| 00:02.34 | beandog | ~poke mindjuju |
| 00:02.34 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind mindjuju, pokes mindjuju repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 00:02.39 | beandog | lol |
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| 05:20.07 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 05:20.07 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of eco's pants |
| 05:27.32 | herlo | heh |
| 05:28.33 | beandog | that'd hurt. |
| 05:31.03 | herlo | good thing we're not eco |
| 05:42.38 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart beandog |
| 05:42.38 | ibot | moos at beandog |
| 05:42.45 | beandog | woo |
| 05:42.57 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: do you wanna borrow my wii component cables |
| 05:43.25 | DexterTheDragon | I bought some, should be here eventually |
| 05:43.30 | beandog | woo |
| 05:43.31 | beandog | okay |
| 05:43.31 | beandog | nn |
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| 17:00.00 | PoeticIntensity | hidely-ho, neighbor! |
| 17:00.08 | PoeticIntensity | ~kermit |
| 17:00.08 | ibot | It's not easy being green. |
| 17:00.40 | PoeticIntensity | Got a pretty simple question with a seemingly elusive answer.... |
| 17:00.48 | PoeticIntensity | for any cakephp people. |
| 17:01.30 | PoeticIntensity | is "ssl" or "secure" a parameter passable in the html->link helper? If I want the resulting link to be ssl'ed ? |
| 17:01.49 | PoeticIntensity | ping DexterTheDragon SunSparc ^^^ |
| 17:02.00 | PoeticIntensity | couldn't find anything in the docs. |
| 17:15.05 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: In the html->link helper, you actually specify http or https in the url that you pass. Unless it is a url to a controller on the same site, then the current protocol is used. |
| 17:15.45 | PoeticIntensity | Right.... |
| 17:15.49 | PoeticIntensity | I kind of thought that might be the case... |
| 17:16.14 | PoeticIntensity | So it's a static, complete URL that needs to be passed? |
| 17:16.23 | PoeticIntensity | e.g. https:///www.whatever.com/whatever ? |
| 17:16.29 | PoeticIntensity | or is there another way? |
| 17:17.26 | mgeary | i had a call with a prospective client yesterday, they wanted to know why we choose to work with OSS/LAMP technologies instead of M$ tech... |
| 17:17.28 | SunSparc | Yes, that is the way you do it. It basically takes the place of you needing to type an A tag. |
| 17:17.38 | SunSparc | But you still put the URL in the same way. |
| 17:17.41 | mgeary | ... what a loaded question |
| 17:17.56 | SunSparc | Whether that be relative or absolute |
| 17:18.07 | PoeticIntensity | well... it can't be relative, can it? |
| 17:18.12 | PoeticIntensity | (I'm hoping it can) |
| 17:18.13 | SunSparc | Sure |
| 17:18.29 | PoeticIntensity | so how would you do a relative link going from http to https? |
| 17:19.55 | SunSparc | Well, you would not. It would just use the current protocol unless you have a redirect setup. |
| 17:21.38 | josephscott | mgeary: what did you tell them? |
| 17:22.16 | PoeticIntensity | SunSparc, gotcha. |
| 17:22.18 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, man. |
| 17:22.40 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: If you want to be that specific, you could always just do an absolute url |
| 17:22.41 | mgeary | josephscott: i told them that licensing fees were a significant issue, but a large part of it came down to our philosophy. We don't like being locked in, and like the freedom that OSS represents. I think we boggled his mind a little |
| 17:22.41 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 17:23.26 | josephscott | hehe, good to expand horizons a bit |
| 17:23.29 | PoeticIntensity | SunSparc, yeah... That always presents problems for distributed development, though. |
| 17:23.35 | SunSparc | yep |
| 17:24.02 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: what i like to do is have a given view know whether it should be secure or not, and do a redirect based on a sitewide secure root config var |
| 17:24.28 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, beautiful. |
| 17:24.43 | SunSparc | Yeah, the controller can handle that well enough with a redirect call |
| 17:24.46 | PoeticIntensity | I have an example of that, too, so... I think that route is where I'm gonna go. |
| 17:24.50 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
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| 18:10.26 | _psychic_ | (OT) http://twitter.com/raisinbread/status/10032826288177153 |
| 18:14.12 | SunSparc | Awesome |
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| 19:10.11 | mgeary | you know, i used to hate cover songs, but in my old age, i find i love 'em |
| 19:10.26 | mgeary | especially covers of Springsteen |
| 19:17.56 | SunSparc | Covers are all the rage. |
| 19:19.20 | mgeary | is anyone here interested in some used but good rack-mountable servers? |
| 19:19.31 | mindjuju | what kind |
| 19:19.55 | mgeary | couple of different kinds |
| 19:20.09 | mindjuju | are these servers the ones you talked about like 2 wks ago, something about a trade of some kind |
| 19:20.17 | mgeary | yep |
| 19:20.28 | mgeary | gauging the possibility of taking them in trade and selling some/all of them |
| 19:21.00 | mgeary | there's an older Xserve that would probably go for a few hundred, but some nicer HP quad-core Xeons that are still quite capable |
| 19:21.28 | josephscott | intel xserve? |
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| 19:22.07 | mgeary | this xserve is a PPC, but there are a couple of others that we haven't fired up yet |
| 19:22.14 | josephscott | kind of bummed xserves are going away, they were nice looking boxes |
| 19:24.28 | SunSparc | Get a Mac Mini and use that as your Xserve. ;) |
| 19:24.42 | josephscott | not even close |
| 19:25.19 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:25.19 | mgeary | no kidding. we have 2 xserves, and i love 'em |
| 19:25.38 | SunSparc | AFP is nice, as long as you do not have PC's on the network. |
| 19:25.53 | mgeary | yeah |
| 19:25.56 | mgeary | i prefer AFP to SMB |
| 19:26.24 | SunSparc | Ditto, if you can force OS X. But there are always those nutjobs out there that want to use Windows. |
| 19:26.33 | mgeary | psh |
| 19:26.37 | mgeary | who cares about them? |
| 19:26.52 | SunSparc | lol, I like the cut of yer jib |
| 19:28.26 | mindjuju | @sunsparc, what are you doing looking at mgeary 's jib ? |
| 19:29.10 | SunSparc | Sailing, mindjuju ;) |
| 19:29.37 | mindjuju | yes, i know what a jib is, but i couldn't resist |
| 19:29.39 | mgeary | i'm a jib flaunter |
| 19:29.44 | mindjuju | plus, how do you respond to that? |
| 19:30.12 | SunSparc | Many possibilities, for example... |
| 19:30.15 | SunSparc | Dude |
| 19:31.39 | mindjuju | i've heard TONS of good about it and it has 5star rating on amazon, with 50 reviews |
| 19:31.42 | SunSparc | mindjuju: We have that, or at least the Chinese version of it. |
| 19:31.53 | mindjuju | is it good? |
| 19:32.00 | mgeary | we have that |
| 19:32.02 | mgeary | and yes, it is good |
| 19:32.11 | mgeary | i think we have that exact one |
| 19:32.15 | SunSparc | Way cool. My kids loved learning with it. I got to talk electronics with them. |
| 19:32.21 | mgeary | but it may be a not-quite-as-extreme version |
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| 19:38.37 | mindjuju | sup beandog |
| 19:38.41 | mindjuju | you just missed the vote |
| 19:38.43 | beandog | mindjuju, hey |
| 19:38.46 | beandog | vote on what |
| 19:38.59 | mindjuju | vote making you #uphpu resident cookie expert |
| 19:39.04 | beandog | has anyone done mysql replication recently |
| 19:39.10 | beandog | mindjuju, right on |
| 19:39.21 | mindjuju | josephscott prolly has |
| 19:39.26 | beandog | I accept the nomination |
| 19:39.31 | mindjuju | or jsmith, though jsmith hasn't done that for some time |
| 19:39.39 | mindjuju | and, let's see, who else might have |
| 19:40.15 | mindjuju | thebigdog has done some way cool stuff with mysql (GIS), he might have also done replication |
| 19:41.19 | beandog | intresting - http://www.maatkit.org/ |
| 19:41.45 | beandog | Maatkit is a collection of command-line utilities that provide missing functionality for MySQL. Some of the tools implement lacking server functionality, such as online consistency checks for master/slave replication; others are client-side utilities such as a query profiler. |
| 19:42.02 | beandog | http://www.maatkit.org/doc/maatkit.html |
| 19:42.52 | SunSparc | ~cookie beandog |
| 19:43.07 | beandog | ibot, fail |
| 19:43.07 | ibot | FAIL. |
| 19:43.15 | mindjuju | hey, the beeb uses maatkit |
| 19:43.17 | mindjuju | cool! |
| 19:43.22 | beandog | the beeb? |
| 19:43.28 | mindjuju | http://www.maatkit.org/users |
| 19:43.32 | mindjuju | bbc |
| 19:43.36 | beandog | oh |
| 19:43.41 | beandog | I thought you meant Justin Bieber |
| 19:43.51 | mindjuju | uh, weird |
| 19:44.17 | mindjuju | well, i prolly shouldn't judge yet |
| 19:44.34 | mindjuju | i've just heard part of a part of asong as part of a trailer for a movie that i saw on thanksgiving, tangled |
| 19:44.40 | mindjuju | but that seemed to be enough for me |
| 19:44.50 | beandog | oh mindjuju, so quick to judge |
| 19:44.56 | mindjuju | i know |
| 19:45.15 | mindjuju | i'll go grooveshark a bieber song just to see |
| 19:45.57 | beandog | mindjuju, yah? send us a link |
| 19:45.59 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, hows the wii |
| 19:46.04 | beandog | ~bowl DexterTheDragon |
| 19:46.04 | ibot | ACTION ties up and puts DexterTheDragon in the spot of the front pin, and then rolls the biggest bowling ball anyone has ever seen for a perfect split |
| 19:47.51 | mindjuju | k, i can't share without creating an account, and i don't want to do that, but here click baby on this list |
| 19:47.52 | mindjuju | http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/search/songs/?query=bieber |
| 19:48.06 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: needs games |
| 19:48.17 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, yah |
| 19:48.19 | mindjuju | first off, i thought that was a girl's voice, and i guess i heard part of this song whilst changing the chan from 94.9 to 101 |
| 19:48.19 | SunSparc | mindjuju: You don't have a GrooveShark account? |
| 19:48.24 | mindjuju | no |
| 19:48.35 | beandog | grooveshark always crashes my browser |
| 19:48.46 | mindjuju | except whilst driving |
| 19:49.05 | beandog | wow, he sounds like a kid |
| 19:49.08 | mindjuju | even while sleeping, i listen to electronica |
| 19:49.10 | DexterTheDragon | then he listens to dubstep |
| 19:49.16 | mindjuju | sounds like a pre-pubescent boy |
| 19:49.21 | beandog | pretty much |
| 19:50.15 | beandog | he seriously sounds 12 |
| 19:50.23 | mindjuju | i think he might be |
| 19:50.41 | mindjuju | ~wiki justin bieber |
| 19:51.00 | beandog | 16 |
| 19:51.06 | mindjuju | heh |
| 19:51.53 | mindjuju | oh, that's what's wrong with him, he's canadian |
| 19:52.10 | beandog | well, I listened to one song |
| 19:52.12 | josephscott | ~flame mindjuju |
| 19:52.12 | ibot | mindjuju, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 19:52.13 | beandog | that wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be. |
| 19:52.21 | beandog | not bad |
| 19:52.32 | mindjuju | me still laughing |
| 19:52.32 | beandog | josephscott, you worked with replication? |
| 19:52.43 | josephscott | sure, I've setup replication |
| 19:52.43 | beandog | ~blame canada |
| 19:52.43 | ibot | ACTION blames canada (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 19:52.59 | mgeary | ~fail beandog |
| 19:52.59 | ibot | beandog: FAIL! |
| 19:53.05 | beandog | josephscott, any recommendations on setting it up |
| 19:53.23 | beandog | er, I remember what I was gonna ask |
| 19:53.29 | josephscott | there are some good articles on how to get it going, not terribly hard |
| 19:53.36 | josephscott | though I think it could be better |
| 19:53.43 | beandog | josephscott, on a simple master slave setup, how long do you think that'd take to setup? I haven't done this in like 10 years, but I remember it going pretty quickly |
| 19:53.57 | stderr | bright night skiing opening up on the 7th \m/ |
| 19:54.35 | beandog | poor guy can't hit a low note. |
| 19:54.47 | josephscott | if you haven't done it before, with instructions, should still be able to do it under and hour |
| 19:54.47 | mindjuju | oh man, beandog, you've got to read the 2nd paragraph under "Target for critics, pranksters, and parodies" on the wiki for bieber |
| 19:54.53 | fungus | beandog, this howto is decent for replication. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication-howto.html |
| 19:55.09 | mindjuju | where 4chan rigged the voting of a poll and nominated North Korea as a country bieber should tour |
| 19:55.17 | mindjuju | classic |
| 19:56.05 | beandog | I'm trying to find if theres a table type req. for slave mode |
| 19:56.08 | beandog | er, replication |
| 19:56.13 | josephscott | no |
| 19:56.19 | beandog | no? Good. |
| 19:56.27 | beandog | with innodb I can do a transactional backup |
| 19:56.28 | beandog | thats what I want. |
| 19:56.51 | josephscott | worth checking out xtrabackup for backups |
| 19:57.16 | beandog | oh? |
| 19:57.39 | beandog | fungus, thx mon |
| 19:57.48 | beandog | I already got me a good Oreilly book on mysql ha |
| 19:58.03 | beandog | 2nd song wasn't that bad nor great either. |
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| 20:00.45 | beandog | mindjuju, you can share just fine |
| 20:00.49 | beandog | ~fail mindjuju |
| 20:00.49 | ibot | mindjuju, you Fail! |
| 20:00.54 | beandog | mindjuju, http://tinysong.com/d2Mb |
| 20:00.56 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 20:01.07 | beandog | you don't need an acct. |
| 20:01.22 | beandog | I actually kinda like this one |
| 20:01.26 | beandog | but, again, I have *weird* tastes. |
| 20:02.03 | fungus | Gah! |
| 20:02.09 | beandog | lol |
| 20:02.11 | fungus | That's worse than a rickroll |
| 20:02.21 | beandog | fungus, lol |
| 20:03.02 | mindjuju | it's canada's fault |
| 20:03.20 | fungus | ~blame canada |
| 20:03.20 | ibot | ACTION blames canada (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 20:03.36 | mindjuju | first bryan adams, then celine dijon |
| 20:03.46 | fungus | lol, "dijon" |
| 20:03.55 | beandog | lmao |
| 20:03.58 | beandog | ~mindjuju++ |
| 20:04.05 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:06.21 | beandog | ibot, mindjuju also listens to celine dijon |
| 20:06.27 | beandog | okay, this song sucks. |
| 20:06.40 | mindjuju | which? first dance? |
| 20:07.16 | beandog | favorite girl |
| 20:08.37 | mindjuju | did he say bieber - cash? |
| 20:09.20 | beandog | what? |
| 20:09.36 | mindjuju | @thebigdog, beandog found an awesome some called favorite girl that has some rippin' guitar |
| 20:09.46 | mindjuju | you should check it out, and pass all feedback back to beandog |
| 20:10.00 | beandog | rippin guitar? |
| 20:10.32 | mindjuju | rippin |
| 20:10.52 | beandog | mindjuju, here you go, you'll like the beat on this one http://tinysong.com/dzt9 |
| 20:11.26 | beandog | oh noes! |
| 20:11.30 | beandog | I've been blacklisted. :C |
| 20:11.33 | beandog | It's not the first time. |
| 20:11.36 | beandog | Sadly. |
| 20:12.52 | mindjuju | yeah, thx bro |
| 20:13.43 | mindjuju | common denominator was a song i'm sure he wrote during math class |
| 20:13.48 | mindjuju | don't ask me how i know |
| 20:14.10 | mindjuju | i hope he goes over division by 0 |
| 20:14.58 | beandog | wow, this one *sucks* |
| 20:15.39 | mindjuju | the math love song? |
| 20:15.47 | beandog | no |
| 20:15.48 | beandog | it was |
| 20:15.49 | beandog | uh |
| 20:15.50 | beandog | Bigger |
| 20:16.17 | mindjuju | yeah, i think i've heard enough bieber for a lifetime |
| 20:16.26 | beandog | wuss |
| 20:17.31 | beandog | I lost my place. |
| 20:17.55 | carmony_ | did I read beandog's tweet right? |
| 20:18.12 | beandog | carmony_, havent you been paying attention? |
| 20:18.49 | carmony_ | nope |
| 20:19.46 | beandog | Okay |
| 20:19.57 | beandog | So far, I'd say about 25% of his songs are decent. |
| 20:20.02 | beandog | The rest are weak, or just dumb. |
| 20:20.36 | beandog | I think Im ready to go back to listening to some Beth Quist |
| 20:21.21 | beandog | http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/quist-silver/ |
| 20:29.09 | mindjuju | it's a trap! |
| 20:30.28 | beandog | I'm gonna get blacklisted by SunSparc too |
| 20:30.30 | beandog | :C |
| 20:30.33 | SunSparc | flutes, celtic sounding vocals, wooden mallet percussion... |
| 20:30.56 | mindjuju | a pecan sandie? |
| 20:30.59 | SunSparc | Intriguing. |
| 20:31.05 | beandog | chips ahoy |
| 20:31.21 | beandog | pecan sandies == gross |
| 20:31.57 | mindjuju | pecan sandies == nummy |
| 20:32.04 | mindjuju | where nummy > nom nom |
| 20:32.13 | beandog | bleargh |
| 20:32.21 | beandog | SunSparc, yah, that was the wrong music link. Probably good in your favor though. |
| 20:32.57 | SunSparc | So far so good. |
| 20:33.19 | mindjuju | does beandog like ginger snaps? |
| 20:33.28 | beandog | mindjuju, oh yes, very much so |
| 20:33.52 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:35.45 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 20:35.46 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, sheri, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 20:35.57 | sheri | hah |
| 20:36.06 | mgeary | uh, ibot, let's not go there |
| 20:36.12 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:36.15 | mindjuju | oh he went there |
| 20:39.12 | mindjuju | this miley cirus intervention is really quite funny - http://current.com/shows/infomania/92445342_miley-cyrus-please-stop.htm |
| 20:40.13 | beandog | wow |
| 20:40.32 | mindjuju | oh wait, some words bleeped out |
| 20:40.53 | beandog | ~unsee |
| 20:41.09 | beandog | ibot, unsee is what has been seen, cannot be unseen |
| 20:41.09 | ibot | okay, beandog |
| 20:41.12 | beandog | ~unsee |
| 20:41.12 | ibot | rumour has it, unsee is what has been seen, cannot be unseen |
| 20:41.23 | beandog | ~mindjuju |
| 20:41.24 | ibot | mindjuju is, like, sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms, or likes ponicals |
| 20:41.39 | beandog | ibot, mindjuju also listens to celine dijon |
| 20:41.46 | beandog | fix it! |
| 20:41.50 | beandog | ~smack ibot |
| 20:41.51 | ibot | ACTION smacks ibot upside the head. |
| 20:44.53 | mindjuju | DtD, what you listening to over there? |
| 20:45.29 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: Perfecto Podcast featuring Paul Oakenfold |
| 20:50.29 | beandog | ibot, mindjuju is also listens to celine dijon |
| 20:50.30 | ibot | okay, beandog |
| 20:50.30 | mgeary | ~mbp beandog |
| 20:50.30 | ibot | ACTION puts another nickel in beandog's "Get a MacBook Pro" jar |
| 20:50.34 | beandog | there we go |
| 20:50.36 | beandog | ~mindjuju |
| 20:50.37 | ibot | somebody said mindjuju was sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms, or likes ponicals, or listens to celine dijon |
| 20:50.52 | beandog | ~syntax beandog |
| 20:51.02 | mgeary | ~literal beandog |
| 20:51.02 | ibot | "beandog" is "the gentoo guru, or a wannabe racer. a skater. the enlightened one, or <3 Janeway, or a non-girl, or has a large intestine filled with mealworms" |
| 20:51.12 | mgeary | mealworms, eh? |
| 20:51.14 | mgeary | ~tmi |
| 20:51.14 | ibot | tmi stands for too much information |
| 20:51.28 | beandog | Janeway++ |
| 20:51.33 | mgeary | oh no |
| 20:51.55 | beandog | speak no ill of the captain |
| 20:52.03 | mindjuju | @beandog, this is the way titanic should have been - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuSdU8tbcHY |
| 20:52.15 | mindjuju | complete with edited celine song |
| 20:53.08 | beandog | meh |
| 20:53.13 | beandog | titanic == suck |
| 20:53.21 | beandog | I bet fungus liked it tho |
| 20:53.29 | mindjuju | did you watch the link? |
| 20:53.29 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Perfect |
| 20:53.39 | mindjuju | @sunsparc ^5 |
| 20:53.41 | beandog | mindjuju, I didnt see a no rickroll guarantee |
| 20:53.54 | mindjuju | 100% no rickroll guarantee on the aforementioned link |
| 20:53.56 | beandog | besides, I gotta get on a conf. call |
| 20:54.11 | mindjuju | ~lart beandog for meh something he didn't watch |
| 20:54.11 | ibot | puts beandog into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of beandog's hair of for meh something he didn't watch |
| 20:54.13 | SunSparc | mindjuju: You like Michael Jackson? |
| 20:54.21 | mindjuju | not really |
| 20:54.28 | mindjuju | but i'll watch a link though |
| 20:54.31 | mindjuju | and i do like thriller |
| 20:54.36 | mindjuju | and a handful of other stuff |
| 20:54.42 | beandog | thriller .. thriller night |
| 20:54.44 | SunSparc | Well, here is a techo remix of Beat It http://www.thesixtyone.com/s/KhmUaaSOqXF/ |
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| 21:55.49 | PoeticIntensity | ugh.... |
| 21:56.00 | PoeticIntensity | cake problems again.... (thanks for the previous help SunSparc and mgeary) |
| 21:56.22 | PoeticIntensity | is there any reason why cake would not recognize a secure site as secure? |
| 21:56.44 | SunSparc | ? |
| 21:56.55 | PoeticIntensity | I'm using a "forceSSL" callback function to redirect to a secure URL, when a secure place is reached insecurely.... |
| 21:57.08 | PoeticIntensity | and it works perfectly on my local dev box.. |
| 21:57.20 | SunSparc | Probably is not cake. |
| 21:57.22 | PoeticIntensity | On the live site, however, it is endlessly looping (302)... |
| 21:57.33 | SunSparc | Could be the server setup. |
| 21:57.47 | PoeticIntensity | cake is running the "forceSSL" function even when there's https in the URL... |
| 21:57.50 | PoeticIntensity | very odd. |
| 21:58.04 | SunSparc | Yeah, how are you checking for ssl? |
| 21:58.13 | SunSparc | env var? |
| 21:58.32 | SunSparc | Not all servers use the same vars. |
| 21:58.35 | PoeticIntensity | app_controller.php |
| 21:58.37 | PoeticIntensity | $this->Security->requireSecure('checkout'); |
| 21:58.46 | PoeticIntensity | then calling the blackhole callback. |
| 21:58.51 | PoeticIntensity | which then redirects the page. |
| 21:59.09 | PoeticIntensity | it's all within cake... Cake does the checking through the Security component. |
| 22:03.08 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: How are you calling that method? |
| 22:03.23 | PoeticIntensity | It does it automatically... |
| 22:03.31 | PoeticIntensity | it's built into the Security component. |
| 22:03.45 | SunSparc | Right, but in the app_controller, in what method is that call? |
| 22:03.48 | PoeticIntensity | If Security-requireSecure is set... |
| 22:03.57 | PoeticIntensity | beforeFilter |
| 22:04.31 | PoeticIntensity | Might I mention.... This works perfectly on my localbox. No issues at all. |
| 22:04.43 | PoeticIntensity | pushed to the live-test site, it endless-loops. |
| 22:04.53 | PoeticIntensity | it also endless-loops on my co-worker's dev box (windows) |
| 22:05.34 | PoeticIntensity | the endless loop comes because cake is somehow determining that an https:// URL is *not* meeting the criteria of being a SSL-secured URL. |
| 22:05.36 | SunSparc | Right, which I why I am thinking it is still something with the server. I have had SSL detection problems in the past and they end up being that the server var I am check to determine whether SSL is enabled or not is missing. |
| 22:05.38 | PoeticIntensity | which is very odd. |
| 22:06.04 | PoeticIntensity | I immediately thought the same thing, SunSparc .... |
| 22:06.12 | PoeticIntensity | when I checked the vars, they're precisely what they should be.... |
| 22:06.22 | PoeticIntensity | and the "https://" portion of the redirect is being statically written in. |
| 22:07.01 | PoeticIntensity | so the URL is https:// - and the check is being fired which is due to cake thinking the URL isn't SSL. |
| 22:07.17 | PoeticIntensity | At this point, I'm thinking it's server-related, as well. |
| 22:07.36 | PoeticIntensity | I just thought I'd ask the gurus.... (SunSparc, etc...) |
| 22:07.41 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:07.50 | mindjuju | i'd like to chip in that i think it's the server as well |
| 22:08.00 | mindjuju | i didn't read anything you mentioned above, it's just a spidey sense |
| 22:08.06 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:08.27 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:08.43 | josephscott | how does Cake determine if a URL is SSL? |
| 22:09.15 | SunSparc | That is the magical question right there. |
| 22:11.16 | josephscott | frameworks can be powerful things, but still requires a reasonable understanding of what happens in the guts of the system |
| 22:11.40 | SunSparc | Yes |
| 22:11.59 | PoeticIntensity | Yup. |
| 22:12.08 | mindjuju | i agree too |
| 22:12.12 | PoeticIntensity | If it didn't work flawlessly on my box, I'd be suspicious... |
| 22:12.19 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: I would dig a bit more for you but at the moment I am into some stuff of my own. |
| 22:12.32 | PoeticIntensity | SunSparc, you're awesome. No worries, bro. |
| 22:12.40 | SunSparc | Thanks |
| 22:12.54 | PoeticIntensity | I'm just using vanilla apache / php 5.2.12 on here... |
| 22:12.55 | mindjuju | ~sunsparc++ |
| 22:13.02 | SunSparc | woot |
| 22:13.03 | PoeticIntensity | ~SunSparc++ |
| 22:13.10 | SunSparc | :D |
| 22:13.10 | PoeticIntensity | most definitely. |
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| 22:13.54 | PoeticIntensity | <subliminal message> go buy Herod the Fink's new CD @ http://herodthefink.bandcamp.com </subliminal message> |
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| 22:14.05 | PoeticIntensity | wha...!?!? |
| 22:14.15 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:14.16 | josephscott | any thoughts/opinions on bandcamp? |
| 22:14.21 | PoeticIntensity | There will be NO subliminality going on here... |
| 22:14.43 | PoeticIntensity | josephscott, it is *by far* the best method for selling music I've seen yet. |
| 22:14.48 | mindjuju | i heard that the award winning Herod the Fink album is a great stocking stuffer |
| 22:15.02 | PoeticIntensity | their fb widget is .... well.... phenomenal. |
| 22:15.15 | PoeticIntensity | integrates seamlessly into all major social networks... |
| 22:15.24 | PoeticIntensity | requires a paypal account, and that's it. |
| 22:15.35 | PoeticIntensity | then people buy it, and money is put into your account, real time. |
| 22:16.04 | josephscott | cool, I know one of the investors there, good to hear positive things about them |
| 22:16.11 | PoeticIntensity | we've had more success with it than cdbaby / itunes by a ..... very large margin. (but we don't sell much, so though the margin be big, the actual sales aren't) |
| 22:16.47 | PoeticIntensity | we've sold 10 CDs through it this year. We sold none through CDbaby last year. (too many variables to pin it on anything, but just thought I'd mention that) |
| 22:17.53 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, you heard right. It's won multiple *multiples of awesome* awards, and has been a trusted name brand in both the home and the office for centuries. |
| 22:18.10 | PoeticIntensity | (Herod the Fink, that is) |
| 22:19.31 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 22:22.01 | PoeticIntensity | (the crowd is all dumb-cow-blank-stares) |
| 22:22.08 | PoeticIntensity | ....maybe we should re-think our approach... |
| 22:22.26 | mindjuju | so PI, where can they call or buy their own copies? |
| 22:22.57 | PoeticIntensity | well, mindjuju, I'm glad you asked.... *feta-cheese grin* |
| 22:23.23 | PoeticIntensity | they can go directly to the following URL and ..... |
| 22:23.27 | PoeticIntensity | .....wait for it..... |
| 22:23.33 | PoeticIntensity | ......wait for it....... |
| 22:23.42 | PoeticIntensity | ...........................waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait for it................................... |
| 22:23.51 | PoeticIntensity | BUY THEIR OWN COPIES!!!! |
| 22:23.59 | PoeticIntensity | (the crowd goes wild!) |
| 22:24.42 | PoeticIntensity | for a mere $5.00 they can own their own copy of the heavily-awarded Herod the Fink, Back to 337, and listen to it all year long! |
| 22:24.49 | PoeticIntensity | (cro1 was not amused) |
| 22:25.40 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 22:25.40 | ibot | shoots itimber1 in his sleep |
| 22:25.50 | josephscott | ~save itimber1 |
| 22:25.50 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves itimber1 from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 22:25.55 | PoeticIntensity | The following URL is now accepting browsers for the next 5 minutes, and the next 5,000,000 pageloads will get this fabulous offer! |
| 22:26.12 | mindjuju | $5! that's cheap! |
| 22:26.18 | PoeticIntensity | http://herodthefink.bandcamp.com |
| 22:26.19 | PoeticIntensity | GO! |
| 22:26.40 | PoeticIntensity | *chirp....... chirp......* |
| 22:28.54 | PoeticIntensity | ~shoot PoeticIntensity |
| 22:28.54 | ibot | ACTION shoots PoeticIntensity in the ear with a cork gun! |
| 22:29.10 | PoeticIntensity | *psst.... ibot... that was supposed to be in the leg!* |
| 22:31.31 | itimber1 | ha... thanks josephscott |
| 22:34.43 | josephscott | state of web performance - http://calendar.perfplanet.com/2010/the-state-of-web-performance-optimization-2010/ |
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| 23:27.46 | redroy | does anyone use a php file management script they like? |
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| 23:28.02 | redroy | I've been looking around⦠there's quite a few |
| 23:30.38 | herlo | josephscott: ping |
| 23:30.52 | josephscott | herlo: yo |
| 23:31.27 | herlo | josephscott: hey, got a wp question for you |
| 23:31.56 | herlo | silly error when doing scheduled posts 'missed schedule' doesn't post. I am reading a little about wp-cron.php, but so far nothing has fixed it |
| 23:32.44 | herlo | how do scheduled posts work in the backend? |
| 23:32.45 | josephscott | anything that might blog requests to wp-cron.php? |
| 23:32.53 | josephscott | s/blog/block/ |
| 23:32.58 | herlo | let me see |
| 23:34.30 | herlo | josephscott: from within the server? or externally? |
| 23:34.45 | josephscott | from the server |
| 23:35.19 | josephscott | the psuedo cron that WP uses is based on being able to do an HTTP request for wp-cron.php, which then checks for jobs |
| 23:35.24 | herlo | is there supposed to be a cronjob somewhere?? |
| 23:35.31 | herlo | ahh... |
| 23:35.56 | josephscott | no, it depends on page views to the site to trigger the cron request |
| 23:36.03 | herlo | right |
| 23:36.07 | herlo | kind of thought so |
| 23:36.33 | josephscott | it is, well, rather odd, but given the constraints it is as close as we can get |
| 23:36.44 | herlo | agreed, thanks |
| 23:36.48 | herlo | I know what I need to do now |
| 23:36.57 | josephscott | ok |
| 23:39.21 | herlo | josephscott: is there a way to change what server that wp-cron.php is called from? |
| 23:39.24 | herlo | a simple way |
| 23:40.45 | herlo | essentially, the internal server can't get out due to certain restrictions... |
| 23:41.01 | josephscott | it calls itself, I'm not sure I understand |
| 23:41.23 | josephscott | do they have separate host names? |
| 23:41.32 | herlo | well, we have a loadbalancer with several servers behind it |
| 23:41.42 | herlo | it calls www, which the internal server can't get to |
| 23:42.20 | herlo | I assume it makes a call to http://www.example.com/wp-cron.php (or whatever is in the db), right? |
| 23:42.34 | josephscott | yep, from the www.example.com server |
| 23:42.57 | herlo | so if www.example.com is a loadbalancer, and the internal server is called s1? |
| 23:43.16 | herlo | the loadbalancer passes the request from www to s1, then s1 tries to call www, but it can't reache it |
| 23:43.54 | herlo | because it's restricted within a vpn (since it's a private ip and PCI compliance requires this iirc) |
| 23:44.11 | PoeticIntensity | for those interested, I found the issue about cakephp and SSL... |
| 23:44.42 | PoeticIntensity | It was a host-specific bug (to stackable.com) due to load-balancing. They have a work around, though... |
| 23:44.43 | PoeticIntensity | Anyway. |
| 23:44.50 | josephscott | herlo: can you adjust the hosts file so www.example.com is the internal IP? |
| 23:45.05 | herlo | yah, that's one way we were considering |
| 23:45.08 | josephscott | PoeticIntensity: I assume they terminate SSL at the LB |
| 23:45.14 | PoeticIntensity | yes-sir |
| 23:45.37 | josephscott | the LB should set a var in the request the backend to let it know that it was SSL up to that point |
| 23:45.54 | PoeticIntensity | precisely... But they're doing it weird. |
| 23:46.00 | josephscott | I've run into similar things with WordPress.com and company |
| 23:46.12 | PoeticIntensity | requires a script to be attached to the app. |
| 23:46.19 | herlo | josephscott: is that the best way in your professional opinion to handle this?? |
| 23:47.05 | josephscott | oh man, professional opinions, well, in general I think having the request avoid going out the LB is best, hosts files seems like the best target for that |
| 23:47.29 | herlo | yeah |
| 23:47.32 | josephscott | not sure if you have split DNS or what, so there could be other options depending on your setup |
| 23:47.46 | herlo | nah, hosts is fine |
| 23:52.00 | herlo | josephscott: thanks |
| 23:52.24 | josephscott | np |
| 23:52.37 | mindjuju | ~josephscott++ |
| 23:53.12 | josephscott | I like the header on this blog http://spaceparanoids.net/2008/12/crisis-averted/ |
| 23:55.08 | PoeticIntensity | that is pretty cool.' |