| 00:01.46 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.25 | beandog | carmony, migrating? |
| 00:03.32 | beandog | you should nuke the old server and not reuse anything |
| 00:03.38 | carmony | yup |
| 00:03.43 | beandog | especially if you dont know how they got in. |
| 00:03.50 | beandog | did you find out? |
| 00:04.00 | carmony | nope |
| 00:04.47 | beandog | :C |
| 00:04.54 | beandog | Yah |
| 00:05.02 | beandog | Unless you need the server asap, Id let it keep running |
| 00:05.07 | beandog | unless its spewing malware or something |
| 00:06.52 | beandog | imo |
| 00:36.57 | mgeary | coulda saved 40% |
| 00:37.06 | mindjuju1 | which book? |
| 00:38.06 | mgeary | https://www.packtpub.com/python-text-processing-with-nltk-2-0-cookbook/book |
| 00:38.36 | mindjuju1 | ah packtpub, i was going to buy the nginx book from them |
| 00:38.47 | mindjuju1 | do they give you a pdf or some DRM heavy format document? |
| 00:38.51 | mgeary | pdf |
| 00:39.06 | mindjuju1 | good to know, i'm inclined to buy now :) |
| 00:39.15 | mgeary | no drm. they just stamp your name + address into the footer of the pdf |
| 00:39.18 | mgeary | which is just fine by me |
| 00:39.23 | mindjuju1 | yeah true that |
| 00:39.48 | mindjuju1 | was coupon specific to this book or just in general? |
| 00:40.01 | mgeary | in general |
| 00:42.01 | mindjuju1 | ugh! i've got to bolt! i've got an appt with my biology tutor, have test tonight!! |
| 00:42.44 | mindjuju1 | luckily this semester, my wife and I are in the same biology class, but have different professors, so she's ahead a chapter and got a 95 on their version of the test |
| 00:43.32 | mgeary | sounds like you've got a good tutor at home |
| 00:52.53 | beandog | Sweet .. I think I got it. :) |
| 00:58.56 | beandog | http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/functions-xml.html#XSLT-XML-HTML |
| 00:58.59 | beandog | *that* would be awesome. |
| 01:08.08 | carmony | I've got the worst luck today |
| 01:10.42 | beandog | carmony, sorry man |
| 01:11.01 | beandog | carmony, you gonna be at work all night? |
| 01:13.01 | carmony | probably |
| 01:18.18 | wps | beandog: what's up? |
| 01:18.29 | beandog | wps, have you done anything w/xslt |
| 01:18.38 | wps | I haven't, sorry |
| 01:18.41 | beandog | kk |
| 01:18.46 | beandog | wps, quick question |
| 01:18.54 | beandog | wps, if you fetch data with ajax, how do you display it? |
| 01:19.19 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, Im still really liking your idea of just snagging a view. |
| 01:20.24 | wps | I write it into the DOM |
| 01:20.50 | wps | sometimes with, sometimes without replacing (or adding) HTML along the way |
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| 01:22.35 | wps | I've never used any sort of system with ajax (that has a template or anything) |
| 01:23.29 | beandog | wps, where do you do the formatting |
| 01:23.43 | beandog | the actual HTML |
| 01:24.04 | wps | just in my script |
| 01:24.08 | beandog | hmm |
| 01:24.10 | beandog | ok |
| 01:24.19 | beandog | thats what Im trying to avoid. Looking at my options. |
| 01:24.26 | wps | I've never done anything where I'm writing in/replacing a lot of HTML though |
| 01:24.50 | wps | most of the ajax stuff I have done has simply been replacing values |
| 01:25.02 | wps | or hitting a database to do validation or something |
| 01:25.20 | wps | I hear you thoughâ¦Â if I was doing something more than that, I'd be on the quest you're on |
| 01:25.31 | wps | it'd be my preference to have the display logic separated out |
| 01:25.31 | beandog | wps :) |
| 01:25.42 | beandog | wps, yah, thats what Im looking for. |
| 01:25.52 | beandog | thx mon |
| 01:25.59 | wps | waitâ¦Â I did have one project where it pulled a ton of HTML in |
| 01:26.09 | beandog | oh yah? |
| 01:26.19 | wps | I had a template that was a static HTML file |
| 01:27.02 | wps | I read that in with an AJAX call, inserted strings into varies places, and then inserted that into the DOM |
| 01:27.17 | beandog | wps, wow, now that's an interesting idea. |
| 01:27.28 | beandog | that's pretty spiffy |
| 01:27.43 | wps | I didn't use any special systemâ¦Â just the standard jQuery .get() I believe |
| 01:27.47 | wps | let me look |
| 01:28.41 | beandog | k |
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| 01:32.29 | wps | still lookingâ¦Â wasn't in the project I thought it wasâ¦Â trying another |
| 01:32.40 | wps | it's was two years ago |
| 01:33.37 | wps | found it |
| 01:34.03 | wps | yeah, I just used jQuery's .get() to load an .html template that had the markup in it |
| 01:34.47 | wps | read it in and then used .prepend() to shove it into the page |
| 01:35.05 | wps | sorryâ¦Â I have to runâ¦Â time for stories with my kidsâ¦Â but hopefully that helps |
| 01:35.22 | beandog | wps, okay |
| 01:35.23 | beandog | thanks man |
| 01:35.25 | beandog | have a good one |
| 01:35.26 | beandog | :) |
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| 06:54.14 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 06:54.15 | ibot | moos at brasto |
| 06:55.12 | brasto | hmmm, why did I know that a ping in #uphpu at this time of night was probably an rlart??? |
| 06:55.12 | brasto | lol |
| 06:55.47 | brasto | ~wizardfire josephscott |
| 06:55.47 | ibot | ACTION lowers his wizard staff and sends a bolt of wizard fire at an unsuspecting josephscott |
| 06:55.55 | josephscott | hehe |
| 07:00.13 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 07:00.13 | ibot | beats brasto over the head with a microkernel |
| 07:00.21 | mgeary | it's not your night, brasto |
| 07:00.47 | brasto | lol, yea, I didn't expect two in a row, when I got that ping. |
| 07:01.05 | brasto | workin' late mgeary? |
| 07:01.20 | mgeary | yep. fighting with xpath |
| 07:02.04 | brasto | lol, sounds fun. I'm studying my MFT textbook. (Marriage and Family Therapy). I've finally returned to my life ambition and I'm headed to a masters in MFT. |
| 07:03.13 | brasto | ~rlart |
| 07:03.13 | ibot | wallops cachedout with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 07:03.27 | mgeary | nice |
| 07:03.40 | josephscott | carmony: how goes the server move? |
| 07:06.01 | carmony | meh, its a typical migration :P |
| 07:19.26 | carmony | its the DNS thats a pain |
| 07:19.54 | mgeary | got long TTLs? |
| 07:24.13 | carmony | 300 I think |
| 07:24.24 | josephscott | days? |
| 07:24.24 | carmony | omg, grrrrrarg |
| 07:24.37 | carmony | 300 seconds? I think |
| 07:24.49 | carmony | or 300 minutes? I dunno :P |
| 07:25.00 | josephscott | makes a difference ;-) |
| 07:25.17 | carmony | I can't get them to add my mx records on rackspace |
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| 14:55.52 | herlo | carmony: really? that's lame |
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| 15:30.58 | SunSparc | ~FRIDAY |
| 15:30.58 | ibot | ! ! ! F R I D A Y ! ! ! |
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| 15:53.23 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 15:53.24 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after g0bboo's head |
| 15:54.23 | SunSparc | ~rlarat |
| 15:54.28 | SunSparc | heh |
| 15:54.30 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 15:54.30 | ibot | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats mgeary until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
| 15:54.35 | mgeary | hey now |
| 15:54.51 | SunSparc | :) |
| 15:54.54 | SunSparc | Happy Friday |
| 15:55.03 | mgeary | i can't believe it's already Friday |
| 15:55.18 | SunSparc | I can't believe it is already 2010 |
| 15:56.00 | mgeary | i can't believe i'm almost 40 |
| 15:56.10 | mgeary | ~old |
| 15:56.10 | ibot | jamund's mom is old |
| 15:57.10 | SunSparc | I get younger every day. :) |
| 15:57.16 | SunSparc | ~young |
| 15:57.16 | ibot | illegal |
| 15:57.20 | SunSparc | lol |
| 15:57.42 | mgeary | hah |
| 15:57.47 | mgeary | ibot's got your number, SunSparc |
| 15:57.54 | SunSparc | Apparently. |
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| 16:00.44 | beandog | o hai |
| 16:00.51 | beandog | ah crap I forgot to get donuts. |
| 16:01.28 | SunSparc | beandog: you better go get them! |
| 16:08.01 | mgeary | mmm. Orange Rolls |
| 16:08.46 | mgeary | mindjuju1: you get that book? |
| 16:10.55 | carmony | good news, I don't have ot pay $3k in overage fees |
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| 16:11.27 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:12.47 | Utah_Dave | nice! |
| 16:22.38 | jsmith | carmony: Nice... what happened w/ you box? Exploit? |
| 16:22.48 | carmony | exploit they think |
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| 16:24.43 | Utah_Dave | herlo: are you guys using 389 server on utos.org? |
| 16:26.02 | Utah_Dave | ~exploit carmony |
| 16:28.21 | mindjuju1 | mgeary, you aorund? |
| 16:29.56 | mindjuju1 | lets see, who else runs around with a mac |
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| 16:30.06 | mindjuju1 | macnewbold, you've got a mac don't you? |
| 16:30.51 | mindjuju1 | le sigh, was trying not to bug fungus since i'm always bugging him, but... |
| 16:31.49 | fungus | lol. go right ahead. |
| 16:32.07 | mindjuju1 | when you have to open MS documents on your mac, what do you use? |
| 16:32.20 | mgeary | mindjuju1: ping |
| 16:32.28 | mgeary | i use MS Office |
| 16:32.31 | mgeary | works great |
| 16:32.59 | fungus | I use MS Office at work, and OpenOffice at home. |
| 16:33.00 | josephscott | mindjuju1: I think quick view supports previews of office docs |
| 16:33.04 | mgeary | the Student Edition of MS Office is a good deal, imo |
| 16:33.08 | josephscott | not 100% sure |
| 16:33.17 | fungus | OO is usually just fine. |
| 16:33.36 | mindjuju1 | i think will install that on a company mac that needs to be able to open docs |
| 16:33.46 | mindjuju1 | OO that is |
| 16:33.58 | josephscott | if it is a company mac, just buy MS Office for the mac |
| 16:36.30 | mindjuju1 | 149 isn't bad |
| 16:38.20 | beandog | mindjuju1, you a student? |
| 16:38.26 | beandog | you can get great discounts |
| 16:38.38 | mindjuju1 | i'm a lucky student, yup |
| 16:38.50 | beandog | er, but thast probably if youre using it for school .. I imagine. |
| 16:39.04 | mindjuju1 | yesterday i had a biology tutor help me prep for my test last night |
| 16:39.15 | mindjuju1 | i feel good about the test, think i did well |
| 16:39.35 | mindjuju1 | plus, she's was cute! |
| 16:39.52 | mindjuju1 | (mrs. mindjuju was mindjuju tutor) |
| 16:40.01 | mgeary | beandog: no, there are no such restrictions |
| 16:40.26 | fungus | mindjuju1, if it's a company laptop, make the company buy MS Office. |
| 16:42.38 | beandog | and donuts |
| 16:42.46 | fungus | if it's personal, just do OO |
| 16:42.53 | josephscott | donuts sound really good right now |
| 16:43.06 | mindjuju1 | @fungus, it's one of those situations where the owners are out on vacation since our busy season, and the mac isn't directly within the company, its a subsidiary |
| 16:43.17 | mindjuju1 | so money / assets, there is a tax line |
| 16:43.31 | beandog | mindjuju1, well, see, if they're on vacation, that means theres plenty of $$$ to go around |
| 16:43.40 | mindjuju1 | raises for everybody! |
| 16:43.48 | beandog | alternatively, sell their computers in their offices for cash while they're gone |
| 16:44.21 | beandog | "What? I thought you took your printer and chair with you. That's odd." |
| 16:44.28 | mindjuju1 | they just set it up a couple months ago, and /me hasn't gotten all the info on how $$ carries over, etc |
| 16:44.35 | fungus | mindjuju1, so you can't get approval until they get back? In that case use OO temporarily, until you can secure approval or a PO |
| 16:45.08 | mindjuju1 | great minds think alike... just sent my padawan to do just that |
| 16:45.19 | fungus | mindjuju1, when they get back you need to sit down with them and learn the purchasing process. It's an important part of life in sysadmin |
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| 16:47.56 | beandog | dangit .. firebug |
| 16:47.59 | beandog | *grawr* |
| 16:48.09 | beandog | it's activation list is all whacked |
| 16:48.17 | fungus | Corporate purchasing is always a strange and usually painful process. Learn it well, and find the right people to schmooze to get your stuff handled the fastest and easiest. |
| 16:53.05 | macnewbold | mindjuju: yeah, i've got a mac now |
| 16:53.17 | macnewbold | i use openoffice |
| 16:55.52 | macnewbold | we used to use neoOffice on the macs, but the new mac-friendly openoffice version is nice |
| 17:07.56 | Utah_Dave | fungus: I know. Trying to make a purchase through government is such a pain. |
| 17:08.35 | fungus | but gov't purchasing makes corporate look like a walk in the park. |
| 17:08.41 | Utah_Dave | Sometimes a purchase request can take months and months to push through, then sometimes I've got a Fedex box on my desk the next day |
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| 17:38.23 | beandog | So, who wants to take me out to lunch today? |
| 17:38.25 | beandog | Limited time offer! |
| 17:38.29 | beandog | Act now! |
| 17:38.55 | romanovic | beandog: you're not full of donuts? |
| 17:39.05 | beandog | romanovic, I forgot to go get some on the way in |
| 17:39.07 | beandog | its a bit late, now. |
| 17:39.07 | romanovic | I managed to push donuts out of my mind this morning |
| 17:39.23 | romanovic | then as soon as i read my irc chat history you've brought them up again |
| 17:39.45 | beandog | well, at least I'm consistent. |
| 17:39.56 | beandog | That deserves a donut. |
| 17:40.20 | romanovic | can donut be used as a verb? |
| 17:40.23 | romanovic | ~donut beandog |
| 17:49.48 | mindjuju | beandog, where are you at right now? |
| 17:49.59 | beandog | mindjuju, Taylorsville |
| 17:50.00 | mindjuju | slc or uc? |
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| 17:50.39 | beandog | salt lake county |
| 17:50.52 | beandog | Utah really could use less boring county names |
| 17:50.56 | beandog | mindjuju, I'm a block from WJ |
| 17:51.45 | mindjuju | 34.3 miles away |
| 17:51.47 | mindjuju | :( |
| 17:53.54 | beandog | http://www.selectbrands.com/store/CC-2828VC.html |
| 17:54.38 | mindjuju | MS sour grapes - http://topnews.us/content/228725-microsoft-not-amused-open-source-community-s-efforts-build-kinect-drivers |
| 17:55.22 | romanovic | "quit repurposing our hardware!" |
| 17:55.27 | beandog | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/ezbake.shtml |
| 17:55.33 | SunSparc | Whiners |
| 17:55.34 | beandog | want |
| 17:55.54 | mindjuju | @sunsparc and romanovic - yup, too funny |
| 17:56.58 | SunSparc | Maybe they are just sore that they did not think of it first. They could learn a lot from the OS community. |
| 18:00.43 | beandog | huh |
| 18:00.51 | beandog | jquery's latest release is less than a month old. Nice. |
| 18:00.56 | beandog | Er, less than a month between new versions. |
| 18:03.16 | beandog | http://blog.jquery.com/2010/11/11/jquery-1-4-4-release-notes/ |
| 18:03.19 | beandog | came out yesterday |
| 18:19.55 | mindjuju | oh thats hawt |
| 18:20.05 | mindjuju | every day, i find another reason to love my bank |
| 18:20.16 | mindjuju | ING DIrect FTW! |
| 18:20.25 | mindjuju | they have mobile app for andoid |
| 18:21.17 | mindjuju | the only fail point, they don't have a quick scanner thingy for me to just scan to find and install |
| 18:21.45 | fungus | mindjuju, Appbrain ftw |
| 18:21.57 | fungus | http://www.appbrain.com/ |
| 18:22.34 | mindjuju | no way |
| 18:22.53 | fungus | way |
| 18:23.19 | herlo | mindjuju: are you finally getting to adding more apps to your phone?? |
| 18:23.40 | mindjuju | yup |
| 18:23.49 | mindjuju | necessity mother of effort |
| 18:24.16 | mindjuju | i couldn't remmeber what a histone was on way to bio test, so i installed dictionary.com app and checked def |
| 18:24.19 | mindjuju | FTW! |
| 18:24.56 | herlo | mindjuju: use google define: histone |
| 18:24.59 | herlo | that is all |
| 18:25.12 | herlo | but a dict app is ncie |
| 18:25.13 | herlo | ncie |
| 18:25.15 | herlo | nice even |
| 18:25.17 | herlo | man! |
| 18:25.20 | mindjuju | yeah, but then i got to start up the browser and then ask google |
| 18:25.21 | herlo | I can't type today |
| 18:25.26 | herlo | mindjuju: no |
| 18:25.36 | mindjuju | this way, it was all h-i-s-t-o-n-e and pow |
| 18:25.37 | herlo | click search, then type define: histone, it opens google for you |
| 18:25.50 | mindjuju | what you talking abou9t willis? |
| 18:25.54 | herlo | try it |
| 18:29.18 | mindjuju | man, i still got to organize my home screen, my insta-google search is like on screen one, where i mainly live my life on screen 7 |
| 18:30.38 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: your instant google search is a button on the phone |
| 18:30.49 | mindjuju | no way |
| 18:31.13 | mindjuju | i keep meaning to read the manual on the phone, just haven't seem to find the time |
| 18:32.29 | beandog | ing++ |
| 18:32.35 | beandog | most awesome bank evar. |
| 18:33.45 | mindjuju | isn't it? oopsie! short of funds? no mister mean banker at ING to charge you crippling fees! It's just Pow! insta-loan at 4% until you pay it off |
| 18:33.50 | mindjuju | no fee for insta-loan |
| 18:33.59 | mindjuju | and the other guy doesn't know anything |
| 18:34.23 | mindjuju | course, if you're over your insta-loan amount, then they'll refuse, but that, to my mind is reasonable |
| 18:37.16 | beandog | aye |
| 18:37.24 | beandog | super nice. |
| 18:39.58 | orsonj | yeah, when the big bad gov made my bank disable that "feature" they were calling begging me to turn it back on. |
| 18:40.36 | orsonj | I was close to ditching them when that happened, but I'm sticking around for a little while longer now. |
| 18:41.11 | herlo | mindjuju: just hit the magnifying glass button, insta-google-search |
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| 20:34.17 | carmony | josephscott: whats SNA? |
| 20:34.18 | carmony | er |
| 20:34.19 | carmony | SNI |
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| 20:34.46 | josephscott | carmony: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication - allows you to do TLS with name based virtual hosts |
| 20:34.50 | josephscott | instead of requiring an IP |
| 20:35.23 | josephscott | unfortunately it has limited browser/server support, but it is much better than the last time I looked, so I started using it on my EC2 instance, which is limited to a single IP |
| 20:36.16 | josephscott | you want better security on the web? get more products to support SNI |
| 20:36.25 | josephscott | will make it easier for nearly every site to support TLS |
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| 20:36.51 | josephscott | for private or internal use, no reason not to use it, because you can require your staff to use a reasonable browser |
| 20:44.00 | tierra | heh, I've completely forgotten about SNI... I looked into it a couple years ago, but obviously back then there was no possible chance of making use of it |
| 20:44.12 | tierra | it's not looking too bad now tohugh |
| 20:44.14 | tierra | *though |
| 20:44.29 | josephscott | yeah, I hadn't looked at it in a few years and things where bad back then |
| 20:44.43 | josephscott | now, it is at least possible for pretty much everyone to support it |
| 20:45.47 | josephscott | basically if you are still on WinXP you must use Firefox |
| 20:46.04 | tierra | wait... IIS *still* doesn't support it though? wow... |
| 20:46.22 | josephscott | put nginx in front of every IIS server, there, fixes that ;-) |
| 20:46.36 | tierra | heh |
| 20:47.39 | tierra | really just another year or two, and I think it could acceptably be widely used... just need everyone off of XP |
| 20:48.41 | josephscott | yep, XP requires the use of FF or Opera |
| 20:49.02 | josephscott | everything else apparently uses the XP TLS libs, which from the look of things completely stinks |
| 20:49.17 | josephscott | or you know, Microsoft could update XP |
| 20:49.44 | tierra | haha, yeah |
| 20:49.53 | cro | or you could link IE against the OpenSSL libsâ¦oh wait, I forgot, IE is not open source. |
| 20:50.00 | josephscott | at FF is a reasonable option for WinXP users |
| 20:50.08 | josephscott | at least |
| 20:51.04 | josephscott | which is good, because there A LOT of WinXP users on the web http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-200910-201010 |
| 20:51.17 | josephscott | 53% |
| 20:56.55 | tierra | wow, I thought it was a lot lower than that by now... Net Applications reports 58% XP |
| 20:57.17 | tierra | so maybe not two years... maybe three to four |
| 20:57.19 | tierra | ugh |
| 20:58.57 | tierra | we're already going to be forced over to IPv6 anyway by then, so it really won't matter as much at that point |
| 21:16.59 | SunSparc | Anyone ready for Thanksgiving dinner?! |
| 21:17.00 | SunSparc | http://www.chow.com/recipes/29029-thanksgiving-turkey-cake?tag=text_block%3Bgallery_recipe_btn |
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| 21:27.26 | wps | bum⦠bumâ¦Â bumble beeâ¦Â bumble bee tuna |
| 21:29.50 | josephscott | I guess they really wanted to make sure I didn't miss it http://josephscott.org/archives/2010/11/an-important-message-from-comcast/ |
| 21:39.04 | SunSparc | josephscott: whoa! 10 letters? All to the same address? |
| 21:39.18 | josephscott | yep, all stuffed into my mail box out front |
| 21:39.43 | SunSparc | Man, I could save them a ton of money. |
| 21:40.19 | josephscott | if only there was some electronic form of communication were text could be sent to individuals if you knew their (e) address |
| 21:40.51 | SunSparc | That is just crazy talk. |
| 21:41.01 | SunSparc | ~witch josephscott |
| 21:41.02 | tierra | haha, that's awesome |
| 21:41.18 | SunSparc | Burn the heretic! |
| 21:41.37 | josephscott | what if I weigh less than a duck? |
| 21:41.41 | SunSparc | Too bad they don't know about IRC, eh? They would if they watched CSI. |
| 21:41.56 | SunSparc | josephscott: Do you float? |
| 21:42.09 | josephscott | haha, if a service asks for my irc nick, channel and server I'll know something is up |
| 21:42.33 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:42.40 | josephscott | SunSparc: sometimes :-) |
| 21:42.51 | SunSparc | Then you're a witch! |
| 21:43.19 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 21:43.19 | ibot | takes fungus to the vet for a "special" visit |
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| 22:28.06 | josephscott | mindjuju: did you ever find out what was going on with those to.php things? |
| 22:28.23 | mindjuju | it's a virus |
| 22:28.31 | mindjuju | pointing you to a drug company website |
| 22:28.34 | mindjuju | which gets ya |
| 22:28.38 | mindjuju | two variants |
| 22:28.40 | mindjuju | to.html |
| 22:28.50 | mindjuju | and this other i saw starting thursday |
| 22:28.52 | mindjuju | to.php |
| 22:28.57 | mindjuju | no clicky |
| 22:29.00 | josephscott | so if I just got an email from a relative with one, where did they get infected? |
| 22:29.03 | josephscott | on their PC? |
| 22:29.13 | mindjuju | i don't know, here's the deal |
| 22:29.25 | mindjuju | if you look at the header, and 1 employee that we have here who was sending out |
| 22:29.30 | mindjuju | he DOESN'T use outlook |
| 22:29.43 | mindjuju | so the hotmail acct in his case was compromised |
| 22:29.48 | mindjuju | BUT the question is how? |
| 22:29.55 | mindjuju | did they guess passwored? |
| 22:29.59 | mindjuju | is comp compromised? |
| 22:30.01 | josephscott | this came a yahoo.com account |
| 22:30.09 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 22:30.14 | josephscott | X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 |
| 22:30.17 | mindjuju | those are the 2 domains that seem to have it happen to |
| 22:30.25 | mindjuju | msn/hotmail & yahoo |
| 22:30.28 | josephscott | so it was done via their webmail, but still could have been triggered from a PC |
| 22:30.58 | mindjuju | well, fungus noted that the header indicated the IP addy that the web interface was accessed from was in Mexico on one of the ones i got |
| 22:31.11 | mindjuju | i'm just saying how did they get password is unknown |
| 22:31.19 | josephscott | yep, this one appears to have come from mexico as well |
| 22:31.27 | josephscott | http://whois.domaintools.com/189.189.238.51 |
| 22:31.55 | mindjuju | in the DF no less |
| 22:35.41 | SunSparc | 25: goto 24 |
| 22:36.14 | mindjuju | anybody know about printer sharing on a Mac, where the Mac has a printer connected via USB and shares it to a networked IBM PC? |
| 22:37.15 | mindjuju | hmm, this makes it look like it shoudl be easy |
| 22:43.38 | mgeary | wohoo. my bellows has shipped |
| 22:46.38 | mindjuju | DtD, you around? |
| 22:53.42 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: maybe |
| 22:57.20 | mindjuju | @DTD, did you see this? |
| 22:57.21 | mindjuju | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20022460-245.html |
| 22:57.35 | mindjuju | somebody hacked WSU video feed? |
| 22:57.39 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 22:57.51 | mindjuju | funny |
| 23:03.20 | mindjuju | i guess the school computers were all windows computers |
| 23:53.24 | mindjuju | i'm trying to remember the name of the application you run after installing mysql that helps you to secure it in production environment |
| 23:53.28 | mindjuju | anybody know off hand? |
| 23:53.57 | mindjuju | ive checked mysql documentation, but its not showing up there |
| 23:54.38 | mindjuju | oh wait, i just found it after searching for like 15 minutes |
| 23:54.40 | mindjuju | mysql_secure_installation |