| 01:02.57 | ninnypants | ~lart insurance |
| 01:02.57 | ibot | slaps a compatible dib on insurance's head |
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| 06:11.39 | mgeary | anyone around? |
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| 07:08.16 | romanovic | mgeary: I is around |
| 07:08.25 | romanovic | still awake? |
| 07:08.42 | mgeary | heya. i found a solution to my issue. was trying to figure out where perl looks by default for some libs |
| 07:08.50 | mgeary | but you're up pretty early, aren't you? |
| 07:09.03 | romanovic | no, its 10am here |
| 07:09.47 | mgeary | aha |
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| 15:57.00 | jsmith | Mmmmn.... breakfast.... |
| 15:57.47 | mindjuju | prolly breakfast from popeyes just to spite me |
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| 17:09.20 | SunSparc | ~Mouvember |
| 17:15.34 | mindjuju | i'm doing movember |
| 17:15.42 | mindjuju | except my mo isn't very good, so i'm doing a beard |
| 17:16.03 | mindjuju | who here is charles pro? |
| 17:20.08 | mgeary | Charles Pro? |
| 17:43.38 | thebigdog | i am not...but mindjuju is my huckleberry! |
| 17:59.37 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Got a pic of your beard? |
| 17:59.51 | SunSparc | I put a pic of my stash on Facebook. |
| 17:59.55 | mindjuju | i should FB it |
| 17:59.58 | SunSparc | Do |
| 18:00.12 | mindjuju | in my defense, i didn't remember movember until like the 18th |
| 18:00.21 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:00.22 | mindjuju | so it's not super woolly |
| 18:04.02 | mindjuju | @sunsparc, k it's uploading |
| 18:06.37 | mindjuju | @sunsparc, biker stash, you rock! |
| 18:06.53 | SunSparc | lol yeah baby |
| 18:07.07 | mindjuju | does it take long to trim like that? |
| 18:07.58 | SunSparc | Nah |
| 18:08.07 | SunSparc | Got a nice trimmer |
| 18:08.23 | mindjuju | i was never good at cutting straight lines |
| 18:08.33 | mindjuju | especially backwards (mirror) |
| 18:09.11 | SunSparc | Yeah, the mirror can be challenging. |
| 18:09.24 | SunSparc | Nice amount of scruff there. Good job. |
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| 18:15.46 | thebigdog | carmony_ you around? |
| 18:15.50 | carmony_ | nope! |
| 18:15.51 | carmony_ | :P |
| 18:15.54 | carmony_ | sup thebigdog |
| 18:16.18 | thebigdog | carmony_: you still doing heavy iphone dev? |
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| 18:17.00 | carmony_ | thebigdog: yeah, though I do the web side of it |
| 18:17.19 | thebigdog | oh |
| 18:17.32 | carmony_ | we have a iphone guy who rocks at the cocoa side of things |
| 18:17.37 | thebigdog | i was wondering if you have been doing db stuff with iphone |
| 18:17.48 | carmony_ | I haven't |
| 18:17.51 | carmony_ | we use web services |
| 18:17.58 | carmony_ | and store a lot of stuff server side |
| 18:18.24 | carmony_ | but, there is a guy who came to the last uphpu who does iphone stuff |
| 18:18.33 | carmony_ | and I know he has worked work CoreData |
| 18:22.39 | thebigdog | k |
| 18:22.43 | thebigdog | ill keep that in mind |
| 18:36.42 | mindjuju | ravetrax playing some serious breaks! woot! |
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| 18:56.01 | mgeary | bah |
| 18:56.08 | mgeary | did y'all see my mysql question? |
| 18:56.15 | mgeary | repost: is there any way to have a mysql regex return a matched string, rather than just true/false? |
| 19:05.38 | SunSparc | mgeary: Sorry, don't know the answer to that tone. |
| 19:05.51 | SunSparc | s/tone/one |
| 19:24.19 | mgeary | apparently it's just not possible |
| 19:27.08 | mindjuju | mgeary, not sure i'm understanding, but wouldn't that look like SELECT * FROM table WHERE (regex here) |
| 19:27.19 | mindjuju | in which case, table.field would be the answer? |
| 19:27.28 | mgeary | no, that only finds the rows where the regex matches. It doesn't give you the matched substring |
| 19:28.30 | mindjuju | @fungus, you around? |
| 19:28.55 | mindjuju | or wait, mgeary, you do it too, remember a little while ago you were asking fungus about DNS zone issues |
| 19:29.08 | mindjuju | are you running your own DNS server or do you got it as a service somewhere |
| 19:29.18 | mgeary | my own |
| 19:29.42 | mindjuju | so here is my question, does your web server also double as the DNS server? Is that an ok practice? |
| 19:29.53 | mindjuju | or should they be separate ? |
| 19:30.53 | mgeary | my DNS server does also serve up websites, but i can't think of any cases where i'm serving both the website and the DNS from the same machine |
| 19:31.59 | mindjuju | so its best practice to not have the DNS server on the same computer as the website itself? |
| 19:34.25 | mgeary | i'm not certain about that, but it may be |
| 19:35.17 | mindjuju | from a single point of failure perspective, that seems right, 1 outage could really wipe you out for hours |
| 19:35.49 | mindjuju | i think i need to arrange a service |
| 19:35.55 | mindjuju | i wonder what carmony_ does |
| 19:36.04 | carmony_ | hrm? |
| 19:36.27 | mindjuju | carmony, where do you have your DNS stuff, at a service or a server that you maintain? |
| 19:36.39 | carmony_ | eh, I used to have my own DNS server |
| 19:36.52 | carmony_ | then I just moved it to Rackspace Cloud's DNS |
| 19:37.09 | carmony_ | which works, but its kind of a pain in the butt to update, their interface is cludgy |
| 19:37.49 | thebigdog | i use dyndns and my own |
| 19:38.02 | mindjuju | thebigdog, who is first? |
| 19:38.09 | mindjuju | prolly dyndns, yes? |
| 19:38.31 | carmony_ | I've looked for other DNS services, never found one that was like "Ahhh, perfect!" |
| 19:38.43 | carmony_ | l |
| 19:38.43 | thebigdog | dyndns |
| 19:38.52 | thebigdog | i use my own for home development |
| 19:39.59 | thebigdog | i run some caching and other stuff |
| 19:46.03 | fungus | mindjuju, for personal I run my own primary DNS server, and use a free service for secondaries. |
| 19:46.22 | mindjuju | what about for work stuff? |
| 19:46.26 | fungus | for work, I run all of them myself |
| 19:46.28 | mindjuju | can you say? |
| 19:46.38 | mindjuju | is that all they do, DNS? |
| 19:46.47 | mindjuju | or do you have web/dns server on same machine? |
| 19:47.23 | mindjuju | would you consider running dns at a third party (why/why not)? |
| 19:47.25 | fungus | Mine are all dedicated |
| 19:47.54 | fungus | Since I have 4 separate networks/ISPs I don't need a third party. |
| 19:48.08 | fungus | If I only had one network available a third party would be a good idea. |
| 19:48.31 | mindjuju | oh, gotcha |
| 19:49.47 | fungus | Mine are dedicated primarily due to the simplicity of virtual machines. Though running them on a server with other services is not that big of a deal. |
| 19:51.39 | fungus | basically, dedicated is nice, but not worth the price of buying/supporting new hardware |
| 19:53.31 | thebigdog | mindjuju: my home server i run with a ton of stuff and it handles fine |
| 19:55.11 | mindjuju | true, but what's done at home can't always be what is done in production |
| 19:55.14 | mindjuju | or so i've read |
| 19:56.00 | thebigdog | true...but dns done right...can stil run other services with it |
| 19:56.10 | fungus | Unless your traffic is insane like wordpress.com or you have ridiculously low TTLs, DNS uses very little resources. |
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| 19:56.30 | thebigdog | even then sometimes you can go with a third party at that point |
| 19:56.37 | carmony_ | say speak of wordpress.com, and look who shows up ;) |
| 19:56.42 | thebigdog | or you have so much revenue that you just do it |
| 19:56.48 | carmony_ | its like he has a spidey sense |
| 19:57.02 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:57.27 | thebigdog | fungus are you just using bind for you dns? |
| 19:57.27 | carmony_ | I wonder if you put up a WP logo in the sky at night, if josephscott would show up then too :P |
| 19:57.40 | fungus | Yup, I'm old school like that. :) |
| 19:57.50 | fungus | I still love bind. |
| 19:57.54 | josephscott | haha |
| 19:58.06 | mindjuju | so is there an advantage to running your own DNS server v getting dyndns |
| 19:58.10 | mindjuju | is it for street cred? |
| 19:58.14 | thebigdog | i have been using tinydns w/ dnscache and really liking it |
| 19:58.53 | thebigdog | i did mine to brush up on the skills and then use dyndns for some stuff that needs the uptime |
| 19:58.55 | fungus | Your own DNS server vs a service: Pretty much interface, customisability |
| 19:59.15 | thebigdog | and cost i would factor that in too |
| 19:59.24 | mindjuju | dyndns is $30 |
| 19:59.26 | mindjuju | yr |
| 19:59.44 | fungus | does dyndns do slaves at a discount? |
| 20:00.06 | mindjuju | http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/custom/ |
| 20:00.11 | fungus | Using a third party for slaves can be nice too. Just run the master for yourself. |
| 20:00.33 | mindjuju | so when they say this |
| 20:00.34 | fungus | WTF? $40/yr for secondary DNS? |
| 20:00.49 | mindjuju | With simple web-interface, running on five geographically diverse servers to put you |
| 20:01.02 | mindjuju | does that mean 1 master and 4 slaves? |
| 20:01.10 | mindjuju | or i can chose one of the 5 locations? |
| 20:01.43 | josephscott | carmony - was someone asking about wordpress.com? |
| 20:01.57 | mindjuju | we were talking about DNS server strategies |
| 20:02.11 | fungus | I just mentioned it as an example of a high traffic site. |
| 20:02.13 | mindjuju | and wp was brought up in that instance to say that wp prolly doesn't run dns and web on same box |
| 20:02.26 | mindjuju | so fungus, $40 is cheap for secondary or expensive? |
| 20:02.55 | fungus | way expensive IMHO |
| 20:03.26 | fungus | lunch, brb |
| 20:03.31 | fungus | hehe, mt |
| 20:06.08 | josephscott | dns is highly under appreciated |
| 20:15.30 | thebigdog | that actually brings up a question, has anyone used the dns services from linode? any comments on that? |
| 20:19.47 | carmony_ | hrm... tacos sounds yummy for lunch, don't they? |
| 20:21.19 | macnewbold | burritos |
| 20:21.55 | mgeary | hey, postfix folks |
| 20:22.10 | mgeary | what would cause this: "/usr/libexec/postfix/proxymap: bad command startup -- throttling" ? |
| 20:23.19 | thebigdog | oh crap |
| 20:23.36 | thebigdog | that is not good |
| 20:23.42 | mgeary | ~smack thebigdog |
| 20:23.42 | ibot | ACTION smacks thebigdog upside the head. |
| 20:24.13 | mgeary | restarting postfix seems to solve the issue, but every couple of days one of my servers gets gummed up with this |
| 20:25.56 | mgeary | got anything constructive to offer, thebigdog ? |
| 20:26.06 | thebigdog | a lot of them or just 1x |
| 20:26.10 | mgeary | a lot |
| 20:26.13 | tierra | thebigdog: I've been using it for years now... started back when they only had 2 name servers, but it's up to 5 now I think |
| 20:26.21 | tierra | never had an issue with it |
| 20:27.41 | tierra | but yeah, you can toss all five in your domain's NS configuration, no extra charge or anything |
| 20:27.48 | thebigdog | cool tierra i am thinking of trying it out and that is good to hear |
| 20:28.03 | thebigdog | is there a limit to what you can and cant do? |
| 20:28.15 | thebigdog | any gotchas you know about that i should be aware |
| 20:28.32 | thebigdog | mgeary that is a process that deals with virtual mappings |
| 20:28.37 | tierra | not as far as I know... unlimited records, no restriction that the A records even point to a Linode... they could be for anyone |
| 20:28.51 | thebigdog | mgeary: is your smtp server chrooted? |
| 20:29.05 | mgeary | thebigdog: i'm not doing any virtual mappings on this machine |
| 20:29.11 | thebigdog | tierra: cool thanks for the info that is extremely helpfull |
| 20:29.12 | mgeary | it's not an email server, just a dev/web server |
| 20:29.21 | mgeary | so it's just for outbound/system emails |
| 20:29.23 | thebigdog | mgeary: virtual alias mappings |
| 20:29.26 | tierra | there's even an API you can use to build your own application to manage the records if you want rather than through the Linode Manager |
| 20:29.35 | tierra | though I've never touched it |
| 20:29.43 | mgeary | thebigdog: you mean /etc/aliases ? |
| 20:30.04 | thebigdog | nope something like postfix/virtual_alias.cf |
| 20:30.24 | thebigdog | mgeary: though that is a throttling issue you are having |
| 20:30.31 | thebigdog | meaning that you are getting many requests for it |
| 20:31.14 | thebigdog | mgeary: are you using mysql for the backend? |
| 20:31.20 | mgeary | http://dpaste.com/281661/ <-- that's everything in my /etc/postfix |
| 20:31.24 | mgeary | thebigdog: no |
| 20:31.45 | mgeary | newdev:postfix mgeary$ cat main.cf | grep mysql |
| 20:31.45 | mgeary | newdev:postfix mgeary$ cat master.cf | grep mysql |
| 20:31.53 | mgeary | both those come up empty |
| 20:33.12 | thebigdog | k one sec |
| 20:34.41 | thebigdog | k you send me out from this postconf -d |
| 20:35.47 | mgeary | sent via IM |
| 21:12.12 | carmony_ | I thikn I need to do a pressy on UX design, and how GT5 has a poor one :P |
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| 21:51.13 | mindjuju | fungus, i forget, is your dog a boy dog or a girl dog? |
| 21:51.19 | mindjuju | seems like you said boy |
| 21:51.25 | fungus | Both boys |
| 21:51.38 | mindjuju | http://www.costumecraze.com/DOG27.html |
| 21:53.10 | fungus | lol, awesome. |
| 21:53.16 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:53.34 | fungus | that would go well on Grep |
| 21:54.48 | fungus | I need a Darth Vader costume for the other dog though. |
| 21:54.58 | mindjuju | i think there is one |
| 21:55.43 | fungus | lol |
| 21:55.44 | mindjuju | http://www.costumecraze.com/DOG26.html |
| 21:56.11 | mindjuju | something about the leia one though, it's spot on |
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| 22:10.41 | mindjuju | oh my gosh! |
| 22:10.56 | mindjuju | every now and then, i find something on youtube, that's amazing |
| 22:11.00 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1RN3cYnY9k |
| 22:11.13 | mindjuju | not rick roll 100% guarantee |
| 22:11.28 | mindjuju | i only heard 1 episode, never seen 'em |
| 22:19.02 | josephscott | mindjuju: haven't seen that in ages |
| 22:19.12 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:19.21 | mindjuju | it's my first time, way different than just the audio |
| 22:19.32 | mindjuju | it seems like the whole episodes are on youtube |
| 22:19.36 | mindjuju | i'm going to have to check those out |
| 22:19.53 | josephscott | if you are looking for bad/cheesey sci fi there is always http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxk-eijXPnQ |
| 22:20.40 | mindjuju | curious |
| 22:20.53 | mindjuju | is this real? |
| 22:21.17 | josephscott | I found it on the scifi channel the other day |
| 22:21.24 | josephscott | I had never heard of it before |
| 22:21.34 | mindjuju | amazing |
| 22:21.41 | josephscott | I hadn't seen scifi that cheesey in some time |
| 22:27.49 | mindjuju | DtD - did you see this? |
| 22:27.50 | mindjuju | http://www.myspace.com/hollywoodrecords#pm_cmp=mce_con_msm_rail3_album_tron |
| 22:28.25 | DexterTheDragon | haven't had a chance to listen yet |
| 22:29.18 | mindjuju | it's like turkey dinner for your ears, it's fantastic! |
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| 22:41.20 | SunSparc | mindjuju: this is cool tunez |
| 22:41.33 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:41.33 | SunSparc | I am excited for TR2N |
| 22:41.42 | mindjuju | like i say, turkey dinner for your ears! |
| 22:41.47 | mindjuju | me too |
| 22:42.02 | mindjuju | i bought uber deluxe soundtrack with glow in dark poster of daft punk |
| 22:42.07 | mindjuju | i'm excited! |
| 22:42.39 | SunSparc | I don't know that my wife will be seeing it with me. Perhaps I will take my oldest. |
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| 22:51.58 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: good stuff |
| 22:59.57 | orsonj | My last day of class (ever) is the day before TR2N comes out. |
| 23:00.17 | orsonj | We're going to watch it for celebration. |
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| 23:23.48 | carmony_ | wow... some of the stuff you can do on the web |
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| 23:27.54 | SunSparc | carmony_: what now |
| 23:27.56 | SunSparc | ? |
| 23:28.42 | carmony_ | http://www.priceofweed.com/ |
| 23:28.45 | carmony_ | SunSparc: lol |
| 23:29.52 | mindjuju | i guess the real question is how many tokes are in an ounce? |
| 23:30.55 | influx | Depends on how hard you toke. |
| 23:31.27 | mindjuju | ah true |
| 23:31.32 | mindjuju | didn't think about that |
| 23:31.44 | influx | :3 |
| 23:31.58 | mindjuju | still, $400 seems like a lot for an ounce |
| 23:32.25 | influx | Yep. |
| 23:32.25 | mindjuju | i always thought it was like $10 for a "bag" |
| 23:32.38 | mindjuju | at least that's what you see in the movies |
| 23:32.47 | mindjuju | sandwich bag filled with herb and $10 |
| 23:33.22 | influx | :) |
| 23:33.46 | mindjuju | yeah, see |
| 23:33.47 | mindjuju | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dime%20bag |
| 23:33.56 | mindjuju | so that's prolly WAY more than an ounce |
| 23:35.04 | mindjuju | that definition 4 on dime bag is hilarious! |
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| 23:38.33 | mindjuju | hi beandog |
| 23:38.37 | beandog | mindjuju, hey |
| 23:41.29 | mindjuju | how was turkey day? |
| 23:42.43 | beandog | good |
| 23:43.11 | beandog | better than most |
| 23:47.44 | mindjuju | glad to hear |
| 23:49.58 | beandog | yarr |
| 23:52.07 | beandog | how you doing |