| 00:00.02 | mindjuju | Whew! and that's where we are |
| 00:00.11 | mindjuju | unsettled with tons of great ideas on the table |
| 00:00.16 | beandog | fungus, have you been to the megaplex in s. jordan? |
| 00:00.19 | beandog | that place is pretty awesome. |
| 00:00.25 | beandog | well, it's *nice* |
| 00:00.34 | mindjuju | you know |
| 00:00.37 | beandog | I love the drive thru ticket sales. |
| 00:00.38 | fungus | you mean riverton? |
| 00:00.39 | mindjuju | we could do HP then beligan |
| 00:00.44 | supernovia | Ooooh llah |
| 00:00.44 | beandog | fungus, oh is that riverton? |
| 00:00.52 | beandog | I get the cities mixed up. |
| 00:00.56 | beandog | belgian waffle is good |
| 00:00.59 | beandog | the waitresses are hawt. |
| 00:01.02 | supernovia | lol |
| 00:01.05 | fungus | there r 3 megaplexes. Sandy, Downtown, and riverton |
| 00:01.16 | beandog | fungus, theres only three? |
| 00:01.22 | beandog | fungus, what about thanksigiving point? |
| 00:01.44 | fungus | is that a megaplex? It doesn't count. it's too far south to matter. :) |
| 00:01.46 | mindjuju | so which theater we going to @fungus @beandog @DtD @supernovia |
| 00:01.54 | beandog | my vote is for riverton |
| 00:01.58 | beandog | its massive and nice. |
| 00:02.05 | mindjuju | @josephscott ^ @herlo @me and everybody else in chan |
| 00:02.43 | josephscott | I'm going to HP7.1 on Friday evening |
| 00:03.10 | fungus | I don't care where or when. Just point me in a direction and shoot. |
| 00:03.25 | mindjuju | HP 7.1 @ jordon common then beligan |
| 00:03.33 | mindjuju | they're close to each other and the seats are comfy |
| 00:03.59 | fungus | We should probably buy tickets early then. That one sells out often on fridays for big movies. |
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| 00:04.20 | josephscott | jordan commons is already sold out |
| 00:04.24 | supernovia | really? |
| 00:04.27 | fungus | see, i told ya |
| 00:04.27 | josephscott | they were sold out last week |
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| 00:04.54 | supernovia | what about that other one beandog mentioned? |
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| 00:05.21 | josephscott | that's why we are going to Century 16 on 1300 |
| 00:05.28 | josephscott | on Friday, because they had tickets |
| 00:05.31 | herlo | josephscott: 3300?? |
| 00:05.36 | herlo | not 1300 |
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| 00:05.46 | josephscott | 7670 Union Park Ave |
| 00:05.52 | josephscott | that's basically 1300 east |
| 00:05.52 | herlo | oh, 1300 east |
| 00:06.00 | herlo | I was thinking 3300 S State |
| 00:06.05 | herlo | they have an IMAX too |
| 00:06.07 | herlo | iirc |
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| 00:06.17 | herlo | it's also Century 16 |
| 00:06.19 | josephscott | no assigned seating though, so we'll getting there early |
| 00:06.27 | herlo | indeed |
| 00:06.29 | supernovia | that's a lot of cold oatmeal |
| 00:06.49 | herlo | supernovia: who is that? Let's kick ban them until they fix their network problem... |
| 00:07.13 | herlo | or we could tell ibot to stop saying hello |
| 00:07.20 | supernovia | hehe |
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| 00:07.51 | supernovia | oh noes, I think I had one bite too many of my lemon-rosemary hummus â¦. *sore tongue* :-o |
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| 00:14.20 | fungus | herlo, Century doesn't have an IMAX, but they have 3D projectors |
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| 00:14.42 | fungus | neither Century does IMAX, not even fake IMAX like the Megaplexes |
| 00:16.28 | fungus | But Century does have very good theaters. Not the best, but very good. Also, they rarely sell out. |
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| 00:55.49 | beandog | fungus, Id rather go for assigned seating and not worry about it |
| 00:56.32 | fungus | beandog, but if you go for assigned seating you don't get a seat at all. |
| 00:56.44 | fungus | Those theaters sell out the fastest |
| 00:57.06 | beandog | oh yah? |
| 00:57.06 | beandog | k |
| 00:57.40 | fungus | a hard fought seat is better than no seat. :) |
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| 00:58.34 | fungus | non opening weekends, or unpopular movies are great for those theaters though. |
| 00:59.15 | herlo | fungus: for TRON, they'll sell out. At least on opening weekend |
| 00:59.26 | fungus | definitely |
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| 03:41.06 | beandog | herlo: ping |
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| 03:43.01 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart beandog |
| 03:43.01 | ibot | slaps beandog upside the head with a wet fish |
| 03:43.26 | beandog | buh :@ |
| 03:43.34 | beandog | what did I ever do |
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| 03:44.45 | beandog | is mindjuju still having net issues |
| 03:47.07 | beandog | herlo: unping, Imma afk |
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| 08:33.00 | maxpert | which one is better mdb2 or pdo? |
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| 15:59.06 | mindjuju | :( |
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| 15:59.47 | l2j | did you update pidgin or something? |
| 16:00.03 | mindjuju | nope, not for some weeks, |
| 16:00.18 | mindjuju | just clear out of the blue, we're talking about harry potter and then pow, it shuts down |
| 16:00.30 | mindjuju | and then as i try to bring it back up, it just immediately shuts down |
| 16:00.46 | mindjuju | i forgot to disable accounts and see if it was the application, so i did that this morning |
| 16:00.46 | l2j | hmm, I have been having problems when minimizing pidgin and I cant get it back, its there but it just wont show |
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| 16:01.06 | mindjuju | right now just running work and IRC, nothing else |
| 16:01.17 | mindjuju | work (xmpp) |
| 16:02.19 | l2j | same here |
| 16:02.44 | mindjuju | i think it might have something to do with an MSN cert |
| 16:02.48 | mindjuju | but not sure |
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| 16:05.12 | l2j | at the company I work for, my boss just sent an email blaming the software outage we had because of the d.o.s on register.com on the team I am on |
| 16:05.37 | l2j | sent it to the VP, everyone on our team, and our support team |
| 16:05.47 | l2j | how nice eh? good morale booster |
| 16:06.00 | mindjuju | oh man, that sux |
| 16:07.07 | l2j | slap that on top of the diggs he has made to anyone not graduating from the UofU lol |
| 16:07.34 | l2j | I have a bs software engineering from Weber State |
| 16:07.48 | mindjuju | sounds like a punk |
| 16:08.09 | l2j | and part this place like romanovic did lol |
| 16:08.36 | mindjuju | yeah, me and my last employer, very similar |
| 16:09.28 | mindjuju | i can handle working long hours, i can handle doing research on my own time, i can handle the responisibility, but i can't handle kissing butt, can't being thrown under the bus for every project that had an issue out of my sphere |
| 16:09.40 | l2j | yeah |
| 16:10.03 | l2j | plus I could double my pay if I worked pretty much anywhere else lol |
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| 16:28.41 | mindjuju | so wait, is it true that centos stores its network conf in /etc/sysconfig/network ? |
| 16:28.52 | mindjuju | where does it know dhcp or static? |
| 16:30.49 | carmony | My life is finally... complete... |
| 16:30.59 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 16:31.04 | carmony | my justin@justincarmony.com Google Apps account is now a full Google Account |
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| 16:41.13 | jsmith | mindjuju: In /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 |
| 16:41.43 | mindjuju | ah thx! |
| 16:42.12 | carmony | josephscott: have you transitioned your Google Apps account to become a full Google Account? |
| 16:42.50 | josephscott | no idea, I've tried a few other their different merge options, so far I've determined their accounts system is one giant mess |
| 16:43.13 | carmony | well, mine is working :P |
| 16:43.19 | josephscott | so I'm not sure what its current condition is, other than it breaks in a major way about once a week (or more) |
| 16:43.37 | carmony | did you have a Google Apps account AND a Personal Google Account under the same email address? |
| 16:43.54 | josephscott | no |
| 16:43.54 | josephscott | joseph@josephscott.org is Apps |
| 16:43.55 | josephscott | josephscott@gmail is gmail |
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| 16:44.56 | josephscott | and I've got a few others because Google doesn't allow one account to work every where |
| 16:44.56 | josephscott | so I have another for GWO |
| 16:44.56 | josephscott | it is a giant pain |
| 16:44.57 | josephscott | the single biggest problem I have with google right now is their very damaged accounts system |
| 16:44.58 | josephscott | ~lart google |
| 16:44.58 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after google's head |
| 16:47.22 | josephscott | carmony: where did you do the merge? |
| 16:47.35 | SunSparc | Only had a couple with conflicts |
| 16:47.49 | carmony | on google.com/a/justincarmony.com |
| 16:48.35 | josephscott | looking at my dashboard now |
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| 16:48.39 | carmony | hrm.... |
| 16:48.50 | carmony | though it looks like it didn't merge a bunch of my stuff |
| 16:49.41 | josephscott | looks like they will force everyone to do the transition next year, may as well break everything now then |
| 16:50.39 | josephscott | carmony: lots of little gotchas - http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=181867 |
| 16:51.24 | carmony | yeah, well it won't affect your gmail account |
| 16:51.24 | SunSparc | They said they will do the migration for us in "the Fall". Which is now. ;) |
| 16:52.03 | josephscott | unless you paid for the space upgrade |
| 16:52.28 | josephscott | which won't transfer to google apps, even if you already paid for it |
| 16:52.46 | carmony | lol |
| 16:53.22 | josephscott | don't get me wrong, they have a giant problem that is not easy to solve, but in large part they made it much worse that it should have been to begin with |
| 16:53.30 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:53.42 | carmony | they should have started out with Google Apps being full accounts |
| 16:53.51 | josephscott | which I can say because I don't have to be the one to support it ;-) |
| 16:54.14 | josephscott | other peoples problems are so much easier to complain about |
| 16:54.24 | josephscott | carmony: how is redis doing? |
| 16:54.40 | carmony | bah, that project has been sidelined by another one |
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| 17:00.05 | carmony | lol, Father-In-Law made the paper |
| 17:00.07 | carmony | http://www.standard.net/topics/events/2010/11/17/south-ogden-reconcile-spending-versus-revenue |
| 17:02.02 | mgeary | Litz? or Dixon? |
| 17:02.07 | carmony | Litz |
| 17:04.35 | mgeary | someone in that position probably often brings bad news |
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| 17:27.40 | josephscott | for the DB geeks in the house http://josephscott.org/archives/2010/11/php-sql-parser/ |
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| 17:46.38 | mindjuju | @DtD - finally a decent techno remix of carmina burena - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inubas2C6QA |
| 17:47.04 | mindjuju | ilove orchestra and techno, mindblowing |
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| 17:52.22 | mindjuju | sup beandog, sorry i left on you guys during planning, my pidgin crashed hard, couldn't get it working until this morning |
| 17:52.28 | mindjuju | what did you guys decide? |
| 17:53.06 | beandog | dunno |
| 18:00.22 | mindjuju | i could sure use a recess's peanut butter cup |
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| 18:16.02 | Utah_Dave | ~peanutbutter mindjuju |
| 18:16.03 | herlo | reese's |
| 18:16.14 | mindjuju | thx utah_Dave |
| 18:16.16 | mindjuju | i appreciate that |
| 18:16.25 | herlo | never heard of a recess peanut butter cup :P |
| 18:16.25 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:16.29 | Utah_Dave | anytime, bro! |
| 18:16.32 | herlo | though that would rock! |
| 18:16.42 | herlo | a peanut butter cup you get at recess |
| 18:16.57 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:17.17 | mindjuju | i want something spicy for lunch today |
| 18:18.20 | carmony | Mmm.... Thai... |
| 18:18.52 | mindjuju | thai might be nice |
| 18:19.00 | mindjuju | i'll have to look for somewhere close by |
| 18:19.51 | mgeary | wheeha, maturation clinic today |
| 18:24.34 | mindjuju | this is actually a very good presentation of carmina burana - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEllLECo4OM&NR=1 |
| 18:24.44 | cedwards | anyone have any improvements to this email validation regex: "/^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i" |
| 18:24.57 | herlo | mindjuju: jasmine is supposed to be opening up at like 200 W 800 N. It's where the old Thai Chili Gardens used to be. |
| 18:25.18 | herlo | not sure if it's up... |
| 18:26.08 | mindjuju | i'll have to check it out |
| 18:27.14 | fungus | cedwards, that will work for most email addresses, but there are several cases in which it could fail. |
| 18:27.33 | fungus | http://www.regular-expressions.info/email.html |
| 18:27.48 | herlo | mindjuju: not sure if it's open yet, but the *original* people who started TCG in provo are opening Jasmine, which makes me excited! |
| 18:28.08 | fungus | However depending on the audience of your app these edge cases may not matter. |
| 18:30.47 | stderr | http://railsforzombies.org/ |
| 18:32.49 | herlo | stderr: nice |
| 18:35.23 | cedwards | fungus: yeah, I've read that disclaimer. Just wondering if anyone here has built on it to address those extras, without making it too dirty. |
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| 18:50.20 | mgeary | hey, i've got a client who wants to see if we can accept some server hardware to credit against their account. Besides just searching on eBay for past sales, do y'all have any ideas on how to best stick a value on computer hardware? |
| 18:50.46 | mindjuju | tested or untested? |
| 18:50.54 | mgeary | ? |
| 18:51.15 | mindjuju | i've got a dell 1950 in my server room, it's got water damage, but would you know that until you plugged it in |
| 18:51.26 | mindjuju | there are NO outwardly signs |
| 18:51.35 | mgeary | heh, more to the point, how would you know *after* you plugged it in? |
| 18:51.43 | macnewbold | mgeary: depends how much the hardware is worth _to_you_ not what it's worth on ebay. If it's selling for $300 on ebay, but you don't really need it, it might be worth $0, $50, etc. |
| 18:51.44 | mindjuju | is the equipment tested? do you know it works |
| 18:51.51 | mgeary | the hardware is all here in my office. i need to plug it in and check it out |
| 18:52.07 | mgeary | macnewbold: point taken, but even so, an objective reference is useful |
| 18:52.30 | mindjuju | what kind of equipment is it? |
| 18:52.52 | macnewbold | true |
| 18:52.53 | cachedout | bear in mind, if you're going to declare it as income on your taxes you need to know the fair market value |
| 18:53.02 | cachedout | we generally just use ebay for that |
| 18:53.10 | mgeary | some Xserves, an HP 1U server, and a 10-bay storage monster (SAN?) |
| 18:57.25 | beandog | SunSparc, that is epic win |
| 18:57.33 | beandog | http://www.toplessrobot.com/2010/11/how_to_talk_to_your_kids_about_star_wars.php |
| 18:57.49 | stderr | SunSparc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRVFiEZlL10 |
| 18:59.24 | SunSparc | beandog: :) |
| 19:00.12 | SunSparc | stderr: lol, awesome! |
| 19:01.12 | SunSparc | stderr: Is Black Ops any better than MW2? I have yet to get it. |
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| 19:02.49 | cedwards | wee! I have 1700 geek points that need to be spent. Any suggestions? :) |
| 19:03.15 | mindjuju | unicorn keychain |
| 19:03.18 | SunSparc | cedwards: I got a long wishlist... ;) |
| 19:03.22 | mindjuju | annoy-a-tron is fun |
| 19:03.44 | SunSparc | Unicorn meat is in. |
| 19:04.06 | cedwards | mindjuju: we had an annoy-a-tron at the office once. It ended up under someones boot :( |
| 19:04.28 | mindjuju | that's too bad, annoy a tron 2.0 is a great deal of fun |
| 19:04.33 | mindjuju | i had somebody going for days |
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| 19:04.40 | mindjuju | first the cricket sound, then the beep |
| 19:05.59 | SunSparc | cedwards: https://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/itdepartment/57f0/ |
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| 19:07.42 | cedwards | I like this, if my wife would approve: http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/6806/ |
| 19:08.00 | SunSparc | cedwards: I really want one of these: https://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/9520/ |
| 19:10.42 | mgeary | quack |
| 19:12.43 | cedwards | out of stock :( |
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| 19:20.31 | mindjuju | DtD, you around? |
| 19:27.57 | carmony | SunSparc: its pretty good |
| 19:29.53 | SunSparc | carmony: Black Ops |
| 19:30.02 | carmony | yup, I got it for PC |
| 19:31.25 | SunSparc | Right on. |
| 19:31.30 | carmony | I still think MW was my favorite |
| 19:32.18 | carmony | just because it was so new and different |
| 19:32.44 | SunSparc | Yeah, MW was and still is really good. |
| 19:33.08 | mindjuju | i'll have to see if i can spare time away from TF2 to try it |
| 19:33.15 | mindjuju | its prolly cheap on steam |
| 19:33.35 | SunSparc | MW? |
| 19:33.42 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 19:33.42 | SunSparc | Could be, but doubtful. |
| 19:34.12 | mindjuju | well, i don't mean cheaper than somewhere else, but i mean since there is a new game out, usually the older ones go down |
| 19:34.15 | SunSparc | mindjuju: You still TF2 quite a bit? |
| 19:34.29 | stderr | SunSparc: Black Ops is slightly inferior to MW2, imho |
| 19:34.41 | mindjuju | well, i played for an hour last night, but lately i haven't been able to play, but like an hour a week :( |
| 19:34.49 | mindjuju | too busy getting caught up and doing UTOS stuff |
| 19:34.51 | stderr | there are some pretty cool things about it though |
| 19:35.29 | mindjuju | @sunsparc, you're right, $59 - http://store.steampowered.com/app/10180/ |
| 19:35.31 | mindjuju | ouch! |
| 19:36.27 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Shame, work getting in the way? |
| 19:36.51 | mindjuju | work + school + family + church + utos |
| 19:36.53 | mindjuju | whew! |
| 19:36.59 | SunSparc | stderr: Yeah, I have heard mixed reviews about it, kinda why I have not jumped in yet. What do you like about it? |
| 19:37.34 | mindjuju | some day when i'm floating around in my sailboat around bora bora, i'll think about these days for a moment, and then go back to sleep (won't get up until past 12p) |
| 19:37.36 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Just drop everything in the middle... ;) |
| 19:37.38 | stderr | SunSparc: I really like the map design, I like the money system, and I like how they've nerfed various cheap aspects of the game (scanvenger + noob tube, etc) |
| 19:38.02 | stderr | if they can fix their spawn algorithm, I believe it'll be better than MW2 |
| 19:38.23 | stderr | they've mostly fixed the other complaints I had about it (footstep audio, matchmaking) |
| 19:38.25 | SunSparc | mindjuju: lol |
| 19:38.36 | SunSparc | stderr: How did noob tube get nerfed? |
| 19:39.11 | stderr | scavenger doesn't give you noob tube ammo, and they bumped up the effectiveness of the flak jacket perk |
| 19:39.40 | SunSparc | I am pretty sure I will get a copy eventually. It's in my blood. |
| 19:39.45 | influx | What was your complaint about footstep audio? |
| 19:40.03 | stderr | not loud enough, especially with ninja pro equipped |
| 19:40.07 | influx | Also, I loled when I realized it's possible to have scavenger and claymores. |
| 19:40.21 | stderr | MW1 / MW2 I could nearly play blindfolded |
| 19:40.30 | influx | In MW2* |
| 19:40.49 | SunSparc | heh, nice. Noob tube always bugged me anyway. |
| 19:41.22 | SunSparc | influx: Yeah, I actually used that to my advantage a few times. Except they had a limit on how many claymores you could place. |
| 19:42.09 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: pong |
| 19:42.31 | stderr | claymores have gotten a bit more powerful too |
| 19:42.32 | mindjuju | oh i found it, i couldn't remember hybridized.org |
| 19:42.43 | mindjuju | thx anyways thought DtD^ |
| 19:42.50 | stderr | the audible click when you trip them is so quiet that it's nearly impossible to react to them like I used to |
| 19:43.18 | SunSparc | stderr: MORE powerful? Wow |
| 19:44.01 | SunSparc | stderr: That is could, because running away was fairly easy before. |
| 19:44.51 | SunSparc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.31 | carmony | mindjuju: what server do you play tf2 on? |
| 19:46.35 | influx | How does the spawn system work? |
| 19:47.22 | mindjuju | several, i don't have them listed, but i usually play 2fort or variants there of, tubine, etc |
| 19:47.24 | mindjuju | you play? |
| 19:48.35 | mindjuju | @carmony^^ |
| 19:49.26 | carmony | mindjuju: oh yeah |
| 19:49.29 | carmony | haven't in awhile |
| 19:49.38 | carmony | but I used to play a lot when it first came out |
| 19:49.45 | carmony | but I'd be willing to pick it up again :P |
| 19:49.45 | mindjuju | we should play this weekend |
| 19:49.56 | mindjuju | or even better, next weekend |
| 19:50.00 | mindjuju | give you time to practice |
| 19:50.03 | carmony | haha |
| 19:50.08 | carmony | what classes do you play? |
| 19:50.21 | mindjuju | pyro, scout and spy |
| 19:50.29 | mindjuju | engy if necessary |
| 19:50.33 | carmony | I can't spy worth crap |
| 19:50.52 | carmony | I pyro, soldier, sniper |
| 19:50.55 | mindjuju | prolly same problem i had for a LONG time, i didn't act like a spy |
| 19:51.08 | mindjuju | i acted like i was acting head on |
| 19:51.15 | mindjuju | and so was quite obvious |
| 19:51.29 | mindjuju | err, meant, i was acting headon like with pyro |
| 19:51.32 | mindjuju | or an assault class |
| 19:51.34 | carmony | yeah |
| 19:52.15 | mindjuju | but if you go on youtube and watch spy videos, you'll get better |
| 19:52.22 | mindjuju | i'm not where i need to be, but i'm alright |
| 19:52.58 | mindjuju | @carmony, do you play Garry's Mod any? |
| 19:53.09 | carmony | haha, I have in the past! |
| 19:53.19 | carmony | that is one fun game |
| 19:53.49 | mindjuju | oh yeah, last weekend i modified the fan boat, put some rockets underneath it, and used it to fly around the map, did that for like an hour |
| 19:58.01 | mindjuju | i wish i was cool enough to wear a beret, i don't have a mean enough face - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4 |
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| 20:06.06 | mindjuju | is there a way to backup mysql database using sql? i'm looking for something that would do schema and data, not finding anything |
| 20:06.24 | mindjuju | i'm guessing phpmyadmin puts it together using PHP? |
| 20:07.21 | mgeary | who knew Survivor rehearsed in such a crappy neighborhood? |
| 20:07.28 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:08.21 | thebigdog | mindjuju: you can backup mysql database with commandline |
| 20:08.26 | mindjuju | i know |
| 20:08.30 | mindjuju | but i want to do it in sql |
| 20:09.03 | thebigdog | k |
| 20:09.12 | mindjuju | no es possible? |
| 20:09.19 | thebigdog | i dont think there are commands in sql to do it |
| 20:09.35 | mindjuju | so i'd have to piecemeal it together |
| 20:09.44 | mindjuju | ask for schema, dump to file, ask for data, dump to file |
| 20:09.54 | mindjuju | i guess that means all the insert statements, php is creating |
| 20:09.59 | mindjuju | within phpmyadmin |
| 20:10.02 | thebigdog | yeah you can write a script to do it |
| 20:10.11 | fungus | mindjuju, mysqldump? |
| 20:10.18 | mindjuju | darn, had hoped to do it just in sql |
| 20:10.20 | thebigdog | ask mgeary he has a great one from what i hear |
| 20:10.33 | mindjuju | @fungus, nah, i need to try to keep it in sql |
| 20:10.42 | fungus | like a stored proc? |
| 20:10.48 | thebigdog | sql should not define how to do backups |
| 20:11.19 | fungus | There is a SELECT INTO OUTFILE, but thats for exporting to CSV kinda thing. Not backup. |
| 20:11.38 | mindjuju | yeah, it's a step in the right direction, but not quite where i wanted to go |
| 20:12.01 | mindjuju | i'll have to see if i can download phpmyadmin and see what they do to do it |
| 20:12.03 | fungus | Why must your backup be initiated via SQL? that makes no sense to me. |
| 20:12.32 | fungus | mindjuju, phpmyadmin generates SQL queries. |
| 20:12.34 | thebigdog | it really does not |
| 20:12.54 | fungus | mindjuju, do you really mean you need the backup initiated via PHP? |
| 20:21.25 | l2j | any idea how to get a thickbox to launch when the onClick of a checkbox event happens? |
| 20:22.45 | l2j | I have only launched it from an link before |
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| 20:54.06 | l2j | yeah but did you find anything |
| 20:54.12 | l2j | there is a reason I am asking here... |
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| 21:06.24 | SunSparc | Hatch! That punk. |
| 21:08.05 | SunSparc | Here is where to tell him he is a punk: http://hatch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Offices.Contact |
| 21:09.13 | DexterTheDragon | well SunSparc's about to have a block on his ip |
| 21:09.21 | SunSparc | Bring it! |
| 21:09.30 | ninnypants | since it's a violation of the first amendment shouldn't they be terminated for breaknig their oath? I,___ ___ , do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will |
| 21:09.49 | ninnypants | not that it really matters in current politics :( |
| 21:10.59 | josephscott | hatch was the guy who said the RIAA should have the right to reach out over the Internet and physically destroy your computer |
| 21:11.52 | mindjuju | oh hatch, how low have you gone just so the RIAA would allow your music cd into stores |
| 21:11.54 | mindjuju | :( |
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| 21:12.55 | mindjuju | ~lart poeticintensity |
| 21:12.55 | ibot | beats poeticintensity to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 21:13.01 | PoeticIntensity | what the...? |
| 21:13.11 | PoeticIntensity | oh..... this is UPHPU.. Gotcha. :) |
| 21:13.19 | mindjuju | yeah, you got larted, it was me |
| 21:13.22 | mindjuju | bring it, yo |
| 21:13.23 | PoeticIntensity | how the heck are ya, mindjuju ? |
| 21:13.25 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 21:13.30 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:13.37 | mindjuju | feeling scrappy |
| 21:13.40 | PoeticIntensity | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 21:13.40 | ibot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 21:13.43 | PoeticIntensity | did that help? |
| 21:14.16 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 21:14.16 | ibot | makes a balloon animal out of mgeary |
| 21:14.31 | PoeticIntensity | I've been reveling in cake goodness every day since I started this new job. |
| 21:14.49 | PoeticIntensity | just about having to dive in to the wonderful world of .net. |
| 21:14.51 | mindjuju | how are things at blendtec? |
| 21:14.51 | PoeticIntensity | (again) |
| 21:14.55 | PoeticIntensity | going very well. |
| 21:15.03 | mindjuju | do you get your own blender? |
| 21:15.07 | PoeticIntensity | yes sir. |
| 21:15.09 | PoeticIntensity | after 90 days. |
| 21:15.14 | mindjuju | oh man, i'm jealous |
| 21:15.19 | PoeticIntensity | still got 1.76 months to get mine. |
| 21:15.49 | PoeticIntensity | how's life treating you, mindjuju ? |
| 21:16.00 | mindjuju | i'm good |
| 21:16.05 | mindjuju | busy |
| 21:16.07 | mindjuju | but good |
| 21:16.18 | PoeticIntensity | school? |
| 21:16.24 | mindjuju | getting caught up |
| 21:16.35 | mindjuju | a little behind, but i'll catch up over thxgiving |
| 21:16.37 | mindjuju | you? |
| 21:17.06 | PoeticIntensity | I graduated in 2003, and haven't looked back. |
| 21:17.06 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 21:17.16 | PoeticIntensity | life is good, though. |
| 21:17.20 | PoeticIntensity | studio is doing fabulously.... |
| 21:17.33 | PoeticIntensity | working on another project with a great musician. |
| 21:17.39 | PoeticIntensity | www.herodthefink.com |
| 21:17.42 | mindjuju | got any samples of herod the fink? |
| 21:17.45 | PoeticIntensity | oh yes. |
| 21:17.52 | beandog | SunSparc, Hatch is truly evil. |
| 21:17.54 | beandog | Ugh. |
| 21:17.55 | PoeticIntensity | herodthefink.bandcamp.com |
| 21:17.55 | beandog | He needs to go. |
| 21:18.01 | DexterTheDragon | ~evil beandog |
| 21:18.10 | beandog | ~stab DexterTheDragon |
| 21:18.10 | ibot | ACTION runs at DexterTheDragon with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 21:18.13 | PoeticIntensity | got videos too, mindjuju |
| 21:18.19 | SunSparc | beandog: I just wrote him a message telling him I was unhappy with his decision. |
| 21:18.19 | PoeticIntensity | did two shows last weekend... |
| 21:18.19 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 21:18.26 | PoeticIntensity | sold 22 CDs! |
| 21:18.27 | PoeticIntensity | woo hoo! |
| 21:18.32 | DexterTheDragon | ~lick beandog |
| 21:18.32 | ibot | ACTION licks beandog *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 21:18.33 | mindjuju | a song about snow? i'm going to have to switch it |
| 21:18.37 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, don't forget the three I stole. |
| 21:18.38 | mindjuju | i'm morally against snow |
| 21:18.52 | PoeticIntensity | er? |
| 21:18.59 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, surprise! |
| 21:19.01 | PoeticIntensity | we wrote a song about snow? |
| 21:19.23 | mindjuju | under the lights, snow is coming down |
| 21:19.30 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, reap what you sow. |
| 21:19.33 | PoeticIntensity | AHH.. |
| 21:19.34 | PoeticIntensity | yes. |
| 21:19.40 | PoeticIntensity | you love it, and you know it. |
| 21:19.59 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, go back to bed |
| 21:20.01 | beandog | sicko |
| 21:20.10 | beandog | ~sneeze DexterTheDragon |
| 21:20.14 | beandog | :) |
| 21:20.23 | beandog | ~germs DexterTheDragon |
| 21:20.30 | beandog | stupid ibot |
| 21:20.33 | DexterTheDragon | ~infect beandog |
| 21:20.33 | ibot | ACTION makes a cut on beandog's arm, rubs dirt and grime into it, and sews it back up |
| 21:20.43 | beandog | buh :@ |
| 21:20.47 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, you'll have to tell me what ya think of the site / videos / songs / etc... |
| 21:20.49 | beandog | where's the love |
| 21:21.00 | mindjuju | will do! |
| 21:21.05 | DexterTheDragon | ~love beandog |
| 21:21.05 | ibot | If you love beandog so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 21:21.06 | PoeticIntensity | yeah DexterTheDragon, that was just cruel. |
| 21:21.10 | DexterTheDragon | there it is |
| 21:21.24 | beandog | ~forgive DexterTheDragon |
| 21:21.25 | ibot | Remember, it is better to forgive DexterTheDragon than to receive. |
| 21:21.44 | PoeticIntensity | ibot has issues. |
| 21:21.49 | PoeticIntensity | ~kill ibot |
| 21:21.49 | ibot | ACTION shoots a excited fluxtachyon gun at ibot |
| 21:21.58 | mindjuju | ~jub jub |
| 21:21.59 | PoeticIntensity | huh... it worked. |
| 21:22.13 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju does the jubby dance. |
| 21:22.29 | mindjuju | i hate the jub jub song and the jub jub dance |
| 21:22.36 | PoeticIntensity | jub jub? |
| 21:22.38 | mindjuju | it's the worst thing that ever happened to the 80s |
| 21:22.47 | PoeticIntensity | glad I have no idea what you're talking about, then. |
| 21:22.55 | beandog | ~fail PoeticIntensity |
| 21:22.55 | ibot | PoeticIntensity, you Fail! |
| 21:23.01 | beandog | Star Wras |
| 21:23.03 | beandog | whoops |
| 21:23.05 | beandog | ~fail |
| 21:23.05 | ibot | FAIL. |
| 21:23.18 | PoeticIntensity | yup.... guess I failed. |
| 21:23.20 | mindjuju | yup, jub jub song is the song at end of return of the jedi |
| 21:23.30 | PoeticIntensity | hrm.... |
| 21:23.33 | PoeticIntensity | like the credit song? |
| 21:23.38 | beandog | Its the end of your dreams. And the beginning of a nightmare. |
| 21:23.46 | mindjuju | true dat |
| 21:23.51 | mindjuju | pi, i'll find it for you |
| 21:23.56 | PoeticIntensity | I'd google it, if I wasn't listening to some seriously good trance. |
| 21:24.04 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, it'll have to wait. :) |
| 21:24.18 | mindjuju | pi, what chan you listening to for good trance? |
| 21:24.21 | mindjuju | ravetrax.com? |
| 21:24.28 | PoeticIntensity | my own collection. |
| 21:24.33 | mindjuju | ah |
| 21:24.33 | PoeticIntensity | tranceaddict |
| 21:24.44 | PoeticIntensity | I downloaded their entire catalog... www.tranceaddict.com |
| 21:24.53 | PoeticIntensity | some of it was trash, but holy cow... Some of it never gets old. |
| 21:25.00 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: I've told you before the name of that sone is YubNub |
| 21:25.10 | beandog | ~fail mindjuju |
| 21:25.10 | ibot | mindjuju: FAIL! |
| 21:25.10 | DexterTheDragon | s/sone/song/ |
| 21:25.13 | beandog | ~school mindjuju |
| 21:25.14 | ibot | ACTION slaps mindjuju around, robs'm, then reminds'm to be thankfully for the education. |
| 21:25.30 | mindjuju | i hate it so much, i can't call it by its real name |
| 21:25.40 | mindjuju | poeticintensity - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs |
| 21:25.53 | beandog | I dont think its that bad |
| 21:25.58 | mindjuju | it's like with volderwart |
| 21:26.01 | mindjuju | they don't say his name |
| 21:26.16 | PoeticIntensity | *click* |
| 21:26.19 | mindjuju | worst thing that ever happened to star wars : jub jub |
| 21:26.30 | beandog | they are saying yub nub |
| 21:26.44 | beandog | yah |
| 21:26.46 | beandog | that's not all that bad |
| 21:26.53 | mindjuju | it's awful! |
| 21:27.23 | beandog | so |
| 21:27.29 | beandog | at the end, is Luke the only one that can see the three Jedi |
| 21:27.34 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju just hates star wars and thinks luke should have turned to the dark side |
| 21:27.40 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: yes |
| 21:27.46 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, dude, have you played the Hoth level on SWTFU? |
| 21:27.54 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: yeah |
| 21:27.59 | beandog | That is awesome :D |
| 21:28.07 | beandog | I love when he gets slammed by the speeder |
| 21:28.10 | mindjuju | i do wish that about luke |
| 21:28.10 | DexterTheDragon | I also unfortunately played the second game |
| 21:28.15 | beandog | in mid-air, even! |
| 21:28.25 | beandog | classic. |
| 21:28.37 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, yah? Ive heard #2 is kinda meh la la. |
| 21:28.43 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... sorry mindjuju, I didn't think it was that bad, either. |
| 21:29.05 | PoeticIntensity | almost un-noticeable. Not something I'd want to listen to, but didn't make me cringe. :-( |
| 21:29.12 | PoeticIntensity | (back to trance now) |
| 21:29.18 | mindjuju | even as a boy, i disliked it |
| 21:29.51 | beandog | I'm a real boy! |
| 21:30.05 | beandog | shrek 2/3/whatever++ |
| 21:31.21 | mindjuju | shrek 1 and 2 were good, 3 didn't like so much, 4 haven't seen |
| 21:31.37 | beandog | which one is forever after |
| 21:31.40 | beandog | that one was good |
| 21:32.40 | beandog | Shrek 2 was the best, though |
| 21:32.54 | mindjuju | agred, i liked it better than 1 |
| 21:33.00 | beandog | aye. |
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| 21:34.09 | beandog | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-benchmarks-is-ie9-cheating-at-sunspider.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss |
| 21:34.14 | PoeticIntensity | IRC hates me |
| 21:34.17 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v PoeticIntensity] by ChanServ |
| 21:34.26 | beandog | ~give PoeticIntensity a cookie |
| 21:34.26 | ibot | ACTION gives PoeticIntensity a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up. |
| 21:34.35 | PoeticIntensity | awww.... |
| 21:34.37 | PoeticIntensity | hug time! |
| 21:34.41 | beandog | that's interesting. |
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| 21:35.38 | beandog | meh that link wasnt as interesting as I thought. |
| 21:37.24 | beandog | http://thefuturebuzz.com/pics/icanhascheezeburger/technician%20cat.jpg |
| 21:38.30 | mgeary | ~give mgeary a cookie |
| 21:38.30 | ibot | ACTION gives mgeary a home-baked oatmeal raisin cookie to cheer him up. |
| 21:38.43 | PoeticIntensity | wassup, mgeary ? |
| 21:38.48 | mgeary | ~literal give $1 a cookie |
| 21:38.48 | ibot | ACTION gives $1 a home-baked oatmeal raisin cookie to cheer him up. |
| 21:38.51 | mgeary | hrm |
| 21:38.55 | mgeary | hey, PoeticIntensity |
| 21:39.03 | PoeticIntensity | still livin' the good life? |
| 21:39.10 | mgeary | doing alright. Not as alright as if i was getting a super Blender, but alright |
| 21:39.12 | mindjuju | ~derp |
| 21:39.12 | ibot | herp |
| 21:39.26 | mindjuju | ~dict derp |
| 21:39.28 | mgeary | 15th anniversary today |
| 21:39.31 | mgeary | congrats to me |
| 21:39.41 | mindjuju | happy anniversary! |
| 21:39.42 | PoeticIntensity | awwwwwesome, mgeary |
| 21:39.43 | PoeticIntensity | ! |
| 21:39.44 | PoeticIntensity | !!!! |
| 21:39.50 | mgeary | more like to my wife, putting up with me for so long |
| 21:40.30 | beandog | mgeary, anniversary of what? |
| 21:40.38 | mgeary | being married |
| 21:40.53 | beandog | mgeary, oh, grats |
| 21:40.58 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: http://i.imgur.com/qJekB.jpg |
| 21:41.16 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, whut the whut |
| 21:41.24 | mgeary | apparently the 15th anniversary is the Crystal Anniversary |
| 21:41.33 | mgeary | anyone wanna guess what i got the wifey? |
| 21:41.40 | beandog | xbox 360 |
| 21:42.06 | DexterTheDragon | Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles? |
| 21:42.08 | beandog | "the dark crystal" on dvd |
| 21:42.11 | mgeary | *crystal*, beandog |
| 21:42.28 | beandog | "honey, have I ever told you that you look like a Gelk?" |
| 21:42.40 | mgeary | http://www.vizio.com/vf550m.html |
| 21:42.49 | mgeary | a liquid *crystal* display TV |
| 21:43.13 | DexterTheDragon | mgeary: did you get that for her or for your appletv? |
| 21:43.27 | mgeary | DexterTheDragon: strong you are, in the ways of the force |
| 21:43.48 | beandog | mgeary, nice man |
| 21:43.54 | beandog | ~upgrade mgeary |
| 21:44.11 | mgeary | spent too much on it, but i think i at least got a good deal |
| 21:44.36 | mindjuju | so if i change my ip tables to say this |
| 21:44.38 | PoeticIntensity | For those who want a good laugh... :) |
| 21:44.39 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nZekvBWYWs |
| 21:44.41 | mindjuju | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport http -j ACCEPT |
| 21:44.51 | mindjuju | that should allow ALL incoming traffic for http, yes? |
| 21:45.04 | mindjuju | poeticintensity dumping on his database? |
| 21:45.05 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, is this at veldas? |
| 21:45.07 | mindjuju | gross |
| 21:45.20 | PoeticIntensity | haha.... (yes, beandog ) |
| 21:46.51 | beandog | mindjuju, iptables are hard ... thats why we use GUIs! |
| 21:47.07 | mgeary | ~quote JFK |
| 21:47.18 | mgeary | uh |
| 21:47.20 | mgeary | no |
| 21:47.54 | mgeary | "We ... do ... things, NOT because they are easy but because they are HARD" |
| 21:48.22 | mindjuju | ah yes |
| 21:48.27 | mindjuju | we choose to go to the moon! |
| 21:48.38 | mgeary | ~cookie mindjuju |
| 21:51.49 | mindjuju | so i'm confused about something @herlo @fungus and other sys admin gurus |
| 21:51.56 | mindjuju | i've modified /etc/rc.local |
| 21:52.04 | mindjuju | put in some new iptable stuff |
| 21:52.07 | herlo | why? |
| 21:52.08 | mindjuju | did the ole |
| 21:52.20 | mindjuju | /sbin/service iptable save |
| 21:52.22 | mindjuju | then restart |
| 21:52.30 | mindjuju | but they don't reflect the changes? |
| 21:52.34 | herlo | yeah, is this a centos box? |
| 21:52.37 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 21:52.39 | fungus | service iptables save have nothing to do with rc.local |
| 21:52.44 | herlo | check /etc/sysconfig/iptables |
| 21:52.49 | mindjuju | oh |
| 21:52.50 | herlo | that's where you put those rules |
| 21:52.55 | mindjuju | k |
| 21:52.59 | mindjuju | srry! |
| 21:52.59 | herlo | and save puts them there |
| 21:53.00 | mindjuju | thx! |
| 21:53.00 | fungus | on rhel/centos don't use rc.local |
| 21:53.11 | fungus | on ubuntu/debian don't use rc.local |
| 21:53.15 | herlo | fungus: very minimally I use rc.local and it does support it |
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| 21:53.32 | fungus | of course it does work, but it's suboptimal |
| 21:53.32 | herlo | usually a one time thing then I delete that data at the end... |
| 21:53.40 | herlo | fungus: agreed |
| 21:53.53 | fungus | use rc.local if you can't figure out a better way. |
| 21:54.04 | influx | arrgh |
| 21:54.13 | influx | must feel not bad about billing clients for time spent. |
| 21:58.44 | herlo | fungus: exactly |
| 22:04.37 | beandog | influx, I could never do consulting b/c of that |
| 22:04.47 | beandog | oh wait, I do do consulting. |
| 22:04.52 | beandog | I charge too much. |
| 22:04.53 | beandog | Oh well. |
| 22:05.18 | beandog | I have a cookie fix to support. |
| 22:20.36 | mindjuju | curse you IP tables! |
| 22:21.02 | SunSparc | beandog: What are your favorite cookies? |
| 22:21.16 | beandog | SunSparc, chocolate chip |
| 22:21.21 | beandog | and snickerdoodles |
| 22:21.29 | beandog | thats about it. |
| 22:21.32 | mindjuju | not pecan sandies, he's weird |
| 22:22.29 | SunSparc | beandog: chocolate chips go in many cookie varieties, does your statement infer that you enjoy any variety with chocolate chips in them? |
| 22:22.49 | beandog | SunSparc, no, just chocolate chips |
| 22:23.02 | beandog | oh yah, pumpkin chocolate chip cookies ... those are the bomb |
| 22:23.03 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 22:24.03 | SunSparc | And German Spekulatius |
| 22:24.13 | beandog | oh yah, butter cookies too |
| 22:24.14 | beandog | those are nommy |
| 22:24.20 | beandog | oh, and iced oatmeal |
| 22:24.26 | beandog | and ginger snaps |
| 22:24.31 | beandog | and gingerbread |
| 22:24.33 | beandog | but thats all. |
| 22:24.34 | SunSparc | Pumpkin chocolate chip are among my favorites. |
| 22:24.53 | _psychic_ | snickerdoodles done well, are pretty killer imho |
| 22:25.02 | SunSparc | There is an oatmeal chocolate chip recipe my wife has that is amazing. |
| 22:25.09 | mgeary | don't forget Chokladflarn |
| 22:25.12 | SunSparc | Mmmm, snickerdoodles. |
| 22:26.28 | SunSparc | mgeary: Hmm, I am not sure I have tried those. They do look tasty though: |
| 22:26.29 | SunSparc | http://www.pilefood.se/bildbank/gille/bilder/3_kakor/hup_47003_chokladflarn.jpg |
| 22:26.47 | mgeary | SunSparc: get 'em at Ikea, they're tasty |
| 22:26.54 | mgeary | and so fun to say |
| 22:27.01 | mgeary | "Chokladflarn!" |
| 22:27.08 | SunSparc | mgeary: now you tell me, my wife just got back from Ikea. |
| 22:28.48 | beandog | that cookie looks like it has zits |
| 22:31.16 | mgeary | why, thank you, beandog |
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| 22:36.55 | mindjuju | anybody got a few minutes can help with iptables? |
| 22:37.13 | beandog | mindjuju, use webmin :D |
| 22:37.57 | mindjuju | that would make it easier, but alas, not an option sadly |
| 22:38.07 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Yeah, I saw that earlier. Awesome! |
| 22:38.15 | _psychic_ | :) |
| 22:40.14 | SunSparc | I like that part of the instructions are not to create a blackhole. |
| 22:44.33 | carmony | wow.... the IRS is crazy |
| 22:45.02 | SunSparc | ? |
| 22:55.19 | beandog | carmony, you cant say something like that and then leave us hanging |
| 22:55.39 | beandog | that's like saying, "Hmm, I guess that *is* flammable" and then we see your IRC connection drop. |
| 22:55.46 | carmony | lol |
| 22:55.49 | SunSparc | LOL |
| 22:57.43 | josephscott | carmony: could be worse, they could be a division of the TSA |
| 22:58.25 | carmony | They barged into my father-in-laws office without notifying them ahead of time, and the interrigated the staff about an ex-employee who had their name put up without permission and attached "CPA" at the end. |
| 22:58.47 | mgeary | josephscott: hear hear |
| 22:59.20 | influx | beandog: Yeah. It's just something about which I need to remind myself often. |
| 23:00.08 | josephscott | see, now if they were under the TSA they would have brought an xray machine and made you use that or require you to submit to groping |
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| 23:01.45 | influx | carmony: Why exactly would that throw the IRS into a tizzy? |
| 23:02.03 | carmony | Claimed they were defrauding the public |
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| 23:11.01 | beandog | I cant really imagine an IRS man seeming intimidating. |
| 23:11.08 | beandog | er |
| 23:11.14 | beandog | I can't imagine one interrogating. |
| 23:12.04 | mindjuju | with all that the airlines have added to travel $50 luguage $20 meal, a free grouping, they charge like $50 for that kind of thing on the street, i say win-win |
| 23:12.20 | beandog | o.O |
| 23:12.34 | beandog | must. supress. bad. joke. |
| 23:16.46 | josephscott | new TSA motto? |
| 23:17.04 | josephscott | "more action than a first date" |
| 23:17.11 | mindjuju | josephscott, have you seen the tshirt? |
| 23:17.21 | josephscott | they have t-shirts? |
| 23:17.31 | mindjuju | http://ridic.tumblr.com/post/1594065053/homeland-security-we-get-to-touch-your-junk |
| 23:17.47 | josephscott | haha |
| 23:18.11 | mgeary | you know, i don't even care about being groped, personally. I just really, really hate the trend. |
| 23:18.21 | mgeary | especially given that it's all in vain |
| 23:18.27 | mindjuju | concur with mgeary |
| 23:18.28 | mgeary | it's all about fighting the last battle |
| 23:18.58 | mgeary | and these people who put "safety" above everything else just drive me crazy |
| 23:19.14 | mgeary | especially when it's not contributing to safety |
| 23:19.17 | mgeary | grrrr |
| 23:19.20 | unum | do any of you read the freerangekids blog? |
| 23:19.20 | josephscott | I've got three kids, oldest is 8, darn right I care about the TSA being able to grope passengers |
| 23:23.25 | beandog | unum, I love that blog |
| 23:23.50 | unum | my introduction to it was through schneier |
| 23:23.53 | unum | he has the best links |
| 23:24.08 | mgeary | ~schneier++ |
| 23:24.22 | SunSparc | freerange kids? |
| 23:25.06 | unum | it's about how parents are so terrified of the unlikely kids aren't allowed to do anything |
| 23:25.17 | beandog | So good. |
| 23:25.24 | unum | this woman let her son take the subway by himself(not even a cell phone) and wrote an article about it |
| 23:25.31 | beandog | SunSparc, basically an attack on helicopter parenting |
| 23:25.39 | unum | I think that's how it got started |
| 23:25.40 | beandog | unum, and I think he was what ... 8 ? |
| 23:25.51 | SunSparc | helicopter parenting? |
| 23:25.52 | beandog | between 8 and 12, I knew ... really young |
| 23:25.53 | unum | not much older than that |
| 23:26.02 | beandog | SunSparc, yah, where they hover over everything their kid is doing. |
| 23:26.12 | SunSparc | lol, oh |
| 23:26.27 | beandog | SunSparc, I didnt make that one up ... Im surprised you havent heard that phrase. |
| 23:26.31 | SunSparc | I am more of an R/C parent. |
| 23:26.47 | beandog | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_parent |
| 23:27.20 | unum | my wife was telling me about part of a "the nanny" episode she saw once, where the parents wouldn't even leave the kid alone for karate practice |
| 23:27.40 | beandog | SunSparc, its interesting reads ... because what happens is these kids go to college on their own and they are SO lost. |
| 23:28.11 | beandog | http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/dumbfounded-file-this-under/ |
| 23:28.12 | beandog | oy |
| 23:28.51 | unum | I had professors talk about having parents call them to chew them out for their kids grades |
| 23:28.54 | unum | I couldn't believe it |
| 23:28.57 | SunSparc | beandog: makes sense. My kids will do fine. Rarely hover and hate to do it. |
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| 23:29.12 | beandog | SunSparc, yah |
| 23:29.21 | beandog | My parents were gone all the time. I got left alone a lot. |
| 23:29.26 | beandog | Are you my mom? |
| 23:29.34 | SunSparc | heh |
| 23:29.37 | beandog | :) |
| 23:29.52 | beandog | I think I scared brasto |
| 23:30.18 | SunSparc | My kids know how to get up and make themselves breakfast and entertain themselves because they know not to bug mom and dad if they are sleeping in. |
| 23:30.49 | unum | my dad was self employed my mom help him run the business from the home, so she was usually there, but I wouldn't say she really hovered |
| 23:30.58 | unum | she would often tell me to do my homework.... |
| 23:31.16 | unum | I'd like my kid to get to that point, but right now she's 2 |
| 23:31.38 | beandog | SunSparc, yes, but can they make YOU breakfast? |
| 23:32.32 | SunSparc | beandog: heh, not yet. Not sure when I will teach them how to make omelets and french toast. |
| 23:33.09 | mgeary | psh. $36 "convenience" fee to pay property taxes online. That's a joke. I'll send a check from my online banking for free, bozos |
| 23:33.10 | unum | mmmmm |
| 23:33.23 | unum | mgeary: that's what I do with questar |
| 23:33.34 | beandog | mgeary, well, they never said who it was convenient for |
| 23:34.56 | SunSparc | beandog: I am liking that freerange site already. |
| 23:35.51 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 23:42.34 | mgeary | unum: yeah, i do it for all my regular bills |
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