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| 01:07.43 | influx_ | "Onward for Gruumsh One-Eye." |
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| 12:53.21 | denelius | hello i have a form into which text content is submitted, however if the user click on return/enter when entering text it generates a line break in the submitted text. how do i account for this and remove this break? |
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| 16:13.34 | mgeary | nice WOTD today |
| 16:13.37 | mgeary | "ullage" |
| 16:16.33 | romanovic | whose wotd? |
| 16:16.37 | romanovic | ibot? |
| 16:16.40 | romanovic | ~wotd |
| 16:16.54 | mgeary | ibot wotd is word of the day |
| 16:16.54 | ibot | mgeary: okay |
| 16:17.44 | romanovic | ah dictionary.com |
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| 16:30.17 | mindjuju | anybody looking for a PHP contract |
| 16:30.21 | mindjuju | 6months? |
| 16:30.37 | thebigdog | depends on how much they pay |
| 16:30.38 | mindjuju | oh, sorry, you need to know PHP & Python |
| 16:30.48 | mindjuju | not for you thebigdog |
| 16:30.53 | thebigdog | haha |
| 16:30.54 | thebigdog | k |
| 16:30.56 | mindjuju | you're much too skilled |
| 16:31.13 | mindjuju | you and that BMW |
| 16:31.34 | mindjuju | i doubt this would pay close to the insurance payment |
| 16:32.58 | mindjuju | personally, I've always seen recruiters / headhunters in the same family as leaches, but... who am I to judge? |
| 16:35.53 | thebigdog | well then |
| 16:36.33 | mgeary | so they want PHP and Python, but they don't want to pay anything |
| 16:36.39 | mgeary | sounds like a winner |
| 16:36.49 | mindjuju | exactly, and they don't want any commitments either |
| 16:36.56 | mindjuju | you're a coding booty call |
| 16:37.05 | mgeary | on-site? |
| 16:37.10 | mindjuju | prolly |
| 16:37.17 | mgeary | yeah, a real winner |
| 16:37.17 | mindjuju | i can give you the headhunter's name if you'd like |
| 16:37.47 | mindjuju | in other news, a computer technician bilked a client for $20 mil |
| 16:37.49 | thebigdog | hehe coding booty call...you have to go there for them for sure |
| 16:37.52 | mindjuju | talk about social engineering |
| 16:37.52 | mindjuju | http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/35116/Repair-techs-defraud-man-of-20-million |
| 16:37.55 | mgeary | mindjuju: yeah, i saw that |
| 16:42.01 | mindjuju | ugh, 6 comments in a row within 10 minutes on twitter, and you're on my shortlist to get the boot, especially if it is on goofy stuff |
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| 17:20.56 | mindjuju | i hate cybersquatters and i hate companies that side step squatters by creating goofy domain names |
| 17:21.16 | mindjuju | 2 wrongs doesn't make a right, though 2 rights does make a u turn |
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| 17:48.09 | fungus | mindjuju, do you live in Britain? 2 rights are un-american. We turn *left* twice for u-turns |
| 17:49.28 | herlo | fungus: except in New Jersey |
| 17:50.14 | herlo | in New Jersey, you make a right, then two lefts to make a u-turn - Jug Handle intersections... |
| 17:50.17 | herlo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jughandle |
| 17:52.09 | fungus | that's still two lefts. Still American. Just has a bonus right thrown in. |
| 17:52.31 | fungus | mindjuju, on the other hand, must be a socialist. |
| 17:55.25 | herlo | depends if you think America is a socialist nation or not I guess |
| 18:00.58 | josephscott | ~smurf the debate |
| 18:00.58 | ibot | ACTION DoSes the debate |
| 18:17.50 | mindjuju | never was much of a smurf fan |
| 18:19.39 | josephscott | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpPqQYJuOwE |
| 18:19.40 | josephscott | sad |
| 18:22.52 | mindjuju | so josephscott, it's not only that its smurfs, but that its in 3d |
| 18:23.08 | josephscott | of all the movies to make |
| 18:23.32 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TX2jEdwX2c |
| 18:23.42 | mindjuju | i HATED yoji bear |
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| 18:27.24 | mindjuju | i like jack black - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6NEeem05-s |
| 18:31.55 | herlo | yogi bear? |
| 18:32.18 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 18:32.26 | mindjuju | yogi bear = le sux |
| 18:33.17 | herlo | heh |
| 18:33.34 | SunSparc | Hey BooBoo!!! |
| 18:34.02 | jsmith | Let's go find us a pic-a-nic basket! |
| 18:34.09 | SunSparc | Yes :) |
| 18:34.13 | herlo | lol |
| 18:34.20 | jsmith | Mmmmn.... food.... |
| 18:34.44 | DexterTheDragon | ~shun mindjuju |
| 18:34.44 | ibot | You are dead to me, mindjuju. |
| 18:35.52 | herlo | okay, I'm taking my son to see that movie, thanks mindjuju |
| 18:36.45 | mindjuju | well, i like dan akaroids, so he may redeem it |
| 18:37.01 | mindjuju | but i HATE pic-a-nic baskets and i HATE booboo |
| 18:37.27 | herlo | aykroyd <-- :) |
| 18:39.37 | DexterTheDragon | I don't understand the obsession to turn good cartoons into crap live action movies |
| 18:40.33 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: lol, I bet a lot of that is cgi anyway |
| 18:40.33 | mindjuju | or bad cartoons into crap live action movies, like yogi bear |
| 18:42.12 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart mindjuju for speaking bad about yogi bear |
| 18:42.12 | ibot | hits mindjuju with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha for speaking bad about yogi bear |
| 18:43.31 | josephscott | ~smurf yogi bear |
| 18:43.31 | ibot | ACTION DoSes yogi bear |
| 19:03.45 | mindjuju | has anybody seen that emial that's got no subject and a URL that's like http://example.com/to.html |
| 19:04.13 | mindjuju | i've seen like a hundred variants of example.com, always to to.html. |
| 19:04.28 | mindjuju | to.html refreshs the browser and points it to a diet website, but that site is down already |
| 19:04.58 | mindjuju | i ssuspect that i have an internal user who was compromised, but trying to find out more about what it was / vector |
| 19:08.37 | fungus | mindjuju, trace the headers on the email to verify that the source is external. |
| 19:09.13 | macnewbold | mindjuju: there's a spam going around lately - looks like something that compromises email accounts and sends to their contactlist. |
| 19:09.21 | macnewbold | i've had several of them come through in the last day or so |
| 19:09.42 | macnewbold | I usually see them as http://somekeywords.com.au/to.html |
| 19:09.53 | macnewbold | then they always take you to some stupid link farm site |
| 19:10.05 | macnewbold | i get them from people i know, from hotmail/yahoo accounts and such |
| 19:10.21 | macnewbold | and some from people i don't know, but those may be going to generic addrresses |
| 19:10.57 | herlo | downloading RHEL6 right now, just released |
| 19:13.10 | mindjuju | so macnewbold, do we know if comp is compromised or hacked hotmail account? |
| 19:13.31 | mindjuju | i know in past, it was easy for them to hack comp, and then send out to outlook mailing list, but this seems different |
| 19:41.47 | SunSparc | mindjuju: often the links they show are not the actual links but just the text that the actual anchor is surrounding. |
| 19:41.59 | fungus | mindjuju, if you trace the headers of the spam, you can find the sender. |
| 19:43.04 | mindjuju | @fungus, the sender is the person compromised, but it's hard to tell if it is a computer or if the account was compromised, or some other vector |
| 19:43.19 | mindjuju | here is what i mean |
| 19:44.06 | mindjuju | Received: from SNT118-W6 ([65.55.90.135]) by snt0-omc3-s34.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:51:00 -0800 |
| 19:44.13 | mindjuju | that's the sending SMTP line from the email |
| 19:44.19 | mindjuju | it's coming form MSN |
| 19:44.25 | mindjuju | but the guy isn't running outlook |
| 19:44.35 | mindjuju | he says he only interfaces with MSN via web portal |
| 19:44.43 | mindjuju | check / send emailsthat way |
| 19:45.01 | fungus | mindjuju, it's easy to tell |
| 19:45.13 | mindjuju | ? |
| 19:45.17 | fungus | The first recieved header, unless forged, tells who originated it |
| 19:45.22 | mindjuju | right |
| 19:45.25 | mindjuju | that's what i posted |
| 19:46.25 | mindjuju | so what i'm saying though is that i don't know if MSN password hacked, computer hacked, some kind of browser hijack, session hijack |
| 19:46.37 | fungus | So you never said who you are working with. |
| 19:46.43 | fungus | sender? recipient? |
| 19:46.50 | mindjuju | oh, sender |
| 19:46.55 | mindjuju | i was the receipient |
| 19:47.20 | fungus | pastebin all the headers |
| 19:47.51 | SunSparc | ~lart mindjuju for spamming the channel |
| 19:47.51 | ibot | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on mindjuju for spamming the channel |
| 19:48.10 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 20:28.24 | fungus | wow, RHEL 6 is a big deal. It's quite exciting. |
| 20:28.33 | SunSparc | Why? |
| 20:28.44 | fungus | because it's such a leap forward. |
| 20:28.47 | jsmith | Because it rocks! |
| 20:29.20 | SunSparc | heh, can you give me some examples? |
| 20:29.22 | fungus | Being used to frequent incremental updates it's easy to become apathetic about releases |
| 20:29.45 | fungus | Ubuntu releases are just boring, and normal. |
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| 20:30.18 | josephscott | I generally like my servers to be boring and normal |
| 20:30.19 | fungus | I'm not saying I want to switch, but the excitement is fun |
| 20:30.36 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:30.49 | fungus | I'd rather have incremental updates too |
| 20:31.17 | fungus | Being uber awesome for a year, followed by 3-4 years of old and lame, isn't fun. |
| 20:58.39 | mgeary | and what version of python does it ship with? |
| 20:58.43 | carmony | whats new with rhel6? |
| 21:08.40 | fungus | enough to make rhel5 look decrepit and ancient. |
| 21:09.03 | carmony | lol, I already felt rhel5 felt deprepit and ancient |
| 21:09.20 | mgeary | no kidding |
| 21:09.32 | fungus | which is exactly why rhel6 is so awesome right now. |
| 21:11.08 | josephscott | anyone want to take a guess at what city pays their mayor the most (in Utah)? |
| 21:11.28 | jsmith | St. George? |
| 21:11.40 | josephscott | ha, not even close |
| 21:11.53 | DexterTheDragon | Tooele? |
| 21:11.55 | jsmith | Levan? |
| 21:12.04 | SunSparc | Panguitch |
| 21:12.15 | jsmith | Paragonah |
| 21:12.17 | DexterTheDragon | Kearns |
| 21:12.19 | jsmith | Koosherem |
| 21:12.49 | josephscott | there are about 10 or 11 cities in Utah that pay their mayors enough to be what I consider a regular salary |
| 21:13.01 | josephscott | if they were skilled in a non-gov job |
| 21:14.04 | josephscott | give you a hint, salt lake city mayor is #2 in the ranking |
| 21:14.09 | mindjuju | @carmony PM |
| 21:14.48 | jsmith | Bountiful? |
| 21:16.04 | josephscott | the top spot goes to Sandy, UT, where apparently we pay our mayor $120k/year |
| 21:16.42 | influx_ | Got to pay for those Real games somehow. |
| 21:17.38 | josephscott | One that really surprised me though, Tooele pays their mayor $85k/year |
| 21:17.46 | josephscott | for a town of what, 35k people? |
| 21:17.47 | jsmith | Nobody expects a Spanish inquisition |
| 21:17.56 | jsmith | Two dollars per resident?!? |
| 21:18.23 | josephscott | almost $2.50 |
| 21:18.29 | josephscott | per person per year |
| 21:18.44 | josephscott | just for the salary, doesn't count anything else |
| 21:19.18 | josephscott | makes me wonder where the highest mayor pay per resident is |
| 21:20.22 | josephscott | Logan is pretty close to $2.50 per person as well |
| 21:21.03 | josephscott | at least Sandy is closer to $1.25 per resident |
| 21:21.58 | josephscott | inflation ! :-) |
| 21:23.10 | mindjuju | oh man, i've finally found what i want for christmas @sunsparc - http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/e58c/ |
| 21:23.41 | SunSparc | mindjuju: YES!!! That is awesome. I am showing that to my wife. |
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| 21:43.51 | mgeary | ~burnt cheese++ |
| 21:49.28 | SunSparc | burnt or browned? |
| 21:50.37 | jsmith | cheddar? pepper jack? |
| 22:02.02 | mgeary | yes |
| 22:02.30 | mgeary | though as far as i'm concerned, pepper jack isn't *really* a cheese |
| 22:03.04 | mgeary | Provolone, Münster, Havarti, Brie, now we're talking |
| 22:03.06 | mindjuju | i like edam |
| 22:03.16 | mgeary | Gouda |
| 22:03.26 | mindjuju | Gouda, way good |
| 22:03.48 | mindjuju | it's funny i had to go all the way to China before experiencing edam or gouda |
| 22:04.07 | mindjuju | or real sturdy european breads |
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| 22:07.05 | mgeary | well... you could also have gone to... Europe |
| 22:07.18 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:11.33 | mindjuju | it's too bad american bread doesn't have any character |
| 22:11.57 | mindjuju | in general, i should say |
| 22:14.39 | fungus | I think it's funny that Subway calls it's crappy, lame, white bread "italian" just to make it sound fancy. |
| 22:14.53 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 22:15.25 | josephscott | everyone likes to sounds fancy |
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| 22:20.53 | mgeary | you didn't? |
| 22:21.00 | mgeary | this is the home of the Love Sac⢠|
| 22:21.32 | mgeary | and anytime something in UC goes big time, twenty other companies spring up to try to replicate them |
| 22:21.53 | mindjuju | so it appears |
| 22:22.23 | mindjuju | lovesac, monstersak, gorillasak (i think it said was here), chubbychair (also think they're here) |
| 22:22.25 | mindjuju | it's amazing |
| 22:22.51 | mgeary | and more than a little pathetic |
| 22:23.06 | mindjuju | which one do you have? |
| 22:23.15 | mgeary | none |
| 22:23.23 | mindjuju | ah |
| 22:24.17 | mgeary | on a completely unrelated note, a funny thing happened to me the other day |
| 22:24.26 | mindjuju | when i was in utah the first time (10 yrs ago), i couldn't run into 5 people without one of them being an "opportunity agent" |
| 22:24.31 | mindjuju | or whatever they call themselves |
| 22:24.46 | orsonj | I think I overheard one during lunch yesterday |
| 22:25.06 | mindjuju | my FAVORITE phrase in the whole world is "the product ACTUALLY sells itself! It's amazing!" |
| 22:25.34 | mindjuju | i'd always wait for the phrase, and sure enough 10/10 encounters with an MLM agent would always drop that |
| 22:25.35 | SunSparc | mindjuju: amen to that |
| 22:25.37 | orsonj | Yeah, I don't pay for work, I work for pay. |
| 22:25.38 | mgeary | we had rented a RedBox DVD, but managed to misplace the disc case. I researched and discovered that you buy a replacement case at the RedBox unit. So i go down and, sure enough, there's an option for the case. I pay my $1 and get the case. Turns out, however, that there was a disc in it. Someone had returned it and forgotten to remove the "this is a replacement case" barcode |
| 22:26.25 | mgeary | so now i have a disc of Leap Year that i don't particularly want, but don't have an extra case with which to return it to RedBox, and i'm not going to pay $1 just so i can return someone else's DVD |
| 22:26.42 | mindjuju | leap year? |
| 22:26.47 | mindjuju | ~imdb leap year |
| 22:27.08 | mgeary | it's meh |
| 22:27.44 | mindjuju | curious |
| 22:28.53 | SunSparc | I saw it. It was a decent love story. Not really one I plan on owning. |
| 22:29.17 | orsonj | mgeary: email them, they have been good (at least with me) about dealing with weird situations. |
| 22:29.56 | mgeary | fair enough. though my tolerance for spending time just to give them something back that i inadvertently received for free is fairly low |
| 22:30.12 | mgeary | now, if they'll give me a few free rental credits... :) |
| 22:30.39 | mindjuju | send an email, tell them what happened and ask them to provide an envolope for you to return it |
| 22:30.54 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:31.07 | mgeary | or i could just send it to Netflix. mess them up |
| 22:31.12 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:31.13 | orsonj | heh |
| 22:31.16 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:33.12 | mindjuju | chubby chairs, come on |
| 22:34.22 | fungus | mindjuju, sad part is, they likely spent weeks debating and deciding on the name. |
| 22:34.32 | mindjuju | no way |
| 22:36.02 | influx_ | w/ 8 |
| 23:08.39 | SunSparc | You all better just pack up your bags and start looking for jobs in the food service industry. This is going to rock your world: http://www.makeyourownsoftware.com/ |
| 23:09.38 | josephscott | Out pops an "exe file" ready for you to sell. |
| 23:09.42 | SunSparc | This software sells itself!! |
| 23:14.37 | SunSparc | ninnypants: I do not think a law should be made that disallows two consenting adults to kill each other in a duel. |
| 23:15.21 | mindjuju | i wonder if I could make my own "clippy" minion for my desktop with that software |
| 23:15.30 | SunSparc | heh |
| 23:15.35 | mindjuju | something like bonzai buddy, but better |
| 23:19.18 | mgeary | in point of fact, Steve Jobs made his fortune in *hardware*, not software |
| 23:20.06 | mgeary | and i love that this guy's dream car is a Subaru |
| 23:21.25 | fungus | SunSparc, if you believe that is acceptable, then suicide should be as well. |
| 23:22.57 | SunSparc | fungus: Hmmm |
| 23:23.00 | fungus | and there are also ramifications in the realm of assisted suiced as well. |
| 23:23.07 | fungus | * suicide |
| 23:24.54 | fungus | personally I think it's a good idea to allow, but there are lots of religious nuts that don't. |
| 23:24.57 | SunSparc | Well, it is a complicated topic and I do not believe people should be killing each other or themselves. However, I do believe they should have the choice. |
| 23:25.28 | SunSparc | I also believe in in trying to talk them out of it. :) |
| 23:25.40 | fungus | I agree. If you are of sound mind to make the decision, why not? |
| 23:25.42 | SunSparc | Offering them help and alternatives. |
| 23:25.50 | SunSparc | Right. |
| 23:25.51 | fungus | exactly. |
| 23:25.57 | SunSparc | Or on your deathbed. |
| 23:26.36 | SunSparc | My mother has already made it clear that if she is ever incapacitated she does not want to be hooked up to machines to keep her alive. She wants to be allowed to pass on. |
| 23:26.40 | fungus | But there are too many weirdos that take the "sanctity of life" to extremes that will always prevent that from being legal. |
| 23:26.43 | SunSparc | I respect that. |
| 23:26.44 | influx_ | SunSparc: Same. |
| 23:27.02 | SunSparc | fungus: yup |
| 23:27.17 | mindjuju | variance of opinion = weirdo ? |
| 23:27.23 | SunSparc | heh |
| 23:27.31 | fungus | mindjuju, yup. :) |
| 23:27.33 | SunSparc | extreme variance. |
| 23:27.36 | mindjuju | heh :) |
| 23:27.56 | SunSparc | all opinion is biased anyway. |
| 23:28.03 | influx | deviation from an agreed-upon or self-defined norm is weird. |
| 23:28.22 | josephscott | ~weird |
| 23:28.23 | ibot | Weird factor is currently 10%, and stable. |
| 23:28.27 | influx | :3 |
| 23:29.08 | SunSparc | heh |
| 23:39.40 | orsonj | reminds me of the joke about someone telling their kids they didn't want to depend on a machine and a feeding tube to stay alive and to just pull the plug if that ever happened. |
| 23:39.56 | orsonj | So, they turned off the tv and took away the coke |
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