset of some HTML properly |
| 07:16.39 | mgeary | oops. meant to post to #python |
| 07:16.42 | mgeary | ignore me :) |
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| 09:09.02 | influx | Successfully installed SVN and WebSVN on my server. |
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| 17:32.55 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 17:32.56 | ibot | runs at herlo with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
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| 19:13.36 | herlo | josephscott: haha |
| 19:13.58 | josephscott | paper cuts can be serious :-) |
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| 19:51.45 | influx | http://www.dump.com/2010/12/13/the-vendor-client-relationship-in-real-world-situations-video/ |
| 19:58.15 | mgeary | that's so 6 months ago, influx |
| 19:58.52 | SunSparc | But still so accurate. |
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| 20:14.05 | josephscott | I like how he asks his name and then immediately gets it wrong :-) |
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| 20:21.11 | mindjuju | ~lart Utahcon |
| 20:21.11 | ibot | takes a big bite out of Utahcon's jugular vein |
| 20:25.35 | SunSparc | So, nginx vs node.js, fight! |
| 20:26.08 | SunSparc | Equal competition or best used for specific tasks? |
| 20:27.27 | utahcon | hey mindjuju |
| 20:27.57 | mindjuju | @sunsparc, i prefer LOGO for my server side needs |
| 20:28.09 | mindjuju | sup utahcon |
| 20:28.13 | mindjuju | what you been up to? |
| 20:28.15 | utahcon | nothing |
| 20:28.22 | mindjuju | aint heard from ya in a while |
| 20:28.24 | utahcon | just remembered that life exists in IRC |
| 20:29.14 | SunSparc | mindjuju: lol |
| 20:29.30 | SunSparc | ~turtle mindjuju |
| 20:30.45 | josephscott | ~spice IRC |
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| 21:40.19 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: Tiesto vs Diplo vs Candi Staton - C'mon With The Love http://soundcloud.com/nic-briel/tiesto-vs-diplo-vs-candi-staton-cmon-with-the-love-nic-briels-mashup-1 |
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| 22:50.57 | beandog | uphpu is failing to provide an effective distraction from work |
| 22:51.03 | beandog | mindjuju, fix it! |
| 22:52.06 | josephscott | ~lart beandog |
| 22:52.06 | ibot | drops a truckload of VAXen on beandog |
| 22:52.12 | josephscott | ~lart distractions |
| 22:52.12 | ibot | rm -rf's distractions |
| 22:56.36 | mindjuju | [beandog@server /]# entertain: command not found |
| 22:57.24 | mindjuju | @beandog, congrats on your B, btw |
| 22:59.20 | beandog | mindjuju, yarr |
| 22:59.54 | mindjuju | i myself just took all my pols 1100 tests all in one throw this morning |
| 23:00.01 | beandog | how was it |
| 23:00.23 | mindjuju | curiously, 81 on test one 83 on test two and 85 on the final |
| 23:00.30 | beandog | right on |
| 23:02.12 | mindjuju | i'm in the process of polishing up some papers and then pow! that class all done |
| 23:02.36 | mindjuju | finals in bio, math and CS tonight, tomorrow and thrus respectively |
| 23:02.41 | mindjuju | and then i'm done |
| 23:03.00 | orsonj | I'm taking PRG310 (which is ASP.net) and the final project is a 2-4 page paper. |
| 23:03.21 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 23:03.47 | orsonj | I haven't written more than a page of ASP code in this class. |
| 23:05.54 | orsonj | Immensly dissapointed. I even went to the trouble of buying a shared MS server so I wouldn't have to be dual booting. Only used it for one assignment. |
| 23:06.37 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 23:06.48 | orsonj | but $30 bucks for the duration of the class isn't that bad. |
| 23:07.09 | mindjuju | my CS prof that taught me c# had this mean streak in him. he'd make you code pages write there on the test, no comp, no visual studio |
| 23:07.15 | mindjuju | just you and your pencil and paper |
| 23:07.22 | mindjuju | oh, and class notes |
| 23:07.38 | mindjuju | i forgot that, so it wasn't SO bad, but my hand was always warped by the end of the test |
| 23:12.01 | beandog | sounds fun |
| 23:21.55 | beandog | have you guys heard about sharepoint |
| 23:22.03 | mindjuju | heh |
| 23:22.16 | mindjuju | ~sharepoint |
| 23:22.16 | ibot | [sharepoint] a wiki, with a hefty serving of f*cked up |
| 23:22.20 | beandog | a co-worker was just telilng me about it, I have no idea what it is |
| 23:22.22 | beandog | oh |
| 23:22.23 | beandog | a wiki. |
| 23:22.27 | beandog | rly? |
| 23:22.33 | mindjuju | oh no |
| 23:22.38 | mindjuju | sharepoint is more than a wiki |
| 23:22.47 | mindjuju | it's like a wiki done upside down and backwards |
| 23:22.53 | mindjuju | that only works when it decides |
| 23:23.09 | mindjuju | it routinely gives the flip to sys admins the world over |
| 23:23.15 | beandog | yah? |
| 23:23.26 | mindjuju | oh yeah |
| 23:23.33 | beandog | huh |
| 23:23.39 | mindjuju | i spent like 3 days trying to recover one |
| 23:23.43 | beandog | what would a comparable software program be |
| 23:23.52 | mindjuju | funny that you ask |
| 23:24.17 | mindjuju | at the end of 3 days, i was able to get enough functionality that the pages rendered so that I could screen cap -> mediawiki |
| 23:24.41 | mindjuju | and then i blasted the server from orbit (it's the only way to be sure!) |
| 23:25.10 | beandog | buh |
| 23:25.16 | beandog | mindjuju, what were they using it for |
| 23:25.28 | mindjuju | a wiki and a document server |
| 23:25.39 | beandog | THe way he described it, it does some kind of filesystem management too |
| 23:25.41 | beandog | or something |
| 23:25.48 | beandog | document server, that sounds like an accurate description. |
| 23:25.50 | mindjuju | now, that said, i was in the process of downloading alfresco and launching that here |
| 23:26.00 | josephscott | no one likes sharepoint |
| 23:26.08 | mindjuju | yeah, doc server / file server / etc |
| 23:26.10 | josephscott | I've never, ever, ever found anyone that likes it |
| 23:26.39 | beandog | intresting. |
| 23:27.03 | mindjuju | @beandog, take note of what josephscott says, "nobody likes..." and he's the nicest guy this side of the Pecos river |
| 23:27.09 | mindjuju | and if he no likey... |
| 23:27.31 | josephscott | the only thing I can figure is that the people who buy it aren't the ones who have to manage/use it |
| 23:27.52 | beandog | huh |
| 23:27.53 | beandog | Okay |
| 23:28.06 | mindjuju | now, about alfresco, i've heard some great things |
| 23:28.18 | mindjuju | but i haven't logged any miles in it, so i don't know for sure |
| 23:28.36 | ninnypants | are images with alt text ok to replace text in the navigation or are they a no no? |
| 23:28.44 | beandog | I need some pretty dancing animation video to explain to me what this software even does |
| 23:28.58 | Utah_Dave | I did some contract work for some guys who were HUGE microsoft fans. Big into their Communicator stuff. |
| 23:29.14 | Utah_Dave | They set up a Sharepoint server for everyone to use and it was going to be SOOOO awesome. |
| 23:29.18 | Utah_Dave | It was teh suck |
| 23:29.26 | beandog | yah? |
| 23:29.27 | mindjuju | http://www.alfresco.com/ |
| 23:30.01 | beandog | Ooh it does simple version control. THat could be handy. |
| 23:30.28 | beandog | Interfaces for CIFS, WebDAV and FTP |
| 23:30.35 | beandog | REST architecture |
| 23:30.44 | beandog | Zero-footprint clients |
| 23:30.50 | beandog | I like already |