| 00:06.05 | stderr | let me please introduce myself, I'm a maan of wealth and taste |
| 00:08.21 | mgeary | isn't it "please allow me to introduce myself..." |
| 00:09.14 | mgeary | interestingly, i don't have the RS version |
| 00:09.16 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 00:09.16 | ibot | puts eco through a wood chipper |
| 00:09.50 | beandog | er |
| 00:09.59 | beandog | whut |
| 00:10.58 | eco | ibot is a dick |
| 00:11.22 | josephscott | ~save eco |
| 00:11.22 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves eco from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 00:11.54 | eco | Now he's saying I'm too stupid to stay out of burning buildings...what the hell? |
| 00:12.04 | mgeary | ibot is a she |
| 00:12.12 | beandog | ~gender |
| 00:12.13 | ibot | I'm female |
| 00:12.18 | beandog | mgeary, LIES |
| 00:12.28 | beandog | oh, wait. |
| 00:12.52 | mgeary | how can you read that wrong?! |
| 00:13.01 | mgeary | ~fail beandog |
| 00:13.01 | ibot | beandog: FAIL! |
| 00:13.06 | mgeary | that's two for you today, beandog |
| 00:13.08 | mgeary | i've got my eye on you |
| 00:13.10 | beandog | whose counting? |
| 00:13.17 | beandog | ~poke mgeary in the eye |
| 00:13.17 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind mgeary in the eye, pokes mgeary in the eye repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 00:13.31 | josephscott | ~jedi beandog |
| 00:13.31 | ibot | ACTION zaps beandog with her Jedi powers |
| 00:13.44 | beandog | buh |
| 00:13.46 | beandog | wheres the love |
| 00:13.52 | mgeary | ~admire beandog |
| 00:13.52 | ibot | ACTION secretly and androgynously wishes it were just like beandog |
| 00:14.11 | beandog | androgynously? |
| 00:14.14 | josephscott | ~woot |
| 00:14.14 | ibot | \o/ |
| 00:14.22 | mgeary | well, there was indeed some confusion about gender at the time |
| 00:14.35 | beandog | lol |
| 00:14.36 | josephscott | ~confuse ibot |
| 00:14.36 | ibot | yes them was my hamster yesterday ? |
| 00:14.38 | beandog | ~wiki androgyny |
| 00:14.56 | beandog | bah. |
| 00:15.44 | mgeary | ~define androgynous |
| 00:15.45 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 00:16.28 | mgeary | your mom is androgynous |
| 00:17.06 | beandog | ~gender your mom |
| 00:17.06 | ibot | I heard your mom is female. |
| 00:17.37 | beandog | ~mom |
| 00:17.37 | ibot | no, beandog, I'm not your mother |
| 00:17.41 | beandog | lol |
| 00:18.24 | mgeary | ~mother |
| 00:18.24 | ibot | mother are you my mother? |
| 00:18.32 | mgeary | ~mother beandog |
| 00:19.08 | beandog | ~gender mgeary |
| 00:19.09 | ibot | I heard mgeary is female. |
| 00:19.17 | mgeary | shh. don't tell my wife |
| 00:19.20 | beandog | ~mgeary |
| 00:19.20 | ibot | hmm... mgeary is Michael Geary, residing in Provo and working in Orem. a Flash Weenie. NOT this dude: http://www.panchang.com/aboutus/?tab=200&contentid=127, or a person who does not believe vinegar is a condiment |
| 00:19.52 | mgeary | man, i should have spruced up my factoid before locking it down |
| 00:20.12 | mindjuju | i was going to say, i remember your factoid differently |
| 00:20.17 | beandog | spruced up? |
| 00:20.34 | mgeary | well, i mean, geeze, look at thebigdog |
| 00:20.37 | mgeary | ~thebigdog |
| 00:20.37 | ibot | well, thebigdog is the postgreSQL guru, a GWAR groupie, or secretly loves AOL, or a lover of cursors, or now 35, or Frank Black, or looooves MSSQL databases, or the shizzle |
| 00:20.47 | mgeary | okay, well, um, look at macnewbold |
| 00:20.49 | beandog | thats full of win |
| 00:20.49 | mgeary | ~macnewbold |
| 00:20.50 | ibot | macnewbold is, like, a nice person, or very good in stew, or never wrong |
| 00:20.52 | mgeary | hrm |
| 00:20.55 | mgeary | alright, well whatever |
| 00:20.58 | beandog | ~wps |
| 00:20.58 | ibot | it has been said that wps is Mr. Sexy Pants |
| 00:21.06 | mindjuju | mac has totally cleaned up his |
| 00:21.10 | beandog | ~carmony |
| 00:21.11 | ibot | from memory, carmony is in love with memcache, is a dot net developer and admits it, and codes for the iPhone |
| 00:21.22 | beandog | ~fungus |
| 00:21.22 | ibot | well, fungus is Kinda smelly, but grows on you, or a ASCII guru, or an Okra fan, or the new hawtness, or a hip |
| 00:21.34 | beandog | ~jsmith |
| 00:21.34 | ibot | well, jsmith is perpetually hungry, or the co-author of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony |
| 00:21.37 | beandog | ~josephscott |
| 00:21.48 | beandog | Just about everyone's is more interesting than mgeary |
| 00:21.55 | beandog | ~eggyknap |
| 00:21.58 | mindjuju | ~DexterTheDragon |
| 00:22.00 | mgeary | yes, though it's still a pretty low bar |
| 00:22.05 | beandog | ~stderr |
| 00:22.06 | ibot | from memory, stderr is program 1>stdout.log 2>stderr.log, or dataw0lf |
| 00:22.17 | beandog | ~PoeticIntensity |
| 00:22.17 | ibot | i guess poeticintensity is the proud owner of a Black 2007 Mustang GT. not Poetic, although he can be Intense, or sporting a mohawk, or rumored to be a sound engineer, or the fastest drivin geek in utah |
| 00:22.50 | beandog | ibot, josephscott is unknowable |
| 00:22.50 | ibot | beandog: okay |
| 00:23.08 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, so did you run into anyone today? |
| 00:23.17 | beandog | har har har |
| 00:26.10 | stderr | ~dataw0lf |
| 00:26.10 | ibot | it has been said that dataw0lf is sleeping again, or da supahstah, or a dink, or #utah's number one troll, or known by his full title: dataw0lf, Destroyer of Newbies, Troll of the Seas of IRC, God of All that is Technical, etc, etc, or a lamer as per "~nickometer dataw0lf", or stderr, the proud owner of a Hello Kitty themed eMachine, or ehl oh ehl, or a guy who likes to bash stuff, or a guy who needs help in general |
| 00:26.23 | stderr | pretty much |
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| 05:55.45 | knuckleheadTech | mindjuju: hello |
| 05:56.33 | knuckleheadTech | you are requested to come to #utos |
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| 17:02.17 | mindjuju1 | @thebigdog - what's up with GWAR disemboweling Sarah Palin? <language warning> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6VCQgA9FnI </language warning> |
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| 17:32.27 | PoeticIntensity | ~oatmeal |
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| 17:56.51 | thebigdog | mindjuju: gwar's in the house!!! |
| 17:57.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:57.15 | mindjuju | did you watch the vid? |
| 17:57.50 | mindjuju | i guess gwar doesn't like lady gaga, there is a video on youtube about her |
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| 18:06.30 | thebigdog | i did not watch the video |
| 18:06.46 | thebigdog | but i would awesome since they are aliens that they hate all humans |
| 18:10.10 | mgeary | anyone here really comfortable with Amazon S3 ACLs? |
| 18:15.19 | PoeticIntensity | I'm comfortable behind a drum set.... |
| 18:15.21 | PoeticIntensity | Does that help? |
| 18:19.09 | _psychic_ | mgeary: I've just use client programs that set perms |
| 18:22.30 | mgeary | we're using encoding.com to standardize uploaded videos, it then drops them into an S3 bucket. However, it's mangling the permissions. |
| 18:23.00 | mgeary | the weird thing is, the permissions are so mangled that no S3 admin tool seems able to allow me to manually change the perms |
| 18:23.18 | mgeary | so, yes, PoeticIntensity, that helps a great deal ;) |
| 18:24.21 | PoeticIntensity | nothin' but love, brother! |
| 18:41.23 | PoeticIntensity | what up, jsmith ? |
| 18:42.22 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Hanging out in Raleigh, NC today |
| 18:42.38 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Drove down this morning for some meetings, and now I'm free for the next hour or so |
| 18:42.51 | mindjuju | lart jsmith |
| 18:42.56 | mindjuju | ~lart jsmith |
| 18:42.56 | ibot | rm -rf's jsmith |
| 18:42.59 | PoeticIntensity | right on. It's always good to see ya around. |
| 18:43.05 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart mindjuju |
| 18:43.05 | ibot | teaches mindjuju that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 18:43.18 | mindjuju | ~nosepick poeticintensity |
| 18:43.19 | ibot | ACTION plucks poeticintensity out of the nose of humanity and flicks him out the window! |
| 18:43.24 | PoeticIntensity | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 18:43.24 | ibot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 18:43.41 | mindjuju | dag! |
| 18:43.43 | PoeticIntensity | ~dhit mindjuju |
| 18:43.44 | ibot | ACTION manages to land Gentoo Install Time on mindjuju, freezing him for days |
| 18:43.53 | PoeticIntensity | hehehe.... |
| 18:43.58 | mindjuju | ~bdhit pi |
| 18:43.58 | ibot | ACTION slaps the diviner's tin avalanche on pi |
| 18:44.24 | PoeticIntensity | see.... "pi" just loses the savor of the lart..... |
| 18:44.36 | PoeticIntensity | not using a client with auto-complete, mindjuju ? |
| 18:44.42 | PoeticIntensity | ~taunt mindjuju |
| 18:44.42 | ibot | ACTION taunts mindjuju a second time |
| 18:44.51 | mindjuju | i am, i just forget about it |
| 18:46.40 | PoeticIntensity | I need some youtube goodness... |
| 18:46.42 | PoeticIntensity | any ideas? |
| 18:47.15 | mindjuju | like for music or for funny? |
| 18:49.53 | PoeticIntensity | either. |
| 18:50.06 | mindjuju | here is some good music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmwM_AKeMCk&t=0m35s |
| 18:50.12 | mindjuju | 100% no rick roll guarantee |
| 18:50.46 | mindjuju | at 3.5 million viewers i'm not sure how i missed this before |
| 18:50.59 | mindjuju | it's got a great drum player |
| 18:51.02 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, man. |
| 18:51.33 | mindjuju | there is always this if you didn't like that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouG4GpL1-I |
| 18:51.47 | mindjuju | in fact, you might prefer the second link better |
| 18:56.47 | PoeticIntensity | Dude.... you got some weird links... :) |
| 18:56.59 | mindjuju | you didn't like the musical my little ponies? |
| 18:57.18 | PoeticIntensity | still cringing.... |
| 18:57.33 | mindjuju | its better than rickroll cause it scars your brain |
| 18:57.43 | mindjuju | you'll be thinking about it at odd times of the day and night |
| 18:57.54 | mindjuju | ponies, dancing ponies, dancing and singing ponies |
| 18:58.37 | mindjuju | k, i've got to get back to work, but if you need some brain bleach, i can give ya some baby anne breaks |
| 18:59.27 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i329LhgEptc |
| 18:59.43 | PoeticIntensity | (scantily clad pic, but great trance song) |
| 19:00.57 | mindjuju | it is good |
| 19:01.11 | PoeticIntensity | love this stuff. |
| 19:01.59 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity: technoviking - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2fLg52wJgM |
| 19:05.08 | orsonj | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html |
| 19:05.29 | orsonj | Live stream of new astrobiology stuff |
| 19:05.37 | DexterTheDragon | they announcing aliens? |
| 19:06.23 | orsonj | arsenic based life forms |
| 19:06.39 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUd75mo3910&feature=related |
| 19:06.43 | mindjuju | @DtD, apparently the face shadow on Mars was talking |
| 19:06.52 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 19:07.47 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity: did you like technoviking? |
| 19:09.21 | PoeticIntensity | video was entertaining. |
| 19:09.30 | mindjuju | love that song |
| 19:09.31 | PoeticIntensity | music was too "pop"-ish |
| 19:09.38 | mindjuju | NO waqy |
| 19:09.44 | mindjuju | way // really? |
| 19:09.47 | mindjuju | too popish? |
| 19:09.48 | PoeticIntensity | But, I'm really into the slower ethereal trance... |
| 19:10.11 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... It's almost like asian-techno. |
| 19:10.36 | mindjuju | ah, understand now, yeah, i need the higher beat count or i start to fall asleep |
| 19:11.25 | mindjuju | baby anne dark side of the boom prolly equivalent of 2 red bulls (i'm guessing here, never had energy drink) |
| 19:24.00 | DexterTheDragon | of that top 10 vocal trance list, I'd only stick with 9 and 5 |
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| 20:41.11 | SunSparc | Any PHP devs need a job? |
| 20:44.46 | macnewbold | that reminds me - skullcandy is looking for a few good people - one an intern-level position helping out with sysadmin and web-dev related tasks - probably part time, $10/hr or something, |
| 20:45.01 | macnewbold | and an html/css person, ideally with some JS/ JQuery knowledge |
| 20:45.13 | macnewbold | if you know anyone looking for such positions, let me know |
| 20:45.20 | macnewbold | or have them contact me |
| 20:45.27 | mindjuju | and let you get the referral bonus? |
| 20:45.29 | mindjuju | ha! |
| 20:45.47 | mindjuju | jk, dont know if there is one |
| 20:46.04 | macnewbold | if you send them to me, i might be able to arrange something |
| 20:46.58 | josephscott | ~arrange macnewbold |
| 20:47.08 | josephscott | ~rearrange macnewbold |
| 20:48.24 | macnewbold | ~referralbonus josephscott |
| 20:48.28 | mindjuju | so, I'm trying to install mod_access.so, and I said to yum, yum whatprovides mod_access.so and yum says, no matches found but that if i say instead yum whatprovides "*/mod_access.so" it might could find something |
| 20:48.58 | mindjuju | some how, my spidey sense tells me that may not be the best idea |
| 20:49.50 | mindjuju | is that a file that i can just grab from one server and move to another? |
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| 20:50.26 | DexterTheDragon | yum whatprovides mod_access ? |
| 20:51.09 | mindjuju | that also brings up no matches (mod_access.so v mod_access) |
| 20:51.48 | DexterTheDragon | "In 2.2, the equivalent of this module is now named mod_authz_host." |
| 20:52.04 | mindjuju | k, where in the world did you see that? |
| 20:52.15 | mindjuju | cause i was totally searching before coming here |
| 20:52.22 | DexterTheDragon | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_access.html |
| 20:52.35 | mindjuju | i thought that didn't count because it is for apache 1.3 |
| 20:52.47 | DexterTheDragon | looks like it might still be in 2.0, what version of apache are you using? |
| 20:53.00 | mindjuju | httpd -v |
| 20:53.03 | mindjuju | grr! |
| 20:53.15 | mindjuju | apache 2.2.3 |
| 20:54.00 | DexterTheDragon | so you probably want to look into http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authz_host.html |
| 20:54.30 | mindjuju | curiouser and curiouser |
| 20:54.37 | mindjuju | look what i found |
| 20:54.38 | mindjuju | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_access.html |
| 20:54.55 | mindjuju | and funny, the server i'm upgrading from, has apache 2.0.52 |
| 20:55.02 | mindjuju | and the new one is 223 |
| 20:55.29 | mindjuju | so that's why, thus DtD authz is way to go! |
| 20:55.39 | mindjuju | ~DexterTheDragon++ |
| 20:57.50 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: httpd -M should tell you if that module is compiled into apache or not |
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| 21:10.15 | PoeticIntensity | ~DexterTheDragon++ |
| 21:10.25 | PoeticIntensity | I like helpful people. :) |
| 21:14.01 | mindjuju | thx! |
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| 21:21.25 | carmony_ | josephscott: hrm... do you remember the title that we came up with here for that Redis talk I was thinking about? |
| 21:22.12 | josephscott | not off the top of my head, are the channel logs searchable? |
| 21:22.15 | josephscott | ~logs |
| 21:22.15 | ibot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily, or the log URL is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/ |
| 21:22.42 | josephscott | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site:http://ibot.rikers.org/%2523uphpu/+redis |
| 21:23.04 | josephscott | josephscott: after this though, I'm going to write up a presentation about this whole process, and call it: "MySQL, Redis, and 500 Million Rows - A NoSQL Love Story" |
| 21:23.14 | carmony_ | ah |
| 21:23.16 | carmony_ | awesome |
| 21:23.18 | josephscott | cool, I just call it "A Love Story" and drop the NoSQL reference |
| 21:23.19 | carmony_ | I <3 google |
| 21:23.20 | carmony_ | yeah |
| 21:23.29 | josephscott | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/20101105.html.gz |
| 21:23.47 | josephscott | DexterTheDragoncarmony: "a new term for a SQL/NoSQL combo: "data-mullet." Business in the front, party in the back!" |
| 21:25.02 | josephscott | carmony_: if you really wanted to go "out there" then bolt on http://josephscott.org/archives/2010/11/php-sql-parser/ to the front of redis to provide basic SQL access |
| 21:25.39 | josephscott | and my vote for a title was ""MySQL, Redis, and 500 Million Rows - A Love Story" |
| 21:25.56 | jsmith | josephscott: Data-mullet! I love it! |
| 21:26.24 | josephscott | credit DexterTheDragon for that one, I was just quoting the logs :-) |
| 21:27.29 | josephscott | carmony_: were you able to work more on getting redis into production then? |
| 21:28.18 | mindjuju | carmony_ you around? |
| 21:30.07 | carmony_ | mindjuju: kinda :P |
| 21:30.09 | mindjuju | @carmony_ @josephscott @fungus , would using worker in Apache be a better user of resources in a multicore server ? |
| 21:30.19 | mindjuju | @DtD |
| 21:30.29 | fungus | Yes |
| 21:30.38 | mindjuju | Yippee! i understood right! |
| 21:30.51 | fungus | but beware of any possible consequences of using a worker mpm in apache |
| 21:31.05 | fungus | Eg. possible non-thread safe PHP modules |
| 21:31.10 | mindjuju | oh |
| 21:31.16 | josephscott | thread safetiness |
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| 21:31.51 | DexterTheDragon | what php modules are not thread safe? |
| 21:31.56 | fungus | FYI, the worker mpm is better even on single core CPUs |
| 21:31.59 | josephscott | I don't think that is a major issue with current versions of PHP and friends, wouldn't hurt to check though |
| 21:32.20 | fungus | I haven't looked into thread safety on PHP stuff in years, so I don't really know. |
| 21:32.29 | mindjuju | ok, so i'm right here , and I read worker and the others that applied |
| 21:32.29 | mindjuju | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/ |
| 21:33.00 | mindjuju | do i enable like the other modules? |
| 21:33.01 | fungus | worker and prefork are the only ones to concern yourself with. |
| 21:33.27 | fungus | Usually a default config with have both in there with one commented out. |
| 21:37.12 | mindjuju | k, so when i httpd -l, it only lists prefork.c, core.c, httpd_core.c and mod_so.c, so that means i need to see who offers worker and load it via the loadmodule methinks |
| 21:38.01 | fungus | In Ubuntu you can just apt-get install apache2-mpm-worker IIRC |
| 21:38.23 | mindjuju | perhaps something similar in centos ? |
| 21:40.10 | josephscott | ~boogle mindjuju |
| 21:40.29 | josephscott | ~google mindjuju |
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| 21:58.21 | romanovic | anyone with network foo can help me with small office networking confusion? |
| 21:59.16 | romanovic | Need to provide internet access to a subnet but not the network at large |
| 21:59.21 | jsmith | romanovic: Just throw out your question, and if someone can help, they will |
| 21:59.23 | jsmith | ~ask |
| 21:59.23 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 21:59.50 | romanovic | working with a handful of cheap linksys(dd-wrt) routers |
| 22:00.07 | beandog | ah man |
| 22:00.11 | beandog | thtas cool |
| 22:01.00 | romanovic | plus bridging the connection wirelessly from a central location to 2 other spots |
| 22:01.34 | beandog | thats hard. |
| 22:01.51 | romanovic | the bridging looks like the easy part, at least with dd-wrt |
| 22:02.40 | romanovic | I just don't know how to have a subnet under one of the routers be uplinked to both the internet and the wan |
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| 22:03.58 | romanovic | or maybe i'm approaching it wrong and there is a simpler way |
| 22:04.02 | mgeary | ibot: hey |
| 22:04.02 | ibot | hey is, like, almost for horses |
| 22:04.07 | mgeary | ~boggle mindjuju |
| 22:04.07 | ibot | ACTION stares in flabbergasted astonishment at mindjuju |
| 22:04.23 | mindjuju | huh? |
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| 22:06.13 | beandog | mindjuju, ping |
| 22:06.19 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart beandog |
| 22:06.19 | ibot | stabs beandog |
| 22:06.20 | mindjuju | yo |
| 22:06.26 | PoeticIntensity | ha! |
| 22:06.34 | PoeticIntensity | Happy Christmas Stabbing! |
| 22:06.44 | carmony_ | well, my CfP is submitted for phptek 2011 |
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| 22:11.29 | opapo | what would cause apache to spin up multiple instances, more than normal? |
| 22:15.23 | trevynm | Anyone know Code Greenes hourly rate? |
| 22:15.33 | trevynm | or Heritage? or red Olive? |
| 22:17.20 | fungus | opapo, apache is supposed to spin up multiple instances. |
| 22:19.58 | opapo | fungus: my apache server became unresponsive. I logged in to the server and did "ps aux|grep apache" There were 3 pages of instances. Normally there is half a page. |
| 22:20.13 | opapo | I restarted apache and everything was fine. |
| 22:20.39 | fungus | apache automatically starts as many processes as needed to handle requests, up to the limit specified in the config. |
| 22:20.59 | fungus | Perhaps your limit is too high for the power of your server. |
| 22:21.33 | opapo | is it possible for network interference to prevent transactions to complete, therefore keeping connections open? |
| 22:23.14 | fungus | Possibly, but the fact remains, it took down your server. Your MaxClients is too high. |
| 22:23.24 | beandog | apache's defaults are pretty generous. |
| 22:23.31 | beandog | as in, let's serve up the world! |
| 22:23.50 | opapo | If I reduce my Maxclients will I refuse access to some people? |
| 22:23.57 | fungus | yes |
| 22:24.07 | opapo | Would this be an indication that I need more RAM? |
| 22:24.15 | fungus | refusing a few people during a high traffic period is better than killing your server. |
| 22:24.51 | fungus | RAM, CPU, Disk IO. are all possible bottlenecks. Depends on your website. |
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| 22:26.53 | fungus | Instead of upgrading your server to support more concurrent connections, start with making your site handle the requests faster. |
| 22:27.10 | opapo | According to "top" there is only 25M Free RAM at normal operating levels. I guess RAM is the first thing I would upgrade. |
| 22:27.38 | fungus | "Free" RAM is bad |
| 22:27.50 | opapo | ???? |
| 22:27.55 | fungus | Linux always tries to use RAM for caching. See "buffers" in top |
| 22:28.02 | opapo | ok |
| 22:28.16 | fungus | that is essentially "free" RAM, but is being used for disk caching, etc. |
| 22:28.26 | opapo | so used minus buffers is what is actually used? |
| 22:28.48 | fungus | no. Used + Free + Buffers = Total |
| 22:29.41 | mindjuju | awesome 80s commercial - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEgehIUWoqw |
| 22:30.38 | fungus | opapo, your first target isn't RAM, your first target is to identify the cause of the Apache requests "hanging" |
| 22:31.08 | opapo | are there logs for that? |
| 22:31.11 | fungus | more RAM will only make your server stay up a little bit longer before dying. |
| 22:33.10 | fungus | Possibly there might be an indication in the logs. using the mod_status Apache module can show you some detail about what requests the processes are working on at the time of a problem. |
| 22:34.50 | fungus | After identifying the requests that are causing problems, you can then focus on profiling them. |
| 22:37.22 | opapo | thanks |
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| 23:28.00 | beandog | fungus, ping-a-ling |
| 23:28.19 | fungus | beandog, pong-a-wong |
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| 23:56.37 | thebigdog | beandog: you around? |
| 23:57.04 | beandog | thebigdog, yo |
| 23:59.43 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart beandog |
| 23:59.43 | ibot | beats beandog over the head with a microkernel |