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16:13.51SunSparc~morning
16:13.51ibotGood morning!
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16:43.59mindjujuso how was HP 7.1 ?
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16:50.20beandogbuenos tacos
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17:10.49beandogI hope my boss doesn't expect a lot this week.
17:10.56beandogMy brain is already in turkey land.
17:11.07mindjujuhi beandog, how as HP 7.1 ?
17:11.12DexterTheDragon~turkey
17:11.24beandogmindjuju, 7.2 was better.
17:11.38mindjujui thought that came out in june?
17:12.10beandogmindjuju, who told you that?
17:12.31mindjujuso 7.1 and 7.2 are both out now?
17:13.05josephscotthttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt1201607/
17:13.08josephscottjuly 2011
17:13.28mindjujuyeah, thought it wasns't out yet
17:13.32mindjujuhow was it josephscott?
17:13.53josephscottenjoyable, better than the last one I thought
17:14.03josephscott2.5 hours, was fairly long
17:14.11beandogmindjuju, I didnt watch it
17:14.18mindjujuoh
17:14.36josephscottoh, and at the very last scene, I really wanted to give out the he-man "I have the power!" yell
17:14.52josephscottyou'll understand when you see it :-)
17:14.56mindjujuso what all about this HP "nsfw" scene, i heard it WASN'T all that
17:15.27josephscottit was, well, completely unnecessary, the nudity that is
17:15.41josephscottit wasn't actually nudity
17:15.45mindjujuah so there was some, i thought it was bikini and such
17:15.54mindjujuand fog
17:16.05josephscottno, there wasn't really, it was all rather lame what they did
17:16.05beandogwell, at least the nudity was on the screen
17:16.11beandogand not in the theater.
17:16.16josephscottbeandog: true :-)
17:16.38mindjujuquote from director was that he wanted an edge to compete with britnay and others
17:16.44mindjujuor something like that
17:17.04beandogmindjuju, IMO, I think it was skillfully done as to create controversy and free PR for the movie.
17:17.16mindjujuprolly
17:17.39beandogThe era of social media makes every "issue" suspect.
17:18.06beandoglol: http://www.helpfulfigures.com/food/
17:21.37beandoghttp://www.helpfulfigures.com/nobel-prize/
17:21.40beandogoh my gosh those are hilarious
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17:24.41mindjujuhow did i miss this?  If you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7txGwoITSj4
17:24.49mindjuju@TSA
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17:28.15SunSparcbeandog: lol, I like the source on the most recent one, "I have a college degree".
17:28.27beandogSunSparc, yes, the sources are awesome :D
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17:35.17carmonywhoa
17:35.22carmonyNovell just got sold?
17:35.32SunSparcWha?!
17:35.45mindjujuwow
17:35.59carmonyhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/whats-microsofts-role-in-the-novell-attachmate-deal/8041?tag=nl.e539
17:36.02carmonythis is the thing I saw
17:36.41mindjujuscary : In  addition, Novell is selling "certain intellectual property assets to  CPTN Holdings LLC, a consortium of technology companies organized by  Microsoft," for $450 million in cash that's part of the payment through  Attachmate.
17:36.41mindjujuRead more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20023535-264.html#ixzz162A7G1wm
17:37.02beandogNovell: The company you can't believe is still around
17:38.50SunSparcSeriously
17:39.06beandogI love Novell there (worked there for a few years)
17:39.11beandog*though
17:39.31mindjujui wonder what IP assets were sold of to M$, hopefully not the underpinnings of Linux
17:41.37beandogmindjuju, meh, who cares.
17:42.02beandogLinux dev's response originall to SCO would be the same: show us the offending code, and we'll rewrite it.
17:42.03beandogDone.
17:42.52beandogIf the people maintaining the actual code don't give a flying flip, then I'm not gonna worry about it either.
17:44.45beandogKeep calm and have a cupcake.
17:44.46beandog:)
17:45.10DexterTheDragonNovell doesn't own any 'underpinnings of Linux', they own UNIX copyrights
17:46.22beandogYour mom's a UNIX copyright
17:47.11beandog~give DexterTheDragon a pie
17:47.11ibotACTION gives DexterTheDragon a home-baked cherry pie with ice cream on the side
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19:12.37beandogHome Alone came out 20 years ago?
19:12.39beandogEek.
19:12.43beandogI remember seeing it in the theater.
19:14.23cachedoutoof. that hurts.
19:14.55beandoghttp://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/74595
19:14.57beandogI got 83%
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19:35.56beandogI wonder if he's flooding or getting flooded.
19:37.08SunSparcWow, 20 years ago?
19:37.17SunSparcYikes.  I only got 50%.
19:48.53ninnypantshow does everyone in here charge for being put on retainer? do you charge for the hours they want reserved 1:1 or do you give a slight discount because of the steady cashflow and the possibilty that they wont use the hours?
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20:09.06macnewboldninnypants: usually buying in bulk will get a better rate - sometimes the better rate is only on the guaranteed commitment, but overage costs normal
20:17.22ninnypantsmacnewbold: ok so giving a better rate is normal if they're paying for the hours even if they don't use them then?
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20:30.40macnewboldninnypants: taht's with the assumption that the "Retainer" is due in full, whether or not they use all of it
20:30.44macnewboldit's a minimum commitment
20:31.02macnewboldi've had people try to get a bulk rate from me at the start, then only do a fraction of the hours they promised
20:31.12macnewboldso i stopped giving better rates until they were proven
20:31.49mindjujuthat's funny
20:33.56mindjuju~chuckfact
20:33.56ibotChuck Norris hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush
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20:41.21ninnypantsmacnewbold: ah ok thanks!
20:41.27wpsthis is so me next time I fly: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/going-commando.ars
20:41.31mindjuju~macnewbold++
20:41.39wps"Going commando" on the TSA
20:41.47macnewboldeww
20:42.16mindjujuthere was a guy, i think in SLC, that dropped down to his biker short type underwear
20:42.25mindjujuthey made him get dressed, and then gropped him
20:42.27mindjuju:(
20:43.18mindjujupersonally, if it were me, i'd make them PAY for every moment down there by eating a barrel of chili just before standing in line
20:43.34mindjujuand then, just throw modesty out the window
20:44.07mindjujusounds like there are 2 pats in front from the front,and 2 in the rear from the rear
20:44.08macnewbold~tunafart TSA
20:44.08ibotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to TSA, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
20:44.58mindjujuin fact, now that i think about it, i had a comp who'd raise his leg every time he'd let 'em rip, that might be appropriate here
20:47.59mindjujuthe real funny thing about the TSA though is that they keep publishing that overall, public acceptance has been high and no major probs, whilst public polls elsewhere say strongly the opposite
20:48.41ninnypantsprobably because everyone is to embarased to make any real complaint while in the airport
20:53.18_psychic_there's a loud minority
20:53.32_psychic_best approach is to not fly, if you really want to make a difference, imho
20:53.41cachedouta loud minority ON THE INTERNET?!?
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20:53.43cachedoutimpossible
20:54.32ninnypantsnot flying would definately do the most to change things
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21:00.31macnewboldbut it also is one of the more painful ways to approach it, since you have to take 4x-10x longer driving everywhere instead.
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21:11.23stderr[IND]The fact that all of you guys want to harass the TSA workers is shameful.
21:11.24stderr[IND]It's not their fault.
21:12.23beandogagreed
21:12.31beandogit's like spitting in the cashier's face because your chips aren't on sale.
21:12.46beandoghassling the lowest worker isn't gonna change upper management policy
21:13.06beandogDangit.  Now I wanna spit in someone's face.
21:13.12stderrThe pay for the workers who do screenings in the TSA is around 19-20k.
21:13.14SunSparcYeah, don't harass TSA agents.  Harass your elected officials.
21:13.19stderr^
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21:13.54stderrExactly.  Take it up with your congressman (or woman).  People need to stop being juvenile, rude, and downright cruel.
21:14.07cachedoutalso, this: http://www.slate.com/id/2275681/
21:14.15SunSparcMy congressman already got my message and is on the ball.
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21:15.39SunSparcI opt-out by not flying.
21:15.45beandog@ops bah, someone ban him plz? kthx
21:17.14DexterTheDragon~ban beandog
21:18.07beandogbuh :@
21:22.09DexterTheDragonbeandog: halp. I've been eated by amazon black friday deals
21:23.00beandogDexterTheDragon, whut?  are they having them already?
21:23.13beandogEEK
21:23.23DexterTheDragonyep it started today
21:23.26beandogACK
21:23.38DexterTheDragonhide yo credit cards
21:23.40beandogThink of all the useless stuff I don't need that I missed out on!
21:23.43beandogDexterTheDragon, lol
21:23.56beandogbah its not loading.
21:24.00beandog~smack amazon
21:24.00ibotACTION smacks amazon upside the head.
21:24.41beandogTerminator Salvation Bluray for $10
21:24.42beandogI'm tempted.
21:24.50beandogLOTR bluray for $8
21:24.59beandogV for Vendetta bluray, $8
21:25.00beandogeek
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21:29.03beandoghuh.  doesnt look like Ive missed much so far.
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21:34.11beandoghttp://shirt.woot.com/
21:34.12beandogLOL.  want.
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22:07.29SunSparcmindjuju: here is some techno for you http://www.thesixtyone.com/#/s/lm9TobKRRuc/
22:13.25mindjujufunny
22:14.05SunSparc;)
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22:55.57mindjuju~lart carmony
22:55.57ibotdrops a baby grand on carmony
22:56.00carmonyLOL
22:56.03mindjujuthere you go carmony
22:56.05mindjuju:)
22:56.30josephscott:-)
22:56.35josephscott~jedi carmony
22:56.35ibotACTION zaps carmony with her Jedi powers
22:56.56ninnypantsibot is a girl?
22:57.24mindjujui've always thought ibot was a boy dating a fembot, but ibots gender switches based on factoid / command
22:57.50josephscottso ibot is a female sith lord
22:58.42mindjuju~ibot
22:58.42ibotIt's me
22:58.47mindjuju~jbot
22:58.47ibotextra, extra, read all about it, jbot is a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or  [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass
22:59.02mindjujusee that dating the fembots, i added that
22:59.08josephscott~jedi
22:59.08ibotpatience, young padawan
22:59.12mindjujunice
23:00.33beandogmindjuju, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egiAL9q9qh8
23:00.50beandogdon't anyone else watch that, it's for mindjuju OnLy!
23:01.00beandog~shun
23:01.49mindjujuthat's awesome!
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23:51.12orsonjI think the A/C in my office is capable of doing that.

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